I downloaded the demo a few days ago and even my nephew, who is a FIFA person, admits that this is far better than FIFA 17. The demo is very fluid no extremely playable. I wonder how he'll compare it to FIFA 18?
paul tagliabue Bizarre. I also switch the Square and O buttons around. I do prefer having the O button as the shoot command and Square button as the cross command.
You have to try the demo, guys. It's an amazing game, super fun and realistic. I hope it sells a lot of copies because PES 2018 deserves it and FIFA needs a wake up call. I'm switching to PES this year.
I love the pace and contextual gameplay of PES this year. By contextual I mean the best players can get away from other players with a simple quick turn of the left stick and a quick press of the sprint button whereas I feel in FIFA you need to perform a trick skill to get away and the best players don't feel as unique as they do in PES Honestly I'm not a huge fan of this "Fifa or PES?" in that you must only like one or the other, it's very juvenile. Both are very good games, personally I prefer PES and have for the last 3yrs but I've still played FIFA in the last 3yrs years
i have always played fifa, but after playing the demo of this, i’m astonished at how good some of the gameplay of PES is. Fifa will always have better licensing but this year i think gameplay will have to go to PES. it’s looking like the first time i’ll buy a PES game too, even if i still get fifa.
I'm moving back to PES after many years. Fed up of Fifa, the gameplay is repetitive & I don't feel you can improve to beat the predictable AI which has spurts of insane shots out of nowhere. Licensing's the main issue but websites can thankfully help
Can't get close on FIFA to tackle he says. Just go to the controls somewhere and change the defending to legacy from tactical . I stopped playing FIFA a few years back but that option might still be there
it may sounds strange but i dont like the fact, that every goal the ball comes out of the goal... 100% thats not Realistic at all..., an when i played the demo, i feel like the game is skripted. exemple: because some passes you know it will come you cannot stop, because you own player automaticly makes space for the pass (sorry for my bad english)
Fifa has all these players, they might as well give some to Konami because people only use the fast players, Pirlo, Kroos etc are overlooked. After a while you face the same teams, with the same players, over and over again on ultimate team.
hi, can you guys show us what's different in the BAL in PES 2018? is there any difference in creating new players and how they look? is there any additions to the running motions and goal celebrations? can we add tattoos on our players or make more varied haircuts? i'm asking coz BAL is the only reason I play PES and I hate how it's the same thing every year.. so i'm not getting PES 2018 if it's the same as 2017.
I know.. I thought they maybe got the full game because they're a big gaming channel. sometimes developers send full games to gaming channels for reviews.
I know PES focuses on gameplay, which is good, but they seriously need to do something about the pitch. FIFA's pitch is just glorious and they excel in presentation. Looks like PES doesn't care or has just given up.
every year people moan that FIFA is like the previous one but still bang on about FIFA is better than PES. im a huge FIFA fan but this year PES game play is far superior , as well as the animations and graphics also some audio sounds much better (ball hitting the net , crowd cheer from goal etc) FIFA is popular only due to the license's , easy skills and FUT. im going to get both this year
if EA didn't think pes wasn't competition they would let pes buy the licence aswell, the fact they keep it for themselves and threaten Konami speaks volumes.. they know pes if fully licenced would be very serious competition
Tobias Thomsen I think they answered this in one of the Q&A subscriber special videos, can't remember their answers though so you'll have to go check it out
Seeing the old pespattern at works. Think it has to do with momentum change after scoring/conceiding. Results in a higher probability for a goal to be scored. Likewise each half kickoffs often results in dangerous first time attacks. Furthermore after player subs and close to stoppagetime for each half also ups the probability for scoring goals. Guess developers needs some momemtum shifting in order for things to happen in a simulated context were a game is played in 7 mins halfs compared to the real life 90+ counterpart. I usually drop my defense after scoring a goal, helps alot. Thanks for vid
the way u talked about not to do something to shield and just the game should do it.. i feel fifa is better there u have to do things u have lt done ... if u play hardcore u might do things that better than others .. here its too simple for me... tactics i must say impressive but i do that in fifa too ... its just people who play for timepass complain.... pes is okay for me because fifa i don't get bored.... but i guess everyone sticks to what they love ... whatever rob said that pes has and all that doesn't make me wanna switch ... as i personally feel fifa also has everything ...but good for them if they love it... also m gonna stick to fifa
Unfortunately defending is absolute garbage on the 2018 Demo.. every time the CPU plays a ball over the top, your defenders just run away from the player it is going to and they are completely alone in the penalty area, given time to bring the ball under control and score!! It's frustratingly dreadful.. it happens every time..for reference i play on Superstar and Manual controls.. I conceded a goal earlier and the reply showed their striker side-by-side with my defender and when the player out wide began the animation to play a cross into the box, my defender just ran away and left the striker by himself. Every single game it happens. Your defenders are just programmed to give the opposition players space inside the area! I love PES, so i desperately hope they fix this issue in the day one patch.. otherwise i can see myself hardly bothering to play the game this year. Attacking-wise the game is excellent, but defensively it is terrible.
