eternal ponderer I'm being responsible and making sure someone said it before I and this comment, nice catch, i had seen that as well. cody, i really like your progress on the shop, it looks great and impressive you will get lots of joy from the projects you, jack and Mrs wranglerstar get from this shop.
Good eye. It also looked like he didn't use any washers to keep those screw heads from puling through the sheet metal with repeated changes and vibration. I'd have gone for rubber washers to prevent sound conduction into that wood ceiling.
Yeah, the ambiguous and sensational titles detract from such down to earth, informative, and wonderful videos. Hopefully we get the subject matter back in the titles sometime soon.
If you want the channel to continue then your just going to have to live with it having these type of titles. Personally i don't care about the titles because i click on anything that is "Wranglerstar" then after watching for a bit i decide if i want to continue watching or go to another video.
that's how most of us found this channel i bet but Cody seems like the kind of ass that does what he thinks is best even if it's in spite of what a group of people tell him.
If you were paying attention you would know that these titles ARE best as they give the biggest audience. If you don't have a minute or two to watch the intro then I dare say you don't have another 15-20 to watch the entire video anyway now do you? Sounds like you're more of an ass than a guy just trying to make a living on TH-cam.
Yeah, the Amazon Associate "kickback" is really massive, he will probably make his Mercedes payment on the air filters alone! (Sarcasm, since so many people can't distinguish.)
then you are vacuumcleaning you always aim the nozzle at the dirt right?? the same thing apply to air cleaners, you should turn them around the other way.and the air tends to be static charged so the dust will stick to the walls.so better to blow clean air on the wall and suck dirty air from the middle of the room. great video and i like your wallhanging system.
Your idea about all of those permanent things on you bench that can be clamped in is genius and I have a small drill press and a small machinist vice and all that other stuff. I will mount those on the T blocks and my 6' bench wont get so cluttered up now because my main vice is a wood workers vice with aluminum jaws that I put leather sheathes over for wood working and I think I will be very proud of my already crowded corner of my parents garage. (I am 16 years old)
Hey Cody. I was thinking that a foam (like pipe insulator) or rubber lip on the bottom edge of the air filters might be a good idea. I've knocked myself good on stuff like that where it's fine if you're standing still, but as you rise up on your toe to take a step or grab something, WHAMMO! A little bumper can really help prevent a goose egg. Also, have you considered a metal frame building? I think you can get those up for a comparable price, might even be able to do a partial kit, especially since you can likely reuse a lot of that siding. Just thinking of the added strength for snow load. Best of luck with the Home Depot thing:)
Cody I have been following your for years and you have a great channel, I do not look at the titles never have, I look for your new videos every day and sit down with a cup coffee and relax watching your videos. I am in my 60's and work very hard every day and your channel and ones like yours help me to relax as we don't have TV. So from my family THANKYOU.
I appreciate the transparency, Cody. Please do not listen to the haters and the whiners. The Channel and the content has only gotten better and better. I'm so glad that your partnerships and sponsors have been able to help your family. The tractor, the saw mill etc... Im sure they have been blessings, and have only served to deliver better content. This is my favourite channel. Warm wishes from Canada.
Love the plane rack, beautiful way to store them, see whats there (and whats missing), and keep them to hand, yet safe from damage. Well done. The air systems will pay themselves back with good health and easy maintenance. This shop has so many great features, and I've gotten a few ideas to add to my small shop, thanks for sharing your ideas with us.
Hi Cody - long time subscriber, first time caller. I'm continually amazed by your phenomenal work. You've inspired me time and time again to properly finish a job and not settle for for second rate work. The channel's success and continuation has been of great value in my life. Keep up the great work.
Check out the Oneida Dust Deputy for dust collection . I have hooked this to a shop vac for collection with shop equipment and general cleaning. You can turn a normal shop vac into a high efficiency dust collection system for around $40 and the cost of 4 inch hose and a 5 gal bucket.
Now especially since you have the tractor with forks you should look into the method I have used for the last few years for storing firewood. I palatalize it and wrap them with clear wrap. You can stack, wrap, then move to where ever you want for storage. Then move them closer to your house for use. The plastic wrap acts like a greenhouse and the wood dries out really well.
The dust filtration is a nice addition. Another inexpensive addition would be a cyclone for use with the shop vac. It will keep the shop vac filter from clogging up. A cyclone can even be made using a 5 gallon bucket. Look for videos on it, it's easy, cheap, and well worth it. Great video
John Gilson, I was going to say the same thing. I ran my dust straight into a shop-vac for a while and it nearly destroyed the vacuum and the filter was caked in the fine dust. The cyclone/5 gallon bucket has really helped.
if you turn your left airfilter so its blowing air to the right, then you can place it all the way against the wall. if you also place the right filter a little more away from the back wall, then the two filters will work together creating a circular motion for the air movement in the shop. Now the two are not working together... Just an idea.. love your videoes!
The french cleat/wall looks like a great system, Everything is visible at a glance, and easily accessible. Sorry about the snow damage to your big shop. My father and grandfather built a stick frame (2x6) shop decades ago. It was plywood sheeted roof and walls, like a house, sided and roofed with sheet metal. We had no major moisture issues, even here in SW WA. My grandfather loved it, it was the best outbuilding he ever had.
Great idea, and you can get them for buttons on ebay. I just bought 100 4mm round ones for £1.98 with free shipping on the slow boat from China. I don't know how they do it. I have about 20 left from left from my last batch, they are very strong, 2 Inlaid would more than enough to stop then vibrating off.
Great idea, I just bought 100 4mm neodymium magnets for £1.98. In shipping,on the slow boat from China. (about 21 days) Already have about 20 left from the last batch. Very handy things, amazingly strong for there size. Probably need two for the planes. Thoth them leaning back, 2would be more than enough
You have room outside the room but still under cover right? A switched outlet so you can turn it on inside the room and you can have the vac outside the room. Hooked up to pvc pipes with valves and you can use one vac for both saws along with a floor mounted spot to let you sweep the dirt to it to vacuum up. If you want a quick disconnect setup you can use a 5, 30 or 55 gallon barrel as a holding tank so it get the sawdust instead of the shopvac itself.
constructive criticism: if you have multiple messages to relay to us followers, perhaps do so in separate videos. i.e. keep this video purely shop talk for a later playlist, and then do an update on other matters? im not saying that this video is a culprit, its just something ive been thinking about lately. if someone is new here and finds a playlist on the recent shop work, the other topics will take away from it for them and they probably wont even know what youre talking about in regards to the other stuff.
I really enjoy your videos! I went thru the whole deal with dust collection, from shop vacs to a whole shop system. I opted for a Harbor Freight system, the largest they had. Instead of using the separator system I just mounted the motor the wall and ducted the exhaust outside with a dryer vent to direct the dust down and keep rain out. It works best in my opinion, no air restrictions and keeps the dust down a lot. Plumbing it to your tools can be a chore, the miter saw was the hardest. I also use the WEN air filtration and it works very well. Keep those videos coming!
I'd come down to lend a hand if it all comes together. It would be a great way to give back for all the hard work you've put in over the years bringing us such wonderful content.
