When you try to write a Misogynistic Character but your only influence is that one clueless guy who misspelled your name on your Starbuck cup in California
Never happened to me, and I've lived in LA, my entire life. I wouldn't write someone this terrible, because I've genuinely seen terrible men, and women that womanize, misogynistic tendencies, and r@p3 women on the daily basis. These show writers are just terrible writers.
"Son, we need to have a word." "This is a portal to a different series. don't know how good it is, but it's gotta be better than this--go! There's no time, save yourself!"
“Whoa there, kiddo. We need to rap for a minute about your ‘tude. ...I’m a cool writer! Please think I’m cool, we’ve all been on Tumblr most of our lives and the only man I know is my creepy uncle who visits on Thanksgiving! Please like us!”
“Huh, should’ve known you were stuck up.” In contrast with the rest of the scene, this one line delivery sounded pretty good. Not the actual line in context or anything, just the voice actor’s performance. Something decent is so out of place I woke up for a second.
@@Aevum13th In comparison to the "sexist/discriminatory" lines that were so bland I thought, "Wow, he's pretty horrible with names... and the comment of cute must be pretty unintentional cause of how awkward he seeems". Like, I didn't realize he was supposed to be... a character that wasn't just awkward and bored. And forgetful (or obsessed with rutabaga, the vegetable)
I like to think the “Wow!” wasn’t in the script, it was just the actor’s reaction to what he’s about to read for a paycheck. “Wow!(What has my life become?) Son, we need to have a word.”
It’s like there’s entire sections of dialogue missing that they forgot to capture and had hastily to string the ones they caught together into disjointed sentences.
Teacher: "Son, we need to have a word." "If you're going to throw insults at the newbie, you need to loosen up. Don't deliver your taunting so stalely. And be sure to *really* dig deep into them. I want to see tears next time you dish it out." Aster: "Thanks for the advice, teach. I won't let you down."
“Should’ve known you were stuck-up” sounds like it was just the actor caught on a hot mic but the writers were just too stupid to realize that he was insulting them and not ad-libbing a line 😂
This honestly feels like that time Jaden Smith and some Hollywood dipshits made their own "anime", but it was just cheap animation and cringey dialogue. This is that, but instead of Hollywood elitism, we get woke shit
Their existence is based around pillaging the industry. They've worked to destroy the indie subbing scene and pumped yet more poison into the industry in the form of guidance so that a unique cultural expression starts to become like everything else because Americans can't deal with anything they don't understand or that could make them uncomfortable. On top of all that, they don't even pay the studios they license content off of well.
"I too write human dialogue for humans. Now lets go fellow humans, let us go partake the engorging of beef by products with weeds, and milk based frozen drink."
The escalation of this scene is so damn weird. First you get Rosemary's weird groaning line, then you get Aster's response about her being stuck-up which, contextually, seems to have no easing into it. And then Rosemary growls? And the way the professor abruptly steps in? It's so unnatural. The pacing of their conversation and emotions is all off.
@@Deadflower019 It could actually, if they made it so that it was all just acting for a theater story. That way, this whole cringe stuff wouldn't be cringe anymore because it's just all acting.
@@solarflames7721 I thought it was supposed to be the feminist cliche of the guy trying to hit on the girl only when she rejects his advances he gets mad and calls her a B!txh. She kinda is though
my favorite “misogynistic” character ever written has to be sokka from avatar the last airbender. he’s naturally written, and his progression makes sense. this dude feels so inorganic tho.
Sokka grew up in a society with highly enforced gender roles. He had been raised to believe that men best served the role of warrior/breadwinner while women were better at housekeeping. When he explored new cultures and found indisputably that this was not true, he apologized and humbled himself. It was such a simple, honest part of his character progression compared to this abomination
My dream as a young artist was to make my own manga/ or comic and potential get a show. Seeing this, really boosted my confidence. If they can put this and the anime adaptation of berserk, I know that they will put anything on there.
Yeah but then you realize it’s not the show itself they liked, they just wanted a show that’s progressive and woke by a team of woman so they can score some points with the wokes on Twitter.
@@legalza0843 that's easy to get past actually, they didn't even actually develop the trans character, proving that they don't even care about the minorities, they only want bonus points and big companies will buy anything if you say you got what the teens want, just put on a character that screams 'I WAS A DUDE BEFORE!' even couple of episodes and you're good, the reviewers won't even bother checking cuz they don't really care either, they also just want any kind of show that has diverse people to say "look at us teens, we support minorities, you can keep giving us money **clown nose noises** " just make whatever plot you want, don't matter how shitty, generic, or badly developed it is anyways, make the main character's only personality trait being: gay (since apparently, homosexuality isn't a preference but yes a character definition), and then send to Netflix or Crunchyroll, it will probably get animated
@@InTheEnd75 berserk 2016 and 2017, on top of being horribly animated , SOMEHOW, managed to ruin the story of the manga by cutting out massive portions of the story or changing important dialogue
Honestly, this show is a boost of confidence to any creator. If something like this could not only enter into full production but SOMEHOW also see the light of day Then anyone with any creativity or vision for a personal project has a good shot as well
I personally wouldn't respond like that, but it did feel natural and I've seen similar responses before. on top of that it had Flavor(TM) that they could've built on instead of mixing it into the stew of 23+ ideas where there should've be one. i think that the issue is that they had "bits" of concepts but then didn't build on or space them out.
“Hello fellow tweens! (smirks) My name is CHAD MANspread and I think girl = weak. I guess Rubicon here proved me wrong. Just this once though. I’m also a misogynist. Could you tell?”
@Ale Mar They advertised their own show by touting their "100% female" writer's room in 2018 and are now getting it rubbed in their faces. No footage, no audio, just 'diversity'. Let High Guardian Spice stand as a cautionary tale against affirmative action hiring.
@@beheritman It isn't just that they were all women, it's that they were all woke feminazis who spent a good portion of their time ranting about how men are all terrible and should die on social media.
@Jack Roosevelt Jack gets it. When rubbing 'Our show is better because wamminz' back in their faces, don't pause to give them re-assurances of "Don't worry, not all, not all! Someone women are wonderful! Pretty please don't call me sexist!"
@Ale Mar bad is bad. If I don't like something, TO ME that is bad. If I go in a restaurant and Gordon Ramsey himself cooks my dinner and I don’t like it, then my dinner was bad. If Elton John himself comes to my birthday to sing "Happy birthday to you" live and he doesn’t sing well, to me that song is bad. If a bunch of animators fail to represent the most basic human movement or fails to write believable dialogue or utterly fail at mixing in such a way that the background music covers the dialogue or causes a character (Slime Boy) to sound like the VA was half asleep or drunk...the show *TO ME* is bad. Enough free passes, male/female/trans/asexual/polysexual/homosexual/lesbian/LGBTQUFDGDHTGHDYIIGDSDGHUY2565VR5366576$#@!+#/&_€$× is not an excuse to offer a subpar product. I assure you that 90% of the "haters" would have admitted of having been wrong IF the show was actually good. I would have. As it is, this is at best a 6/10 show on my scale. Sexism, misogyny or whatever else has nothing to do with it. I want quality in my entertainment, then the character can fuck/get fucked how they want, I don't care about that.
