YES I've been super interested about this mouse since I've seen it. I remember hearing rocket jump ninja talk about sensor placement saying something along the lines of "your brain moves your mouse relative to your index finger" and immediately thinking of a mouse design where the sensor and mouse button are directly on the tip of your index finger. Super cool to see this concept actually be made and not stay as a stupid sci fi fantasy I would never see in my lifetime.
I watched this video and fell asleep watching it but not because its boring but because your voice and the backround music is so soothing. Now I will rewatch it awake
This video is such a chill vibe and a nice way of learning about unique stuff such as these kinds of mice. I'm also a HUGE fan of showing off Gunfire Reborn content while at it as I absolutely love this game to death! Definitely would love to see more content like these, be it for the vibes, the item being explored, or the Gunfire clips.
I really like these first impression videos. The mouse is quite interesting looking but I really see why its sort of a "pen grip" its like when you take a pencil and put it on an angle to do shading. overall great video!!
PLEASE KEEP POSTING VIDS LIKE THIS THEY ARE MY FAVORITE EVER pingu: it would mean a lot to me if you help me with something. I need to decide which mouse to buy and I’m stuck between either the op18k or the HTR. Sadly money is a constraint for me so from your standpoint which one should I purchase. I LOVE YOUR VIDS ❤❤❤❤
i've been loving these videos, they're so nice to listen to and i'm a huge fan of these mouse reviews too - i got a keychron m4 today and i'm loving it so much, thank u for indirectly introducing me to ftip mice,,,,, u awesome
I swear, we must have the exact same grip style because I also do everything you said in this video. Even using the mouse at a slight angle. That's so crazy.
Hey Pingu, I'm a big fan of this channel. The fact you could aim like this on your first try is really impressive - it took me a day or 2 to get comfortable aiming with the Titan 1. I enjoyed the Titan 1 alot, and agree with the fact your fingers feel less involved with your aim compared to the HSK Pro, personally I like that about the Titan 1.
thank you!! great job with your vid on this mouse too ^^ i agree the amount of range of motion you want out is a stylistic thing though, i'll add that to the pinned comment :>
@@pinguefied Thanks 😊 ref the DPI, if you plug the mouse into the PC, by default it'll go to 800 dpi, if you hold right click and plug it in, it will change the dpi to 1600. I added another comment about the spin out issue
I saw this mouse on reddit some time ago and it's absolutely nuts. I'm really glad this exists and people creating stuff like this exist. Very cool. Sadly this kind of "mouse" is not viable for mouseonly osu (maybe clickx would work well), so I'm personally not interested... But damn the concept is really really unique and interesting!
It seems you are really experienced with fingertip mice! Personally the reduction of weight is worth the less space that is available to rest on, but I digress. Anyway, do you think you will make a fingertip mice tier list in the future? It would be nice, as I barely have any experience with these. Love your vids!
sadly there's not too much reduction of weight compared to the hsk pro or htr, the cable kinda equalizes it. and i'm not really sure i agree with that principle fully anyway haha. though i admit it's a stylistic thing, a lot of ppl use ftip mice as just a light object to hold, rather than having the fingers be actively aiming. tier list maybe, i was planning on doing a roundup when i get the htx and it could be a fun way to end it
@@pinguefied I think (I am not 100% sure) that the scroll wheel knocks the sensor out of place over time, so it isn't linked the use of scroll wheel, but more so linked to the impact of using the scroll wheel over time - so when the sensor is mis aligned, it will spin out randomly
hi hi!! since you're kinda using a lot of fingertip mice i would LOVE to hear your opinions of the Cooler Master MM720. it has a pretty niche audience and the shape is kinda insane... i love your reviews on these interesting finger tipping mice!
i feel like it would be rly bad for me since i like small mice, thin grip width and a lot of lateral ftip mobility, but it's a neat shape for sure c: mayb i'll try someday, ty for the comment!!
omg i never knew :o i do remember that when i found out i was the same age as hvick i had a bit of a crisis though, where i was like "holy shit he's like 2x as good as me and we have the same amount of lived experience, is it becoming too late for me?" if only i knew what was to become of the top 100...
i could see it.. i feel like the realization i had at the end, where pens are able to rotate for lateral movements and that not rly being possible with the way a mouse sensor works, i'm a bit more skeptical. but maybe!!
@@pinguefied I think the other problem with pens is they are prohibitively expensive to get something resembling a mouse latency. This would be for something like 250 polling rate. Due to that, nobody has honestly tested a penshape. Its obviously possible to do 1000+, dont know what the prohibitive factors are in the tablet market. Agree with what youre saying in other comments about click issues. You might have to keyboard shoot, but that would hypothetically be worth it if better aim.