I think it is acceptable that small producers/studios sometimes use standard technological solutions to make their productions viable (even if this would compromise somehow the final quality of their games, because maybe it's their only way to do it), but a company with Konami's history and credentials has some kind of moral duty to innovate and avoid the easiest and cheaper solutions. Ok, would be unfair to call it Pro INVOLUTION Soccer 2018, it's way better than the 2017 version. But come on, Konami has so much fame, money, time and knowhow, and PES2018 players still seems like fake plastic dolls, specially during the anthem: what about these bizarre robot mouths and rubber bent arms? Is it a football game or some kind of futuristic nightmare? "Better than before" does not necessary means that it is "good". And yes, there are already so much good technology available to make it better (see the Hellblade character for example).
EA are the ones that point blank refuse to let Konami buy into a licence. . they want it for themselves as they know pes is very strong competition and the only thing that keeps fifa ahead is the licence
Decisi while you make a valid point, in that case the defensive line should be high too, not sitting deep and leaving space to be exploited. I've played pes demo myself and found the defensive mechanics disappointing
That game was nice and the game sure looks good, but I miss the screaming, the frustration, the celebration, the happiness, commenting after recording ain't the same.
They have got Liverpool's defending absolute spot on: diabolical!!
Looks amazing I'm getting it this year I'm making the switch back to Pes after 7 years of FIFA
So how you like it? My first PES game ever. I'm super impressed.
pes has always been the king since pes3
I downloaded the demo a few days ago and even my nephew, who is a FIFA person, admits that this is far better than FIFA 17. The demo is very fluid no extremely playable. I wonder how he'll compare it to FIFA 18?
i agree extremely playable, i even use fifa control scheme because im not interested in relearning after 5-6 years of fifa
paul tagliabue
Bizarre. I also switch the Square and O buttons around. I do prefer having the O button as the shoot command and Square button as the cross command.
fifa main since fifa 12 here and i must say PES 2018 really grew on me when i play the demo, it grew so much that i want to buy it xDD
This look's NextGen!
I've been a FIFA player for aeons and If these 2 games merged, I would gladly pay £70 for the game!
This game looks very impressive
fox engine. Also fox engine's games feels good to control imo.
XGALARION yea, I've played last year's version and I could definitely say its alot like a real football simulator since I play fifa
the king... has returned .
Third year in a row I'm gonna be getting PES !
I changed the brightness and contrast to how it should and it made the graphics look so realisticc
I played Fifa since 2000 but the demo this year convinced me to give PES a try
PES has come a long way. I think it's actually worth looking at nowadays. FIFA seems to be evolving very slowly.
You have to try the demo, guys. It's an amazing game, super fun and realistic. I hope it sells a lot of copies because PES 2018 deserves it and FIFA needs a wake up call. I'm switching to PES this year.
Marc Sales I've switched last year from Fifa to pes. Pes18 awesome
I like to play fast,counterattacking football. PES 2017 was perfect for that, will i be able to play like that this year ?
