Me: "Nice, Techmoan has a new Video up. Must watch right now!" [Video starts] Mat: "A couple of years ago I made video about VHD." Me: "Hm, I might wanna rewatch that video real quick as to not miss any information on VHD that might be relevant to this new video". [click link to VHD video in the info section] [VHD Video starts] Mat: "A year ago I made a video about CED." Me: "Oh my, this is going to be a LONG TH-cam Session"...
I have found that before watching a new Techmoan video, it is best practice to go back and watch all of his previous videos. Especially the ones with the puppets.
"the chances of a woman in her mid 50s watching this channel are low" Cue a loud "Oi!" from my wife, a woman in her mid 50s watching this channel. She still has her old Specify btw
Perhaps it was some Japanese variant of the MAC satellite TV transmission standard (MAC - Multiplexed Analogue Components), which could mean those VHS machines had satellite tuners built-in.
20:28 "Now, choose a club. (Beep) You have chosen a three wood. May I suggest a putter? (Beep) Three wood. Now enter the force of your swing. I suggest feather touch. (Beep, beep, beep) You have entered "power drive". Now, push seven eight seven to swing." (Beep beep beep)Ball is in...parking lot. Would you like to play again? (Beep) You have selected, "No.”
Love the shoutouts to YMO- amazing and made a big impact on music as a whole in the 80s in Japan, where Europe had Kraftwerk, Japan had YMO and they really did help to shape many genres that we know of today including but not limited to videogame music!
Because of the time they were successful they were associated with a few emerging formats. Lots of collectible items out there relating to the band. I have to keep vintage kit just to watch / listen to some things.
My mum is 63 and watched/thoroughly enjoyed your video! She also worked for EMI in London in the late 70's / early 80's and was aware of the VHD but said only select people were allowed to see it or enter the area it was worked on!
I think your replacement music made the game far more interesting. It was less like a boring golf game and more like a slow walk through a stylish mall in the 60's
This is my favourite Techmoan video in some time. Highway Star is amazing. It's like a glimpse into a parallel world where Tarantino made grindhouse video games. And I'm trying to work out whether the golf game had a VERY restricted set of playable strokes, or if the poor guy in the video had to spend weeks being filmed playing every possible shot before doing it all again and deliberately messing them all up for when the player hit the hazards. In reality it's almost certainly the former, although in my head it most definitely isn't.
The stuff in the segment starting around 17:00 : "Meruhen Denwa Bokkusu", "Märchen (fairy tale) Telephone Box", and the cartoon on the screen is "Arabian Naito Shindobatto no Bouken", "Arabian Nights: Sinbad's Adventure". The other titles are too small to read unfortunately.
if anyone else is wondering what the song the guy at 18:24 is singing is, it's Shikuramen no Kahori (The Scent of Cyclamen). yes, i typed in the Japanese lyrics and did a search. it looks like it was first released by Akira Fuse back in the mid-70s. you can search 布施明 シクラメンのかほり and see a live performance from 1975. quite a lovely song. also, 52-year-old woman here. *waves*
An interesting look at the forgotten predecessor to the DVD. One can only imagine if that format caught on, edging out other disc-based video media at the time. Thanks for a very informative video.
LOL... And I was going to make a joke about the music in that part that seemed like it came straight out of a eighties porn video. But that was really hilarious.
@@alsatusmd1A13 Hope so. Although it also seemed like she was looking for availability and reasonable prices depending on the amount of hotel rating stars per night... Technically she was making a price evaluator. The same as anyone does before buying, looking for the best prices.... But I also hope that she has chosen that hotel and stayed there at least one night.
Apparently it was an educational game, nothing to do with Alice from Alice in Wonderland, is another girl named Alice learning about basic chemistry and chemical reactions. www.generation-msx.nl/software/victor-co-of-japan-jvc/alice-in-chemical-reaction-alices-chemical-laboratory/373/
EMI is a name known across youtube for their viscous and ruthless copyright trolls. It's weird to think of them as important innovators dedicated to new technologies.
Wonder if it was emi that gave techmoan the copyright strike. And the eu now signed a law making it even worse. Everything has now to be censored and filtered . Thanks emi
EMI mostly doesn’t exist anymore. They got bought up by UMG (with some parts of EMI (mainly the Parlophone label) having to be sold to Warner Music in order to please regulators) a few years back.
my favorite part of this channel is the live clips of tech write ups @:50. periodicals from any source are hard enough to come by, let alone being able to find a source that specific. idk if techmoan has a library or literal stacks of japanese hobby mags from the last 30 years but however they do it, its pure gold. getting eyes on vintage articles *chef's kiss* itsa real deal gabagool
Wow two and a half gig sadly read only pressed so not so impressive. But imagine the amount of terrible FMV gaming that could have happened. Great video sir. Thank you for some more high quality edutainment.
Well researched video, excellent. You are quite right too that it was the rental companies that pushed VHS in the UK, at a time when video recorders were expensive and unreliable so lots of people rented them. Though Beta machines were also rented (and even rebadged under the rental company names), they were clearly pushing VHS machines and tapes most.