@@FlookCS i have! i think it's easily the best value for money rn for small hands, i'm sure the xm2 will be up there too :o though i cut mine in half for a fingertip mod and have a scroll wheel on it that i boiled for an hour on my stove LMAO so it's a little bit scuffed
7 minutes in and i’d just like to say, i’m so envious of your aim, genuinely i don’t get how you and the guys at voltaic accomplish this robotic level of aim, like even after 400 hours of benchmarks, vdims, watching technique videos i just can’t get past diamond, not even diamond complete
i haven't used it myself but i've heard the darmoshark m5 is a solid option for that hsk plus type of feel. i think it's $50 on maxgaming and they're doing a giveaway on twt rn for it the keychron m4 is also a solid mouse for how cheap it is, and it gives a similar pen-like feeling to the hsk pro. i didn't love the shape but some ppl do aside from that, hsk pro ace is about $130 with no 4k and you could prolly find an original wired hsk somewhere too for pretty cheap :o
Question that's barely even related to the vid: Will you ever make a public release of your TF2 HUD? I get that it's an edit of an already existing HUD, however most people really don't know how to edit HUDs and it would be pretty nice to have as a there is a decent amount of people who want it.
i feel like having the pen have m1 will create a lot of cursor instability with having to apply pressure to press it, but it might be better than tap to shoot. size, binds, and stability were the main issues i ran into when trying to make the playstyle viable haha. i tried to solve size (didn't want to buy a huge tablet) by using accel, binds by using foot pedals, and stability by making the pen only track while you are dragging. but still really hard to match the versatility of mouse for fps.
@@houssamalucad753 yeah that's why i had to bust out the foot pedals 😔 you run out of binds quite quickly with no mouse buttons but maybe the azeron.....
yaya that's rly where my obsession with overthinking mechanics started, i used to write these massive walls of text on reddit about my thoughts on improvement LOL
what is the mouse pad that you suggest when i asked for one my parents bought me a good pad but its a 31.5 x 11.8 inch pad witch feels kinda small at times. yours seems more like a square than a rectangle like mine does if anyone has tips i would be much appreciated
Honestly if you play fps games i would recommend getting a well balanced control pad like the lgg saturn pro or the artisan zero. You can also go with hybrid pads or speed pad in general like the artisan hien or artisan shidenkai and you can also go glasspads but i dont really recommend them because it takes a while to get used to it but if youre up to the challenge to try it its much fun.
I was interested in this thing but saw that the guy making them had stopped. How'd you get yours? Hopefully a real set of "finger" mice are in our near future
@@matt____ hi brim!! r u excited for mh wilds.. sadly mine is just a loaner from a periph enthusiast. do you use ftip mice? i feel like the m4 and hsk pro are pretty good at what they do rn :o
yeah i forgot to do tr_denial, i can try next time. i think it would be fine tho with all my ftip experience, can't imagine it's worse than trying to do wide angle ts
not quite,, there are a lot of compromises you make with pen aim. i think you really need a tablet with adjustable LOD, and also getting a tablet big enough to be usable in all games seems very expensive while having competitive latency :
@@pinguefied yeah ig the price is the main problem for a big enough tablet, but their latency is usually good. Good latency is critical for a graphics tablet and a main selling feature.
www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806320684210.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt has to be with a new account to get them that cheap. i can't comment on durability but ya pretty good so far!
@@MartinMlBanic i don't think it ever will sadly. they are doing a second drop for version 2 somewhat soon, but this kind of thing is so homemade and niche i can't see it having big production runs haha
How the hell do you have the time to improve at all these things. Obviously over time one begins to improve ag improving, but what the fuck. Make a guide or something.
@@pinguefied pff nah I’m the one that got rolled I had like 0.5 kd, I used to play tf long long ago as a kid but it was only 200 hours or so with it being completely casual, i’ve been aimtraining for a while now and want to get into more games with more aiming cuz I only played cs. I’m enjoying tf2 a lot but i’m not sure how exactly to go about improving, I have like 10 hours of gameplay now
@@stelqt it's def tricky though my mechanical base comes from tf2 pubs LOL public mge and dm servers are alright,, but you get a lot of strange individuals there. the best would def be mge against a friend or 6s pugs but those can be a bit harder to come by :< if u and raven are still playing sometimes i'd be happy to do some 2v2 stuff if you'd like!