This is why, and no I will never call the show and anime, but I've heard a lot of sjw's talk about support female anime writers blah blah blah but to be honest with you, as someone who calls myself a feminist and an otaku, the most feminist anime I've watched and manga I've read were written by men, ironically, the stuff written by women, we're actually quite condescending towards women. It's almost like they had internalized misogyny or something. They hyper focused way too much on a roll of a woman and basically a lot of female tropes that just need to die off for goodness sakes, and I have to say, in comparison, evangelion is a whole heck of a lot more politically correct than this show by a long shot. It shows a humanized, non-toxic masculine male character, and authentic representation of a boy with actual complicated emotions who cries, and isn't a stereotype in any direction, and deals with the very real problem of daddy issues. It is vent art, and to be honest with you, while I love the basis of the plot, I really struggle to watch evangelion, just simply because especially if someone who's been sexually assaulted before, I just can't watch the poor thing go through several seasons of episodes living with a woman who's literally grooming him. If you don't know what I'm talking about, note like the first scene, where he has a photograph of the woman who's supposed to pick him up, and literally, misato has a photograph of her with handwritten notes on it pointing out her cleavage and everything, it was so disturbing. I've really feel bad for the poor kid, I know he's fictional, but that's why I can't watch it, I just feel too bad for him and I will always cringe at the female characters in that anime, I'm guessing it was reflective of something the creator of it went through, I'm assuming also how he sexualizes shinji's sexual abusers, I kind of wondered if the guy was maybe groomed by women growing up?? I don't know it seems very likely to me, either way, I feel really bad for both the writer as well as the fictional character he wrote that goes through all kinds of horrendous things. Either way though, evangelion has much better social representation than this show ever will Edit: I was using voice to text, and how I said anime made Google think I said enemy
So to sum up this scene: Some guy makes an announcement to a the team that girls are hot Girl gets offended. He calls the girl stuck up. The captain acts like he was just caught doing drugs behind the bleachers. This show must be how aliens think humans interact.
Seeing this show is like the times I’ve drank too much. In those times I drank enough to understand whats going on, but it doesn’t click right in my head, and I feel so disconnected from whatever I’m watching.
@@saulesalejos4483 oh I’m sure there’s plenty of people who would love to riff on it, but yeah, it’s pretty janky to have to stare at for long periods of time
@@saulesalejos4483 It’s shitty shows like this that need to be abridged the most, cause it’s the only way to make them fun: by ripping the hell out of ‘em XD
If I ever write anything with dialogue even nearly as bad as this please put a bullet between my eyes. I would rather die then watch my writing become as bad as this.
@@videosalpaso5323 Actually not really surprising since I've seen people really that easily deceived but I still was wondering why if HGS is talked about by so many people.
The out if context black guy walking up to him and saying "son we need to have a word" is just so funny because he just comes out of nowhere like drip goku
THE FUCKINH “wow son we need to have a word” AND THEN THE CUTOFF IS SO FUCKING FUNNY TO ME I HAVE BEEN GIGGLING AT IT FOR 30 MINUTES AND HIS VOICE IS SO BAD
The women who wrote this have never held a real conversation with a real human male in their entire lives. Edit: Watching this comment blow up over the last two days was pretty fun. Thanks guys and gals (:
@@anasbakhit4303 Yeah it's in the video. I was just struck with the realization that these women (and trans men I guess) are basically the inverse of the stereotype of the nerdy socially inept dude that never talks to girls. It made me realize that getting no attention from the opposite sex is just as unhealthy for women as it is for men.
It sucks when the few talented people drown along with the rest of the ship just because the alcoholic captain thought the iceberg would move out the way if they screamed at it loud enough.
I got crapot ideas like FGO but the Van der Linde Gang and Desperado from MGR are summonable and it's sorta self insert And I got Autism and ADHD and I think it is better then this shrahk...
@@DonVigaDeFierro no it's more if I can do them right that I am worried about, Sundowner's the easiest, Sam I might have a little trouble with, Memesoon, Kham and Mistral will be hard and I am REALLY worried about fucking up the greatest politician ever
Considering this is a "CrunchyRoll Original Series" I HIGHLY doubt that this is getting a Netflix adaptation. Also consider who made this series and how it was made.
It's funny how the writer's of this show say that men can't write good female characters, yet somehow they managed to not only write the worst female characters imaginable, and make the male characters the most appealing part of the show 💀
As a woman myself, I can say that these male characters written like this by other women feels like the same level of inaccurate cringe as teen female characters written by 40 year old men
@@scienceteam9254 This is true; the women I have locked in my basement can confirm that whenever they try to access an online network, the device just sizzles and burn in front of their faces.
The animation does not suck even though the style is not my cup of tea, the rest is just bad, I wonder if a rewrite dub and I mean a Ghost Stories-level of departure from the original source could actually make this something bearable.
I’ve noticed a trend in modern fiction of having racists, sexists, etc. be very exaggerated to the point of being completely unbelievable. A lot of writers don’t bother to show subtle forms of discrimination because they don’t have the ability and don’t want to make the attempt to cultivate it, they think, “Audiences are too stupid to understand subtle discrimination, so I’d better make it as blatant as possible!” or both. When I heard Disney was making a Mulan remake, I noted, “I’m afraid they’ll make the sexism really blatant because they’ll think, ‘How else are people supposed to know when characters are being sexist?’” (It turned out that was the least of my concerns, but it was still a valid concern)
That was already the case in mulan, or do you think the line “she’s a woman! She’ll never be worth anything” was subtle discrimination? Granted I think these live action “adult” remakes are completely unnecessary
@@vondas1480 I mean yeah, Mulan is literally set in historical China. That said it still wasn’t as heavy handed as the remake. For example the scenes with her dad following her botched marriage interview. In the animated they also chose to hing at Mulan’s intelligence throughout the beginning and naturally bring it back as she made up for her lack of physique and lack of military training with it. Whereas in the remake she’s just kinda better than everyone at everything all the time. The remake also really strained her relationship with her father to focus first on the clash between her taking his place before establishing that in most normal circumstances he supported her without caring about her role “as a woman” in society and just wanted her to be happy and had faith she’d achieve that in life no matter what. They’re both definitely mot subtle about it, but one incorporates it far better into weaving an interesting story with characters you care about. The one just centers everything around it and doesn’t realize it’s undermining the very point it thinks its making.
I heard somewhere (tho do fact check if I'm wrong) that the characters weren't voiced by voice actors but by phisical actors (like in movies and such). And to top the fact that they didn't have experience in acting just with their voice they also didn't have a director
Ngl it doesn't even feel like a "Toxic Male" insult. Like, yeah, the "She's just a regular girl but she's REALLY good at this" is kinda demeaning (See the Knuckles Boom quote) but it's an attempt. The hostile reaction honestly should have been a "Yeah, she good, but her gender doesn't matter, she's talented." He even CORRECTS THE NICKNAME HE GAVE. Plus, the last line feels like a really-badly placed joke, but that's probably a voice acting casualty. And when he calls Rosemary "Stuck up", he's actually not wrong. He gave a shit compliment, but he seems to be trying. And, the final nail in the coffin, NOBODY TALKS LIKE THIS.
They weren't even able to complain about misoginia, and it ended up making the guy look like the good one. My god, this is the only scene i watched from this show and its terrible.
He literally sounds like a socially awkward guy trying to compliment her and making a dumb joke, but everyone is acting like he's creeping on her... they're reactions are almost completely unrelated to what's happening
“anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo.” - A certain genius Echidna
So basically: Bully: Wow Mary Sue self insert you were actually pretty cool. Mary Sue: I reject this kindness because I am Queen and your wording was subpar. You should learn to be better with words like me. I'm a great writer. Then the teacher took Bully in for detention and everyone clapped. Why does this scene play out like every bad fanfic I have ever read?
You missed the: *character smiles while holding back tears* “well I’m so sorry that my family is p o o r, and my dog has c a n c e r, but at least I have morals unlike you-“ proceeds to rant for ten minutes then everyone’s “shocked” bc this character is “such a nice person” as they storm off
You know As someone who’s writing a book and hoping someday enough people care about it to get a whole show This cheers me up, because even if it’s bad, it can’t be *THAT* bad.