I cant even run Fifa anymore and the last kinda good fifas were 2013/14...
players looks really good with the new football boots and also with the amazing dortmund home kit :D
Well done Rob, you picked a very good side 4-2 win, maybe do best of 3 with Dave 👍
I love the pace and contextual gameplay of PES this year. By contextual I mean the best players can get away from other players with a simple quick turn of the left stick and a quick press of the sprint button whereas I feel in FIFA you need to perform a trick skill to get away and the best players don't feel as unique as they do in PES
Honestly I'm not a huge fan of this "Fifa or PES?" in that you must only like one or the other, it's very juvenile. Both are very good games, personally I prefer PES and have for the last 3yrs but I've still played FIFA in the last 3yrs years
first impression of the demo was a bit disappointed but the more you play it the more you realise just how good it feels
i have always played fifa, but after playing the demo of this, i’m astonished at how good some of the gameplay of PES is. Fifa will always have better licensing but this year i think gameplay will have to go to PES. it’s looking like the first time i’ll buy a PES game too, even if i still get fifa.
Will you be doing an office mini league with both PES and FIFA....Please Dave,Dan,Nath and Rob. The player that finishes last gets in the Onesie.
wonderful demo !
I don't even like soccer but I like Rob and PS Access.
I'm getting PES this year, first time too. I'm done with FIFA scripted as gameplay!
Same
yeah i use to laugh at PES but fifa screwed me up 2 years straight, not fun at all
exactly, go to pes now
i just feel sorry for the fifa fanboys who are gonna suffer another year of stifling gameplay and no thrill goals
paul tagliabue why u feeling bad? They are blind and defend their game and wasting their parents money to buy packs every minute!
I'm moving back to PES after many years. Fed up of Fifa, the gameplay is repetitive & I don't feel you can improve to beat the predictable AI which has spurts of insane shots out of nowhere. Licensing's the main issue but websites can thankfully help
Can't get close on FIFA to tackle he says. Just go to the controls somewhere and change the defending to legacy from tactical . I stopped playing FIFA a few years back but that option might still be there
it may sounds strange but i dont like the fact, that every goal the ball comes out of the goal... 100% thats not Realistic at all..., an when i played the demo, i feel like the game is skripted. exemple: because some passes you know it will come you cannot stop, because you own player automaticly makes space for the pass (sorry for my bad english)
did not play any other foot ball game looked boring but pes 18 lookes great and will get as soon as poseble
Pes is like battlefield in the way its the better game out of its rivals but after a while everyone goes back to cod/fifa for the simplicity and fun.
the pes 2018 4k ps4 pro update is not out yet? when will arrive the patch?
Doesn't feel like a proper game of pes/FIFA when the two people always compliment each other when they playing
Fifa has all these players, they might as well give some to Konami because people only use the fast players, Pirlo, Kroos etc are overlooked. After a while you face the same teams, with the same players, over and over again on ultimate team.
hi, can you guys show us what's different in the BAL in PES 2018? is there any difference in creating new players and how they look? is there any additions to the running motions and goal celebrations? can we add tattoos on our players or make more varied haircuts? i'm asking coz BAL is the only reason I play PES and I hate how it's the same thing every year.. so i'm not getting PES 2018 if it's the same as 2017.
There's no BAL in the demo...
I know.. I thought they maybe got the full game because they're a big gaming channel. sometimes developers send full games to gaming channels for reviews.
The defense needs alot of tuning. I noticed that L1 triangle passes almost impossible to defend hopfully just demo fail. Am i trippin? Feed back
I know PES focuses on gameplay, which is good, but they seriously need to do something about the pitch.
FIFA's pitch is just glorious and they excel in presentation. Looks like PES doesn't care or has just given up.
Pes just need to improve the realness of goalkeeping. Others are perfect. Im bit pissed off how easy the goalkeeper is with bad gesture
I played both ps3&ps4 version ,ps3 gameplay smoother than ps4 ,not graphic?
The thing about Dave is, he always tries to walk it in...
Howard Cj IT Crowd?
Why do you guys record commentary after?
every year people moan that FIFA is like the previous one but still bang on about FIFA is better than PES. im a huge FIFA fan but this year PES game play is far superior , as well as the animations and graphics also some audio sounds much better (ball hitting the net , crowd cheer from goal etc) FIFA is popular only due to the license's , easy skills and FUT. im going to get both this year
little lag on display... are u sure PES 2018 PS4 lag?