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YES I've been super interested about this mouse since I've seen it. I remember hearing rocket jump ninja talk about sensor placement saying something along the lines of "your brain moves your mouse relative to your index finger" and immediately thinking of a mouse design where the sensor and mouse button are directly on the tip of your index finger. Super cool to see this concept actually be made and not stay as a stupid sci fi fantasy I would never see in my lifetime.
thanx for yapping into my ears wihle i click dots
@@obsu
I watched this video and fell asleep watching it but not because its boring but because your voice and the backround music is so soothing. Now I will rewatch it awake
tyy
tons of appreciation for even the videos like this, with you just talking about the silly little mice you're interested in ^^
This video is such a chill vibe and a nice way of learning about unique stuff such as these kinds of mice. I'm also a HUGE fan of showing off Gunfire Reborn content while at it as I absolutely love this game to death! Definitely would love to see more content like these, be it for the vibes, the item being explored, or the Gunfire clips.
thank uuu
what if u did the arm sleeve thing where u run the cable through the sleeve lol
might have to try that,,
I was about to comment that but I see you were first 😭
@@moocow thats pretty smart
I really like these first impression videos. The mouse is quite interesting looking but I really see why its sort of a "pen grip" its like when you take a pencil and put it on an angle to do shading. overall great video!!
Cool mouse would be awesome to see more innovative shapes for mice in the future like this
PLEASE KEEP POSTING VIDS LIKE THIS THEY ARE MY FAVORITE EVER
pingu: it would mean a lot to me if you help me with something. I need to decide which mouse to buy and I’m stuck between either the op18k or the HTR. Sadly money is a constraint for me so from your standpoint which one should I purchase. I LOVE YOUR VIDS ❤❤❤❤
op18k 100% if you can only have one. it's very hard to go wrong with that mouse.
Can sell the htr pro to you for a slight discount, if interested !
@@johnzheng1424 oh no 😭
I cannot escape the existential dread of the heat death of the universe
Oh hell yes. I have been so interested in this thing since the creator posted about it.
i've been loving these videos, they're so nice to listen to and i'm a huge fan of these mouse reviews too - i got a keychron m4 today and i'm loving it so much, thank u for indirectly introducing me to ftip mice,,,,, u awesome
holy shit that's so cool omg
I feel like having the sensor be directly under your pointer finger would be super intuitive. Literally pointing at what you want to shoot.
I swear, we must have the exact same grip style because I also do everything you said in this video. Even using the mouse at a slight angle. That's so crazy.
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Hey Pingu, I'm a big fan of this channel.
The fact you could aim like this on your first try is really impressive - it took me a day or 2 to get comfortable aiming with the Titan 1.
I enjoyed the Titan 1 alot, and agree with the fact your fingers feel less involved with your aim compared to the HSK Pro, personally I like that about the Titan 1.
thank you!! great job with your vid on this mouse too ^^ i agree the amount of range of motion you want out is a stylistic thing though, i'll add that to the pinned comment :>
@@pinguefied Thanks 😊 ref the DPI, if you plug the mouse into the PC, by default it'll go to 800 dpi, if you hold right click and plug it in, it will change the dpi to 1600. I added another comment about the spin out issue
@@Log_Pile yeah I learned that later, which is what makes it even more insane that I managed to change the DPI mid-game somehow LOL
I saw this mouse on reddit some time ago and it's absolutely nuts. I'm really glad this exists and people creating stuff like this exist. Very cool. Sadly this kind of "mouse" is not viable for mouseonly osu (maybe clickx would work well), so I'm personally not interested...
But damn the concept is really really unique and interesting!
It seems you are really experienced with fingertip mice! Personally the reduction of weight is worth the less space that is available to rest on, but I digress.
Anyway, do you think you will make a fingertip mice tier list in the future? It would be nice, as I barely have any experience with these. Love your vids!
sadly there's not too much reduction of weight compared to the hsk pro or htr, the cable kinda equalizes it. and i'm not really sure i agree with that principle fully anyway haha. though i admit it's a stylistic thing, a lot of ppl use ftip mice as just a light object to hold, rather than having the fingers be actively aiming.
tier list maybe, i was planning on doing a roundup when i get the htx and it could be a fun way to end it
There is a spinout issue on this mouse, linked to the scroll wheel (a design issue), I had to send my unit back to Olaf to repair it.
oh the scroll wheel? what's the details of the issue, i don't think i was actually articulating the scroll wheel while the spinout was happening
@@pinguefied I think (I am not 100% sure) that the scroll wheel knocks the sensor out of place over time, so it isn't linked the use of scroll wheel, but more so linked to the impact of using the scroll wheel over time - so when the sensor is mis aligned, it will spin out randomly
@@Log_Pile gotcha... this is concerning news for me, i guess i'll bind spacebar to shoot during my test period LOL
hi hi!! since you're kinda using a lot of fingertip mice i would LOVE to hear your opinions of the Cooler Master MM720. it has a pretty niche audience and the shape is kinda insane... i love your reviews on these interesting finger tipping mice!
i feel like it would be rly bad for me since i like small mice, thin grip width and a lot of lateral ftip mobility, but it's a neat shape for sure c:
mayb i'll try someday, ty for the comment!!