I'm the same! currently planning and making all the ideas to start the book smoothly so i don't have that much mistakes and it gets considered "good". not like this show bruh, this is exactly the thing i am trying to evade 😎
I feel like hgs was a confidence booster to aspiring creators who have actual talent but are kinda nervous about putting it out there. I don’t think that’s what crunchyroll intended, but that’s what happened
Hold on, I can explain this scene just fine. Aster starts the clip sincere, praising his crush. Then, he is told to take it back a notch. He does this through making a joke. His joke is producing an overly dramatic speech about his recent loss. But not realising that he should probably stop praising Rosemary, he leads the joke straight into continuing the praise, although in a less aggressive manner. This all characterises him as someone who: -Is passionate for what he loves (Hence the praise, and hence why he is impossible to derail from it) -Is socially blind (Since he clearly can't read the room) -Is not bothered by trivial failure (Since he jokes about a recent loss) -Is somewhat intelligent (Since he can come up with a joke in about a second) -Tries being considerate (Since he does reduce the intensity of the praise, even if he doesn't stop) Then the writers realise that "softboy with Asperger's" is too likeable and turn him into a stuck-up prick, thereby destroying 4 of the 5 traits established in the same scene.
I couldn't tell without the context of seeing more of the show if he was antagonistic towards her and was being sarcastic or if he fancied the pants off her and was managing to make a complete fool of himself while trying to praise her. But yeah acting like he did something seriously wrong by doing so was a bit weird. No blood was spilled. Not if the adult then followed that up with a conversation about how to speak to someone you are crushing on without antagonising them - that might be helpful - but I suspect a show like this isn't going to take the show's spotlight away from the protagonist to show such a conversation or even admit to his motivations and if they are positive or negative - they might not even care - they instead only care about how she feels about what he says not what he intended to say be it good or bad.
Yes Yes everything you just said was what I was thinking. I just couldn't put it into words but yeah they aren't establishing this character like what a human would act.
The change in tone and mood did not make sense here at all. They never tried to have him establish any reasoning of why he started acting like a stuck up prick. No asking of questions or trying to understand each other.
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 you know how in most old Pokemon games, there are two different titles? If we already have Pokemon Clover, would the second title be Pokemon Drinkware, since you can't call it Pokemon Tumblr?
These line reads don't sound like they were from the same conversation. It almost sounds like the showrunners used sentence mixing to splice together a scene.
The entire point of the show is to be one of those '21st Century Moral Definitions' like Steven Universe where it's just all about social issues that have literally no weight when compared to actual contemporary world events and problems.
"wow son! We need to have a word" *Takes him inside Black dude: So you're forced to say bad lines too? Blonde guy: *nods and starts sobbing* Black guy: (hug) it's okay man, I'm here for you *Edit* Thanks this is the most likes I've ever gotten on a comment
All the voice cast of HGS Just deserve this tbh Imagine having the possibility to be in the First "ANIME CREATED BY CRUNCYROLL" and you are dealth with "but but ... I know the Triade wants to clone you because you are super good but i won't let them meeeee" or something like that Like ... I pity them
UPDATE: i told my brother what was happening and he doesn't even like Anime and he's decided that since the title has "High" and "Spice" in it the writers are on drugs so....
The last part (Wow, son, we need to have a word) has such meme material potential, mostly because of how ridiculously hilarious it sounds. Like, the way the actor says it is pure gold
I like how uncreative aster’s “toxic masculinity” is. It’s so incredibly basic. What a one-note, token, stereotype character. Gotta have him be white, blonde haired, and blue eyed too. What revolutionary ground the writers are exploring here. It’s funny seeing them try to make cultural statements while simultaneously revealing their own prejudices.
@@JonkoSlunko What. I'm saying toxic masculinity was really portrayed well through him before he had his whole arc. He was sexist and had a skewed idea of what it meant to be a man. But it was never malicious and he genuinely cared about people.
@@Nana-wi4gi I see what you mean. He saw women as damsels and that he NEEDED to be strong to be a man, and not for an ego type of way but to prove himself as a person
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How the fuck does this have so many likes
IDK bro u famous, congrats!
@@webizaoescaldao9096 show me dude
@@YanoLBP Idk bro, I just happened to cross this vid.
Thank the algorithm
because big funny
Fans to CrunchyRoll: “Wow, son, we need to have a word….”
There are still fans?
Wait cringeyroll has fan?
@@notimportant1659 Good point. More like, “users stuck with no other alternatives.”
Lol
Haha lol yeah
“Son we need to have a word”
“This is a girl’s school. We sent you here as a joke.”
lmao
I’m sorry, but his voice when saying we need to have a word is killing me
I love how I read this in darth Vader’s voice with your profile pic it this time of 2021
was so hard for him just to say "young man, we need to talk"?,
besides what kind of teacher say something like that?
@@tsubasasupremo One who’s written by a chick who thinks African Americans still talk like the 70s, ya dig?
"How you doin' fellow humans?": The animated series.
I was literally thinking what you posted
And now we are watching, Human Cartoons.
Seriously the type of AI a script would write
"Human fellas?"
@@EyesWillRule Leave human Rayla out of this.
When you try to write a Misogynistic Character but your only influence is that one clueless guy who misspelled your name on your Starbuck cup in California
Now this😂😂😂😂i actually laughed at
So oddly specific, yet accurate.
@@plagueday5395 I know its oddly specific but its the truth, these people probably never leave LA
Never happened to me, and I've lived in LA, my entire life. I wouldn't write someone this terrible, because I've genuinely seen terrible men, and women that womanize, misogynistic tendencies, and r@p3 women on the daily basis. These show writers are just terrible writers.
@@TermiHorsecity My condolences and prayers
I almost expected him to say "IM SO HUNGRY, I COULD EAT AN OCTOROCK. I JUST WONDER WHAT GANNONS UP TO"
At least that would have been funny
That would have been an improvement, lets be real
@@Enclavefakesoldier Oh totally
Even both of those games have better dialogues than this shit
That game is legendary and should not be associated with this
"Son, we need to have a word."
"This is a portal to a different series. don't know how good it is, but it's gotta be better than this--go! There's no time, save yourself!"
This is how albedo came to the world of tevyat
The good ending
@@spiritpyros albedo's past is more tragic than we knew
And then the blond guy turn into parsee
I was thinking more for him being his dad that dude's pretty white
“Wow son we need to have a word”
WAS THE ‘WOW’ PART REALLY NEEDED!? I can’t…
Unbased should've said wowie zowie
_Waow_
this show would be so much better if everyone just said wowie zowie all the time
@@abyssalnothingness zoo wee mama!
“Whoa there, kiddo. We need to rap for a minute about your ‘tude. ...I’m a cool writer! Please think I’m cool, we’ve all been on Tumblr most of our lives and the only man I know is my creepy uncle who visits on Thanksgiving! Please like us!”
“Huh, should’ve known you were stuck up.”
In contrast with the rest of the scene, this one line delivery sounded pretty good. Not the actual line in context or anything, just the voice actor’s performance. Something decent is so out of place I woke up for a second.
It does sort of feel like a more natural response.
@@Aevum13th In comparison to the "sexist/discriminatory" lines that were so bland I thought, "Wow, he's pretty horrible with names... and the comment of cute must be pretty unintentional cause of how awkward he seeems". Like, I didn't realize he was supposed to be... a character that wasn't just awkward and bored. And forgetful (or obsessed with rutabaga, the vegetable)
It was the only line the voice actor actually agreed with
“Ahh… ehhh- nyahhh…”
Plot twist, it wasn't in the script, he just said it to the script writers and the animators kept it in
I legitimately cannot comprehend what just happened.
like seriously, shes mad for getting complements.
Same
A writer's self-insert character had an argument with a strawman of a male
@@tebogotwala5185 yeah like if she didn’t like receive compliments, she could change topic🤷🏻♀️
@@tebogotwala5185 she’s an independent female who needs no complements from a man.
I like to think the “Wow!” wasn’t in the script, it was just the actor’s reaction to what he’s about to read for a paycheck.
“Wow!(What has my life become?) Son, we need to have a word.”
It’s like there’s entire sections of dialogue missing that they forgot to capture and had hastily to string the ones they caught together into disjointed sentences.
But the editors were too lazy so they left it in anyways.
