Iowa Carcass feat. @ettingermentum | Chapo Trap House
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- Episode 798 - Iowa Carcass feat. @ettingermentum (1/15/24)
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Well, here we are, Iowa Caucus day 2024. Considering we all took several points of permanent sanity damage this time 4 years ago, what’s insane this year is how on rails this whole thing is. Nonetheless, our elections correspondent Josh (@ettingermentum) returns to update us on the state of the races for 2024. We look at how Biden’s long-term hyper-commitment to Israel affects his chances, Trump’s advantages and disadvantages in his ‘24 campaign, the RFK Jr. of it all, and the race for #2 between the rest of the GOP candidates..
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“I support strong nuclear force. Not a big fan of weak nuclear force, folks.”
The game Frostpunk was about the Iowa primary
this comment section is like 2016 all over again
remember in 2020 when will matt and felix (and he who cannot be mentioned) all were smugly saying that if the dems needed the left to win and that defeating trump was a moral obligation, that they needed to vote for bernie
then that turned out to be completely untrue, biden won anyway, and bernie supported him which surprised them despite nearly a half a century of bernie's willingness to get a single thing done as a politician
guys i'm starting to think the epic trustfunder podcast leftist guys aren't political geniuses, even if they are legitimately 100 times funnier than liberals
I like to believe Matt isn't taking time from the show to recover from mysterious ill defined sickness, but has in fact, perfected his Sliders remote control, and is currently hopping through a multiverse of alternative, what-if histories.
finally someone brought up the weird magnets reference from trump's speech. How did everyone else miss that, and what the fuck does it have to do with john deere?
You show me a magnet with water on it and I'll show you the Brooklyn Bridge ok pal?
@@justcommenting4981 is that also from a ICP song?
He's delusional, it has nothing to do with anything. People ignore that half the time Trump can't string together a coherent sentence. He does dunk on people in a very funny way occasionally though
@@tite93 there was a cult in my neighborhood years ago, and its leader would talk exactly like trump does. he would have his laptop up on the podium and surf the internet while he did his sermon, make random stream of conscious comments, and his followers would just eat it up.
If there’s one thing I disagree with the boys, I really don’t think most people even remember the pull out in Afghanistan and it’s not that big a deal, but I’m not a pollster
Literally no one remembers it except people that are very tuned into international politics. Which is obviously not the majority of voters
it’s like the #9 conservative talking point
Probably the reason they mention it is because it was the first time Biden's approval rating really crashed. He's never recovered from Afghanistan, even if most of those voters today might not remember why they started disliking him.
It’s been buried IMO, ever since they got distracted by that one trans woman who got paid to drink a Bud Light.
A lot of jingling keys this year.
this election is the most deflated, uninspired, and kangaroo court election i’ve ever lived through. hell, even 2004 was juicy between kerry and bush and 2012 was a tea party year. it is remarkable how absolutely lifeless this election is.
It's the least important election of our lifetimes
Only Trump can keep America afloat
stop investing in federal politics
Deflated, uninspired and lifeless, just like the two geezers running for prez.
@@TurtleChad1
Yeah that's what we need. This shit country continuing to limp along as it is with no structural change.
Always a delight to be delivered a fresh, steaming chapo.
Does Trump like Broadway or does he just like Andrew Lloyd Webber? His big thing is for people to be impressed with him and going to a Webber musical is a show of status, certainly more than, say, Avenue Q or Rent, which I'll guarantee you he hasn't seen. The only other Broadway show I can think of him seeing was Will Rodgers Follies, but only because Marla Maples was in it.
Spot on! 😆
Webber was in his building right?
It’s probably just people who gave him free tickets. Which might just be Webber
musical theater is the mcdonalds of culture and lloyd webber is the value menu (i have listened to the evita, phantom, and jcs obc albums 10 million times each, ba da ba pa baaa)
Mentioning that terrible Mos Def album with half life 2 brought back some primordial lizard memories.
We love our Matty boy!
the walder frey comparison was amazing
"I think it's about time we stop [...] apologizing for our support for Israel. There's no apology to be made! None! It is the best 3 billion dollar investment we make! Were there not an Israel, the United States of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region"
-Joe Biden (1986)
They should just go back to the "protecting her interests in the region" line. Declare Israel to be an American outpost. The current morality argument is what makes people question things.
@@utkarsh2746 yes. "outpost" indeed! 🧐
"If His Majesty the Sultan were to give us Palestine, we could in return undertake to regulate the whole finances of Turkey. We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism [...]"
-Theodor Herzl in "The Jewish State" (1896)
Whoops!
Let's bring the "civilization as opposed to barbarism" line too. It is obvious that that is how many people want to justify the killing of children, with zero self-awareness of what they are asking for. @@joeyrufo
Trump talking about the civil war made me furious that Matt isn't on this episode. He fired off like it's Red Dead Redemption when he heard about this.
Pretty sure the primary motovation for the attack on houtis is to stop them from interfering with my Amazon orders (European here)
Also global food, petroleum, and fertilizer shipments, but those probably aren't important
What are you ordering thru Amazon that would travel thru there? Instead of joking, you could try and be informed.
New Hampshire is a place that drives you insane. Like living there almost drove me the closest I've been to suicide. I completely broke down. That is the kind of voter you are dealing with.
Where are you now, is it better?
@@bensonchannel8676 MA, yes but only because I’m living at home being broke as shit
@@Hamun002Fish folk. Deep ones returned to the land.
Whats so bad about it?
@@gn8437 if you don’t particularly enjoy the great outdoors it’s basically impossible to really build up a network. Even with in-laws and me doing my best to get down to PA to see other friends I just really lost touch.
Mos Def sang on Charlie Hunter's album "Songs from the Analog Playground." Very good use of your grandparents' iTunes gift card.
Has there been any update about Matt and his family?
He's been at home for a while now, in recovery. He's expected to return to the show but *when* is up in the air
Jesus these redditors in the comments, reddit on you nerds.
The best part was when Will got the past participle of 'squish' as 'skwoosen'!
squeeze... squoze... to have squozen with the judgement of god
Katt Williams go on Chapo!
Is there some way his plane could have a oopsy or am-track hits him?
MICHIGAN MENTIONED
I'm addicted to this dude's substack
"And then he walks into a wall"
My little hole smells putrid 😅
The Houthis are the greatest heroes of the Muslim world, maybe of the entire world. They are absolutely amazing.
Fremen shit.
They're so great enslaving people
Didnt they literally bring back slavery?
@@Mezzo396 yea, Israeli business interests are getting owned.
@@justcommenting4981 Wat?
Demo team has no steam in his/their sails. It's all Flash and glitter in the Bed Pan.
Trump is gonna be cool right up until I'm in a camp.
You live in america stop you people including the politicians are too lazy with no actual ideological differences. Stop larping like you're gonna be put in a camp your're not a leftist.
lol you ain’t Bobby Sands NO ONE IS GOING TO A CAMP
Did he put you in a camp during his first administration?
Yes
@@julymagnus493lol right? Trump will do what he did in his first term. Pass a bill calling Fort Bragg child traffickers hero’s, have a hamburger party with handsome football players, and tweet on the toilet.
#NaziNetanyahu
Voting for Cornell West if on the ballot.
Performative nonsense
Him or Claudia/Karina
@@nohbuddy1 Exactly…what’s wrong with that? Not voting at all… Anything anyone does is performative nonsense
@@nohbuddy1 I would rather my performance be of nonsense and buffoonery than supporting genocide. I have morals though so I get it. Not for everyone. Actually, voting for Joe is also buffoonery. So I guess folkx just like that genocide tang.
I’m writing in “Scottish National Party”
Rumble will not let me upload public protest videos
so much for being a free speech platform smh
I just wanna know what Felix was saying about Alan Wake 2 at the beginning. That games a masterpiece but I feel like Felix might not like it, despite loving Kojima.
is there a us precedent for a presidential candidate winning once losing once and then winning again?
Yes it was Grover Cleveland.
S Carolina glitched out... I died
how do the hosts have worse audio than the call in?
every time they speak it sounds like the mic was off and turning back on, then the end of their sentence is quiet as it turns back off
The hosts
Yeah it's like they are coming in an out from the mic it's so annoying and no one talks about it
Nikki is 3rd 😂
But Desantis cannot become Trump's VP, Haley could. Even if she doesn't get the VP she is the single Republican candidate who has come out of the primaries looking better than they did going into primaries. She's the only other candidate outside of Trump that won anything marginal (Desantis is completely cooked he hedged everything on this election) and most importantly she won't have to suffer the political shame of losing to Biden.
@@joemoe2396she's a plain Indian lady in her 50s. There's no way she's ever gonna be tump's pick bc his team knows the second he's in office and refuses to cut medicare the deep state is gonna him with the heart attack gun. if he's smart he'll pick margarine Taylor green for vp, to keep all the oligarchs terrified he might die and leave the craziest American archetype there is in charge
Why all these annoying radlibs in the comments?
A certain country was mentioned.
How is Reagan the worst president in terms of what video games came out? The original Super Mario Bros and Legend of Zelda came out under Reagan, to name just a few. It was the golden age of what is now called retro gaming, and you kids best respect it!
Hard disagree. We have grown past these things
The second-term successes almost didn’t get here because the industry imploded so hard during his first term
@@FunkMcLovinHow have we grown past games whose sequels and franchises had multiple massive hits in the past year? Maybe you don’t like the classics, but they’re classics for a reason.
@@craigrussell3062 a video game sequel is not like a novel or film sequel. A video game sequel is usually an overhaul. The DNA of Super Mario Brothers has been forever changed. These things are only continuing because of their recent innovations not their halcyon success. Or put more succinctly: GET WITH THE TIMES
@@FunkMcLovin Why should I get with the times? There were games made 30 years ago, during my childhood, that are so good that millions of people still play them today.
21:45 Lmfao who was Trump responding to on the civil war? That was hilarious! 🤣💀
Nikki Haley
The Phantom of the Opera is a ripoff of Pink Floyd
Downward and then upward chromatic scales aren't copyrighted. But yes there's definitely a similar riff there.
Keep Caucing Iowa!
Great episode
Very odd hearing my Twitter Mutuals talk like this
fake gamers don't even remember Call Of Duty came out in 2003, the GOATED game franchise during Bush 2.
Medal of Honor was bill clinton Era
Chapo guys not understanding that Houthi rebels attacking international trade would mean their funko pops would be more expensive and come at a higher cost
So? There’s a genocide happening in Occupied Palestine. How many dead kids are your Amazon deliveries worth?
@@RavingCelt009You need your sarcasm detector updated my friend 😂
The sad thing is that invading Yemen to protect the sanctity of the funko pop trade routes would not even be in the top 5 craziest U.S. foreign policy decisions
Can we completely discount that JB is being blackmailed by them?
For 50 years? What the hell can they have on him for that long? He's not even that controversial and Hunter's stuff is out in the open all over the place
@@tite93 I don't know. I'm asking what the difference would be between the way he currently behaves and that hypothetical. I can't see any. When Putin seemed like he might have influence over Trump we were furious. Well... this seems far more blatant than that.
Damn we really need Matt back because that section on the Houthis was some Hasan-tier analysis
it wasn't great but frankly i suspect hasan knows more about the Houthis as this point than any of the chapo boys, and matt was never their foreign policy guru; they always kind of subcontracted that to derek
this is funny because its true
I love the "leftists" who think they are smarter on foreign policy than you because they supported the US bombing Yemen
And Matt was already hit-and-miss on international issues.
Houthis are standing up against genocide
Anyone know when Matt will be back?
I'd say a generous estimate is 6 months, but likely 9-12 months.
He had something happen to him that is pretty debilitating so...months from now?
He’s dead
Gooning. Could be years. Stop asking. It's getting a lil gay.
Probably not even Matt does - no.
We love it
12:49 Milk voice Will makes his debut
😂😂😂😂
It'll be interesting to see it abortion is still legal nationwide in 5 years. My vote is no.
You are voting for abortion to be illegal. Really?
Why? State after state has voted for it to remain. The "pro life" movement has revealed itself as a project of weird dominionists who have been living in a recently popped bubble of influence. Roe v Wade being overturned is their peak.
I’m assuming it’ll be the same except for a handful of states. Some states may push it back to 12 weeks instead of say 15. But by and large it will be the same
That doesn't sound interesting at all
@@totonow6955 no, I meant that if I had to guess, in 5 years it will be illegal nationwide. I don't want that to happen, so I'm volunteering for the Biden campaign.
22:00
Saying 2010-2012 is the worst period for videogames since the Reagan administration is insane. Felix must have dogshit taste
Skyrim came out in 2011.
No, he has a different opinion than you. It happens sometimes.
@@g-money1247 wait until you hear the way Felix talks about opinions that are different than his
@@rubensano4860Skyrim was always overrated and buggy with trash combat
Dark Souls was the best game of 2011
WHAT IS CHAPO DOING TO STOP TRUMP???
Biden ain't going to leave nothing for Trump to win. See you in hell.
They’re explaining why we’re losing. Something most Beltway pundits have thus far failed to do.
I want Biden to win, for personal reasons, but something tells me he won’t and probably shouldn’t. He started off good, getting us out of Afghanistan, putting all that money into infrastructure, and putting a stop to Trump’s crueler immigration policies.
But then the likes of Joe Manchin and Kristin Sinema came along and reminded us of how corrupt and unimaginative the mainstream DINOs are, and how true change is impossible so long as they’ve got the reigns. And then Gaza happened and reminded us that the old military-industrial complex is also still in charge.
Be honest….even if Biden does win, do you really believe, with the smidgen of political capital he has left, with the divided Congress he has to work with, that he will be able to accomplish anymore in his second term than he already has in his first? I’d like to believe so, but history tells me different.
This disaster is GOING to happen, whether in 1 year or four, it makes no difference. The 6th Party System is coming to end, and that transition will be ugly and brutal and who knows what the country will look like after.
My only hope is that like other past disasters it will force a reckoning within the American political system that will change us for the better.
But to find the light, sometimes you first have to travel through darkness.
And people argued when I said Chapo was doomer.
@@tomrobbins5242guessing you didn't bother getting an education. Wife and I are both college graduates and have been doing VERY well. Doom it up!
@@freakyzed8467definitely the best way to convince voters and not at all elitist or out of touch 💯
Marrianne Williamson 2024
Wow such natural intro !!!!1!!!
If you're that against Israeli's actions and America's support for it, stop paying your taxes 🤷
Taxes arent funding that, the printer go brrr
Way ahead of you champ 🫡
13:35
I’m not sure how you can say not voting is the moral choice, Biden has been an absolute monster, but at least there have been major pushes in union involvement with tacit support from the executive branch. There’s also been a decent Supreme Court appointment.
If anything getting Trump for another four years just means the democrats get to put off actual pressure from the left and focus on Trump.
if the democrats know youll vote for them no matter what, why would they change anything about their foreign policy
because dems always go left when we vote for them, right?
@@icantcomeupwithnames469Literally went with Brandon after Hilldawg lost to Don, they dont go left after you dont either because the broad primary base isnt left.
if the democrats keep losing from lack of progressive support they'll have no choice but to make concessions to progressives
Biden has been an absolute monster? Plenty to disagree with him on, but that's a reach. I have been mostly happy with what he has been able to do. I am not a leftist reactionary though. Just a leftist, which I think you guys here hate.
smart mfers
Another Chapo episode brought to you by the RNC.
I love when people act like not voting for Biden is the best thing for Palestine as though Trump wouldn't advocate for turning the Gaza strip into a massive golf course.
Oh my mistake, nobody actually said which president would be better, just that the cool thing to do is to not vote, because that will make all the politicians start listening to you.
Booo you said this same bs in 2016 and failed, find a new talking point.
@@DanRec1312 "all the problems in the world aren't fixed so fuck it, I'm not even gonna try" - whiny leftists with no material stake in the outcome of the election anyway
The ability for the American public to have any control over American foreign policy electorally is almost non-existent. The "deep-state" does exist, just not in the way conspiracy theorists talk about. If we accept the United States as an Empire, as Imperialist, then of course the military-industrial complex, the administrative bureaucracy, the donor and patronage networks, the policy think-tanks, etc, all form a "superstructure" to perpetuate that Empire. This superstructure is not a formal conspiracy, but consists of entire local economies, countless jobs and careers, and countless money and capital. You can elect someone to the Executive position, but the president alone can't overwrite the programming of this entire structure, and especially one not backed up by a counter-hegemonic, well organised, disciplined, mass movement. In fact, the incentive structures of politics are incredibly effective at cultivating and propagating the kinds of politicians who *would* do nothing to prevent a key US ally from committing a genocide.
The point is, when Americans talk about US foreign policy, they often talk as if they have a say in it. However I think you'd be hard-pressed to prove to me how the average American, through their extremely contrived and limited means of exercising democratic input into US governance, have more say over their government's foreign policy than the average Chinese citizen does, with their own extremely contrived means of input through either membership of the CCP or through localised civic electoral participation.
Vote, or don't vote. But if we consider ourselves socialists, maybe we should also consider that the US state, as it currently exists, is our enemy and the enemy, really, of the entire human race and its future. We are not "members" of the state, we are subjects of it. Just as the people of Gaza are subjects of US hegemony.
Of course we channel our political frustrations with how things are through voting for one or the other parties, because they are the only game in town. And to not vote might as well be to do nothing, as there is no alternative we can look to. But we have to build that alternative. And it will take a long time. Longer than any of these election cycles.
@@rohancooray194 Well said!
The material difference is whether the golf course will be Netanyahu-owned or Trump-owned. Anyways, you should read what @rohancooray194 said. It might help you understand how to be a real leftists-whisperer.
Some L takes and fake gamer girl Felix at it again
I used to love this show but the state of complete unreality about Trump is just astonishing. Not a single criticism of what he says he wants to do but loads of negativity toward all opponents. Pure FAFO.
Yeah! Never forget that he locked up his electoral opponent! Oh, wait...
This show never loved you back
There's nothing negative to say about Trump
@@Some_Average_Joe ya nothing bad happened under trump or as a consequence of trump. we sent a heck of a message to the dems in 2016 and thats why joe biden has been so great afterall. Republicans will never repeal abortion
@@SAVarXX Let's be honest, the repeal of Roe v. Wade happened independent of Trump. McConnell was going to keep Supreme Court seats empty as long as he had to.
bro said not voting is the moral position 😂 as if trump wouldn’t be 10x worse than biden. bro is literally doing the best of h*tler bits on the campaign trail.
How exactly would Trump be 10x worse than Biden given that Biden is literally supporting a genocide right now? Yeah, Trump would of course support the same genocide as well, so what?!
You're doing the "vote for hinderbeg to stop Hitler" argument
@@EgonSupreme when given the choice between two awful candidates, and one is obviously much worse, lesser of two evils is the moral position. don’t get me wrong, i hate biden he fckin sucks. but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking trump wouldn’t be marginally worse. like literally all of the things biden is bad on, trump has a worse position.
@@ThunderHOWL16You're voting for genocide. The moral position is to not do that.
@@icantcomeupwithnames469your decision to not vote does nothing to stop the genocide, you're doing it for nothing but your own ego.
I hate that I’m 1000% going to vote for Biden again. I hate it. But until we get ranked choice elections the Democratic Party has me by the balls and doesn’t have to earn my vote. I hate this arrangement
dont beat yourself up too much - remember that voting isn't real activism, especially not national elections (I used to think Chomsky was wrong about it, but not anymore)
But couldn't you just not... no, nevermind, that's impossible. There is no way you would even consider that.
Just don't vote man, stay home
Are you in a purple state?
It's weird to see someone who gets civil responsibilities that also isn't a hopeless resistlib
No matter who wins, Chapo's Gaza/Sanders ticket loses.
Gaza can still be president if you vote for him.
No audio
No audio
No Matt
no brain
Im gay
Ao Nadio
Guys, just take the L on Ukraine. You were wrong and will never be right. Just stop talking about it.
What were they wrong about? I wasn’t paying attention but now I’m curious
I'm curious too. Give me your edgy take on how the U.S. should have just let Russia take Ukraine that is so fashionable with the dumber parts of the left.
@@user-tl4fi6oy8d I could be wrong here and I genuinely hope OP explains what he meant but I think he might hold the opposite opinion on that. I think he was calling them out for saying first it wouldn’t happen and then that the U.S. should stay out. But again I could be totally wrong.
@@fancykarlmarx they said in the clip that the US involvement with Ukraine was a "disaster" which is kind of a funny way to interpret Ukraine retaining national sovereignty against a nation 10x it's size and military power. I thought OP was referring to that.
@@zacharychristy8928it is a disaster you are funding a proxy war
god, felix is so unfunny
yeha, no
god, felix is so unfunny
i love seeing this comment under every chapo episode
No, you’re the one who’s unfunny and annoying
just for clarification, I think Felix is funny. I think it's silly to expect every joke to land and I'm sure he's well aware that people complain, but he continues to bravely make jokes anyways and that's why I appreciate him. Felix is cringe but he's free.
this show kinda sucks now eh
It's still funny. I miss Matt, but I hope he's recovering well and getting time to hang out with his kid.
I think it's gonna get better this year
I don’t understand why people complain about Yemen. Piracy is the first international crime ever recognized and our strikes haven’t killed any civilians. It’s obviously not a “blockade” because none of the ships were even headed toward Israel. The ships also weren’t even owned by Israel.
Good one lol.
@@g-money1247 ? It adversely affects the entire global community particularly Mediterranean nations. If the houthis want to engage in global acts of war that are supported by no one they shouldn’t be surprised when people retaliate.
That's not how strikes work bud.
@@TheRaggedFlygon The Houthis are putting pressure on the international community in order to stop the genocide in Gaza. They are actually doing something for the people of Gaza. And apparently it’s working since it’s creating all these problems for the world. Well, the Houthis will stop the moment the Israelis stop their genocide.
@@TheRaggedFlygon The Houthis are supported by the entire Axis of Resistance in the Middle East, whose head is Iran, which has recently joined the BRICS together with Saudi Arabia, whom they are now friendly with. The Saudis were the main enemies of the Houthis for a decade, but they have made it clear that they will not start attacking them again or help the US do that. They have learned their lesson.
As much as I like Chapo Trap House, the simple fact remains: they are American Exceptionalists. Like their adversaries on the Right (who are also American Exceptionalists, but worse), they are unable to grasp the fact that the U.S. does not always influence events on the world stage as much as they might like. Don't get me wrong---as far as domestic politics is concerned they are great. But when it comes to International politics they are naïve. Case and point---the missile attack on Yemen. Before spouting off an opinion on that matter, they should maybe look at a map and think about what would happen to world hunger if those straits became navigationally untenable. Just Sayin'.
Ur dumb
They're irony bros. They are funny and that's all. These are not serious political analysts or players. They are online comedians. They basically want Trump to win because he's funnier than Biden. They attack Biden for his stance on Israel, rightly, but then ignore the fact that Trump is even worse on that front. Trump only gets analyzed by these guys based on how funny he is. Everyone else is attacked on policy. I've been listening to them for a few years now and their takes on just about everything is predictable. They are very funny at times, like the reading series, but they aren't serious and you shouldn't be getting your information from them. They are sloppy and flippant. Case in point, your first reply guy comment is indicative of the depth of their political analysis.
You wrongly assume two things
1. The countries that rely on food imports to stave off mass hunger are having that jeopardised by the Houthi blockade. No one is currently claiming that. The economic effects of this blockade are primarily inflation caused by delayed oil and natural gas exports.
2. That the 10 day delay caused by transport vessels alternatively going around Africa is equivalent to the end of all global trade.
@@user-tl4fi6oy8d Yes, thank you! Can the liberals in this comment section take this to heart and go whine somewhere else.
@@user-tl4fi6oy8d comedy is not excuse for ignorance, but yes---I get your point.
Liking Trump is dope no cap
15:22 dude, Felix sucks so much.
There's always one.
@@kazumahazeuzumaki yeah sorry I don't enjoy the flippant attitude he has, jfc, I guess I'm not allowed to offer my opinion on something published for public consumption.
@@HammerStudioGames You're absolutely allowed to offer your opinion, on anything. I'm simply sharing my opinion, that you are one of many Felix hating Goobers.
@@kazumahazeuzumaki cool, my opinion is that one of the most surprising things I've realized is that of the original duo that Virgil was the funny one and now that his better half is gone, Felix is trying to grapple with the fact he's rapidly approaching 40 and his apparent solution is transitioning from playing CS badly while podcasting to eating fistfuls of klonopin and dissociating in the background of Hasan streams
@@kazumahazeuzumaki how about you engage in discussion and refute my point instead of coming here just to ridicule me?
Clinton is the preidential video game GOAT, final fantasy six and seven, earthbound alone
Nah ps2 era was the goat. Literally hundreds of masterpieces in every genre.
Fellow person-pitch enjoyer