10:15 the hvick225 method is goated
omg i never knew :o
i do remember that when i found out i was the same age as hvick i had a bit of a crisis though, where i was like "holy shit he's like 2x as good as me and we have the same amount of lived experience, is it becoming too late for me?"
if only i knew what was to become of the top 100...
I have a feeling that pen-like shapes are the future, but well see
i could see it.. i feel like the realization i had at the end, where pens are able to rotate for lateral movements and that not rly being possible with the way a mouse sensor works, i'm a bit more skeptical. but maybe!!
@@pinguefied I think the other problem with pens is they are prohibitively expensive to get something resembling a mouse latency. This would be for something like 250 polling rate.
Due to that, nobody has honestly tested a penshape. Its obviously possible to do 1000+, dont know what the prohibitive factors are in the tablet market.
Agree with what youre saying in other comments about click issues. You might have to keyboard shoot, but that would hypothetically be worth it if better aim.
The 3d printed thing from mousereview, cable placement is smart af
I love how a solid 50% of hyper lightweight mice just look like malnourished corpses, pretty cool concept though
@@FlookCS LMAO
@@pinguefied this is kinda random but have you tried using the endgame op18k?
@@FlookCS i have! i think it's easily the best value for money rn for small hands, i'm sure the xm2 will be up there too :o
though i cut mine in half for a fingertip mod and have a scroll wheel on it that i boiled for an hour on my stove LMAO so it's a little bit scuffed
casually brings out a pen mod for a pen lmao
LOL
man i'd really like to see someone play osu! with this thing
waiting for the next raw input podcast still...
@@wavy.pueblo we met up irl in melbourne!! we'll be back soon
@@pinguefied thats so cute! i hope u guys enjoyed ur time 🤧🤧
hi pingu bestie, excited for another banger
7 minutes in and i’d just like to say, i’m so envious of your aim, genuinely i don’t get how you and the guys at voltaic accomplish this robotic level of aim, like even after 400 hours of benchmarks, vdims, watching technique videos i just can’t get past diamond, not even diamond complete
@@JzouVal dang that's like 5 ranks higher than me!!
@@pinguefied bro is #1 capper😭
wut in tarnation
big fan
I gotta know what keyboard you are using, it sounds amazing.
oh ty ^^ it's a lily58 with some light mods haha
What music do you use in videos? Its surprisingly calming
I wanna get into trying fingertip mice, what would you recommend?
i haven't used it myself but i've heard the darmoshark m5 is a solid option for that hsk plus type of feel. i think it's $50 on maxgaming and they're doing a giveaway on twt rn for it
the keychron m4 is also a solid mouse for how cheap it is, and it gives a similar pen-like feeling to the hsk pro. i didn't love the shape but some ppl do
aside from that, hsk pro ace is about $130 with no 4k and you could prolly find an original wired hsk somewhere too for pretty cheap :o
Question that's barely even related to the vid: Will you ever make a public release of your TF2 HUD? I get that it's an edit of an already existing HUD, however most people really don't know how to edit HUDs and it would be pretty nice to have as a there is a decent amount of people who want it.
What about a tablet (like people use in OSU) but the pen has an m1? that would be the play surely. We're talking sub 10g mouse.
kariyu has a few videos using tablet as mouse for valorant
i feel like having the pen have m1 will create a lot of cursor instability with having to apply pressure to press it, but it might be better than tap to shoot. size, binds, and stability were the main issues i ran into when trying to make the playstyle viable haha. i tried to solve size (didn't want to buy a huge tablet) by using accel, binds by using foot pedals, and stability by making the pen only track while you are dragging. but still really hard to match the versatility of mouse for fps.
@@pinguefiedshoot with the space bar. Not the pen.
@@houssamalucad753 yeah that's why i had to bust out the foot pedals 😔 you run out of binds quite quickly with no mouse buttons
but maybe the azeron.....
@@pinguefied foot pedals are a smart idea, what's the latency like compared to the latest keyboards?
another level
Didnt know you were an osu player thats really cool
yaya that's rly where my obsession with overthinking mechanics started, i used to write these massive walls of text on reddit about my thoughts on improvement LOL
@@pinguefied you know what that makes a lot of sense since every other player i know (including myself) is a giga overthinker LMAO
Do you think you could maybe get joshuawn on a podcast-style video?