@@karatebat5156 Exactly
Son, we need to talk
Question is, did the person who spoke that line get paid? Or did he had to do it for free?
This has such *"AND THEN EVERYBODY CLAPPED"* energy...
You havent even seen the whole scene, it gets even more "and then everyone clapped" from there on
And there was Obama
IT'S LITERALLY LIKE A TUMBLR POST- I JUST
And there was much rejoicing (yay)
*"EVERYONE CLAPPED, YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN IT, EVERYONE CLAPPED, YOU COULD'VE BELIEVE IT."*
I got an ad for a suicide hotline before this
It's a sign
And people say TH-cam’s ads are a problem
Definitely needed
precaution
I need one after this
Teacher: "Son, we need to have a word."
"If you're going to throw insults at the newbie, you need to loosen up. Don't deliver your taunting so stalely. And be sure to *really* dig deep into them. I want to see tears next time you dish it out."
Aster: "Thanks for the advice, teach. I won't let you down."
Ha ha now that’s some good criticism.
Good Ending
How does this comment have better dialogue than the entirety of the show?
“Excellent Advanced Rudery, Hiccup! We’ll make a Viking out of you yet!”
-Gobber the Belch
"Motivate the protagonist into being a true rival rather than delivering your lines like you're being underpaid!"
"Son we need to have a word."
Theres no way a line THIS FUCKING SIMPLE can still be delivered so horribly.
And yet it was.
you forgot the "WOW" before it.
It reminded me of the one kid from Bojacks acting class in Bojack s6 that always acted with an old man voice lol
THE WOW WAS NOT NECESSARY 💀
He said "waow, son, we need to have a word"
“Should’ve known you were stuck up” said the world to the writers.
It was also the only line that was delivered pretty good
🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙 🤙 🤙
“Should’ve known you were stuck-up” sounds like it was just the actor caught on a hot mic but the writers were just too stupid to realize that he was insulting them and not ad-libbing a line 😂
💀 I would have had a few choice words that were a lot worse than “stuck-up”.
Funny how they wrote the show to try and make you hate Aster, yet he's more likable than most of the characters
He's a manly looking man, of course he's the bad guy. Only women and transgenders are allowed to be put in a positive light.
are you talking about the baby faced man with a ponytail?
@@animegirl7881
That's the name of the character yeah
@@animegirl7881 Every man is babyfaced because the writers hate masculinity
@@animegirl7881 He's literally just Link but he talks
For a company whose existence is based around the anime industry, this doesn’t even remotely feel like an anime.
This honestly feels like that time Jaden Smith and some Hollywood dipshits made their own "anime", but it was just cheap animation and cringey dialogue. This is that, but instead of Hollywood elitism, we get woke shit
Its just steven universe but no story whatsoever
@@tabithaalphess2115 at least neo yokio was amusing
@@saturn6458 For about half of episode 2. And not even on purpose. The rest is just Hollywood pricks unaware that they're snobby pricks
Their existence is based around pillaging the industry. They've worked to destroy the indie subbing scene and pumped yet more poison into the industry in the form of guidance so that a unique cultural expression starts to become like everything else because Americans can't deal with anything they don't understand or that could make them uncomfortable. On top of all that, they don't even pay the studios they license content off of well.
"I too write human dialogue for humans. Now lets go fellow humans, let us go partake the engorging of beef by products with weeds, and milk based frozen drink."
lmfao
Shit had me dying
Written by Mark Zuckmanuts
But I love it. It would actually be hilarious for an alien character trying to fit in with humans. You know, one that thinks they're amazing at it.
"I was just playing video games with my friends Johnathan, Fred, Anglus, Sexioss 18-6, and *screech*-- I- I mean Phil."
The escalation of this scene is so damn weird. First you get Rosemary's weird groaning line, then you get Aster's response about her being stuck-up which, contextually, seems to have no easing into it. And then Rosemary growls? And the way the professor abruptly steps in? It's so unnatural. The pacing of their conversation and emotions is all off.
Honestly, I thought maybe it was because of the lack of context.
@@blueflare3848 context couldn't fix the pacing here 😭
@@Deadflower019
It could actually, if they made it so that it was all just acting for a theater story.
That way, this whole cringe stuff wouldn't be cringe anymore because it's just all acting.
@@MirrorOfEmotions High guardian spice was all a fever dream
@@MirrorOfEmotionsSo like the stage play episode of Spectacular Spider-Man? Yeah, I could see that working.
C'mon guys, this character is trying really hard to sound like a human being, give him some credit!
Okay, I will give him a little credit for trying, but he failed miserably.
Wait, that was a guy?
Am I wrong to think that literally evey character in the show fails at that?
@@GT-wj3gl Nope, you're not wrong. Though he was the worst in that clip.
I feel like the whole cast is trying to sound like a human being. Key word: trying
Wow son, we need to have a word. You're terrible at insulting people you need to step up your game.
Wow thanks Teach, I will
wait that was supposed to be an insult?
@@solarflames7721 I thought it was supposed to be the feminist cliche of the guy trying to hit on the girl only when she rejects his advances he gets mad and calls her a B!txh. She kinda is though
wait that was meant to be an insult?
I don't know at which point I was suppose to feel offended
The teacher coming in was literally "And they all stood up and clapped" tier
Deadass, this feels like that one Gillette commercial from 2019.
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“Son, we need to have a word” -🤖
Don't forget the WOW!!!
🤙 Determinism is Freedom 🤙
my favorite “misogynistic” character ever written has to be sokka from avatar the last airbender. he’s naturally written, and his progression makes sense. this dude feels so inorganic tho.
Sokka grew up in a society with highly enforced gender roles. He had been raised to believe that men best served the role of warrior/breadwinner while women were better at housekeeping. When he explored new cultures and found indisputably that this was not true, he apologized and humbled himself.
It was such a simple, honest part of his character progression compared to this abomination
Yeah Suki, quite literally, kicked the sense into Sokka.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 gave him that respect women juice
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 Sometimes all a guy needs is a warrior, muscle-girlfriend who can, will, and has beat the absolute shit out of them.
@@meanyapickles wasn't that a major plot point for him with that group of non bending warrior women from the earth nation?
My dream as a young artist was to make my own manga/ or comic and potential get a show. Seeing this, really boosted my confidence. If they can put this and the anime adaptation of berserk, I know that they will put anything on there.
Yeah but then you realize it’s not the show itself they liked, they just wanted a show that’s progressive and woke by a team of woman so they can score some points with the wokes on Twitter.
@@legalza0843 that's easy to get past actually, they didn't even actually develop the trans character, proving that they don't even care about the minorities, they only want bonus points and big companies will buy anything if you say you got what the teens want, just put on a character that screams 'I WAS A DUDE BEFORE!' even couple of episodes and you're good, the reviewers won't even bother checking cuz they don't really care either, they also just want any kind of show that has diverse people to say "look at us teens, we support minorities, you can keep giving us money **clown nose noises** "
just make whatever plot you want, don't matter how shitty, generic, or badly developed it is anyways, make the main character's only personality trait being: gay (since apparently, homosexuality isn't a preference but yes a character definition), and then send to Netflix or Crunchyroll, it will probably get animated
Wait what’s wrong with the beserk show?
@@InTheEnd75 berserk 2016 and 2017, on top of being horribly animated , SOMEHOW, managed to ruin the story of the manga by cutting out massive portions of the story or changing important dialogue
Honestly, this show is a boost of confidence to any creator. If something like this could not only enter into full production but SOMEHOW also see the light of day
Then anyone with any creativity or vision for a personal project has a good shot as well
Are we gonna just gloss over how she responded with “Eh. Uh… naaaa.”
That is literally the least natural response she could’ve given.
It came off as perfectly natural sarcasm to me, but maybe I'm just weird
I personally wouldn't respond like that, but it did feel natural and I've seen similar responses before. on top of that it had Flavor(TM) that they could've built on instead of mixing it into the stew of 23+ ideas where there should've be one. i think that the issue is that they had "bits" of concepts but then didn't build on or space them out.