One shed to cover all sounds like a good idea I'd recommend having a steep roof to keep the snow from building up and possibly have a leanto on the side of the shed for the wood storage and stack the wood on pallets to keep them off the ground and have an air gap below them to keep it dry ☺️
I know right, last night when I watched the video it had been up for 4 minutes and there was negative comments already .Come on out of respect to Cody viewers should at least watch the entire video first.
nothing amazing about it, ''haters gonna hate.'' i use that comment very lightly(otherwise it leaves no room for common sense) but in this case its very well true. -cody uses big titles/but his vids are very cool -cody uses sponsorships/but his vids are very cool -cody uses productplacement/but his vids are very cool i don,t care what a someone uses to make his channel and content great. i just enjoy it being great. besides don,t feed the trolls, don,t attent the haters, and don,t entertain idiots. every video over and over and over, people want to comment on the titles, and they don,t think they are troll,haters,idiots. you can,t help those people just ignore them.
This really hits home my step- father was a contractor and made custom cabinets in every one of houses he built. He died at the early age of 60 from pulmonary fibrosis a condition caused buy saw dust and other kinds of fines in the air. I'm glad you did this for you and your family.
I'm concerned the filter in the corner may cause dust to settle on the planes. Time will tell and I hope I'm wrong. I don't care about the titles. I watch them all as I find you and the things you do very interesting. It's always exciting when my TH-cam index shows you have a new video.
An idea for you if you haven't done it yet is to protect your vintage plane boxes. Several methods are used, but I like to snugly wrap the boxes with the loose ends folded on the back side or bottom side and gently kiss the folds with an iron on low heat to lightly seal. Make sure the boxes are 100% dry before wrapping. This is how I protect and store my vintage ammo boxes and they look terrific after decades. Oh and display out of direct sunlight. Great channel and thanks
WS: You might want to take a very hard look at steel - framed buildings in the application you propose. Since you already have a pretty uniform size pad, You should be able to select the needed height for your intentions, add as many "trusses" - and purlins- as needed for anticipated snow load. Spray foam insulate the exterior walls plus add skylights/windows as needed. You can always build a wood frame office/living quarters inside ! It all comes down to money !
OMGosh you remind me of my old cabinet making boss!! he passed and I would NOT be the man I am today without him and his dedicated men that worked under him!! they all admired his passion for tools and discipline.. it would be an absolute joy to work along side you just for a few days!! I'd be honored just to sweep up your mess.. you are an inspiration!!
great video!! As always.You NEED a dust deputy to hook up to your shop vac for dust collection. they are awesome and cheap ($50) it would handle all your needs in the shop. mount it to a 5 gala bucket, put your shop vac in a corner and get a bit more hose. Trust me it is life changing
Having a nice shop to get out of the weather for all of your stuff is a very happy feeling. And your right. just a stick frame building is all you need. We build a prefab building kit for our business and it was a nightmare to find anyone who could assemble the steel structure. Needed a crane on site and it really added up.
Your channel has a number of elements that make it a must watch for me.........thank you for getting back to building and maintaining a homestead WranglerStar!!
As a fellow woodworker that uses a shopvac for all my dust collection, you absolutely need a dust separator of some kind. Either a thein baffle or a cyclone separator. Or you will be dumping and clogging filters all the time. I've used an inexpensive (sub 100$) cyclone filter from amazon for a year or so now. It really does pick up 95%+ of the dust. Just dump the 5 gallon bucket when it gets full. Can't recommend it enough.
I like the idea of building the shop. Opens up possible video content in a lot of areas for your channel. This idea gives you the opportunity to build a shop the allows the roof to combat your snow problem if building codes, resources, and preferences allow.
I really don't understand why is the "titlegate" such a big issue here. How many times happend to someone who is subscriber of Wranglerstars channel that he really didnt like the content of the video? To me just once... I know that i like those videos and to be honest, mostly i dont even read those titels. All i need to know is that there is another video ready to watch .) keep up the good work Cody Wranglerstar ! Greatings from Europe
don't know if anyone has already suggested this, but I would suggest (unless running both of them is a necessity) running them for 2-4hrs at a time alternating between the 2 so you don't burn out the motor too quickly... just a thought
I'm pleased to see you now have dust control in your shop. It is not the chips or other large pieces that are dangerous to your health, it is the fine particulate of 1 micron or larger. I would suggest one large shop vac with a 5 gallon, 2nd stage separator. This has the advantage of having a better shop vac (w/hepa filter) and separating the large particles that would otherwise clog your filter by loosing only the space of a 5 gallon bucket. There are a number of TH-cam videos on how to build these separators with a minimum of effort. You can even build a common carrier for the shop vac and separator.
If you use a shop vac, you can plumb PVC from it to wherever you want in the shop and run a hose out to the tool being used. Put a cap or a screw plug in the ends that aren't being used. Build a foam lined box around the vacuum and exhaust it to the outside to reduce the noise from the vacuum cleaner.
Toby Pratt I can imagine how painful it would be! We had those at school, stored under the workbenches on a low shelf and if they fell on your foot from 6" it really hurt... so 4' plus would be very painful!
You could do a separate garage (with garage doors on both ends) example is a Quonset Hut (rounded roof better for snow/wind/fire). Use one end of building for p/u & car the other tractor/implements and leave center for vans and trailers. Although your building inside a Quonset Hut or outside will be restricted. Then use your pre-poured slab for other external living facility, storage/projects and wood storage.
I have about 660 square feet of "shop space" in my suburban garage, and I am using the same wen filters for catching particulate matter out of the air, but to be honest; the device that made the biggest difference for me was using a dust deputy ten gallon separator between my tools and the rigid sixteen gallon shop vac that I run in my shop. The biggest advantage is that I can keep the dust down in the shop without chewing through expensive HEPA or paper filters in my shop vac. The advantage is that you keep the dust from getting airborne in the first place; the drawback of using the vacuum without the cyclone separating device is that filters do not last very long under those conditions.
About the shopvac...buy an extra hose and run both hoses to your machines with the vac in the middle. Than you can change the hose quickly wenn using one of you machines. If the vac has enough capacity, you also could install a T-piece and attach both hoses permanent. With a couple of master-slave switches your all set. Looking forward to the new barn project, keep the videos coming. 👍
get some roof trusses made that can handle the snowload and at a pitch that will shed.You van incorpororate your loft with dormers.We call them attic trusses.Probably called the same there
We have not seen a winter like this in like forever! That old building has been around long enough to see some bad ones...this one was the 'straw' for it. Time to build for alpine conditions and hope for more moderate winters. I'm going to talk with a friend that builds ttrusses.... just to feel him out. Big outfit so they would be code to the plan. Great shop and loved the video.
Nice to see the shop coming together. I've had a garage workshop for years, so a few suggestions. 1 - I'd rotate the ceiling units 90 degrees to encourage a more circular flow of air in the space, as opposed to having the intake side parallel with the wall. 2 - Tie or tape a 12 inch piece of narrow Christmas ribbon to the outlet side of the unit. Take note of what it looks like with clean filters, and then this can be used as a quick visible indicator when the filters need cleaning. 3 - To extend the filter life, you can install a coarser pre-filter. At HD, I was able to find some 'bulk' material that can be cut down to size, and is nice and strong, so can be blown out with the compressor as needed. (my dust filter takes a 10x20 filter, a couple sections of vinyl siding J-bead and a couple of strip magnets does the trick for mounting) 4 - I would strongly recommend using your exiting shop-vac with the HEPA filter and add on a cyclone separator. You can buy them, or there are many TH-camr's that have made their own out of basic materials. Having the separator maintains the airflow that you want,, without having to be cleaning the filters as often. Couple that with a 12 foot hose, and your're in business. (also, I don't know how available HEPA filters are for the smaller size vacs) 5 - The "auto switching on" vac systems (at least the one's I've seen) are triggered off sensing the load drawn on 120 V tools. I'm not sure they would work with the cordless table and chop saw you have. I have my shop vac plugged into a 120V "adapter" that has a key-fob remote control for on and off. (not sure where I bought it years back, might have been HD, or Lee Valley) This allows me to leave the shop-vac running for a minute after the saw turns off. 6 - Painting the floor will go a long way to making clean up easier. I have 5/8 T&G PT plywood over the concrete, and it's painted basic grey. So much easier to sweep and keep clean than the surface of plywood. Also it stops the wood underfoot from absorbing moisture from boots etc, which causes the surface to get rougher as the grain expands.
Just an Idea Cody. Would it be more comfortable for you if you put both filters on the wall w the French cleats? One where it is now and the other by the window. That way you wouldn't have to walk under it....just an idea
then the problem is one of the sides of the filer is blocked so it would be harder for the air to flow through it, it looks hard enough as it is where he put it
Yah, you have a good point. Someone else was commenting about the thermal dynamics in the room, something about having the filters opposing would be more efficient at recycling the clean air. Interesting!
Shop vacs and a Dust deputy work great for my shop. I use filter bags in the shop vac to keep fine dust out of the air and the Dust Deputy to catch the shavings and bigger dust and keep my bags from filling up.
Tanner01 I'm really looking forward to seeing the floor too. The shop is really starting to come together and I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming videos :)
I was thinking the same thing. After the floor is put in, the units will be a little closer to his head. He always seems to think things through pretty well though.
I didn't realize that I'd hear about the pole barn being destroyed and possibly a new main shop. Looking forward to that, sorry about the loss of the pole barn. I'm sure you will be happy to have a better built and constructed main shop though
I have a friend who took two 40' shipping containers and made a barn out of them by putting a roof over both of them and the space in between them is for their horse and hay. The two 40' containers are used for storage and workshop. You might consider this for your new barn/workshop.
That's a lot of land! I went the 40 acre route once and something I did not consider was that you have to maintain all the land. There will probably be people trespassing and hunting and riding 4 wheeler, building tree forts, camping and generally using your land. That did not bother me so much except for liability issues, but a few No Trespassing signs takes care of that. But people will probably also dump on your land and they could even log it illegally. Just something to think about, 160 acres is a very large parcel.
Ben Poliquin Great idea Ben! Too late for us though, we sold our land in Central Fl. to move to the Asheville NC area for my wife's job. We have been renting since and kind of discovered the homesteading dream is just not for us. We could do it but we are thinking of a nice small lot on a lake somewhere when the last kids are booted out in a few years getting a 5th wheel and doing the travel thing. Though I am desperatly trying to talk my wife into a sailboat. That has always been my ultimate dream from childhood growing up in Florida. I just want to get a 40 footer and cruise. I have no interest in circumnavigation, I just want to float around the Caribbean and maybe the Gulf. Maybe do the Panama Canal and get over to the left coast once or twice, do the Baja Peninsula. I would be content with that. Anyway...That's my dream...
I have learned so much from your videos and bought some of the products you use. I payed for college by being a welder but seeing all the wood working gear is a treat. Let me know when the barn raising is. I will drive up to help, plus I'm an ER nurse and could provide support to those who hit their finger with a hammer!
I totally understand about all the snow. We live in the mountains and literally haven't had this much snow sine 1983 and we have a metal fabricated garage in which the entire roof caved in. The good thing is we found a company that is having a sale right now and are getting another, better garage out of it.
Wranglerstar, one issue with the shop vacuum is they are noisy compared to a dust collection unit. I purchased a unit that would be suitable for your shop and it is only 68 decibels. You can always install the collection unit outside in a small enclosure and run the intake through the wall. You don't need to have permanent hookups either, you could just have one hose if you wanted, but look in to how to properly ground the hose to avoid explosion hazards.
The idea of knocking down the old barn and propely doing a new one sounds really exiting!! i hope you make a series out of it! and about the air filters, i would put those more towards the machines you are going to use the most!
Cody, I think someone mentioned it before but incase you missed it, the prefilter (disposable) in the corner unit by your clamp cabinet went in backwards (there was a flow arrow on the side). Great video! Take care.
I'm glad to see you started to focus on clean air. I've done the same setup, and the cyclone separator is so good, you will wonder how you ever did without it. Oneida dust deputy kit is worth the money, made in the USA, and to me is essential to have if you plan on using the shop vac for dust collection.
You will find you will need a separator-I suggest the "dust deputy" from Oneida. It's a really simple setup, you just need a 5gal bucket with a removable lid and some caulk, along with an extra hose and it saves your filter bags. I have 6+ garbage bags of sawdust so far and haven't replaced my Vac filter. Just a suggestion.
I had the same thought about all the dust swirling in your shop and how much you'd benefit from air filtration, but I didn't write a comment because like you said about the 'safety police' always chiming in and I didn't want you to think my comment was negative in any way. But I'm glad you've taken this first big step, you'll quickly forget about blowing your nose and seeing sawdust on the tissue. In the last year or so I stepped up my dust collection from a simple shopvac to using Oneida's "dust deputy jr." over a 5-gallon bucket, combined with our old Dyson vacuum that was broken beyond being useful in the house, and I house those two items vertically on a cart that I made from our old laminate countertops. I was inspired to make this after watching a similar project Jay Bates made around the same time. I recommend it, saves tons of effort emptying the shopvac canister and cleaning the shopvac filter. Anywho, I love your videos and have been a fan for years, you keep making them and I'll keep watching!
everything you do on your channel is always a huge inspiration to me, there isnt a single video i havent watched or disliked. keep up everything you do. looking forward to seeing the barn rebuild. I plan on building a shop that same size when i buy some land so its going to be exciting to see how yours turns out and give me ideas on how i can do mine.
Cody, you might consider using a 2" trailer hitch receiver to mount your Balder and other large items that you don't want permanently fixed to a bench. Fix the receiver anywhere you like and then mount the tool to a plate welded to the male end. I an loving the shop make over!
Woodturners generate lots of dust and particles from their lathe. Videos are out there about using a shop vac with a cyclone prefilter to reduce the load on the shop vac filter. The videos also show noise enclosures with serpentine exhaust paths that really reduce the noise...although your chop saw and table saw would still be noisy. I'd be happy to provide some representative links to these videos if you ask.
Really glad that you have air filtration now. Something you may wish to think about is maybe moving the system above the drill press that is somewhat "cozy" to an area below waist height near the main work area. That way any dust that is kicked up could get sucked in.
Hi Cody, have a look at the traditional Swedish barns. My barn is built like a loghouse with solid rough sawn timber. Given that you got a sawmill you could saw all of them yourself - sure it will take a while, but watching you build stuff is the very reason I am watching ;-) All the best, John
Nice job Cody, I used the Delta small two bag vac system and ran flex hose to each tool with a simple gate to regulate the flow to each machine, put the unit in the corner and the hose where light and flexible. Much quitter than a shop vac and more efficient power wise. Just a thought. I like your thinking and your work enjoy your videos very much. You also got me up off my old butt and back in the sop. Thanks
Love the idea of the big shed, some old advice always pops back into my mind when discussing shed size, work out how big you think you need it, and then double it!