I think that could be really interesting :>
Loved the video!
that's a great idea!! bro is a yapper fs, that would be fun
erm what the sigma
You could maybe attach the cable to your arm? Probably a stupid idea😊
what is the mouse pad that you suggest when i asked for one my parents bought me a good pad but its a 31.5 x 11.8 inch pad witch feels kinda small at times. yours seems more like a square than a rectangle like mine does if anyone has tips i would be much appreciated
Honestly if you play fps games i would recommend getting a well balanced control pad like the lgg saturn pro or the artisan zero. You can also go with hybrid pads or speed pad in general like the artisan hien or artisan shidenkai and you can also go glasspads but i dont really recommend them because it takes a while to get used to it but if youre up to the challenge to try it its much fun.
What dot skates do you recommend for the artisan zero?
jades and tiger ice are safe picks, but anything relatively fast will do!
I was interested in this thing but saw that the guy making them had stopped. How'd you get yours?
Hopefully a real set of "finger" mice are in our near future
@@matt____ hi brim!! r u excited for mh wilds..
sadly mine is just a loaner from a periph enthusiast. do you use ftip mice? i feel like the m4 and hsk pro are pretty good at what they do rn :o
what are your thoughts about the zeromouse?
very cool! mostly optimizing for weight though, i think it'd be a bit wide for me
@@pinguefied i see you have good taste, thats a sub
Would it be prohibitive if you rubber banded the cable to your arm instead of letting it hang/contact the pad?
LOL i might try that next time
Hi goat keep it up yipe
have u tried this mouse while doing some jumping on tf2. im guessing it would feel a bit weird
yeah i forgot to do tr_denial, i can try next time. i think it would be fine tho with all my ftip experience, can't imagine it's worse than trying to do wide angle ts
what game is this? looks fun
gunfire reborn!
ill be real, regardless of how this performs i refuse to use a bottle opener as a mouse
pingu is just such a cutie
At that point wouldn't aiming with a digital pen be the same?
not quite,, there are a lot of compromises you make with pen aim. i think you really need a tablet with adjustable LOD, and also getting a tablet big enough to be usable in all games seems very expensive while having competitive latency :
@@pinguefied yeah ig the price is the main problem for a big enough tablet, but their latency is usually good. Good latency is critical for a graphics tablet and a main selling feature.
Man, how tf did you get your hands in one of these??????
loaner :>
your house is so scary
@@LA_MALA_ORDINA wdym!
@@pinguefied it looks like a house you'd see in a horror movie 😭
mwocha enjoyer 👍
i need another one of those sweaters so badddd
Can you give us the link to the 1$ skates?
www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806320684210.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt has to be with a new account to get them that cheap. i can't comment on durability but ya pretty good so far!
what g
what game are u playing?
@@R1CH1E510 gunfire reborn, battlefield v
brotha you gotta color grade yo footage 😭😭😭😭
gameplay or camera stuff? this is meant to be a very unprofessional channel but i'm curious for your input haha
oh, whats this streamed by the way? or is it just a recording?
just recording haha
What is this game?
gunfire reborn, bfv
@@pinguefied Thank you for the response. Btw any idea when this mouse will become widely available? Seems cool would like to try it
@@MartinMlBanic i don't think it ever will sadly. they are doing a second drop for version 2 somewhat soon, but this kind of thing is so homemade and niche i can't see it having big production runs haha
@@pinguefied Too bad then
How the hell do you have the time to improve at all these things. Obviously over time one begins to improve ag improving, but what the fuck. Make a guide or something.
what are u referring to in this vid haha
@@pinguefiedI think they just mean overall everything you do like penspinning balisongs aiming etc
@@stelqt oh i see, maybe ^^ i'm always happy to answer questions abt whatever haha
i saw u roll raven in mge btw, doing the lord's work 🙏
@@pinguefied pff nah I’m the one that got rolled I had like 0.5 kd, I used to play tf long long ago as a kid but it was only 200 hours or so with it being completely casual, i’ve been aimtraining for a while now and want to get into more games with more aiming cuz I only played cs. I’m enjoying tf2 a lot but i’m not sure how exactly to go about improving, I have like 10 hours of gameplay now
@@stelqt it's def tricky though my mechanical base comes from tf2 pubs LOL
public mge and dm servers are alright,, but you get a lot of strange individuals there. the best would def be mge against a friend or 6s pugs but those can be a bit harder to come by :<
if u and raven are still playing sometimes i'd be happy to do some 2v2 stuff if you'd like!
If you don’t want the mouse I’m down to buy it of you
it's not mine haha
Would they be willing to sell it???