Amazing episode! Thank you for sharing these incredible finds. If you ever dump all the video off that demo disk, be sure to let us know as I would love to watch it from beginning to end. Also, how great is 80s hair? Fantastic!
Weirdly, the average pair of Asics sneakers costs pretty much the same in Tokyo today (that's exactly what I paid last month). Just goes to show how stagnant inflation has been here. Great video, as always!
Interesting story about Thorn EMI and the VHD. As you probably know, Thorn EMI was a home video distributor in the US after putting electronic stuff from around the world, it started with the home video craze. Beginning in 1981 right up until 1984, they put a series of UK and foreign films as well as cult films, family films, and B-movies. Right up until 1985, it became Thorn EMI/HBO Video where they put out newer material, as well as reissues of previous Thorn EMI Video library titles, by 1986, it became HBO Cannon Video where they put out the same, let alone the Cannon films, and finally by 1987 or 1988, it became HBO Video. I guess right before the acquisition, HBO was the first cable movie channel in the US to acquired Thorn EMI by around 1984 or 1985.
EMI was behind the record label that signed and issued most of the Beatles records. That must have made plenty of profits which they could used for expansion
Somewhat bizarrely, the first place I ever heard of the VHD disc system was in a 90s anime called Moldiver. I thought they'd made the thing up as a gag. Literally only discovered differently thanks to this channel. You ought to consider making the entirety of the demonstration disc available online somewhere, in proper interlaced PAL (or NTSC, whichever is applicable). For posterity. ;p
Asterra2 Raw bit stream also interesting for future digital archeology. Perhaps some way to seal the archive until the official current copyright end date, like other sealed records in places like the British Library.
Thank you for this amazing VHD history which I never knew it once existed. Our first JVC HR-3300 VHS cassette recorder that my dad purchased from a store in Edgware Road in London was in 1978 which we enjoyed for many years on till the VCD was born.
@AlexGRFan97 She was pretty well known in Brazil, Africa and somewhat in the US as well, but yeah people in UK usually don't remember her. She did try to reach the UK market. There is an interview of her talking about it on British television. You should check her other hit songs like "In the heat of the night" and "Heaven can wait". Pure 80's vibes and synths.
@@markpenrice6253 I remember both of them from the 80's but didn't know their names (I was just a little kid). Brings back memories, I think I still have a Snitta's video on a betamax tape somewhere.
AstronomyToday It kind of messes up a particular brain function that's already broken in true ADHD sufferers. There are about 4 different legal substances tested for this, and Ritalin is the most addictive. One of the others got caught in a testing SNAFU at a bad time, leaving a bad reputation with many doctors. So currently the two remaining substances compete for becoming the non addictive treatment option of choice. One competition factor is the effect of giving the drug to the thousands of kids misdiagnosed with ADHD as opposed to those with the actual disease.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 yeah, drugging perfectly fine kids to make them compliant, then they don't know poop when they graduate and are off the free supply of drugs.
Thank you so much for posting this Mat. I'm lucky enough to own a National DP-830 VHD player and a few movie discs. I shall definitely be on the look out for some demo discs now though.
despite being put out by Palace in the UK, Evil Dead was put out by Thorn/EMI in North America in the early 80s (at least my copy is from them) ***The More You Know***
Very interesting video! My NATIONAL DP-830 does exactly what you are showing with that PAL disc, except it does it on all of my Jp discs. I have not found a way to get it to work, but you have just given me a new area to check. Thanks!
Best quality video and information, as ever :) Your videos never arent a good watch!! This was so much fun, i had no idea of the excistence of this and your information was so thorough!
Hi I found this to be of great help, I have just purchased a Thorn 3D01 VHD player with several different demos and about 70 juke box discs ( it was bought as laserdisc lot ) learnt a lot, thanks
According to the Bank of England inflation calculator. £499 in 1981 as shown in the advert is the equivalent of £1879 in 2018. I also got my first video recorder from Rumbelows but by the end 1984 they were down to just £340. Of course people didn't have umpteen subscriptions for Satellite TV and Mobile phones back then.
It's a very simplistic analogue AM radio that uses either one (or a very small number of) transistor(s), or - hence the name - a germanium crystal and needle-point conductor (the combination of which forms a basic semiconductor and was indeed the inspiration for the construction of the first transistors) operating in place of it/them, as rudimentary discriminators and draws its power entirely from the aerial (thus works better on LW than MW or SW, and generally uses an extremely low quality but high-gain earpiece as its only output), as opposed to the valve-type amplifier radios that perform a similar task and can produce much louder output but require a relatively powerful source of electricity to run their circuitry. What else is there to tell? That's basically the entire story, short of a couple of tidbits such as the needle contact (and effective tuner) being called the Cat's Whisker, etc. All up you could go start to finish in about three minutes. That's about how long it took me to build a working one using a second-hand electronics workbench set I picked up during my schooldays, using the supplied instructions and integrated parts.