If you can have fresh air go through the shop it really helps. One fan blowing in one window and one blowing out another is optimal in warm weather. The vacuums are crazy loud. risking makes a small dust collector that isn't too pricy.
On your polebarn, fill in the windows with xxxx bracing for support and with 2 x 12 headers. Put a garage door for a car in one corner with 2 walls and ceiling, boxed-in. .Put x bracing in all corners and 2 x 12 headers over all doors and windows. It looks like your trusses may be too far apart. You may need to add more trusses between each one.
Just a little FYI on air scrubbers: Normally when running 2 in the same shop, they should be placed on opposite walls from each other, and blowing in opposite directions. This creates a circular air flow in the shop, which is much more efficient. Think cyclone vacuum. In your case, both blowing against the opposite wall will create turbulence, sort of like a river, with eddys and pools of moving and still air interspersed with turbulent air. You could probably mount these units vertically on the wall if needed for head room.
Think it's wise to go with the pole barn rebuild. You could extend an awning to store farm-type equipment and have ample interior room for the other needs. Also eventually capture rainwater from the metal roof if that is on the horizon. Good luck.
Cody before you go out and buy another shopvac buy a big garbage can and drill holes in it the size of the hose and put a wire screen on top of it so it will collect the sawdust and when its full you can throw it away or use it for something like putting it on spills in the garage or something my dad showed it to me and it is really effective on keeping the sawdust in it
Great move installing those filters Cody! Since you want to be portable with a vacuum for your saws/whatevers, maybe a small cart with the vac and a large bucket/dust deputy (or similar) separator. Save a ton of life on those hepa filters.
Air filtration systems are meant to be in a central location somewhat near a main work area. Up against the wall will impead its performance. Also, a simple one stage 3hp collector would be ideal for your setup, much better than a shop vac. They're very affordable.
I hope the whole thing with getting a sponsor on your shop/garage/barn goes well Cody! What a blessing that could be for you and yours. I will have your situation in my prayers
Hey Cody! My comment is about dust collection. My wife and I do a fair share of woodworking in a small space like you. We use a portable table saw and portable compound mitre saw like you have there... and we previously used a shop-vac to draw dust from the saws, however we found that the filter on the shop-vac plugged rather quickly from all the fine dust and we'd lose suction. We have since remedied this problem by purchasing a Festool vacuum. You don't need to buy Festool saws to work with is vacuum(can be used with any tool brand) and it also has the remote power option that you mentioned which turns on the vacuum when you turn on the tool. Festool's filter system prevents premature suction loss... Oh, and they're MADE IN GERMANY!!
Awesome ideas for the shop! Can't wait to see the barn build. That will be a great help for you and your family. Always fun to come along and see the progress. Thanks for the videos.
Good to see that some regard for air quality has finally come to the fore. Those units can be mounted at any angle so why not 'french cleat ' to the wall and make them relocatable. Next, have you taken thought about introducing fresh air in or exhausting fumes when painting/staining. etc.Next, why not think outside the box, so to speak, cannot these things be installed outside? Having a few loops suspended across the ceiling (no trip ups from being on the floor)for the exhaust hoses to an outlet on the wall going outside to the exhaust unit.The hose is then wound up onto FCG (French Cleat Hanger). Fresh air can be redirected along the stove heater chimney to rewarm it if the outside is below normal.Remember, what you exhaust out of a space needs to be replaced(when exhausting) and if using fresh air introduction then a pressure relief needs to be allowed for.
Hi! For max efficiency the fans should be in opposite corners facing the "same way" so that the air starts to circle the room ... hope you catch what I'm trying to say! Enjoying this series so much , thanks for sharing!!
get two hoses for the shop vac and leave them attached to the tool. then plug the hose into the vac when you use the tool. one shop vac, easy set up and you could even run a hose outside from the discharge port on the back if you vac is set up with a port. I'm sure you could tee the hoses easily if using both tolls
Cody! Nice job with the dust collection and air filtration. Watching your workbench series, i was thinking 'man he needs to get some dust collection' especially with running the table saw ripping all that plywood. A couple suggestions if I may... First, your air filtration will be more effective if they're working in unison to circulate. Ideally, you'd like to have one by the clamp rack blowing towards the entry door, and the other above where your wood stove was, blowing the opposite direction to create a circular swirl to the air. Second, if you're looking for another shop vac, i just bought the 16 gal stainless Ridgid, and it's a beast... Definitely recommend it! Looks nice too. Keep up the good work!
Just a thought about airflow. If you are concerned about maximizing the flow, would it be better to have one of the filters on the other side of the shop(window side)? And if a filter gets relocated, changing the direction of the discharge to maximize the flow inside the room? The shop looks great and I'm getting a lot of ideas for my build out....someday.
I would go with a dedicated shop vac for each tool. You have mobile stands, so move outside when you can for major projects (so you don't fill up a HEPA bag with a bunch of chips unnecessarily). And for you ceiling units... I've always heard to mount them such that they "swirl" the air around the space. So maybe rotate the first one you installed to be parallel to the "nice" wall and put the other above the wood stove to create the swirl?
Little by little, the shop just gets better and better. Im so excited!!!!
Thank you Fred.
15:54 - Pre-Filter installed backwards.
i was going to tell him .. but you beat me too it ... the filter has a nice little arrow indicating direction of air flow
eternal ponderer I'm being responsible and making sure someone said it before I and this comment, nice catch, i had seen that as well. cody, i really like your progress on the shop, it looks great and impressive you will get lots of joy from the projects you, jack and Mrs wranglerstar get from this shop.
was just about to point this out...
Good eye. It also looked like he didn't use any washers to keep those screw heads from puling through the sheet metal with repeated changes and vibration. I'd have gone for rubber washers to prevent sound conduction into that wood ceiling.
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Fortunately, Oregon is much quieter than Cali and Washington, in that regard.
I liked when i could tell what the video was about by the title.
Yeah, the ambiguous and sensational titles detract from such down to earth, informative, and wonderful videos. Hopefully we get the subject matter back in the titles sometime soon.
If you want the channel to continue then your just going to have to live with it having these type of titles. Personally i don't care about the titles because i click on anything that is "Wranglerstar" then after watching for a bit i decide if i want to continue watching or go to another video.
that's how most of us found this channel i bet but Cody seems like the kind of ass that does what he thinks is best even if it's in spite of what a group of people tell him.
Or at least out a number and series title after the clickbait buzz feed stuff so it's easy to find the first one if you missed some videos
If you were paying attention you would know that these titles ARE best as they give the biggest audience. If you don't have a minute or two to watch the intro then I dare say you don't have another 15-20 to watch the entire video anyway now do you? Sounds like you're more of an ass than a guy just trying to make a living on TH-cam.
I always laugh at "Why buy one, when you can buy two at twice the price." Great video.
Yeah use wranglestar's links and he gets twice the kickback.
Yeah, the Amazon Associate "kickback" is really massive, he will probably make his Mercedes payment on the air filters alone! (Sarcasm, since so many people can't distinguish.)
TH-cam loves you because you are a real person, not just selling stuff but showing how you approached your shop!
Good Job,
Jimmy
The titles are a bit much but if it help with views and revenue so you can continue making videos for us I'm all for it.
then you are vacuumcleaning you always aim the nozzle at the dirt right?? the same thing apply to air cleaners, you should turn them around the other way.and the air tends to be static charged so the dust will stick to the walls.so better to blow clean air on the wall and suck dirty air from the middle of the room.
great video and i like your wallhanging system.