As real as it gets ♡♡
not real dude !for the real football FIFA 18 !
Fazer softi fifa is trash
Liverpool v Dortmund in the Nou camp?!
Elneny Effect nou camp only stadium in the demo
Rob B no its not
Not bad, but does annoy me how the grass when they walk out is still like concrete when they walk on it.
I don't like PES but I like PlayStation access so this video gets a like.
Steve Merchant plays well as Liverpool
if EA didn't think pes wasn't competition they would let pes buy the licence aswell, the fact they keep it for themselves and threaten Konami speaks volumes.. they know pes if fully licenced would be very serious competition
Should have played at the Dortmund ground, looks so much better than in Fifa
deni sherlock Day matches are amazing
Shooting still feels so arcade. One dimensional to describe it perfectly. That and the GK AI is the only thing FIFA is better at than PES
Still looks like a cartoon
yeah buddy And FIFA doesn't?
fifa is too robotic
Azmy Jr. Are you for real? Dont you mean pes? 😂
Rip fifa
Fulham hamster I don't think so. As impressive as this game is, it only has like 3 teams, which is a real letdown for me
this is not 2005, sorry
Ever heard of option files?
option files 10 minutes and you have all the clubs,stadioums
I think it needs 10% more pace. It's very good though. Too bad I sold my PS3. Does the PS4 version look that kick better than PS3?
Aniket Dessai 💯
Im curious what you're favorite football teams are, Playstation Access guys??? :)
Tobias Thomsen I think they answered this in one of the Q&A subscriber special videos, can't remember their answers though so you'll have to go check it out
Tobias Thomsen Rob favourite is Crystal Palace
Have to say you're my favourite channel lads you're approach is similar to mine
Seeing the old pespattern at works. Think it has to do with momentum change after scoring/conceiding. Results in a higher probability for a goal to be scored. Likewise each half kickoffs often results in dangerous first time attacks. Furthermore after player subs and close to stoppagetime for each half also ups the probability for scoring goals. Guess developers needs some momemtum shifting in order for things to happen in a simulated context were a game is played in 7 mins halfs compared to the real life 90+ counterpart. I usually drop my defense after scoring a goal, helps alot. Thanks for vid
God knows what the keepers doing lol
I would get pes but I'm so used to FIFA over the years and always wreck people
the way u talked about not to do something to shield and just the game should do it.. i feel fifa is better there u have to do things u have lt done ... if u play hardcore u might do things that better than others .. here its too simple for me... tactics i must say impressive but i do that in fifa too ... its just people who play for timepass complain.... pes is okay for me because fifa i don't get bored.... but i guess everyone sticks to what they love ... whatever rob said that pes has and all that doesn't make me wanna switch ... as i personally feel fifa also has everything ...but good for them if they love it... also m gonna stick to fifa
luffy d sid Did you play PES demo? If so, you would move right away.
Last time I played pes was 2013.. the defense is too easy to breach and the through ball is too op and too many.. other than that it's pretty solid..
Ps3 version also looks same but lower graphics
I never understood how the soccer games always looked better than the NBA and Madden games every year.
Imagiantpanda2002 true
Is there real Madrid and bayren Munich?
Officially
What's up with the player's mouths? Especially during celebrations. Everything else looks great!!
Unfortunately defending is absolute garbage on the 2018 Demo.. every time the CPU plays a ball over the top, your defenders just run away from the player it is going to and they are completely alone in the penalty area, given time to bring the ball under control and score!! It's frustratingly dreadful.. it happens every time..for reference i play on Superstar and Manual controls..
I conceded a goal earlier and the reply showed their striker side-by-side with my defender and when the player out wide began the animation to play a cross into the box, my defender just ran away and left the striker by himself.
Every single game it happens. Your defenders are just programmed to give the opposition players space inside the area!
I love PES, so i desperately hope they fix this issue in the day one patch.. otherwise i can see myself hardly bothering to play the game this year. Attacking-wise the game is excellent, but defensively it is terrible.
Kereeen.!!!!
Anyone else been fouled yet by the AI?
SimplyMonkey nope lol
I actually did but on the 360 demo xD
Alot
And not one foul!
The match is so open because Liverpool forwards don't track back. Goals look cheap and too easy to score
#301 club the club that's not a club anymore
where firmino's tattoo?
The best!!!
I think it is acceptable that small producers/studios sometimes use standard technological solutions to make their productions viable (even if this would compromise somehow the final quality of their games, because maybe it's their only way to do it), but a company with Konami's history and credentials has some kind of moral duty to innovate and avoid the easiest and cheaper solutions. Ok, would be unfair to call it Pro INVOLUTION Soccer 2018, it's way better than the 2017 version. But come on, Konami has so much fame, money, time and knowhow, and PES2018 players still seems like fake plastic dolls, specially during the anthem: what about these bizarre robot mouths and rubber bent arms? Is it a football game or some kind of futuristic nightmare? "Better than before" does not necessary means that it is "good". And yes, there are already so much good technology available to make it better (see the Hellblade character for example).
Why there's no hdr???
Don't upload in 4K
Looks slow and sluggish? Where's the improvement?
KaySlay1 play the demo and you would see the improvements.
Why can't PES and FIFA share licenses. Not fair that the worse game takes the great stadiums from FIFA
A Person Fifa takes teams and leagues from Pes, and Pes takes Stadiums and Legends from Fifa
EA are the ones that point blank refuse to let Konami buy into a licence. . they want it for themselves as they know pes is very strong competition and the only thing that keeps fifa ahead is the licence
PES also takes UEFA licesensing from FIFA
Saying that is like "Why can't you and I share money ?" I want that ? You want that ? No.
It’s competition so why would they
Me and my friend game share, I'm buying pes and he's getting Fifa so we'll have both haha
Lewis Charlwood good idea
Pea could never be a good “football” game, when the name is “soccer”
I'm still gonna get Fifa but ngl pes looks unreal
after 25 seconds.... the grass looks soooo Playstation 2.
yeh?.....grass is still grass....u ever step into a football pitch?
It doesn't look like grass. Grass has depth, contrast, relief.. like in FIFA. This just looks like a pale gym surface.
i look out at my front yard...the grass look the same just like 20 yrs ago....they dont need plastic surgery.
The defending looks atrocious. There's so much space to exploit, the teams should be more compact
Both teams playing the high press, pretty logical that the defence would be exposed when the press is bypassed.
In PES, team behavior is much more dependent on tactics. In the demo, Germany plays with very tight defense, for example.
Decisi while you make a valid point, in that case the defensive line should be high too, not sitting deep and leaving space to be exploited. I've played pes demo myself and found the defensive mechanics disappointing
Alvey agreed, line should be higher with proper offside trap too. Hope they actually improve on this before full release.
You guys play like you're playing fifa.
Wish Xbox allowed kit importing, it would make the whole game so much better. Meh
14adamrichardson sadly Microsoft doesn't allow it.
abdou sisay it's bizarre, why don't they? I hate the generic kit creator
These two blokes are the two most uncharismatic people on God's green Earth.
What kind of s*** is that green thing? Is that supposed to be a grass field?
dont know why people are so happy that feels realistic and all. all im seeing is a fifa 13 rip off with better graphics lmao
Alright
i guess we will never get fluid and realistic animations in a football game :(
s0ad29 have you played the demo. If so, you would know animations are very realistic this year. The best in any football game.
"physicalness"???
Bloody Hell! Are these guys not journalists??
No.
PES DONT HAVE MOMENTUM!!!
First
To say nobody care
Dave just cannot win against Rob or Nathan! It’s time to retire Dave.
Soccer*
Real Football Notice it fifakids
It's alright. But it's fifa for me
Don't enjoy the goals to samey goals
it looks so sluggish compared to last year though
4k 60 fps pes4 pro
#301club :D
That game was nice and the game sure looks good, but I miss the screaming, the frustration, the celebration, the happiness, commenting after recording ain't the same.
It is cartoony
I don't like the commentary they sound depressed
#301club