Thanks I live in the US and would find these sometimes at thrift stores (second hand stores) every great once and a while wondered what the story was behind them... When I asked my friends and their parents, No one seemed to know... (and if they did know there memory was very vague foggy, I couldn't get any consensuses what the format was even called, because the sleeves don't officially say unlike BETA, VHS, DVD, or LASER DISC) My father and I over rid the safety tabs on one and very carefully removed it from the case (when the shop owner wasn't looking) marveled at the disc inside being very careful not to touch the obvious reading surfaces and than replacing it back in the sleeve. James Rolfe (The Angry Video Game Nerd in the US / youtube personality) is the only other person I've ever seen cover these.
Thorn had a somewhat similar presence in Australia back then too. If you wanted to rent a TV or VCR, as was somewhat common at the time, then the dominant chain was Radio Rentals, owned by Thorn and renting out the company's own manufactured products. So in practice an equipment manufacturer was also in the rental business. They were also a big name in lighting at least in this part of the world. There's still a Thorn branded fluorescent tube in my shed today.
Im just entirely amazed. The 1st VHD disc video I saw the Convoy and I got amazed that that movie is there and disappointed that i never get to see it. Then I saw The VHD video for the us and notice the still from this video from as a recap. (I didn't see this video until now) Then I went into this video and oh my god there it is Techmoan:"the only pal VHD with a full movie" I think my luck just ran out at this point. Im just so glad to see that.
Regarding that European actoress around the 16 minute mark, is that possibly Sheri Harell. She's famous (among Honda City car enthusiasts), for the 1980's Japanese TV advert for the Honda City car that had the 7 speed HYPERSHIFT CONTROLLER electronic overdrive transmission (actually underdrive to be precise, I think). Here is an upload of the fantastically cheezy 1980's Japanese car advert. th-cam.com/video/FchqEmK8QEw/w-d-xo.html
One of your best videos to date. If you ever run out of defunct media formats, you could make a series on defunct British companies :-( I never realised Thorn EMI was so big, despite having a friend who worked for them.It would be interesting to know the respective market shares for Karaoke. Back when it started to become big in Europe, every system, including all the discs, I saw was Pioneer laserdisc.
anyone notice that at 33:15 in the article, under the picture, its written "Pioneer also presses a series of hard-core sex discs, which have the added appeal to some customers of slow motion and a very clear freeze-frame!" ?
The 2-frame stutter (a variation of which also sometimes affected CAV Laserdiscs and the "true freezeframe" VHS decks, when showing TV material rather than filmed) would seem to make that claim rather fragile, unless they actually encoded the slow-mo right onto the disc (duplicating each frame so that when shown as rapidly alternating pairs they appeared still) and actually played back at 2x speed for normal viewing...
, i worked for thorn homserve which was radio rentals service division, my crt and vcr skills obv not appreciated all these years later lol as an aside thorn made a massive blunder as they owned nokia, it mostly made crt tvs encrypted for use in hotels, they had only started dabbling in mobile phone technology when thorn sold its controlling share to matsushita (panasonic) and then obv the mobile revolution happened, talk about a bad business decision ;)
thorn owned 70ish percent, sanyo owned the rest, i think panasonic then bought sanyo out too and owned it all, im unclear as to what happened after that as im only relaying what i know from company newsletters at the time bud :)
Fantastic...I feel your pain with the missing disc, if it should turn up in one of my trawls...I will send it on to you. 10 - 20...goto 10...brilliant, takes me right back to secondary school and those BBC computers that we had...the colour ones that looked great but no teacher knew how to use them...Yellow Magic Orchestra...wow, touch! nice one
Nice research here! I love these videos. I guess people had to spend a fortune back in the days to get all this equipment; a 20 inch colour tv with remote could cost you at least 500 pounds, samen for the MSX etc. That might have contributed to less interest among the public since a regular income per month was about the same. Seeing these promotional stuff from the 80ties is nice, kind of cute. Bring on the next episode!
Yes but no one was spending money on satellite TV and mobile phone subscriptions etc and houses were cheap. The people I bought my first house from in 1986 had a £600 Panasonic VCR in a £24000 house !
13:56 It's a really crazy hairstyle even for standards that existed in the eighties, but apparently it had a clear intention: Demonstrate the sharpness of the image in a VHD video. (Remember, is a Demo Disc destined to be projected in electrical appliance stores or in shopping centers or maybe projected in business meetings looking for markets in other countries.) The way the camera focuses on it, the way backlighting applies to the hairstyle in all her shots. It's an indirect way of saying: *_"Hey, you can see it, right?, You will not be able to see it so clearly on a VHS or Betamax tape, now look all things that VHD can do but videotape can't.”_* But sharpness and clarity (for the end user) also depends on how the original footage was processed or through which Transfer processes went through. (mostly Telecine since the image was not retouched and /or digitally restored until the early nineties)
Ahh that 80's cringe and silliness, when i saw that clip when she was calling and having info printed, i just couldn't hold it anymore and bursted with laughter like supernova , rolling on floor. Great video sir. keep'em comming.