Your idea about all of those permanent things on you bench that can be clamped in is genius and I have a small drill press and a small machinist vice and all that other stuff. I will mount those on the T blocks and my 6' bench wont get so cluttered up now because my main vice is a wood workers vice with aluminum jaws that I put leather sheathes over for wood working and I think I will be very proud of my already crowded corner of my parents garage. (I am 16 years old)
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looked like you put the first filter in backwards, watch the airflow arrows! ;)
BoilerRoomRadio Thank you. yup. Fixed it off-camera.
mount the air filters vertically so you have head room :)
Hey Cody. I was thinking that a foam (like pipe insulator) or rubber lip on the bottom edge of the air filters might be a good idea. I've knocked myself good on stuff like that where it's fine if you're standing still, but as you rise up on your toe to take a step or grab something, WHAMMO! A little bumper can really help prevent a goose egg.
Also, have you considered a metal frame building? I think you can get those up for a comparable price, might even be able to do a partial kit, especially since you can likely reuse a lot of that siding. Just thinking of the added strength for snow load. Best of luck with the Home Depot thing:)
Cody I have been following your for years and you have a great channel, I do not look at the titles never have, I look for your new videos every day and sit down with a cup coffee and relax watching your videos. I am in my 60's and work very hard every day and your channel and ones like yours help me to relax as we don't have TV. So from my family THANKYOU.
I appreciate the transparency, Cody. Please do not listen to the haters and the whiners. The Channel and the content has only gotten better and better. I'm so glad that your partnerships and sponsors have been able to help your family. The tractor, the saw mill etc... Im sure they have been blessings, and have only served to deliver better content. This is my favourite channel. Warm wishes from Canada.
And I hope home depot gets on board! would love to see a modern homesteading BARN RAISING! YeeeeeeHaaaawwww!
PeteBillings I would love to help!
Love the plane rack, beautiful way to store them, see whats there (and whats missing), and keep them to hand, yet safe from damage. Well done. The air systems will pay themselves back with good health and easy maintenance. This shop has so many great features, and I've gotten a few ideas to add to my small shop, thanks for sharing your ideas with us.
turn the air filters on their side and mount them on the wall.
put them on french cleats? haha!
Unless they're something special, being mounted sideways would destroy the bearings in the blower wheel in short order.
.... depends on whether you mount them sideways or in the same plane (see what I did there?) ..... Good point to bear in mind though!
Hi Cody - long time subscriber, first time caller. I'm continually amazed by your phenomenal work. You've inspired me time and time again to properly finish a job and not settle for for second rate work. The channel's success and continuation has been of great value in my life. Keep up the great work.
Check out the Oneida Dust Deputy for dust collection . I have hooked this to a shop vac for collection with shop equipment and general cleaning. You can turn a normal shop vac into a high efficiency dust collection system for around $40 and the cost of 4 inch hose and a 5 gal bucket.
Verne Mahorney use ABS plumbing pipe to connect the shopvac to the cyclone, you lose less airflow that way.
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Now especially since you have the tractor with forks you should look into the method I have used for the last few years for storing firewood. I palatalize it and wrap them with clear wrap. You can stack, wrap, then move to where ever you want for storage. Then move them closer to your house for use. The plastic wrap acts like a greenhouse and the wood dries out really well.
The dust filtration is a nice addition. Another inexpensive addition would be a cyclone for use with the shop vac. It will keep the shop vac filter from clogging up. A cyclone can even be made using a 5 gallon bucket. Look for videos on it, it's easy, cheap, and well worth it. Great video
John Gilson, I was going to say the same thing. I ran my dust straight into a shop-vac for a while and it nearly destroyed the vacuum and the filter was caked in the fine dust. The cyclone/5 gallon bucket has really helped.
I think the saving of filter on your shop vac will be super handy. You can make it into a single cart that moves together. WWMM did a nice design.
if you turn your left airfilter so its blowing air to the right, then you can place it all the way against the wall. if you also place the right filter a little more away from the back wall, then the two filters will work together creating a circular motion for the air movement in the shop. Now the two are not working together... Just an idea.. love your videoes!
28 minutes is a nice surprise :)
The french cleat/wall looks like a great system, Everything is visible at a glance, and easily accessible. Sorry about the snow damage to your big shop. My father and grandfather built a stick frame (2x6) shop decades ago. It was plywood sheeted roof and walls, like a house, sided and roofed with sheet metal. We had no major moisture issues, even here in SW WA. My grandfather loved it, it was the best outbuilding he ever had.
You can always hide magnets behind the planes in case of earthquakes.
That is a great idea. Thanks.
I'm thinking he is west of the I-5 which is due to have an earthquake, and his tools will fall on the floor..
Nope, east of I-5
Great idea, and you can get them for buttons on ebay. I just bought 100 4mm round ones for £1.98 with free shipping on the slow boat from China. I don't know how they do it.
I have about 20 left from left from my last batch, they are very strong, 2 Inlaid would more than enough to stop then vibrating off.
Great idea, I just bought 100 4mm neodymium magnets for £1.98. In shipping,on the slow boat from China. (about 21 days) Already have about 20 left from the last batch. Very handy things, amazingly strong for there size. Probably need two for the planes. Thoth them leaning back, 2would be more than enough
You have room outside the room but still under cover right? A switched outlet so you can turn it on inside the room and you can have the vac outside the room. Hooked up to pvc pipes with valves and you can use one vac for both saws along with a floor mounted spot to let you sweep the dirt to it to vacuum up.
If you want a quick disconnect setup you can use a 5, 30 or 55 gallon barrel as a holding tank so it get the sawdust instead of the shopvac itself.
constructive criticism: if you have multiple messages to relay to us followers, perhaps do so in separate videos. i.e. keep this video purely shop talk for a later playlist, and then do an update on other matters?
im not saying that this video is a culprit, its just something ive been thinking about lately. if someone is new here and finds a playlist on the recent shop work, the other topics will take away from it for them and they probably wont even know what youre talking about in regards to the other stuff.
I really enjoy your videos! I went thru the whole deal with dust collection, from shop vacs to a whole shop system. I opted for a Harbor Freight system, the largest they had. Instead of using the separator system I just mounted the motor the wall and ducted the exhaust outside with a dryer vent to direct the dust down and keep rain out. It works best in my opinion, no air restrictions and keeps the dust down a lot. Plumbing it to your tools can be a chore, the miter saw was the hardest. I also use the WEN air filtration and it works very well. Keep those videos coming!
I'd come down to lend a hand if it all comes together. It would be a great way to give back for all the hard work you've put in over the years bringing us such wonderful content.
One shed to cover all sounds like a good idea I'd recommend having a steep roof to keep the snow from building up and possibly have a leanto on the side of the shed for the wood storage and stack the wood on pallets to keep them off the ground and have an air gap below them to keep it dry ☺️
unlike some people I am going too watch the 28 minutes video before commenting on it.
28 minutes later ,a great video as always.
Amazing what people choose to complain about, isn't it?
I know right, last night when I watched the video it had been up for 4 minutes and there was negative comments already .Come on out of respect to Cody viewers should at least watch the entire video first.
nothing amazing about it, ''haters gonna hate.''
i use that comment very lightly(otherwise it leaves no room for common sense) but in this case its very well true.