That's me when I know the basic concept of what I want to say, but not the actual words to convey it.
to be honest I think rosemary would've been a bit bolder with her response, but I guess it kinda works??? dunno
And the most uninspired line.
People are angry at the wow son part, I'm triggered seeing how that sword disappears in 0:12
His ∆$s swallowed
Nah, he just put it in his hair😂
Every dude in these types of shows are either "Toxic male" or "Raging white knight" THERE IS NO IN BETWEEN
Or incredibly stupid an weak
That’s what happens when this show is written all by toxic femenists.
Both are pathetic
Most voice actors and writers are feminists so it makes sense.
I mean, what else did you expect if their "diverse" production/writer Team are made up mostly by toxic feminists who hate men.
why does aster get the best voice actor? that "should've known you were stuck up" was really good
Rewatched the clip to see what you meant and yeah- he seems like a solid va who was just really poorly directed at times.
On a rewatch yeah, that line was delivered so well
It sounds weirdly cute
@@pikapower_kirby Yeah, VAs only do good when you give them clear instructions, just like artists, and clearly this anime didn't do that in any sense.
@@asdgreersf
>anime
"Should've known you were Stuck up"
This is the most naturally delivered line in the entire show 😂
funny that you mention, it sounds like something i can see myself saying...
Aster's VA was the best one, i found myself kinda liking him just because his voice didn't grate my ears.
Dude- i read this in the exact moment he said it
Lmao he went off script and aimed this at the writing team 🤣
@@UnderscoreKikimothat “son we need to have a word!” Was dreadful
"Wow. Son. We need to have a word."
-A Human Person
Or Baron von Horrible Voice Actor.
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“Hello fellow tweens! (smirks) My name is CHAD MANspread and I think girl = weak. I guess Rubicon here proved me wrong. Just this once though. I’m also a misogynist. Could you tell?”
Every girl in this series when a male character speaks: th-cam.com/video/PKwI2zZXiRE/w-d-xo.html
The writers have never actually seen a dude, much less talked to one.
The quality of writing that only a 100% female writers room could produce
@Ale Mar They advertised their own show by touting their "100% female" writer's room in 2018 and are now getting it rubbed in their faces. No footage, no audio, just 'diversity'. Let High Guardian Spice stand as a cautionary tale against affirmative action hiring.
@@beheritman It isn't just that they were all women, it's that they were all woke feminazis who spent a good portion of their time ranting about how men are all terrible and should die on social media.
@Jack Roosevelt Jack gets it. When rubbing 'Our show is better because wamminz' back in their faces, don't pause to give them re-assurances of "Don't worry, not all, not all! Someone women are wonderful! Pretty please don't call me sexist!"
@Ale Mar bad is bad.
If I don't like something, TO ME that is bad.
If I go in a restaurant and Gordon Ramsey himself cooks my dinner and I don’t like it, then my dinner was bad.
If Elton John himself comes to my birthday to sing "Happy birthday to you" live and he doesn’t sing well, to me that song is bad.
If a bunch of animators fail to represent the most basic human movement or fails to write believable dialogue or utterly fail at mixing in such a way that the background music covers the dialogue or causes a character (Slime Boy) to sound like the VA was half asleep or drunk...the show *TO ME* is bad.
Enough free passes, male/female/trans/asexual/polysexual/homosexual/lesbian/LGBTQUFDGDHTGHDYIIGDSDGHUY2565VR5366576$#@!+#/&_€$× is not an excuse to offer a subpar product.
I assure you that 90% of the "haters" would have admitted of having been wrong IF the show was actually good.
I would have.
As it is, this is at best a 6/10 show on my scale.
Sexism, misogyny or whatever else has nothing to do with it.
I want quality in my entertainment, then the character can fuck/get fucked how they want, I don't care about that.
Tell me you have no idea how to write male characters without telling me you have no idea how to write male characters.
This is legitimately how they view all men as.
To them, this IS perfection.
This is why, and no I will never call the show and anime, but I've heard a lot of sjw's talk about support female anime writers blah blah blah but to be honest with you, as someone who calls myself a feminist and an otaku, the most feminist anime I've watched and manga I've read were written by men, ironically, the stuff written by women, we're actually quite condescending towards women. It's almost like they had internalized misogyny or something. They hyper focused way too much on a roll of a woman and basically a lot of female tropes that just need to die off for goodness sakes, and I have to say, in comparison, evangelion is a whole heck of a lot more politically correct than this show by a long shot. It shows a humanized, non-toxic masculine male character, and authentic representation of a boy with actual complicated emotions who cries, and isn't a stereotype in any direction, and deals with the very real problem of daddy issues. It is vent art, and to be honest with you, while I love the basis of the plot, I really struggle to watch evangelion, just simply because especially if someone who's been sexually assaulted before, I just can't watch the poor thing go through several seasons of episodes living with a woman who's literally grooming him. If you don't know what I'm talking about, note like the first scene, where he has a photograph of the woman who's supposed to pick him up, and literally, misato has a photograph of her with handwritten notes on it pointing out her cleavage and everything, it was so disturbing. I've really feel bad for the poor kid, I know he's fictional, but that's why I can't watch it, I just feel too bad for him and I will always cringe at the female characters in that anime, I'm guessing it was reflective of something the creator of it went through, I'm assuming also how he sexualizes shinji's sexual abusers, I kind of wondered if the guy was maybe groomed by women growing up?? I don't know it seems very likely to me, either way, I feel really bad for both the writer as well as the fictional character he wrote that goes through all kinds of horrendous things. Either way though, evangelion has much better social representation than this show ever will
Edit: I was using voice to text, and how I said anime made Google think I said enemy
They don’t know how to write female character either
Nah fam they don't know how to write at all
This is the type of conversation I’d make if I’m playing with my figurines
This is the kind of conversation I'd have in a dream
This is the animated equivalent of a shower argument
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@@DeterminismisFreedom well said
@@Kimmie268-f7x do you know what Determinism is?
He doesn't even seem misogynistic, he just constantly puts his foot in his mouth around very hostile people.
That's legit enough for these sort of people to call someone a misogynist
He just seems confused.
John 3:16
Romans 10:9
John 3:3
Matthew 7:21
John 14:6
That's probably what he would be in a normal piece of fiction where the writers knew how to make characters.
@@pu2f551 As a Christian, what’s with the Bible quotes?
So to sum up this scene:
Some guy makes an announcement to a the team that girls are hot
Girl gets offended.
He calls the girl stuck up.
The captain acts like he was just caught doing drugs behind the bleachers.
This show must be how aliens think humans interact.
The guy: I've come to make an announcement
@@guardraillovah7753 Yes I'm very human, I like walking with my leg and breathing air, now I'll do the human mating call
This scene happens:
Of course the dude who was about to reprimand him had to be darker-skinned. Take that, chauvinistic white men!
Seeing this show is like the times I’ve drank too much. In those times I drank enough to understand whats going on, but it doesn’t click right in my head, and I feel so disconnected from whatever I’m watching.
Well it was fully produced by SJWs, so it's not like any actual humans had any part in it
This show deserves the Ghost Stories dub treatment if that’s the quality of the voice acting for it.
DUDE, it needs to happen
@@Cometstarlight I doubt any youtube channel would want to do an abridged of this series, but hey, we can dream alright?
@@saulesalejos4483 oh I’m sure there’s plenty of people who would love to riff on it, but yeah, it’s pretty janky to have to stare at for long periods of time
@@saulesalejos4483 oh man I'd LOVE to voice act in an abridged series of this. It would be fucking hilarious (and probably better than this)
@@saulesalejos4483 It’s shitty shows like this that need to be abridged the most, cause it’s the only way to make them fun: by ripping the hell out of ‘em XD
"Wow, son, we need to have a word." Was exactly what I was thinking of saying to the writer when I watched this.