“Unlimited potential” = the marketing department doesn’t know what anyone would use this for.
Me: "Nice, Techmoan has a new Video up. Must watch right now!"
[Video starts]
Mat: "A couple of years ago I made video about VHD."
Me: "Hm, I might wanna rewatch that video real quick as to not miss any information on VHD that might be relevant to this new video".
[click link to VHD video in the info section]
[VHD Video starts]
Mat: "A year ago I made a video about CED."
Me: "Oh my, this is going to be a LONG TH-cam Session"...
I love that rabbit hole TH-camrs send you down sometimes.
*LRM12o8:* I think you've nailed it.
Still, it means the enjoyment will last hours rather than minutes.
I have found that before watching a new Techmoan video, it is best practice to go back and watch all of his previous videos.
Especially the ones with the puppets.
And then, 8 minutes into the CED video...
"I made a video all about Laserdisc in 2015."
It got longer.
Oh.
I'm a 50 yr old woman and this is one of my favorite channels.
Me to
@@egsab3You're a 50 year-old woman? ;)
@@rayfenwick8761 I'm not
But you think 😂😂😂
Whatever , I'm close to 50 , and although watching this
But not a woman
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Haha, knew he'd be wrong on that, everyone loves Techmoan!
You are abnormal. Statistically speaking.
"the chances of a woman in her mid 50s watching this channel are low"
Cue a loud "Oi!" from my wife, a woman in her mid 50s watching this channel. She still has her old Specify btw
I’m a mid-50's woman, and I love this channel ❤️ Especially the retro stuff like this 👍 Keep plying the Tech, Matt 😉
That's girl has a pretty crazy hairstyle even for the 1980s.
That might be so but I'll bet you'd do anything just to at least "have" that hair David. XD
Was that even a style? As much as it was morning bedhead...
She's breathtaking though.. total bombshell
Get that London Look...she has the teeth for it too :)
The 80's were a scarey place for sure ;)
2.54 GB of (even read-only) data storage is really impressive for the early/mid-80s.
@@dgpsf Marketing people in 1981 probably wouldn't know anything about bytes. I think it's just a misspelling.
Considering disks only had 360k or 720k yeah, this is impressive.
Impressive.....Most impressive...
@@herbiehusker1889 then if there was a writable disk it might even have at the very least 1.2 GiB (assuming its BYTES not BITS)
@@dgpsf A CAV laserdisc used for data (LV-ROM) stored 324 MBytes per side, so I'd say you're right.
Man the Japanese know how to name things,
‘DiscLord’
National (Panasonic) called their VHS products "MacLord", which made even less sense (I can't find an explanation for the "Mac" part)
Exactly what I was about to comment...
Discord
Sounds like a SyFy movie title:
D I S C L O R D
Perhaps it was some Japanese variant of the MAC satellite TV transmission standard (MAC - Multiplexed Analogue Components), which could mean those VHS machines had satellite tuners built-in.
20:28
"Now, choose a club. (Beep)
You have chosen a three wood. May I suggest a putter? (Beep)
Three wood.
Now enter the force of your swing. I suggest feather touch. (Beep, beep, beep)
You have entered "power drive". Now, push seven eight seven to swing." (Beep beep beep)Ball is in...parking lot. Would you like to play again? (Beep)
You have selected, "No.”
Haha, there's a Simpsons ref for most things in life!
@@eddhick Simpsons did it
K
Thats 'Golf' We ran that in 1981 on a DEC VAX machine
Love the shoutouts to YMO- amazing and made a big impact on music as a whole in the 80s in Japan, where Europe had Kraftwerk, Japan had YMO and they really did help to shape many genres that we know of today including but not limited to videogame music!
Because of the time they were successful they were associated with a few emerging formats. Lots of collectible items out there relating to the band. I have to keep vintage kit just to watch / listen to some things.
Would be wonderful to get one of the complete sets with the shirts, but I really doubt it would fit me! Haha
My mum is 63 and watched/thoroughly enjoyed your video! She also worked for EMI in London in the late 70's / early 80's and was aware of the VHD but said only select people were allowed to see it or enter the area it was worked on!
24:51 Haven't seen such a good acting since last Techmoan Mission Impossible tape video.
You must find this model and interview her about working on that demo.
It would be interesting if you could track that girl down and interview her to see how and where the recording was actually done.
I truly appreciate you making your videos. Always interesting and fun to watch. Thanks so much.
Never in the history of human existence has someone gone to so much effort to watch "Convoy".
I think your replacement music made the game far more interesting.
It was less like a boring golf game and more like a slow walk through a stylish mall in the 60's
I was just re-watching some of the Technology Connections vids on CD and Laserdisc, and this pops up. Good timing.
Be honest... After his most recent video did you look up prices for radiant control toasters too?
@@Sammie1053 Maybe. lol
This is my favourite Techmoan video in some time. Highway Star is amazing. It's like a glimpse into a parallel world where Tarantino made grindhouse video games.
And I'm trying to work out whether the golf game had a VERY restricted set of playable strokes, or if the poor guy in the video had to spend weeks being filmed playing every possible shot before doing it all again and deliberately messing them all up for when the player hit the hazards. In reality it's almost certainly the former, although in my head it most definitely isn't.
The stuff in the segment starting around 17:00 : "Meruhen Denwa Bokkusu", "Märchen (fairy tale) Telephone Box", and the cartoon on the screen is "Arabian Naito Shindobatto no Bouken", "Arabian Nights: Sinbad's Adventure". The other titles are too small to read unfortunately.
Soon only the display of the emi logo will cause a copyright strike.
Soon uploading almost anything to TH-cam, even for a fraction of a second, will cause a copyright strike.
if anyone else is wondering what the song the guy at 18:24 is singing is, it's Shikuramen no Kahori (The Scent of Cyclamen). yes, i typed in the Japanese lyrics and did a search. it looks like it was first released by Akira Fuse back in the mid-70s. you can search 布施明 シクラメンのかほり and see a live performance from 1975. quite a lovely song.
also, 52-year-old woman here. *waves*
I'm in my late 50,s and I watch everything you make.
An interesting look at the forgotten predecessor to the DVD. One can only imagine if that format caught on, edging out other disc-based video media at the time. Thanks for a very informative video.
25:16 (police) keep them talking, another 10 seconds and we'll have the kidnappers location...
Hahaha
LOL... And I was going to make a joke about the music in that part that seemed like it came straight out of a eighties porn video. But that was really hilarious.
I hope to God that section was not simply an excuse to have the model prank call the hotel and she actually stayed in that room.
@@alsatusmd1A13 Hope so. Although it also seemed like she was looking for availability and reasonable prices depending on the amount of hotel rating stars per night... Technically she was making a price evaluator. The same as anyone does before buying, looking for the best prices....
But I also hope that she has chosen that hotel and stayed there at least one night.
@@Nolroa well, she was booking the hotel room just for one night. 😉
When you added a murderous android clip with that "AHD" logo, I was sure that some sort of a VHD update is on its way. Glad to see it!
Great video - old tech nerds like myself appreciate your output Sir
That golf game is basically Lee Carvallo's Putting Challenge from the Simpsons.
I wonder what "Alice in Chemical Reaction" at 18:47 is like?
Apparently it was an educational game, nothing to do with Alice from Alice in Wonderland, is another girl named Alice learning about basic chemistry and chemical reactions.
www.generation-msx.nl/software/victor-co-of-japan-jvc/alice-in-chemical-reaction-alices-chemical-laboratory/373/
"you have selected: no"
It was so ahead of it's time, it combined Alice in Chains with My Chemical Romance, and walla!
Did they have BoneStorm on the system, too?
@@beitie "walla?" Are you an Australian trying to write 'voilà!' (or even 'voila').
EMI is a name known across youtube for their viscous and ruthless copyright trolls. It's weird to think of them as important innovators dedicated to new technologies.
Wonder if it was emi that gave techmoan the copyright strike.
And the eu now signed a law making it even worse. Everything has now to be censored and filtered . Thanks emi
Thick and gooey copyright trolls are the worst kind!
DingDongBells - ‘viscous’? That’s a sticky situation!
EMI mostly doesn’t exist anymore. They got bought up by UMG (with some parts of EMI (mainly the Parlophone label) having to be sold to Warner Music in order to please regulators) a few years back.
@@MysteryMii I think sony owns some parts of it as well.
Would you like to play Birdie Try again?
You have selected, 'No'.
Ball... In... Parkin lot
*P O W E R D R I V E*
LOL you have selected POWERDRIVE
So happy you did the first video after I bugged you a ton on Twitter!
But I had no idea there was a UK version!!
my favorite part of this channel is the live clips of tech write ups @:50. periodicals from any source are hard enough to come by, let alone being able to find a source that specific. idk if techmoan has a library or literal stacks of japanese hobby mags from the last 30 years but however they do it, its pure gold. getting eyes on vintage articles *chef's kiss* itsa real deal gabagool
DISC LORD mother, mother...
You've taken it on the chin quite a few times with your eBay purchases- good on you for chuckling it off so well!
I haven’t laughed this much about an old tech video in a long time. Very enjoyable video!
Wow two and a half gig sadly read only pressed so not so impressive. But imagine the amount of terrible FMV gaming that could have happened.
Great video sir. Thank you for some more high quality edutainment.
2.5 Giga BITS not Giga Bytes!
A whole 317.5mb!
Atak Snajpera I deliberately left out the GB (gigabytes) and left it as gig as this was naturally a light hearted comment.
@@ataksnajpera gigabytes
Josuel Servin So half a video CD?
The musical score is a delight!
Well researched video, excellent. You are quite right too that it was the rental companies that pushed VHS in the UK, at a time when video recorders were expensive and unreliable so lots of people rented them. Though Beta machines were also rented (and even rebadged under the rental company names), they were clearly pushing VHS machines and tapes most.
36 mins of Yootuubes on a product I never owned, hardly remember, did not care for then, still dont care for now ........
....... *LOVE IT* !!
Amazing episode! Thank you for sharing these incredible finds. If you ever dump all the video off that demo disk, be sure to let us know as I would love to watch it from beginning to end. Also, how great is 80s hair? Fantastic!
The model at 16:18 - stunning!
NOICE
I predict the VHD demo disc will turn out to be an unlabelled copy of Physical.
@@TerminalWorld Same thing really th-cam.com/video/t7Vebe--uOw/w-d-xo.html.
@@noobiesmurf link doesn't work, UMG strikes again.
@@LairdDeimos works fine in Australia, where are you?
Murcia.
Or the disc from the empty caddy....
Weirdly, the average pair of Asics sneakers costs pretty much the same in Tokyo today (that's exactly what I paid last month). Just goes to show how stagnant inflation has been here. Great video, as always!
Wasn't there a notorious period of deflation in the late 90s/early 2000s even?
@@markpenrice6253 Yes indeed - the end of the bubble period here. Just before my time. I moved to Tokyo in 2005.
Now you got me caught on to what the VHD disc in the clear case would show! Make it sooner pleaseeee~~
Interesting story about Thorn EMI and the VHD. As you probably know, Thorn EMI was a home video distributor in the US after putting electronic stuff from around the world, it started with the home video craze. Beginning in 1981 right up until 1984, they put a series of UK and foreign films as well as cult films, family films, and B-movies. Right up until 1985, it became Thorn EMI/HBO Video where they put out newer material, as well as reissues of previous Thorn EMI Video library titles, by 1986, it became HBO Cannon Video where they put out the same, let alone the Cannon films, and finally by 1987 or 1988, it became HBO Video. I guess right before the acquisition, HBO was the first cable movie channel in the US to acquired Thorn EMI by around 1984 or 1985.
EMI was behind the record label that signed and issued most of the Beatles records. That must have made plenty of profits which they could used for expansion
yes i've got Deadly Intruder from Thorn/EMI which still has not gotten a DVD or streaming release.
Every time your tefifon "theme song" makes a cameo in a new video it makes me smile :)
Great piece again :) and thanks for mentioning Yellow Magic Orchestra "release" on VHD! :) didn't know that one exists....
jerometv there’s a commercial release of that title on VHD and also VHS. It was later included on DVD releases.
@@rymerster Thanks a lot for the info :) checking it out, but its cool to see it on VHD too :)
Somewhat bizarrely, the first place I ever heard of the VHD disc system was in a 90s anime called Moldiver. I thought they'd made the thing up as a gag. Literally only discovered differently thanks to this channel.
You ought to consider making the entirety of the demonstration disc available online somewhere, in proper interlaced PAL (or NTSC, whichever is applicable). For posterity. ;p
Asterra2 Raw bit stream also interesting for future digital archeology. Perhaps some way to seal the archive until the official current copyright end date, like other sealed records in places like the British Library.
as someone who watches anime on VHD, this was a much appreciated video.
I worked at the Blackburn plant for a few months but it was after VHDs were made, they only did CDs when I was there.
OH MY GOD! If someone has that demo VHD, please send it to him!
I imagine it probably got left in a machine which then got thrown away.
Mr. Moan, just wanted to comment that I really appreciate all the research and work you put into these vids Sir.
13:05 - My god, it's like something out of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
This is fascinating. I have to say, this channel and Ashens are two of my favorite channels. Great content. Cheers y'all.
Wow! I would love to have that VHD with the Yellow Magic Orchestra sampler!
Thank you for this amazing VHD history which I never knew it once existed. Our first JVC HR-3300 VHS cassette recorder that my dad purchased from a store in Edgware Road in London was in 1978 which we enjoyed for many years on till the VCD was born.
This man is very classic, and gentleman !
Oh that YMO disk is one of the coolest things you have ever featured. That is SO COOL
Wow didn't you recognize the Arabesque main singer? She turned into a very popular pop singer of the 80's - Sandra.
I wish I could turn into sandra.
@AlexGRFan97 She was pretty well known in Brazil, Africa and somewhat in the US as well, but yeah people in UK usually don't remember her. She did try to reach the UK market. There is an interview of her talking about it on British television. You should check her other hit songs like "In the heat of the night" and "Heaven can wait". Pure 80's vibes and synths.
@AlexGRFan97 Here's an example th-cam.com/video/ss7_U0vcrUo/w-d-xo.html
Never heard of her... presumably she was very popular in Germany, but nowhere else. Are you familiar with Sinitta, or Tiffany?
@@markpenrice6253 I remember both of them from the 80's but didn't know their names (I was just a little kid). Brings back memories, I think I still have a Snitta's video on a betamax tape somewhere.
Thank you for putting a link in the description of the comedy edit.
There was also the ADHD disc. Very interesting idea but it failed because
Very good! Lmao 😂
T damn ritalin stole another mind...
When I can`t stop fiddlin, I just take my Ritalin....
AstronomyToday It kind of messes up a particular brain function that's already broken in true ADHD sufferers. There are about 4 different legal substances tested for this, and Ritalin is the most addictive. One of the others got caught in a testing SNAFU at a bad time, leaving a bad reputation with many doctors. So currently the two remaining substances compete for becoming the non addictive treatment option of choice. One competition factor is the effect of giving the drug to the thousands of kids misdiagnosed with ADHD as opposed to those with the actual disease.
@@johnfrancisdoe1563 yeah, drugging perfectly fine kids to make them compliant, then they don't know poop when they graduate and are off the free supply of drugs.
Thank you so much for posting this Mat. I'm lucky enough to own a National DP-830 VHD player and a few movie discs. I shall definitely be on the look out for some demo discs now though.
despite being put out by Palace in the UK, Evil Dead was put out by Thorn/EMI in North America in the early 80s (at least my copy is from them)
***The More You Know***
Very interesting video! My NATIONAL DP-830 does exactly what you are showing with that PAL disc, except it does it on all of my Jp discs. I have not found a way to get it to work, but you have just given me a new area to check. Thanks!
I dunno, all this talk of combining computers with video and communications, it all seems utterly absurd!!! :P
Oh, wait.................
This thing is pretty genius for its day. Love the combination of overlays and real video. I'm surprised these things didn't take off!
24:51 classic screen acting "talking on the phone" - watch the head and subtle eye movements 🤗
Wow! This was a great one! I really appreciate how far you took this project!
Okay that massive terminal with the comedy phone and built in fax is the most aggressively 1980's thing I've ever seen AND I LOVE IT. I want 10
It almost seems like something out of Look Around You, doesn't it.
Best quality video and information, as ever :) Your videos never arent a good watch!! This was so much fun, i had no idea of the excistence of this and your information was so thorough!
You know that reminds me of a CD but on vinyl and that's pretty cool 😎 stuff!!!
Hi I found this to be of great help, I have just purchased a Thorn 3D01 VHD player with several different demos and about 70 juke box discs ( it was bought as laserdisc lot ) learnt a lot, thanks
We had a Thorn-branded VHS video recorder, bought from Rumbelows I believe.
According to the Bank of England inflation calculator. £499 in 1981 as shown in the advert is the equivalent of £1879 in 2018. I also got my first video recorder from Rumbelows but by the end 1984 they were down to just £340. Of course people didn't have umpteen subscriptions for Satellite TV and Mobile phones back then.
Brilliant work, absolutely fascinating and hilarious! One of your best vids!
Could you make a video on the crystal radio? Their is a lot of videos about how to make them, but not much information beyond that.
It's a very simplistic analogue AM radio that uses either one (or a very small number of) transistor(s), or - hence the name - a germanium crystal and needle-point conductor (the combination of which forms a basic semiconductor and was indeed the inspiration for the construction of the first transistors) operating in place of it/them, as rudimentary discriminators and draws its power entirely from the aerial (thus works better on LW than MW or SW, and generally uses an extremely low quality but high-gain earpiece as its only output), as opposed to the valve-type amplifier radios that perform a similar task and can produce much louder output but require a relatively powerful source of electricity to run their circuitry. What else is there to tell? That's basically the entire story, short of a couple of tidbits such as the needle contact (and effective tuner) being called the Cat's Whisker, etc. All up you could go start to finish in about three minutes. That's about how long it took me to build a working one using a second-hand electronics workbench set I picked up during my schooldays, using the supplied instructions and integrated parts.
Thanks I live in the US and would find these sometimes at thrift stores (second hand stores) every great once and a while wondered what the story was behind them... When I asked my friends and their parents, No one seemed to know... (and if they did know there memory was very vague foggy, I couldn't get any consensuses what the format was even called, because the sleeves don't officially say unlike BETA, VHS, DVD, or LASER DISC) My father and I over rid the safety tabs on one and very carefully removed it from the case (when the shop owner wasn't looking) marveled at the disc inside being very careful not to touch the obvious reading surfaces and than replacing it back in the sleeve. James Rolfe (The Angry Video Game Nerd in the US / youtube personality) is the only other person I've ever seen cover these.
Excellent video, I felt like I'm living in 80tis for 35 minutes.
Thorn had a somewhat similar presence in Australia back then too. If you wanted to rent a TV or VCR, as was somewhat common at the time, then the dominant chain was Radio Rentals, owned by Thorn and renting out the company's own manufactured products. So in practice an equipment manufacturer was also in the rental business.
They were also a big name in lighting at least in this part of the world. There's still a Thorn branded fluorescent tube in my shed today.
Dry and slow in places? My kind of video!
Im just entirely amazed.
The 1st VHD disc video I saw the Convoy and I got amazed that that movie is there and disappointed that i never get to see it.
Then I saw The VHD video for the us and notice the still from this video from as a recap. (I didn't see this video until now)
Then I went into this video and oh my god there it is
Techmoan:"the only pal VHD with a full movie"
I think my luck just ran out at this point. Im just so glad to see that.
Regarding that European actoress around the 16 minute mark, is that possibly Sheri Harell. She's famous (among Honda City car enthusiasts), for the 1980's Japanese TV advert for the Honda City car that had the 7 speed HYPERSHIFT CONTROLLER electronic overdrive transmission (actually underdrive to be precise, I think). Here is an upload of the fantastically cheezy 1980's Japanese car advert.
th-cam.com/video/FchqEmK8QEw/w-d-xo.html
No, their teeth are different. Honda model has straight (or straightened) teeth while this girl has uneven teeth.
BRILLIANT ! Thanks for such a superb explanation of an important but forgotten technology.
Female model on 16:16 looks very much alike to Deborah Ann Gaetano, female model from british QVC Channel.
Not really
Thanks Techmoan your videos are awesome as usual!
"I get paid and get a free trip to Japan and all I have to do is some stupid promotional thing? Sign me up!" - That lady, probably
One of your best videos to date. If you ever run out of defunct media formats, you could make a series on defunct British companies :-( I never realised Thorn EMI was so big, despite having a friend who worked for them.It would be interesting to know the respective market shares for Karaoke. Back when it started to become big in Europe, every system, including all the discs, I saw was Pioneer laserdisc.
16:15 Yes, I have feelings for that model. too! 😂
That tourist information kiosk with the fax machine is awesome! Exactly what I thought the future was gonna be in the ‘80s.
anyone notice that at 33:15 in the article, under the picture, its written "Pioneer also presses a series of hard-core sex discs, which have the added appeal to some customers of slow motion and a very clear freeze-frame!" ?
The 2-frame stutter (a variation of which also sometimes affected CAV Laserdiscs and the "true freezeframe" VHS decks, when showing TV material rather than filmed) would seem to make that claim rather fragile, unless they actually encoded the slow-mo right onto the disc (duplicating each frame so that when shown as rapidly alternating pairs they appeared still) and actually played back at 2x speed for normal viewing...
Really good video thanks. I enjoy seeing the tech from that time :) the what could have beens. good job as always!
, i worked for thorn homserve which was radio rentals service division, my crt and vcr skills obv not appreciated all these years later lol as an aside thorn made a massive blunder as they owned nokia, it mostly made crt tvs encrypted for use in hotels, they had only started dabbling in mobile phone technology when thorn sold its controlling share to matsushita (panasonic) and then obv the mobile revolution happened, talk about a bad business decision ;)
gimble So was it Panasonic who handed control to Microsoft? Almost as bad as how Sony is running Ericsson mobile phones.
thorn owned 70ish percent, sanyo owned the rest, i think panasonic then bought sanyo out too and owned it all, im unclear as to what happened after that as im only relaying what i know from company newsletters at the time bud :)
Thorn Homeserve i knew it well. I was a RR Employee...
Fantastic...I feel your pain with the missing disc, if it should turn up in one of my trawls...I will send it on to you. 10 - 20...goto 10...brilliant, takes me right back to secondary school and those BBC computers that we had...the colour ones that looked great but no teacher knew how to use them...Yellow Magic Orchestra...wow, touch! nice one
Got to the end of the video looked at how much time was left and became very sad that there wasn't a puppet sketch :( I love those things.
Nice research here! I love these videos. I guess people had to spend a fortune back in the days to get all this equipment; a 20 inch colour tv with remote could cost you at least 500 pounds, samen for the MSX etc. That might have contributed to less interest among the public since a regular income per month was about the same. Seeing these promotional stuff from the 80ties is nice, kind of cute. Bring on the next episode!
Yes but no one was spending money on satellite TV and mobile phone subscriptions etc and houses were cheap. The people I bought my first house from in 1986 had a £600 Panasonic VCR in a £24000 house !
13:56 It's a really crazy hairstyle even for standards that existed in the eighties, but apparently it had a clear intention: Demonstrate the sharpness of the image in a VHD video. (Remember, is a Demo Disc destined to be projected in electrical appliance stores or in shopping centers or maybe projected in business meetings looking for markets in other countries.)
The way the camera focuses on it, the way backlighting applies to the hairstyle in all her shots. It's an indirect way of saying:
*_"Hey, you can see it, right?, You will not be able to see it so clearly on a VHS or Betamax tape, now look all things that VHD can do but videotape can't.”_*
But sharpness and clarity (for the end user) also depends on how the original footage was processed or through which Transfer processes went through. (mostly Telecine since the image was not retouched and /or digitally restored until the early nineties)
Oh wow. As a former Thorn EMI employee i will be taking a good look at this later..Techmoan you are a Legend...
Radio Rentals still operates in Australia and rent out Thorn Branded TVs 👍
SevelRomanov After being bought by a competing rental company.
Used to work for RR in the UK..Great Days
So many names from my childhood. I was only 3 in 1982 but those names stayed around for quite some time.
Definitely one mid 50s woman watching this...
Ahh that 80's cringe and silliness, when i saw that clip when she was calling and having info printed, i just couldn't hold it anymore and bursted with laughter like supernova , rolling on floor.
Great video sir. keep'em comming.
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