-cody uses big titles/but his vids are very cool
-cody uses sponsorships/but his vids are very cool
-cody uses productplacement/but his vids are very cool
i don,t care what a someone uses to make his channel and content great.
i just enjoy it being great.
besides don,t feed the trolls, don,t attent the haters, and don,t entertain idiots.
every video over and over and over, people want to comment on the titles, and they don,t think they are troll,haters,idiots. you can,t help those people just ignore them.
Time machine,they are really common in the future.I mean the present time for me but the future for you.
Did you really just post a comment saying you're going to watch the entire video before commenting, before you watched the video? ....
This really hits home my step- father was a contractor and made custom cabinets in every one of houses he built. He died at the early age of 60 from pulmonary fibrosis a condition caused buy saw dust and other kinds of fines in the air. I'm glad you did this for you and your family.
I'm concerned the filter in the corner may cause dust to settle on the planes. Time will tell and I hope I'm wrong. I don't care about the titles. I watch them all as I find you and the things you do very interesting. It's always exciting when my TH-cam index shows you have a new video.
An idea for you if you haven't done it yet is to protect your vintage plane boxes. Several methods are used, but I like to snugly wrap the boxes with the loose ends folded on the back side or bottom side and gently kiss the folds with an iron on low heat to lightly seal. Make sure the boxes are 100% dry before wrapping. This is how I protect and store my vintage ammo boxes and they look terrific after decades. Oh and display out of direct sunlight.
Great channel and thanks
First I see riving knives and now an air filter. It's almost like you care about your well being by doing more than drinking juice.
WS: You might want to take a very hard look at steel - framed buildings in the application you propose. Since you already have a pretty uniform size pad, You should be able to select the needed height for your intentions, add as many "trusses" - and purlins- as needed for anticipated snow load. Spray foam insulate the exterior walls plus add skylights/windows as needed. You can always build a wood frame office/living quarters inside ! It all comes down to money !
I am a contractor for home depo I will put your name out there and see what some of them think or can do about sponsoring you.
OMGosh you remind me of my old cabinet making boss!! he passed and I would NOT be the man I am today without him and his dedicated men that worked under him!! they all admired his passion for tools and discipline.. it would be an absolute joy to work along side you just for a few days!! I'd be honored just to sweep up your mess.. you are an inspiration!!
Nice video, glad your taking care of your lungs you won't regret it. Safety Sally can be a pain but COPD is not something to take lightly.
great video!! As always.You NEED a dust deputy to hook up to your shop vac for dust collection. they are awesome and cheap ($50) it would handle all your needs in the shop. mount it to a 5 gala bucket, put your shop vac in a corner and get a bit more hose. Trust me it is life changing
"Every man needs to have a good shop", you just triggered half the world.
And I have yet to ever hear a woman complain!
Tenspeed TheBikeHanger female viewers of this channel are likely the sort that know how to pick their battles wisely
Or they are just not the snowflake type looking to be offended by everything.
Having a nice shop to get out of the weather for all of your stuff is a very happy feeling. And your right. just a stick frame building is all you need. We build a prefab building kit for our business and it was a nightmare to find anyone who could assemble the steel structure. Needed a crane on site and it really added up.
20" box fan with 20x20 a/c pleated filter $30-$60
Your channel has a number of elements that make it a must watch for me.........thank you for getting back to building and maintaining a homestead WranglerStar!!
may want to switch that filter around looked like you put it in backwards according to the arrow on it.
yup. Did so off-camera. Thanks!
As a fellow woodworker that uses a shopvac for all my dust collection, you absolutely need a dust separator of some kind. Either a thein baffle or a cyclone separator. Or you will be dumping and clogging filters all the time. I've used an inexpensive (sub 100$) cyclone filter from amazon for a year or so now. It really does pick up 95%+ of the dust. Just dump the 5 gallon bucket when it gets full. Can't recommend it enough.
"Sorry Wen, you're not an official sponsor." I love it!
I like the idea of building the shop. Opens up possible video content in a lot of areas for your channel. This idea gives you the opportunity to build a shop the allows the roof to combat your snow problem if building codes, resources, and preferences allow.
I really don't understand why is the "titlegate" such a big issue here. How many times happend to someone who is subscriber of Wranglerstars channel that he really didnt like the content of the video? To me just once... I know that i like those videos and to be honest, mostly i dont even read those titels. All i need to know is that there is another video ready to watch .)
keep up the good work Cody Wranglerstar !
Greatings from Europe
don't know if anyone has already suggested this, but I would suggest (unless running both of them is a necessity) running them for 2-4hrs at a time alternating between the 2 so you don't burn out the motor too quickly... just a thought
Loving the videos
Thank you.
I'm pleased to see you now have dust control in your shop. It is not the chips or other large pieces that are dangerous to your health, it is the fine particulate of 1 micron or larger.
I would suggest one large shop vac with a 5 gallon, 2nd stage separator. This has the advantage of having a better shop vac (w/hepa filter) and separating the large particles that would otherwise clog your filter by loosing only the space of a 5 gallon bucket. There are a number of TH-cam videos on how to build these separators with a minimum of effort. You can even build a common carrier for the shop vac and separator.
You seriously need to install some plugs at bench top level now while it's still at least somewhat easy.
If you use a shop vac, you can plumb PVC from it to wherever you want in the shop and run a hose out to the tool being used. Put a cap or a screw plug in the ends that aren't being used.
Build a foam lined box around the vacuum and exhaust it to the outside to reduce the noise from the vacuum cleaner.
If that vise falls on your foot make sure to film it 😂
Toby Pratt I can imagine how painful it would be! We had those at school, stored under the workbenches on a low shelf and if they fell on your foot from 6" it really hurt... so 4' plus would be very painful!
You could do a separate garage (with garage doors on both ends) example is a Quonset Hut (rounded roof better for snow/wind/fire). Use one end of building for p/u & car the other tractor/implements and leave center for vans and trailers. Although your building inside a Quonset Hut or outside will be restricted. Then use your pre-poured slab for other external living facility, storage/projects and wood storage.
Put french cleats on those air filters and mount them out of the way on the walls!
John Joseph That was my idea too
So, french cleats will be the next inside joke for the Wranglerstar channel. :)
I'm sorry, Doc.... I didn't see your suggestion!
I have about 660 square feet of "shop space" in my suburban garage, and I am using the same wen filters for catching particulate matter out of the air, but to be honest; the device that made the biggest difference for me was using a dust deputy ten gallon separator between my tools and the rigid sixteen gallon shop vac that I run in my shop. The biggest advantage is that I can keep the dust down in the shop without chewing through expensive HEPA or paper filters in my shop vac. The advantage is that you keep the dust from getting airborne in the first place; the drawback of using the vacuum without the cyclone separating device is that filters do not last very long under those conditions.
15:55.....you put the prefilter in backwards
About the shopvac...buy an extra hose and run both hoses to your machines with the vac in the middle.
Than you can change the hose quickly wenn using one of you machines.
If the vac has enough capacity, you also could install a T-piece and attach both hoses permanent.
With a couple of master-slave switches your all set.
Looking forward to the new barn project, keep the videos coming. 👍
If you do build a new barn. will the roof have more pitch to try to allow it to self shed the snow?
To be sure,
get some roof trusses made that can handle the snowload and at a pitch that will shed.You van incorpororate your loft with dormers.We call them attic trusses.Probably called the same there
We have not seen a winter like this in like forever! That old building has been around long enough to see some bad ones...this one was the 'straw' for it. Time to build for alpine conditions and hope for more moderate winters. I'm going to talk with a friend that builds ttrusses.... just to feel him out. Big outfit so they would be code to the plan. Great shop and loved the video.
Nice to see the shop coming together. I've had a garage workshop for years, so a few suggestions.
1 - I'd rotate the ceiling units 90 degrees to encourage a more circular flow of air in the space, as opposed to having the intake side parallel with the wall.
2 - Tie or tape a 12 inch piece of narrow Christmas ribbon to the outlet side of the unit. Take note of what it looks like with clean filters, and then this can be used as a quick visible indicator when the filters need cleaning.
3 - To extend the filter life, you can install a coarser pre-filter. At HD, I was able to find some 'bulk' material that can be cut down to size, and is nice and strong, so can be blown out with the compressor as needed. (my dust filter takes a 10x20 filter, a couple sections of vinyl siding J-bead and a couple of strip magnets does the trick for mounting)
4 - I would strongly recommend using your exiting shop-vac with the HEPA filter and add on a cyclone separator. You can buy them, or there are many TH-camr's that have made their own out of basic materials. Having the separator maintains the airflow that you want,, without having to be cleaning the filters as often. Couple that with a 12 foot hose, and your're in business. (also, I don't know how available HEPA filters are for the smaller size vacs)
5 - The "auto switching on" vac systems (at least the one's I've seen) are triggered off sensing the load drawn on 120 V tools. I'm not sure they would work with the cordless table and chop saw you have. I have my shop vac plugged into a 120V "adapter" that has a key-fob remote control for on and off. (not sure where I bought it years back, might have been HD, or Lee Valley) This allows me to leave the shop-vac running for a minute after the saw turns off.
6 - Painting the floor will go a long way to making clean up easier. I have 5/8 T&G PT plywood over the concrete, and it's painted basic grey. So much easier to sweep and keep clean than the surface of plywood. Also it stops the wood underfoot from absorbing moisture from boots etc, which causes the surface to get rougher as the grain expands.
Just an Idea Cody. Would it be more comfortable for you if you put both filters on the wall w the French cleats? One where it is now and the other by the window. That way you wouldn't have to walk under it....just an idea
Nice idea!!! I was trying to think of elsewhere also lol
then the problem is one of the sides of the filer is blocked so it would be harder for the air to flow through it, it looks hard enough as it is where he put it
Yah, you have a good point. Someone else was commenting about the thermal dynamics in the room, something about having the filters opposing would be more efficient at recycling the clean air. Interesting!
Boltzor Gaming air don't care
Shop vacs and a Dust deputy work great for my shop. I use filter bags in the shop vac to keep fine dust out of the air and the Dust Deputy to catch the shavings and bigger dust and keep my bags from filling up.
Did you calculate for your wood floor
Tanner01 I'm really looking forward to seeing the floor too. The shop is really starting to come together and I'm looking forward to seeing the upcoming videos :)
I was thinking the same thing. After the floor is put in, the units will be a little closer to his head. He always seems to think things through pretty well though.
I didn't realize that I'd hear about the pole barn being destroyed and possibly a new main shop. Looking forward to that, sorry about the loss of the pole barn. I'm sure you will be happy to have a better built and constructed main shop though
Any reason that the air filters aren't installed filter side facing the middle of the room?
Lionskull The remotes are probably infrared and need line of sight to work plus you couldn't see the indicator lights for how long the timer is set.
I have a friend who took two 40' shipping containers and made a barn out of them by putting a roof over both of them and the space in between them is for their horse and hay. The two 40' containers are used for storage and workshop. You might consider this for your new barn/workshop.
how much land do you guys have? Im looking at around 160 acres in northern Michigan. just got out of the military so trying to start a new life.
thank you for the support.
jonathan mcgregor Thanks for your service!
That's a lot of land! I went the 40 acre route once and something I did not consider was that you have to maintain all the land. There will probably be people trespassing and hunting and riding 4 wheeler, building tree forts, camping and generally using your land. That did not bother me so much except for liability issues, but a few No Trespassing signs takes care of that. But people will probably also dump on your land and they could even log it illegally. Just something to think about, 160 acres is a very large parcel.
Ben Poliquin
Great idea Ben! Too late for us though, we sold our land in Central Fl. to move to the Asheville NC area for my wife's job. We have been renting since and kind of discovered the homesteading dream is just not for us. We could do it but we are thinking of a nice small lot on a lake somewhere when the last kids are booted out in a few years getting a 5th wheel and doing the travel thing. Though I am desperatly trying to talk my wife into a sailboat. That has always been my ultimate dream from childhood growing up in Florida. I just want to get a 40 footer and cruise. I have no interest in circumnavigation, I just want to float around the Caribbean and maybe the Gulf. Maybe do the Panama Canal and get over to the left coast once or twice, do the Baja Peninsula. I would be content with that. Anyway...That's my dream...
Ben Poliquin
A wooded lot somewhere cool would be awesome just to vacation on. Sorry to hijack your thread Johnathon. :-)
I have learned so much from your videos and bought some of the products you use. I payed for college by being a welder but seeing all the wood working gear is a treat. Let me know when the barn raising is. I will drive up to help, plus I'm an ER nurse and could provide support to those who hit their finger with a hammer!
800th!
Awesome Daniel!
I totally understand about all the snow. We live in the mountains and literally haven't had this much snow sine 1983 and we have a metal fabricated garage in which the entire roof caved in. The good thing is we found a company that is having a sale right now and are getting another, better garage out of it.
Wranglerstar, one issue with the shop vacuum is they are noisy compared to a dust collection unit. I purchased a unit that would be suitable for your shop and it is only 68 decibels. You can always install the collection unit outside in a small enclosure and run the intake through the wall. You don't need to have permanent hookups either, you could just have one hose if you wanted, but look in to how to properly ground the hose to avoid explosion hazards.
The idea of knocking down the old barn and propely doing a new one sounds really exiting!! i hope you make a series out of it! and about the air filters, i would put those more towards the machines you are going to use the most!
Loving the french cleat system. There is something so satisfying about a well thought out and organized shop. Thanks for the inspiration Cody!
Cody, I think someone mentioned it before but incase you missed it, the prefilter (disposable) in the corner unit by your clamp cabinet went in backwards (there was a flow arrow on the side). Great video! Take care.
I'm glad to see you started to focus on clean air. I've done the same setup, and the cyclone separator is so good, you will wonder how you ever did without it. Oneida dust deputy kit is worth the money, made in the USA, and to me is essential to have if you plan on using the shop vac for dust collection.
You will find you will need a separator-I suggest the "dust deputy" from Oneida. It's a really simple setup, you just need a 5gal bucket with a removable lid and some caulk, along with an extra hose and it saves your filter bags. I have 6+ garbage bags of sawdust so far and haven't replaced my Vac filter. Just a suggestion.
I had the same thought about all the dust swirling in your shop and how much you'd benefit from air filtration, but I didn't write a comment because like you said about the 'safety police' always chiming in and I didn't want you to think my comment was negative in any way. But I'm glad you've taken this first big step, you'll quickly forget about blowing your nose and seeing sawdust on the tissue. In the last year or so I stepped up my dust collection from a simple shopvac to using Oneida's "dust deputy jr." over a 5-gallon bucket, combined with our old Dyson vacuum that was broken beyond being useful in the house, and I house those two items vertically on a cart that I made from our old laminate countertops. I was inspired to make this after watching a similar project Jay Bates made around the same time. I recommend it, saves tons of effort emptying the shopvac canister and cleaning the shopvac filter. Anywho, I love your videos and have been a fan for years, you keep making them and I'll keep watching!
everything you do on your channel is always a huge inspiration to me, there isnt a single video i havent watched or disliked. keep up everything you do. looking forward to seeing the barn rebuild. I plan on building a shop that same size when i buy some land so its going to be exciting to see how yours turns out and give me ideas on how i can do mine.
Cody, you might consider using a 2" trailer hitch receiver to mount your Balder and other large items that you don't want permanently fixed to a bench. Fix the receiver anywhere you like and then mount the tool to a plate welded to the male end. I an loving the shop make over!
Woodturners generate lots of dust and particles from their lathe. Videos are out there about using a shop vac with a cyclone prefilter to reduce the load on the shop vac filter. The videos also show noise enclosures with serpentine exhaust paths that really reduce the noise...although your chop saw and table saw would still be noisy. I'd be happy to provide some representative links to these videos if you ask.
Really glad that you have air filtration now. Something you may wish to think about is maybe moving the system above the drill press that is somewhat "cozy" to an area below waist height near the main work area. That way any dust that is kicked up could get sucked in.
Hi Cody,
have a look at the traditional Swedish barns. My barn is built like a loghouse with solid rough sawn timber. Given that you got a sawmill you could saw all of them yourself - sure it will take a while, but watching you build stuff is the very reason I am watching ;-)
All the best,
John
Nice job Cody, I used the Delta small two bag vac system and ran flex hose to each tool with a simple gate to regulate the flow to each machine, put the unit in the corner and the hose where light and flexible. Much quitter than a shop vac and more efficient power wise. Just a thought. I like your thinking and your work enjoy your videos very much. You also got me up off my old butt and back in the sop. Thanks
Love the idea of the big shed, some old advice always pops back into my mind when discussing shed size, work out how big you think you need it, and then double it!
If you can have fresh air go through the shop it really helps. One fan blowing in one window and one blowing out another is optimal in warm weather. The vacuums are crazy loud. risking makes a small dust collector that isn't too pricy.
On your polebarn, fill in the windows with xxxx bracing for support and with 2 x 12 headers. Put a garage door for a car in one corner with 2 walls and ceiling, boxed-in. .Put x bracing in all corners and 2 x 12 headers over all doors and windows. It looks like your trusses may be too far apart. You may need to add more trusses between each one.
Just a little FYI on air scrubbers: Normally when running 2 in the same shop, they should be placed on opposite walls from each other, and blowing in opposite directions. This creates a circular air flow in the shop, which is much more efficient. Think cyclone vacuum. In your case, both blowing against the opposite wall will create turbulence, sort of like a river, with eddys and pools of moving and still air interspersed with turbulent air. You could probably mount these units vertically on the wall if needed for head room.
Think it's wise to go with the pole barn rebuild. You could extend an awning to store farm-type equipment and have ample interior room for the other needs. Also eventually capture rainwater from the metal roof if that is on the horizon. Good luck.
Cody before you go out and buy another shopvac buy a big garbage can and drill holes in it the size of the hose and put a wire screen on top of it so it will collect the sawdust and when its full you can throw it away or use it for something like putting it on spills in the garage or something my dad showed it to me and it is really effective on keeping the sawdust in it
Great move installing those filters Cody! Since you want to be portable with a vacuum for your saws/whatevers, maybe a small cart with the vac and a large bucket/dust deputy (or similar) separator. Save a ton of life on those hepa filters.
Air filtration systems are meant to be in a central location somewhat near a main work area. Up against the wall will impead its performance. Also, a simple one stage 3hp collector would be ideal for your setup, much better than a shop vac. They're very affordable.
Good luck and Gods speed with your future projects Cody !
You are Always in my prayers My Friend !
I hope the whole thing with getting a sponsor on your shop/garage/barn goes well Cody! What a blessing that could be for you and yours. I will have your situation in my prayers
Hey Cody! My comment is about dust collection. My wife and I do a fair share of woodworking in a small space like you. We use a portable table saw and portable compound mitre saw like you have there... and we previously used a shop-vac to draw dust from the saws, however we found that the filter on the shop-vac plugged rather quickly from all the fine dust and we'd lose suction. We have since remedied this problem by purchasing a Festool vacuum. You don't need to buy Festool saws to work with is vacuum(can be used with any tool brand) and it also has the remote power option that you mentioned which turns on the vacuum when you turn on the tool. Festool's filter system prevents premature suction loss... Oh, and they're MADE IN GERMANY!!
Awesome ideas for the shop! Can't wait to see the barn build. That will be a great help for you and your family. Always fun to come along and see the progress. Thanks for the videos.
Good to see that some regard for air quality has finally come to the fore. Those units can be mounted at any angle so why not 'french cleat ' to the wall and make them relocatable. Next, have you taken thought about introducing fresh air in or exhausting fumes when painting/staining. etc.Next, why not think outside the box, so to speak, cannot these things be installed outside? Having a few loops suspended across the ceiling (no trip ups from being on the floor)for the exhaust hoses to an outlet on the wall going outside to the exhaust unit.The hose is then wound up onto FCG (French Cleat Hanger). Fresh air can be redirected along the stove heater chimney to rewarm it if the outside is below normal.Remember, what you exhaust out of a space needs to be replaced(when exhausting) and if using fresh air introduction then a pressure relief needs to be allowed for.
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For max efficiency the fans should be in opposite corners facing the "same way" so that the air starts to circle the room ... hope you catch what I'm trying to say!
Enjoying this series so much , thanks for sharing!!
get two hoses for the shop vac and leave them attached to the tool. then plug the hose into the vac when you use the tool. one shop vac, easy set up and you could even run a hose outside from the discharge port on the back if you vac is set up with a port. I'm sure you could tee the hoses easily if using both tolls
Cody! Nice job with the dust collection and air filtration. Watching your workbench series, i was thinking 'man he needs to get some dust collection' especially with running the table saw ripping all that plywood. A couple suggestions if I may...
First, your air filtration will be more effective if they're working in unison to circulate. Ideally, you'd like to have one by the clamp rack blowing towards the entry door, and the other above where your wood stove was, blowing the opposite direction to create a circular swirl to the air.
Second, if you're looking for another shop vac, i just bought the 16 gal stainless Ridgid, and it's a beast... Definitely recommend it! Looks nice too.
Keep up the good work!
Just a thought about airflow. If you are concerned about maximizing the flow, would it be better to have one of the filters on the other side of the shop(window side)? And if a filter gets relocated, changing the direction of the discharge to maximize the flow inside the room? The shop looks great and I'm getting a lot of ideas for my build out....someday.
Love the longer videos! You're a part of my regular TV routine. I don't have a shop yet so I'm living vicariously through you. Appreciate it! 😃
I would go with a dedicated shop vac for each tool. You have mobile stands, so move outside when you can for major projects (so you don't fill up a HEPA bag with a bunch of chips unnecessarily).
And for you ceiling units... I've always heard to mount them such that they "swirl" the air around the space. So maybe rotate the first one you installed to be parallel to the "nice" wall and put the other above the wood stove to create the swirl?