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I’m gonna take a wild guess and say NONE of the writers have ever met or heard an actual sexist person talk lmaooo
You don't think the writers talk with eachother?
Based on other clips I've seen, I'm not sure these writers have ever heard anyone talk.
@Aaaagh Door Im sorry for the way they treated your kind
Edit: Bc some ppl can't tell, yes this is a joke.
They looked at one post from r/niceguys and put it in an AI
I concur
The writers really thought they could use AI generated script and thought we wouldn't notice
The AI does better when curated properly.
This does neither.
@@a-s-greig wait, it's AI? Dammit.
@@algordo1997 no, I'm saying AI probably should've been used at least as a consultation tool.
This flop was 100% human.
@Andrew S. Greig oh thank God. I honestly don't support ai art myself. There's just not any feeling. You dont see the artist' touch.
@@algordo1997 Again... **gestures to High Guardian Spice**
Show me where an artist touched this?
I write *FANFICS* with more natural dialogues than this script.
Ive *read* fanfics written by 12 year olds in 2001 with dialogue *leagues* better than this, my god.
If I ever write anything with dialogue even nearly as bad as this please put a bullet between my eyes. I would rather die then watch my writing become as bad as this.
Yo what’s your FF or A3O??? I love reading and I’ll leave a review :D
Mind sharing your AO3, FF, or Wattpad account? I would love to read your fanfics :D
I've heard *3 YEAR OLDS* have better diaologues than this
"How do you do other featherless bipeds?"
Dammit Diógenes, not again-!!!
"I'm pretty good" replies the plucked chicken
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“Girls are cute climbing walls”
This Chad deserve his own show
Based
This guy might FR be the best character in the whole show.
that line is confusingly specific.
Genshin Impact player spotted
This line is better then half of the show
The crew was so *proud* of writing his dialogue!
*Random throws a chair at a wall*
I like chairs.
Lol how could you seriously have optimism with this?
@@artistanthony1007 Oh you will be surprised
@@videosalpaso5323 Actually not really surprising since I've seen people really that easily deceived but I still was wondering why if HGS is talked about by so many people.
*randomly
0:25 This part straight up sounds like a kid trying to win an argument in the most badass way possible
"I can't think of anything worth saying, so I'll just make awkward noises to convey a vague disapproval."
It looks like a 2D cut out on a 3D background and I hate it.
@@Ozzy08018 hey if it works for gumball it works for this, what is artistic direction anyway
@@RusticRonnie Not if the show is this bad
And then the dude just shuts her down 🤣
That progressed so fast in the most uncomfortable way possible i literally did not process anything that was said
"It's been fun Aster, but... uegh- egh- nyeahn."girl wtf 💀
@@sawyeridk-ih5wvimmediately after i always knew you were stuck up😈😈😈😈😈😈”
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@@DeterminismisFreedom quit spamming "determination is freedom!"
@@Kimmie268-f7x are you going to do that for me?
Man, Albedo's really changed after destroying Mondstadt.
LMFAO
He's preparing for his next banner
hol up
DON'T DO MY LITERAL BF DIDRTYYYYYYY
Thought process went:
= VA? → Ah, wait.... → Appearance
You know why this guy has wheat-coloured hair?
Because he's a literal Strawman.
0:04
This is actually an Intelligent comment.
@Александар Миловић indeed. This is like Light Yagami level punnery. I know "punnery" isn't an actual word, but whatever.
"uh..uh....nyaaah" so thought provoking.. so innovative.. someone get them an award for such miraculous writing and execution!!!
Someone bring the Oscar awards
Top quality scripts
If ever there were a case for execution, I’m not sure this is it. Maybe.
It certainly challenged my thoughts...
it look significantly stranger when typed out.
"it's been fun, aster, but ... nyea..ah.."
"huh, should've known you were stuck up" WHAT?>?? WHAT?? HOW DOES THIS CONVO MAKE SENSE
Writers ruined the show with their goofy ahh messed up personalities putting their own ideas into the show
It feels like the women who wrote this last had a conversation with a guy in kindergarten and never grew out of the "boys are icky" phase
The writing staff and actors are definitely stuck at 5yrs. emotionally.
Tbh, I'm pretty sure most 5 year olds would have written a better script.
she still believes in cooties.
@@kingdragonheart222 I know his older brother helped him do it but I'm counting Axe Cop in that list of better scripts. :p
@@ChronosX69 The older brother just did the illustrations. Script was all younger brother
It's not as powerful as "People die when they are killed." They need some new writers.
That was a good line when in the original context
Fate stay night even with h scenes is better with women writing than this lol
"I know how to please a man"
*smashes table*
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 “I love a woman who can kick my ass”
@@PikachuLittle “I love a woman who will literally just kill me.”
The Archer class are really made out of archers
The out if context black guy walking up to him and saying "son we need to have a word" is just so funny because he just comes out of nowhere like drip goku
THE FUCKINH “wow son we need to have a word” AND THEN THE CUTOFF IS SO FUCKING FUNNY TO ME I HAVE BEEN GIGGLING AT IT FOR 30 MINUTES AND HIS VOICE IS SO BAD
LITERALLY I'VE BEEN OBSESSED WITH THIS CLIP FOR A YEAR
The women who wrote this have never held a real conversation with a real human male in their entire lives.
Edit: Watching this comment blow up over the last two days was pretty fun. Thanks guys and gals (:
I mean yeah weve seen them and their twitter accounts
they constantly hashtag kill all Men
A combo of their Twitter and make Real Medusa look like Fate Medusa...
Spent too much time hating on men instead of actually interacting with them.
have you seen their twitter account and what they posted?
@@anasbakhit4303 Yeah it's in the video. I was just struck with the realization that these women (and trans men I guess) are basically the inverse of the stereotype of the nerdy socially inept dude that never talks to girls. It made me realize that getting no attention from the opposite sex is just as unhealthy for women as it is for men.
Here’s the thing. This actor is giving a 10/10 performance on 0/10 straw man material and I think that is admirable and sad all at once
I'd like to hear his voice actor in a different, but better show.
It sucks when the few talented people drown along with the rest of the ship just because the alcoholic captain thought the iceberg would move out the way if they screamed at it loud enough.
A better person than me. I would've intentionally read my lines as awful as I could.
TF2 Medic: "My skills are VASTED on this team!"
He's Junpei in the zero escape series where he's fantastic especially in the first game
“Wow, son, we need to have a word.”
That delivery cracks me up.
SAME it actually made me laugh 😭
this whole scene feels like a meme where the original audio was replaced by a podcast or something
I’m surprised everyone didn’t start clapping after the teacher said
“Wow. Son, We need to have a word”
I've honestly seen better writing in fanfiction.
I got crapot ideas like FGO but the Van der Linde Gang and Desperado from MGR are summonable and it's sorta self insert
And I got Autism and ADHD and I think it is better then this shrahk...
This show is an extremely low bar to beat, though.
@@John-Stark Hey, the winds of destruction are all incredibly badass! Yes, even Khamshin!
an nursery rhyme book would beat this garbage
@@DonVigaDeFierro no it's more if I can do them right that I am worried about, Sundowner's the easiest, Sam I might have a little trouble with, Memesoon, Kham and Mistral will be hard and I am REALLY worried about fucking up the greatest politician ever
The Netflix adaptation is going to be hilarious.
I thought this was the Netflix adaptation.
Considering this is a "CrunchyRoll Original Series" I HIGHLY doubt that this is getting a Netflix adaptation. Also consider who made this series and how it was made.
@@videosalpaso5323 Nah, this was an adaptation of the Netflix adaptation
Wow that's brutal, this is already a dumpster fire I can only imagine what Netflix would do to it
@@keldon_champion If anything, a live action adaptation might actually improve it. It's already at rock bottom, only one way to go.
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It's funny how the writer's of this show say that men can't write good female characters, yet somehow they managed to not only write the worst female characters imaginable, and make the male characters the most appealing part of the show 💀
Meanwhile much better shows with women are written by Men & Women! Really, the difference is talent in writing.
Ironic at Peak :)
Lmao , Slime boy feels like my Mindvoice but slightly bad
because i am clumsy man
sorry :(
Huge coincidence
When they’re only hired for their gender and not for their talent
for real like i can tell this guy is intended to be annoying or bad but all this clip has done has given me an interest in his character
As a woman myself, I can say that these male characters written like this by other women feels like the same level of inaccurate cringe as teen female characters written by 40 year old men
Don't be like that bro. We all know women don't exist on the internet.
@@scienceteam9254 What year are you from, 2008? Where have you been?
@@ayaneagano6059 i've been to the science team's research facility and have concluded that women in fact do not exist online.
@@scienceteam9254 This is true; the women I have locked in my basement can confirm that whenever they try to access an online network, the device just sizzles and burn in front of their faces.
@@ayaneagano6059 it's a joke
But let's be real, there are no children on the internet, only fbi agents
This is making me cry. This is exactly like the old times of eng dubs when they fucked the translation up so bad it felt like an ai wrote the script.
To be fair. AI these days can probably write better dialog than this dumpster fire
Sailor moon dub is peak.
MAJOR BUMSVILLE
Luckily they are trying hard to translate it for people who got no time to watch sub or other issues with sub.
“WOW son we need to have a word”
The delivery is so bad to the point where it’s actually hilarious
This felt like a 1st draft instead of the final script. How many years have they’ve been in production?
They said it was supposed to be released in 2019
Here we are 2 years later
What happened in between then?
Who knows
@@halodragonmaster Whoever does dialogue has clearly never been near another human before
@@PaintSplashProductions not for about a good 20 years.
Oh come on, respect the all women's writer's roo-
-Ohhhh that's the problem.
@@Ruldolphmaker It feels they were surrounded by 'Yes men'
The animation does not suck even though the style is not my cup of tea, the rest is just bad, I wonder if a rewrite dub and I mean a Ghost Stories-level of departure from the original source could actually make this something bearable.
I would watch that.
Abridgers could probably make this 100x more enjoyable
SAO vs SAO Abridged will do this series justice
I want the violet one to be a screaming racist
Yeah the animation is ok. And if there were plushies, they would be really cute.
I’ve noticed a trend in modern fiction of having racists, sexists, etc. be very exaggerated to the point of being completely unbelievable. A lot of writers don’t bother to show subtle forms of discrimination because they don’t have the ability and don’t want to make the attempt to cultivate it, they think, “Audiences are too stupid to understand subtle discrimination, so I’d better make it as blatant as possible!” or both. When I heard Disney was making a Mulan remake, I noted, “I’m afraid they’ll make the sexism really blatant because they’ll think, ‘How else are people supposed to know when characters are being sexist?’” (It turned out that was the least of my concerns, but it was still a valid concern)
Subtlety is a dead art form I’m afraid to say
Because they’re all just propaganda now. Pushing social political agendas to pretend that half the country secretly consists of super bigots.
@@benduford3746 that’s how they ruined spongebob
That was already the case in mulan, or do you think the line “she’s a woman! She’ll never be worth anything” was subtle discrimination? Granted I think these live action “adult” remakes are completely unnecessary
@@vondas1480 I mean yeah, Mulan is literally set in historical China. That said it still wasn’t as heavy handed as the remake. For example the scenes with her dad following her botched marriage interview. In the animated they also chose to hing at Mulan’s intelligence throughout the beginning and naturally bring it back as she made up for her lack of physique and lack of military training with it. Whereas in the remake she’s just kinda better than everyone at everything all the time. The remake also really strained her relationship with her father to focus first on the clash between her taking his place before establishing that in most normal circumstances he supported her without caring about her role “as a woman” in society and just wanted her to be happy and had faith she’d achieve that in life no matter what.
They’re both definitely mot subtle about it, but one incorporates it far better into weaving an interesting story with characters you care about. The one just centers everything around it and doesn’t realize it’s undermining the very point it thinks its making.
"It's been fun, aster, but aaugh-eaauughh~uaghh-ueh-nyeahh." GIRL JUST HAD A STROKE -
why tf do they speak like they are giving a presentation
Because they are stuck in game mode 6th grade
I heard somewhere (tho do fact check if I'm wrong) that the characters weren't voiced by voice actors but by phisical actors (like in movies and such). And to top the fact that they didn't have experience in acting just with their voice they also didn't have a director
grade school
Because they are giving a presentation. The script is entirely a preachy lecture.
Cuz they're bad voice actors lol
Ngl it doesn't even feel like a "Toxic Male" insult.
Like, yeah, the "She's just a regular girl but she's REALLY good at this" is kinda demeaning (See the Knuckles Boom quote) but it's an attempt. The hostile reaction honestly should have been a "Yeah, she good, but her gender doesn't matter, she's talented."
He even CORRECTS THE NICKNAME HE GAVE. Plus, the last line feels like a really-badly placed joke, but that's probably a voice acting casualty.
And when he calls Rosemary "Stuck up", he's actually not wrong. He gave a shit compliment, but he seems to be trying.
And, the final nail in the coffin, NOBODY TALKS LIKE THIS.
It doesn't even register as dialogue. It feels like parody.
They weren't even able to complain about misoginia, and it ended up making the guy look like the good one.
My god, this is the only scene i watched from this show and its terrible.
Forgot to mention they reused at least 1 shot I noticed. Like cmon.
Well the girls who wrote this show have probably never had a real life interaction with the opposite sex so who is surprised?
He literally sounds like a socially awkward guy trying to compliment her and making a dumb joke, but everyone is acting like he's creeping on her... they're reactions are almost completely unrelated to what's happening
“anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo.”
- A certain genius Echidna
God I love that line
Ahh yes, knock knock its knuckles
feminist knuckles
His words ring true because he finally found da way.
knuckles was based af
"Noo AI cannot replace our jobs!"
The job about to be replaced:
I feel like 9 seasons of AI generated High Guardian Spice would be better than the one we have now 😭
@@Deadflower019Because then it can just rip tropes and shit from actual anime instead of being a boring Cartoon Network reject
Can we make that “Wow son, we need to have a word” a meme please?
On the level of "Not cool mam, not cool"
it already is, the commercial gillette made
"Wow son, we need to have a word"
"Thots ain't worth your time."
I can see it. Flip the scene around lmao
So basically:
Bully: Wow Mary Sue self insert you were actually pretty cool.
Mary Sue: I reject this kindness because I am Queen and your wording was subpar. You should learn to be better with words like me. I'm a great writer.
Then the teacher took Bully in for detention and everyone clapped.
Why does this scene play out like every bad fanfic I have ever read?
Because it is a bad, poorly written fanfic that was only made because the 'creator' ticks the proper boxes on the diversity checklist?
You missed the: *character smiles while holding back tears* “well I’m so sorry that my family is p o o r, and my dog has c a n c e r, but at least I have morals unlike you-“ proceeds to rant for ten minutes then everyone’s “shocked” bc this character is “such a nice person” as they storm off
I write better fanfics than this pls--
I'd like to say; even bad fanfics often have more natural feeling dialogue.
@@scottgaultney wtf your pfp
Should this series be considered an insult to actual talented women writers?
Yes, and also to all writers.
Yes. And to anime. And tk all shows in general. It should be an insult to the use of language itself.
that's how i feel
Oh, most definitely.
yes without a doubt
The voicing makes it sound like an abridged series
All that’s left is for him to say, “well, excuuuuuuuuse me princess” and his character is complete.
Seriously though, he looks like knock off Link
or do the dubbed Zero.
So this is why Nintendo never lets Link talk, lol.
His name has to be Chain
Excuse me princess is at least comprehensible as sarcasm. This is indecipherable.
@@microwave8931 Or Locke
Not only does this guy have good opinions about girls climbing walls, but he also has a pocket dimension over his left shoulder: 0:13.
This looks familiar
Mmmmmhhhhh
With the sound effects, it almost sounds like he sliced his back open
His sword works as a spine
Bruh gta style
You know
As someone who’s writing a book and hoping someday enough people care about it to get a whole show
This cheers me up, because even if it’s bad, it can’t be *THAT* bad.
As an amateur writer, I feel the same thing :P
I can agree with this as I'm planning on making a game that hopefully gets to be an anime
I'm the same! currently planning and making all the ideas to start the book smoothly so i don't have that much mistakes and it gets considered "good". not like this show bruh, this is exactly the thing i am trying to evade 😎
I feel like hgs was a confidence booster to aspiring creators who have actual talent but are kinda nervous about putting it out there. I don’t think that’s what crunchyroll intended, but that’s what happened
Finally, someone put it on words.
Still somehow better writing than velma.
Mhm.
real
Oh nah don’t even get me STARTED on Velma. 😤
Was that a high bar to clear?
@@dotfoxtom5942 Nope lol. 🤣
Hold on, I can explain this scene just fine.
Aster starts the clip sincere, praising his crush. Then, he is told to take it back a notch. He does this through making a joke. His joke is producing an overly dramatic speech about his recent loss. But not realising that he should probably stop praising Rosemary, he leads the joke straight into continuing the praise, although in a less aggressive manner.
This all characterises him as someone who:
-Is passionate for what he loves (Hence the praise, and hence why he is impossible to derail from it)
-Is socially blind (Since he clearly can't read the room)
-Is not bothered by trivial failure (Since he jokes about a recent loss)
-Is somewhat intelligent (Since he can come up with a joke in about a second)
-Tries being considerate (Since he does reduce the intensity of the praise, even if he doesn't stop)
Then the writers realise that "softboy with Asperger's" is too likeable and turn him into a stuck-up prick, thereby destroying 4 of the 5 traits established in the same scene.
I couldn't tell without the context of seeing more of the show if he was antagonistic towards her and was being sarcastic or if he fancied the pants off her and was managing to make a complete fool of himself while trying to praise her. But yeah acting like he did something seriously wrong by doing so was a bit weird. No blood was spilled. Not if the adult then followed that up with a conversation about how to speak to someone you are crushing on without antagonising them - that might be helpful - but I suspect a show like this isn't going to take the show's spotlight away from the protagonist to show such a conversation or even admit to his motivations and if they are positive or negative - they might not even care - they instead only care about how she feels about what he says not what he intended to say be it good or bad.
And? Why does he have to be likeable?
Yes Yes everything you just said was what I was thinking. I just couldn't put it into words but yeah they aren't establishing this character like what a human would act.
The change in tone and mood did not make sense here at all. They never tried to have him establish any reasoning of why he started acting like a stuck up prick. No asking of questions or trying to understand each other.
@@ieatbatteries7 why can't he be likable?
It's like Tumblrina's shower arguments but they actually put it in the show.
I like how the show turned out to be precisely what all of its critics expected it to be
Oh god. Imagine a pokemon clover sequel with gym leaders like these?
Yeah
@@thedesensitizedsympathizer5307 you know how in most old Pokemon games, there are two different titles? If we already have Pokemon Clover, would the second title be Pokemon Drinkware, since you can't call it Pokemon Tumblr?
At this point, I’m sure even a bot could write better dialogue.
Bots writing stuff is already hilarious so
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 True
Dude I would recommend dugdug's battle royale video the story is a masterpeace made by bots
@@Alexanlite lol I just read the replies and saw another dougdoug reply.
ai dungeon already writes better stories
These line reads don't sound like they were from the same conversation. It almost sounds like the showrunners used sentence mixing to splice together a scene.
These are the people who say that male writers can't write female characters, then write men like this.
It’s equality in the worst way possible lol
@@JPOG7TV Well, it turns out they can't write female characters either, so...
You saying there are no men in the world like blondie here?
@@burningmagyk4986 Yes.
@@enkelegy xD love it, well played.
The more I see clips of this, the less I understand what this show is supposed to be about.
This show has no soul. And it shows.
But muh diversityyyyyyyyy
The entire point of the show is to be one of those '21st Century Moral Definitions' like Steven Universe where it's just all about social issues that have literally no weight when compared to actual contemporary world events and problems.
In fact, it doesn't even show anything. Its just nothing.
People still don't even know what the hell is a "Guardian" supposed to be.
@@protobust262 The problem is likely that there aren't any stakes. No real conflict, no stakes, no mystery make for a boring story.
I loved the way he said "Should've known you were stuck up", never watched this show before but he became my favorite character just because of that.
0:03 Why does she even laugh 💀
laughing at script on accident
Honestly, I would be laughing too due to the awkwardness, lol
It’s soooo jarring haha
This isn't dialogue, these are lines chosen at random.
As I said, sounds like they're talking *at* each other, not *to* each other.
The Oblivion conversations about mudcrabs are more cohesive than this.
It’s like there’s an entire sentence or two missing between some of these lines. It’s that badly written.
"We need to have a word. Ganon's trying to destroy Hyrule again"
“Well excuuuuuuuuse me, Princess!”
“A settlement needs your help. Here, I’ll mark it down on your map for you.” 🗺
Gee. It sure is boring around here.
How dare you compare that slop to the game morshu resides in
I knew I could not be the only person to instantly associate it to TLoZ.
"wow son! We need to have a word"
*Takes him inside
Black dude: So you're forced to say bad lines too?
Blonde guy: *nods and starts sobbing*
Black guy: (hug) it's okay man, I'm here for you
*Edit* Thanks this is the most likes I've ever gotten on a comment
The good ending
I want a meta narrative about the poor characters dealing with their shitty lives as HGS characters
All the voice cast of HGS Just deserve this tbh
Imagine having the possibility to be in the First "ANIME CREATED BY CRUNCYROLL"
and you are dealth with "but but ... I know the Triade wants to clone you because you are super good but i won't let them meeeee" or something like that
Like ... I pity them
UPDATE: i told my brother what was happening and he doesn't even like Anime and he's decided that since the title has "High" and "Spice" in it the writers are on drugs so....
-blonde guy- *white cis male*
The last part (Wow, son, we need to have a word) has such meme material potential, mostly because of how ridiculously hilarious it sounds. Like, the way the actor says it is pure gold
"There is no a likable straight male character": The animated series.
Slimeboy is right there..
“there are no likable characters” the animated series
Fixed it for you
Femboy Ginger and Slimeboy are the best
@@mqfii8992 From what I've seen of Ameress (or however her name is spelled) she is one of the ones people like over the main cast too....
@@tigercarings not quite sure
I like how uncreative aster’s “toxic masculinity” is. It’s so incredibly basic. What a one-note, token, stereotype character. Gotta have him be white, blonde haired, and blue eyed too. What revolutionary ground the writers are exploring here. It’s funny seeing them try to make cultural statements while simultaneously revealing their own prejudices.
that had "i hate men" writen all over lol.
I think a really good display of toxic masculinity was Sokka from Avatar: The Last Airbender
@@Nana-wi4gi Sokka was memorable lol how was he bad?!
@@JonkoSlunko What. I'm saying toxic masculinity was really portrayed well through him before he had his whole arc. He was sexist and had a skewed idea of what it meant to be a man. But it was never malicious and he genuinely cared about people.
@@Nana-wi4gi I see what you mean. He saw women as damsels and that he NEEDED to be strong to be a man, and not for an ego type of way but to prove himself as a person
"You guys should have seen this girl."
"go away."
oscar-worthy dialouge.
You speak the funnies kind stranger.
@@PeekinBlyne Thank you kindly ✨
“HAHAHA!”
That line is what really made the dialogue clunky for me
tbh i thought this was just an abridged version just because of that
My dialogues whenever someone tries talking to me: