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Good story telling, I’ve heard this one lord of times. My only complaint would be using words like “squaw”. It’s a derogatory and demeaning term to indigenous peoples. Looking forward to more videos.
I am a descendant of Caty Sage on my mother’s side. I have heard this story all my life. Her father James raised fine horses and some men had stolen horses from him before Caty’s kidnapping and a posse went looking for the horses and found them grazing. The thief had apparently hidden. They recovered the horses. They always felt Caty’s kidnapping was to get back at her father. There are 2 books about this. “Red Trails and White” by Bonnie Ball and “Yourowquains A Wyandot Indian Queen”. Thank you for remembering Caty. I’ve often thought about how terrified she was. Just 5 years old. It was in Trade Tennessee that he traded Caty.
I'm Native American, I'm Diegueno aka Kumeyaay, this was such a sad story, but I'm so very glad to read where she was very well loved and respected, some tribes were very harsh when it came to their captive women and or children. It's still a heartbreaking story.
@@TheAppalachianStorytellerIm so glad she had the wisdom not to travel to Virginia with her brothers, because Americans are dangerous xenophobes. And if she had been a cheifs wife at some point, she was probably tatooed. And her mother was going to even more heartbroken to see her daughter as what she considered a godless savage😂
The picture of this little girl looks very similar to Summer Wells that lived in Tennessee and she went missing too. I saw the comment that said there wasn't cameras back then. This was such a sad story and so is the Summer Wells story. I couldn't imagine losing one of my children. I'm glad Caty Sage was some what okay, but I hate to think what she had to go through. Poor little girl. If there was one thing I could change in this world, that would be for all children to be safe. You wouldn't never hear of kidnappings or human trafficking or anything like that. I pray for God to protect children all over this world everyday. Thank you for sharing this story even though it breaks my heart. I have never heard of it before.
My name is James Sage. I have just traveled from Australia to the Appalachians for the first time. In my country Sage is a very rare name and we have never successfully tracked down its origins- I was surprised by this story on so many levels - it has given me much to look in to.
I’m from and grew up in Appalachia Kentucky and my old Pappy could tell a story and I never I thought I’d ever see anyone who could beat him, but sir you give pappy a run for the money. He’d tell stories of my ancestors that came from Scotland got a land grant also and us grandchildren could listen for hours, better than any TV which we never had in those days. Till I die these mountains are in my blood and the memories are wonderful and thank God I was born in and to a family with such rich history, keep up the work, I will be following you for these wonderful stories.
This was done wonderfully!! The brothers wrote seven letters home while they where on there quest to fine their sister . Our family still have six of the original letters . Amazing true story. Thank you
I wish she had gone to meet with her mother one last time. I can only imagine how sad her mother was when the brothers brought the news that she was not coming.... Her mother longed for her for so many years... She must have been devastated.
Thank you for another true Appalachia story about real Appalachian people. Thank you for doing the research about these people and then telling their story.
What a nightmare this poor little helpless girl went through! But I'm glad she found her peace in later years to come! She was definitely a survivor! 💕
I enjoy listening to these old tales of the past. It is always intriguing and told so very well. I am born and raised in the Blue Ridge Mountains of western North Carolina and can so relate to these stories of this neck of the woods. Thank you so much for your great stories. I hope to read more and more!
I am a descendent of Katie Sage on my Fathers side. I’ve heard about Katie all my life. My Grandma was Berti May Sage born in 1878. I hurt when I think of how Kati must have felt. This story of Kati goes down through the family with sadness.
I live in Virginia and there is so much rich history here ,I absolutely love your channel and the narrator has the perfect accent and he puts so much energy and emotions into the story!!! ❤xoxo❤
Great story. Sad but also good that the girl grew to become a leader of her "adopted" people. So many stories of kidnappings do not have a positive outcome. Thank you for sharing 👍
Quite a few white women from then preferred the more civil and humane treatment they received from Native Americans than they did their own white families, white husbands, and white society in general. BTW, press x to doubt, that she became a leader of her "adopted" people, sound like white propaganda to me.
My grandmother's last name was Sage. My great grandfather lived in Kansas and was kidnapped as a young boy. He was taken out west and escaped after a few years and made his way back home. I found the story while doing ancestry research. I heard it told in my family but always thought it was exaggerated , but it wasn't !
In my heart I was hoping Caty would be willing to take the journey and see her mom one last time.. but life is real not a fantasy. I’m glad that she had a good life and was loved deeply.
This story about a stolen child on the frontier in 1700s and early 1800s wasn't all that uncommon, unfortunately. The sacrifices endured by these mountain folks were many. I would venture to say that events like this initiated the Indian removal act created by another Tennessean President Andrew Jackson. This was a tragedy for all people involved. I find this to be a sad story for all people involved. Cady survived to become grandmother of her nation. Her family endured a life of not knowing. Cady experienced the removal from their homelands and the trail of tears. Thank you JD for bringing history to a new generation. 👍👍
It saddens me to know she refused to see her mother one last time. Her mother gave her life; she owed her mother one last chance to see her long lost stolen child.
I don't really understand it either, unless she thought she was being asked to permanently give up her Wyanodot identity and all her children, grandchildren, and other relatives, to live the rest of her life among people whose language she didn't know and ways were unfamiliar. And to be fair, that was the usual way cases of white people found living among Native Americans was handled: Forcible re-patriation to their white relatives. So if Caty thought that was what was being proposed, you really can't blame her. And looked at in that light, it seems a little suss that they proposed Caty coming to Virginia, not Lovice going to Kansas. Maybe there were health reasons as to why Lovice couldn't take the trip, but given the history of interactions between Whites and First Nations peoples (as well as her own traumatic abduction) you can see why Caty might be reluctant to trust white men she barely knew.
@@TheFringe247 A possession is incapable of owing because it’s not human. Humans owe. And she owed her mother. Since you seem to need help with word meanings, obligation is a synonym for owe. I hope that helps.
The picture of the little girl reminded me of Summer Moon Utah Wells, she has been missing for almost 2 years now June 15th. She was 5 at the time and just a little wisp of a girl whose head had been been shaved, but she had fine, very blond hair and beautiful blue eyes. Please pray she is found soon. There are thousands of us who have been praying for her return and the truth about what really happened to her. 🙌🙏🙌
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller ~ Thank you. I actually found that book on the internet last night when my curiosity over took me and I started looking up Caty Sage 😁
Families were bonded together closely. Religion was sometimes the only social event. Yes times were harsh but simpler. Not only did family help family out but the community were close and helped too. There was no phones, TV's, computers or video games to take attention away from actual interaction with each other. Tales were told, Herbal healers were honored, porch sitting a must and vegetables grown and preserved which no canned goods today can match the wonderful flavors. Weaving made cloth, feed sack dresses and shirts were sewn on peddler sewing machines, quilts created and all items needed were treasured. These Appalachian people were strong, determined, survivers and respectful to each other, the Earth, plants and animals. I wish i could go back for weeks and learn from my Great great grandma all her knowledge of herbs, plants, leaves, bark, etc because much has been lost.
Growing up in NC, I read about this story, most likely from reading a book about Granny Moses. It was an awesome re-telling with so many great details from Caty Sage’s perspective. I’ve always enjoyed learning the history of the beginnings of this land, and glad she ended up with the Wyandot. She was obviously a strong and wise woman. I feel for her family that she was torn away from. They endured a lifetime of pain and grief from the actions of one evil man’s greed. But she overcame and was a treasure to the Wyandot people. So resilient, these first settlers were. Amazingly sad story with an ending that provided some closure to her birth family. Just as foretold by Granny Moses. It’s all just so fascinating. Well done, JD
Thank you Jon, you know, this was the first time I had heard of Granny Moses. Do you have any recommended reading or links for her? if so, email me at theappalachianstoryteller@gmail.com
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller not much, I’m afraid. I will reach out via email soon. Gonna have to dig through some boxes of books in storage, but I’d love to help out any way I can. This is a worthy cause, especially in these times we now live. Appreciate your efforts to bring the light. Talk to you soon.
Wow I just love your stories and the roughness in your voice .. I could listen to you for hours. Such a sad heartfelt story. I did think that she would have wanted to see her mother after all those years but at least she was able to meet her brothers. ❤ it was bittersweet 👏
Thank you Angie- yes- she did want to see her mother- she initially agreed to go- but after a couple days, she changed her mind because she knew that neither her mother or herself would be able to understand anything the other was saying
Fascinating. So glad that at least she was carried away to a new life with meaning and lived among people who raised and loved her and gave her an identity and a purposeful life within their ancient traditional society. She must have seen and experienced so much of a way of life which was quickly to vanish forever.
A story which as a parent had me emotional. As my daughter now 35 was a blond hairded blue eyed little girl once. Actually she is 1/4 Algonquin through her Mum. Truly i felt the Fathers pain. Yet at least the tribe who took her in. As one of their own and later Caty became the Chiefs Wife. Im thankful they looked after her and loved her as one of their own. Great story to listen to.....yet so many mixed emotions listening to it. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
Ouch, don't let your guard down yet; #1 trafficked product, blue-eyed, blond haired females in the good old United States of America. Rumors have it; it's keeping old pedo, Joe, and the US government a float. Your job is never done, protect your baby girl.
is your daughter adopted, or are you trying to flex by saying you are half Algonquin (which is a language pattern and a large non-specific group, and not really a tribe, I'm Anishinaabeg and I speak Algonquin) or was your mother a Cherokee princess?
@@WEptown no I was simply feeling as a parent. For the ones in the true story who lost their young daughter. My Ex Wife ís 1/3 Algonquin. I felt for their parents as my daughter was a blond haired child. Feeling for their loss. Yet understanding her at the end. Wanting to stay with those she loved. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
As a native of Georgia, I for some reason have always had a fasination with the lives of Appalachia. I find it intriguing that a diverse group of people actually exist right here in the US. Thanks for you storytelling, new subscriber here!
I’ve never been to the Appalachian mountains but what you described is who I am, a mountain man who sees helping others as not just a privilege but a necessity. Have a great day my fellow mountain folk, Jesus loves y’all
Such a heartbreaking story. I can not imagine the grief and sorrow of the mom and dad. Oh how I wish, she had gone to her mother one last time... My god...
I wish her mother would have hollered at her to get back over there! Ik it was a different time, but you never leave a child out in the open, alone. There were bears around as well, sooo. Sad that the Indians performed human trafficking. The guy would nit have had a reason to take her. Greed, it's an ugly creature!
I kinda doubt she didn't get "hurt" by the dirty pervert... just saying, back then the age girls were molested was very early... and there had to be a reason Caty was targeted (and not just for a horse....because who is going to flee that distance at that speed for a trade for a horse, while stealing a horse is much easier than trading a child for a horse. Not to mention, riding a horse that far and fast is sure to ruin it, why ruin a horse to get a horse??)
and if she lived with her Tennessee family she would have been a child bride marrying a family member (yes cousins count as family) and pumping out semi-biologically wrong children till she died..... what an inspiration. She only became "great" after she learned from Native Americans.... just saying
Your stories are always so good, you are a natural story teller. Mary Jemison was another white child raised and lived with Native Americans. She lived her last years in Western NY. Her cabin is in Letchworth State Park.
@@mariedavis577 me too, I read her story many times and went to her cabin in Letchworth for decades. There's a marker near where she lived in Portageville NY also I think.
There is also Cynthia Parker. She too married a chief and was the mother of Quannah Parker. She was taken back back by her family but wanted to go back to her Indian family. Her little daughter that she had with her died of smallpox, and Cinthia starved herself to death. A tragic story also.
Thank you as always JD. You had me living and traveling alongside Caty every step of the way. What a wonderful way to spend a few minutes listening to your stories and voice enjoying a cup of coffee on a Saturday morning! Thanks again, my friend. jj
You are an amazing storyteller. This story sad story has so many levels. I so look forward to your stories. I have a long commute and listen to your channel daily❤
Thank you for this interesting bit of history. Sad for her mother & father but at least her brother saw her and praise God she was loved and treated well by her new family 🤗🇿🇦
We need to honor and learn from Old Days, but I don't see why some people pine for them. Yes, life was simpler. But it was also harsher, even under Caty's extenuating circumstances. I'm so glad that for her, it turned out far better than could've been expected. And she did grow to wisdom indeed.
Very true, I was born in 1956 and I miss the 60's but in the 60's most people didn't have air conditioners even in Alabama because they were just too expensive, now even people on welfare have air conditioners! As a child we only had 3 channels on a 19 inch black and white TV and I was my dads remote control now we can watch color new release movies on our cell phones! In the 50's and 60's people actually starved today there is no reason to go hungry with all the help that is available from the government! Yeah the "good old days" were only good for those who could afford it!
@@living-wellon-less5669 - One main reason we can live better than before (if not well) is bc durable goods are comparatively far cheaper than in the past. Even just in the 90's when personal computers happened, no matter what I couldn't find a decent one for under $1200 which would be what today? Around $1600-1800? Took me 2 solid years to save up for it. Not so food, but at least those of us with access can garden to help out there. People on welfare can't be said to have it 'easy' in any respect. But thank God fewer outright starve. For the unhoused, I'm sure it's hell. .... Also in the 60's, the world still wasn't as hot as it's getting now. I don't want to go back to any nostalgic myths, but I'm still glad to be one of the first boomers. My race may be in the home stretch but that's okay too bc I know the final destination. See you there, I trust. :) BTW, with a little knowledgeable and patient lurking, a top of the line Samsung Chromebook can be had open-box for not much over $100 these days. If anyone reading this likes Chromebooks the way I do, there's a dandy website for gently used ones called chromebooksrus. It's a dot com of course. Wouldn't meet JD's needs at all, but for most users they're excellent.
@@frostyfrances4700 I know why we live better, the 1960's was better than the 1930's and the 1930's was better than the 1890's it's called progress! And that global warming nonsense doesn't phase me, I live in Alabama and so far this year it is the coolest I have ever experienced, right now it's 65 normally this time of year you're hiding in the shade or in the house with the air conditioner and we've only had 2 hot days this year so don't waste your breath on me about that garbage!
@@living-wellon-less5669 - Why the sudden anger over the mere mention of science? Nobody said every day would be hotter than the previous. We're entering a period of wild temperature swings, the hot sometimes hotter than ever as well as what we would've called unseasonal coolness. But that's no reason to be hot under the collar for nothing at all. Peace to you. You're gonna need it, dear heart. Science is nothing but the honorable and *reverent* study of God's handiwork. If that seems like garbage to you, it's still not actual garbage. Let's try to walk together as fellow humans rather than turning up the heat on purpose. That's not going to do any of us any good.
Imagine how frightened and confused she must have been at such a young age. However I'm glad she ended up where she did and was taking care of had a good life. Sad she didn't get to see her parents and they didn't get to see her... i guess at least they found out what had happened to her and that she was okay
Many thing's in life I've been grateful for & this channel I found the other day is definitely one of the highlights of my life. I live in south western part of Va & have so since I was born in 1982 & the stories of Appalachia is so fascinating & even more so with the way You tell it. God Bless & keep up the magnificent beautiful work.
This is kind of like the Francis Slocum story. She was take by the Delaware Indians and ended up in Miami county in Peru Indiana. He brothers found her at a old age but knew she was there sister because of her finger was cut off as a your child. She also stay with her Miami Indian family. These are both great true story’s . Love reading these kind of history stories.
What a great story! Of course, for her first family, it must have been horrendous not to know what was become of her, but even if it began horribly due to an awful man, I'm glad Caty found such great people who actually cared for her enough to make her part of their family, and that she lived a full life!
Like the Greenbrier story, I am very familiar with this. Again, hearing it told by someone who is from the region gives it an entirely new complexion. Thanks JD, for another wonderful story. I think this is #9 or #10 for today. I can’t get enough
My family is from Grayson County VA. I have never heard this, it's unusual to hear stories about these parts. Thank you for sharing some of the history of our parts, even if they aren't pretty.
My Family Comes Out Of Grayson Virginia For 10 Generations. My Sister And I Knew Somewhat Of Katy Sage. I Believe Her Family Is Related To The Cornetts
The land was contested by the colonists, not the other way around. The “natives” as you so eloquently put it, were rightfully fighting to keep their land.
Just a note as I have heard it - none of the American lands were "owned" by any native Americans. It changed hands many times. Therefore when other nationalities came into the picture, it was really no different than what was already happening. Each side had those who were evil and brutal and also those who were generous and kind.
My last name is Sage, by marriage, Ive never heard any storys with my last name.... this is so tragic for Catys birth family but this woman was accepted by these people to become one of their own, wow...
Thank you good teacher. For another historical Appalachian story.. I had never heard of Katy sage. But truly a intresting and fascinating life that she did live. Very mysterious that the old witch was right.
I was raised and still live on Grayson Co and remember the stories of Caty Sage. I still trout fish Elk Creek Fox Creek Wilson Creek and cant imagine the rugged trails crossed over from her farm. I never knew the exact history on the story thank you for this.
Well done, bravo excellent storytelling, but astonishing story into think that's just one story of one family and to think every person has their own story in this world. It's nice just getting to take a peek inside one from that far back. Excellent, I really enjoyed it.
*I've just visited Appalachia and I have an admiration of the fortitude of those who learned to survive in that beautiful yet harsh terrain.* *Now I need to hear more of their stories.*
I, too, ask our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to protect the defenseless children and the elderly. These two groups of victims are mostly defenseless and really need to be cared for and protected by their loved ones. God bless and keep them safe from all evil. Amen.
Thank-You for this story. When it first began, I thought it was going to end with Caty being KILLED; so at least she survived. But the HEARTACHE her parents and brothers went through is soooooooo SAD. At least now they are ALL TOGETHER, NEVER TO BE SEPERATED AGAIN!!!!
Such a sad story of a five year old, but what she endured was terrible. Yet she lived to become queen of her family. I was heartbroken to hear that most of her siblings passed away never seeing her again. Life can be full of harsh realities yet God always has a good plan! ❤
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Good story telling, I’ve heard this one lord of times. My only complaint would be using words like “squaw”. It’s a derogatory and demeaning term to indigenous peoples.
Looking forward to more videos.
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I am a descendant of Caty Sage on my mother’s side. I have heard this story all my life. Her father James raised fine horses and some men had stolen horses from him before Caty’s kidnapping and a posse went looking for the horses and found them grazing. The thief had apparently hidden. They recovered the horses. They always felt Caty’s kidnapping was to get back at her father. There are 2 books about this. “Red Trails and White” by Bonnie Ball and “Yourowquains A Wyandot Indian Queen”. Thank you for remembering Caty. I’ve often thought about how terrified she was. Just 5 years old. It was in Trade Tennessee that he traded Caty.
I love all things history and I will be sure to read these stories.
Yes- the facts you mention are from the book Yourowquains: a wyandot queen, the story of Caty Sage. That is the book I read that inspired this story.
I too am a descendant of Caty's Mom Lovice Ott and her father James Sage.
@Karen Brewer see, you are the one who keeps the history alive and tuthful. Anytime coffee, beer, wine, whiskey or twa it is on me. Im in canton nc
Yall bout to have a rwunion
I'm Native American, I'm Diegueno aka Kumeyaay, this was such a sad story, but I'm so very glad to read where she was very well loved and respected, some tribes were very harsh when it came to their captive women and or children. It's still a heartbreaking story.
Thanks for sharing my friend, have a blessed day
@@TheAppalachianStorytellerIm so glad she had the wisdom not to travel to Virginia with her brothers, because Americans are dangerous xenophobes. And if she had been a cheifs wife at some point, she was probably tatooed. And her mother was going to even more heartbroken to see her daughter as what she considered a godless savage😂
The picture of this little girl looks very similar to Summer Wells that lived in Tennessee and she went missing too. I saw the comment that said there wasn't cameras back then. This was such a sad story and so is the Summer Wells story. I couldn't imagine losing one of my children. I'm glad Caty Sage was some what okay, but I hate to think what she had to go through. Poor little girl. If there was one thing I could change in this world, that would be for all children to be safe. You wouldn't never hear of kidnappings or human trafficking or anything like that. I pray for God to protect children all over this world everyday. Thank you for sharing this story even though it breaks my heart. I have never heard of it before.
Thank you Bonnie- the picture of the little girl has a story all her own that I have never shared here- maybe one day I’ll tell her real story
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller , oh okay. You are a great story teller.
I came here to see if anyone else had that overwhelming feeling that her story was similar to Summer's!
Eerie! Glad I wasn't alone
Omg...I was just thinking the same exact thing! Poor Summer we will probably never know what she went through! That picture gave me goosebumps bumps!❤
As soon as I looked at this picture I thought the same thing ,, remarkably like sweet Summer 🙏🏾❤️🥲
My name is James Sage. I have just traveled from Australia to the Appalachians for the first time. In my country Sage is a very rare name and we have never successfully tracked down its origins- I was surprised by this story on so many levels - it has given me much to look in to.
That is awesome, so glad you found this story James
My daughters first name is Sage 🇦🇺
It’s uncommon in the States, too! How odd that you’re a Sage & come here to hear this story!
@@lbh4113 like Heartstrings calling for family reunification….
What part of Aus? We’re in north Qld 😅
I’m from and grew up in Appalachia Kentucky and my old Pappy could tell a story and I never I thought I’d ever see anyone who could beat him, but sir you give pappy a run for the money. He’d tell stories of my ancestors that came from Scotland got a land grant also and us grandchildren could listen for hours, better than any TV which we never had in those days. Till I die these mountains are in my blood and the memories are wonderful and thank God I was born in and to a family with such rich history, keep up the work, I will be following you for these wonderful stories.
I’m honored, thank you so much
This was done wonderfully!! The brothers wrote seven letters home while they where on there quest to fine their sister . Our family still have six of the original letters . Amazing true story. Thank you
Thank you so much, have a blessed day!
How wonderful was this true story🎉
I wish she had gone to meet with her mother one last time. I can only imagine how sad her mother was when the brothers brought the news that she was not coming.... Her mother longed for her for so many years... She must have been devastated.
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She may have resentment for what she felt may have happened
I wish she had gone to her mother as well!! At least to hug her and see her so her mother might die in peace. 😭
Thank you for another true Appalachia story about real Appalachian people. Thank you for doing the research about these people and then telling their story.
Thank you and Merry Christmas!
What a nightmare this poor little helpless girl went through! But I'm glad she found her peace in later years to come! She was definitely a survivor! 💕
She was a surviver
The nightmare was at the hand of a white man. Native Americans cared for her which shows who the real savages are.
I enjoy listening to these old tales of the past. It is always intriguing and told so very well. I am born and raised in the Blue Ridge Mountains of western North Carolina and can so relate to these stories of this neck of the woods. Thank you so much for your great stories. I hope to read more and more!
Thank you!
I am a descendant of Caty Sage's family on my father's side. My grandmother's name was Dorothy Sage.
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She survived. A miracle. Remarkable child and woman. Happy she lived her life.🌷🌷
Amen !
I am a descendent of Katie Sage on my Fathers side. I’ve heard about Katie all my life. My Grandma was Berti May Sage born in 1878. I hurt when I think of how Kati must have felt. This story of Kati goes down through the family with sadness.
I live in Virginia and there is so much rich history here ,I absolutely love your channel and the narrator has the perfect accent and he puts so much energy and emotions into the story!!! ❤xoxo❤
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Great story. Sad but also good that the girl grew to become a leader of her "adopted" people. So many stories of kidnappings do not have a positive outcome. Thank you for sharing 👍
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Quite a few white women from then preferred the more civil and humane treatment they received from Native Americans than they did their own white families, white husbands, and white society in general. BTW, press x to doubt, that she became a leader of her "adopted" people, sound like white propaganda to me.
I am a Sage on my Mothers side. Recently, a cousin sent this story to some of us relatives. What a surprise to see it on TH-cam.
How bout that! Thanks for watching
My grandmother's last name was Sage. My great grandfather lived in Kansas and was kidnapped as a young boy. He was taken out west and escaped after a few years and made his way back home. I found the story while doing ancestry research. I heard it told in my family but always thought it was exaggerated , but it wasn't !
In my heart I was hoping Caty would be willing to take the journey and see her mom one last time.. but life is real not a fantasy. I’m glad that she had a good life and was loved deeply.
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This story about a stolen child on the frontier in 1700s and early 1800s wasn't all that uncommon, unfortunately. The sacrifices endured by these mountain folks were many. I would venture to say that events like this initiated the Indian removal act created by another Tennessean President Andrew Jackson. This was a tragedy for all people involved. I find this to be a sad story for all people involved. Cady survived to become grandmother of her nation. Her family endured a life of not knowing. Cady experienced the removal from their homelands and the trail of tears. Thank you JD for bringing history to a new generation. 👍👍
Well said James
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Did they treat these stolen children well?
@@jae6335 from what I know of this story she was treated very well along with 2 male captives.
It saddens me to know she refused to see her mother one last time. Her mother gave her life; she owed her mother one last chance to see her long lost stolen child.
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I don't really understand it either, unless she thought she was being asked to permanently give up her Wyanodot identity and all her children, grandchildren, and other relatives, to live the rest of her life among people whose language she didn't know and ways were unfamiliar. And to be fair, that was the usual way cases of white people found living among Native Americans was handled: Forcible re-patriation to their white relatives. So if Caty thought that was what was being proposed, you really can't blame her.
And looked at in that light, it seems a little suss that they proposed Caty coming to Virginia, not Lovice going to Kansas. Maybe there were health reasons as to why Lovice couldn't take the trip, but given the history of interactions between Whites and First Nations peoples (as well as her own traumatic abduction) you can see why Caty might be reluctant to trust white men she barely knew.
@@astrinymris9953. That was sad. I can’t imagine not wanting to see my mother. And her poor mother. That must have been a gut wretching experience
A child doesn't "owe" their parents anything. They are people not possessions.
@@TheFringe247 A possession is incapable of owing because it’s not human. Humans owe. And she owed her mother.
Since you seem to need help with word meanings, obligation is a synonym for owe.
I hope that helps.
The picture of the little girl reminded me of Summer Moon Utah Wells, she has been missing for almost 2 years now June 15th. She was 5 at the time and just a little wisp of a girl whose head had been been shaved, but she had fine, very blond hair and beautiful blue eyes. Please pray she is found soon. There are thousands of us who have been praying for her return and the truth about what really happened to her. 🙌🙏🙌
Amen
I came on here to say the same thing! I've been following her story. Such a sad situation!!
Her mother is involved in Summer’s disappearance. That’s all I got.
I hope you find her, may the Great One help you... 😑
Came here for this comment
I am an South African and many kids got kidnapped here in those days and their story has never been told😰 thanks for sharing this heartbreak story🙏🏽
Thank you so much my friend
Were they stolen and sold to American democrats in slavery?
In those days eh let's be clear IT STILL HAPPENS NOW HERE.
This was an amazing story. I had never heard of Caty Sage before, now I will never forget her. Now I want to know more.
I recommend the book yourowquians queen of the wyandots by bill bland
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller ~ Thank you. I actually found that book on the internet last night when my curiosity over took me and I started looking up Caty Sage 😁
Families were bonded together closely. Religion was sometimes the only social event. Yes times were harsh but simpler. Not only did family help family out but the community were close and helped too. There was no phones, TV's, computers or video games to take attention away from actual interaction with each other. Tales were told, Herbal healers were honored, porch sitting a must and vegetables grown and preserved which no canned goods today can match the wonderful flavors. Weaving made cloth, feed sack dresses and shirts were sewn on peddler sewing machines, quilts created and all items needed were treasured. These Appalachian people were strong, determined, survivers and respectful to each other, the Earth, plants and animals. I wish i could go back for weeks and learn from my Great great grandma all her knowledge of herbs, plants, leaves, bark, etc because much has been lost.
Well said my friend
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller thank you my Grandma told me true stories about her growing up in Brevard NC and as an adult. I begged her for them.
I grew up in W.V. before welfare handouts people had to work together, stayed together,and loved their families.
@@robinluich6626 exactly. Same way my Mama grew up.
What a wonderful account. I wish I could go back with you and sit listening at her knees. God bless Ruth x
You have the perfect voice for these fascinating stories 😊🩵
Thank you so much!
Growing up in NC, I read about this story, most likely from reading a book about Granny Moses. It was an awesome re-telling with so many great details from Caty Sage’s perspective. I’ve always enjoyed learning the history of the beginnings of this land, and glad she ended up with the Wyandot. She was obviously a strong and wise woman. I feel for her family that she was torn away from. They endured a lifetime of pain and grief from the actions of one evil man’s greed. But she overcame and was a treasure to the Wyandot people. So resilient, these first settlers were. Amazingly sad story with an ending that provided some closure to her birth family. Just as foretold by Granny Moses. It’s all just so fascinating. Well done, JD
Thank you Jon, you know, this was the first time I had heard of Granny Moses. Do you have any recommended reading or links for her? if so, email me at theappalachianstoryteller@gmail.com
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller not much, I’m afraid. I will reach out via email soon. Gonna have to dig through some boxes of books in storage, but I’d love to help out any way I can. This is a worthy cause, especially in these times we now live. Appreciate your efforts to bring the light. Talk to you soon.
Please tell me the name of the book about Granny moses
Wow I just love your stories and the roughness in your voice .. I could listen to you for hours. Such a sad heartfelt story. I did think that she would have wanted to see her mother after all those years but at least she was able to meet her brothers. ❤ it was bittersweet 👏
Thank you Angie- yes- she did want to see her mother- she initially agreed to go- but after a couple days, she changed her mind because she knew that neither her mother or herself would be able to understand anything the other was saying
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller or unlock painful memories that were kept hidden. Sad yet interesting story
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller - By that time such an arduous trip could've proved the end of Caty too.
@@frostyfrances4700 Exactly, traveling from Kansas to Virginia and back as an elderly woman, was risking death
I am a descendant of Samuel Sage and i have known this story my entire life.
thanks so much for sharing
Fascinating. So glad that at least she was carried away to a new life with meaning and lived among people who raised and loved her and gave her an identity and a purposeful life within their ancient traditional society. She must have seen and experienced so much of a way of life which was quickly to vanish forever.
It’s a beautiful inspiring tragedy
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Indeed!
A story which as a parent had me emotional. As my daughter now 35 was a blond hairded blue eyed little girl once. Actually she is 1/4 Algonquin through her Mum. Truly i felt the Fathers pain. Yet at least the tribe who took her in. As one of their own and later Caty became the Chiefs Wife. Im thankful they looked after her and loved her as one of their own. Great story to listen to.....yet so many mixed emotions listening to it. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
Thank you Thomas
Ouch, don't let your guard down yet; #1 trafficked product, blue-eyed, blond haired females in the good old United States of America. Rumors have it; it's keeping old pedo, Joe, and the US government a float. Your job is never done, protect your baby girl.
is your daughter adopted, or are you trying to flex by saying you are half Algonquin (which is a language pattern and a large non-specific group, and not really a tribe, I'm Anishinaabeg and I speak Algonquin) or was your mother a Cherokee princess?
@@WEptown no I was simply feeling as a parent. For the ones in the true story who lost their young daughter. My Ex Wife ís 1/3 Algonquin. I felt for their parents as my daughter was a blond haired child. Feeling for their loss. Yet understanding her at the end. Wanting to stay with those she loved. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
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As a native of Georgia, I for some reason have always had a fasination with the lives of
Appalachia. I find it intriguing that a diverse group of people actually exist right here in the US. Thanks for you storytelling, new subscriber here!
Thank you! Glad to have you here!
I'm Kirk Sage , my father was from Virginia and had a brother named James
wow!
I’ve never been to the Appalachian mountains but what you described is who I am, a mountain man who sees helping others as not just a privilege but a necessity. Have a great day my fellow mountain folk, Jesus loves y’all
thanks so much Ben, have a blessed day
What mountains do you roam my friend?
Such a heartbreaking story. I can not imagine the grief and sorrow of the mom and dad. Oh how I wish, she had gone to her mother one last time...
My god...
truly heartbreaking
I wish her mother would have hollered at her to get back over there! Ik it was a different time, but you never leave a child out in the open, alone. There were bears around as well, sooo. Sad that the Indians performed human trafficking. The guy would nit have had a reason to take her. Greed, it's an ugly creature!
Travel was time consuming and difficult and Cady was about 60 years old so it was a practical and wise decision not to visit her mother.
Howdy JD. Another good story. I'm glad she didn't get hurt by the kidnapper and at least grew to have another family. Thanks for sharing this story.
Thank you Troy
I kinda doubt she didn't get "hurt" by the dirty pervert... just saying, back then the age girls were molested was very early... and there had to be a reason Caty was targeted (and not just for a horse....because who is going to flee that distance at that speed for a trade for a horse, while stealing a horse is much easier than trading a child for a horse. Not to mention, riding a horse that far and fast is sure to ruin it, why ruin a horse to get a horse??)
My aunt Beth was kidnapped at 2 years old in 1965 and nobody has seen her since. Good video & that really happens in life I'm sorry to say! ❤
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What was her whole name. May she always be remembered.
@@maryleepatterson8966 Her name was Caty Sage
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller yes I know, I meant the gentleman aunt Beth who was kidnapped.
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller, Ummm... Drrr...
I had chills most of this story. Thanks for another great story from our past, JD.
Thank you Pinky!
She overcame so many obstacles! What an inspiration she was!
An incredible life
and if she lived with her Tennessee family she would have been a child bride marrying a family member (yes cousins count as family) and pumping out semi-biologically wrong children till she died..... what an inspiration. She only became "great" after she learned from Native Americans.... just saying
My heart breaks for the mother and father but this is one beautifully put together story. Fear, heartbreak and happiness.
Well done!
Thank you ❤️
Your stories are always so good, you are a natural story teller.
Mary Jemison was another white child raised and lived with Native Americans. She lived her last years in Western NY. Her cabin is in Letchworth State Park.
I’ll have to look her story up
The story of “Mary Jemison” has always been a favorite of mine…I used to live very near her cabin, and have visited several times 💕
@@mariedavis577 me too, I read her story many times and went to her cabin in Letchworth for decades. There's a marker near where she lived in Portageville NY also I think.
@@suegeew9727 👍💕
There is also Cynthia Parker. She too married a chief and was the mother of Quannah Parker. She was taken back back by her family but wanted to go back to her Indian family. Her little daughter that she had with her died of smallpox, and Cinthia starved herself to death. A tragic story also.
I could listen to you all day
Thank you for bringing this precious little girls story to light
Lest She Be Forgotten
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Thank you ma'am!
All I can say is WOW!!! What a story.. absolutely love your channel ❤️
Thank you ma’am ❤️
Thank you as always JD. You had me living and traveling alongside Caty every step of the way. What a wonderful way to spend a few minutes listening to your stories and voice enjoying a cup of coffee on a Saturday morning! Thanks again, my friend. jj
Thank you John, have a good en my friend
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Stay Blessed my friend.
Well done. What an adventure Caty's life was.
Thank you Nancy
Love your stories!
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
You are an amazing storyteller. This story sad story has so many levels.
I so look forward to your stories. I have a long commute and listen to your channel daily❤
Thank you for taking me along for your drive!
Another great video. Really enjoy hearing stories from Appalachia.
Thank you Cynthia
Loved this story. I hope you do others like this one.
Thank you Marilyn
The comments are a wonderful addition to this story. Thank you everyone 💓
❤️ The community on this channel is amazing!
Wow. Once again you amaze me with your stories. They are better than television ❤. My favorite story of yours is the Christmas story . Thanks friend.
Thank you for the kind words
Thank you for this interesting bit of history. Sad for her mother & father but at least her brother saw her and praise God she was loved and treated well by her new family 🤗🇿🇦
Thank you so much my friend, have a great day!
We need to honor and learn from Old Days, but I don't see why some people pine for them. Yes, life was simpler. But it was also harsher, even under Caty's extenuating circumstances. I'm so glad that for her, it turned out far better than could've been expected. And she did grow to wisdom indeed.
Her journey is terrifying and inspiring at the same time
Very true, I was born in 1956 and I miss the 60's but in the 60's most people didn't have air conditioners even in Alabama because they were just too expensive, now even people on welfare have air conditioners! As a child we only had 3 channels on a 19 inch black and white TV and I was my dads remote control now we can watch color new release movies on our cell phones! In the 50's and 60's people actually starved today there is no reason to go hungry with all the help that is available from the government! Yeah the "good old days" were only good for those who could afford it!
@@living-wellon-less5669 - One main reason we can live better than before (if not well) is bc durable goods are comparatively far cheaper than in the past. Even just in the 90's when personal computers happened, no matter what I couldn't find a decent one for under $1200 which would be what today? Around $1600-1800? Took me 2 solid years to save up for it. Not so food, but at least those of us with access can garden to help out there. People on welfare can't be said to have it 'easy' in any respect. But thank God fewer outright starve. For the unhoused, I'm sure it's hell. .... Also in the 60's, the world still wasn't as hot as it's getting now. I don't want to go back to any nostalgic myths, but I'm still glad to be one of the first boomers. My race may be in the home stretch but that's okay too bc I know the final destination. See you there, I trust. :) BTW, with a little knowledgeable and patient lurking, a top of the line Samsung Chromebook can be had open-box for not much over $100 these days. If anyone reading this likes Chromebooks the way I do, there's a dandy website for gently used ones called chromebooksrus. It's a dot com of course. Wouldn't meet JD's needs at all, but for most users they're excellent.
@@frostyfrances4700 I know why we live better, the 1960's was better than the 1930's and the 1930's was better than the 1890's it's called progress! And that global warming nonsense doesn't phase me, I live in Alabama and so far this year it is the coolest I have ever experienced, right now it's 65 normally this time of year you're hiding in the shade or in the house with the air conditioner and we've only had 2 hot days this year so don't waste your breath on me about that garbage!
@@living-wellon-less5669 - Why the sudden anger over the mere mention of science? Nobody said every day would be hotter than the previous. We're entering a period of wild temperature swings, the hot sometimes hotter than ever as well as what we would've called unseasonal coolness. But that's no reason to be hot under the collar for nothing at all. Peace to you. You're gonna need it, dear heart. Science is nothing but the honorable and *reverent* study of God's handiwork. If that seems like garbage to you, it's still not actual garbage. Let's try to walk together as fellow humans rather than turning up the heat on purpose. That's not going to do any of us any good.
Imagine how frightened and confused she must have been at such a young age. However I'm glad she ended up where she did and was taking care of had a good life. Sad she didn't get to see her parents and they didn't get to see her... i guess at least they found out what had happened to her and that she was okay
Her mother found out, her dad died never knowing what happened
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller How sad...
Many thing's in life I've been grateful for & this channel I found the other day is definitely one of the highlights of my life. I live in south western part of Va & have so since I was born in 1982 & the stories of Appalachia is so fascinating & even more so with the way You tell it. God Bless & keep up the magnificent beautiful work.
What a wonderful comment, Thank you so much Erik, welcome to the channel. We are so glad to have you here!
I knew when you said the New River and then the Kanawha River, that they had crossed into what will be West Virginia. ❤ from West Virginia
Yup- they went thru West by God Virginia
Incredibly amazing story, you do bring the fantastic tales to me! ❤
Thank you so much ❤️
This is kind of like the Francis Slocum story. She was take by the Delaware Indians and ended up in Miami county in Peru Indiana. He brothers found her at a old age but knew she was there sister because of her finger was cut off as a your child. She also stay with her Miami Indian family. These are both great true story’s . Love reading these kind of history stories.
Thank you Cynthia!
wow!!! this gave me goosebumps!!! it’s like stories you find in the Bible
Thank you Mary
😂.....No its nothing like story from the Bible, Which I'm GLAD
Possible modern day equivalent currently STILL MISSING poor little vulnerable innocent SUMMER MOON UTAH WELLS.
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What a great story! Of course, for her first family, it must have been horrendous not to know what was become of her, but even if it began horribly due to an awful man, I'm glad Caty found such great people who actually cared for her enough to make her part of their family, and that she lived a full life!
a tragic, beautiful, tragic, inspiring, sad story all rolled into one
Like the Greenbrier story, I am very familiar with this.
Again, hearing it told by someone who is from the region gives it an entirely new complexion.
Thanks JD, for another wonderful story.
I think this is #9 or #10 for today.
I can’t get enough
You're gonna catch up pretty soon, but dont worry, I put out new ones every Saturday, and Sunday on @theappalachiachannel
You have such a wonderful way of telling stories. Thank you for sharing your talent with us. I can’t get enough!
Thank you so much! I try to tell them my own way
A very interesting story. You have me hooked now
🙏 thank you
My family is from Grayson County VA. I have never heard this, it's unusual to hear stories about these parts. Thank you for sharing some of the history of our parts, even if they aren't pretty.
Thank you Stephanie, email me at theappalachianstoryteller@gmail.com and ill send you a free Appalachian storyteller sticker for your car!
My Family Comes Out Of Grayson Virginia For 10 Generations. My Sister And I Knew Somewhat Of Katy Sage. I Believe Her Family Is Related To The Cornetts
Who's Your Kin? I'm A Parks.
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The land was contested by the colonists, not the other way around. The “natives” as you so eloquently put it, were rightfully fighting to keep their land.
Thank you for your kind words
Just a note as I have heard it - none of the American lands were "owned" by any native Americans. It changed hands many times. Therefore when other nationalities came into the picture, it was really no different than what was already happening. Each side had those who were evil and brutal and also those who were generous and kind.
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My last name is Sage, by marriage, Ive never heard any storys with my last name.... this is so tragic for Catys birth family but this woman was accepted by these people to become one of their own, wow...
Welcome Sage
What an encredible story!!
Thank you Crystal
WOW!! I have never heard this story before!! Then you cut sharing it with us!! I HOPE to hear many more, just like it. HIGH 5! GREAT VIDEO!!!
Thank You!
Well told. Actually gave me chills, especially at the end. Really well done. Thank you. Subscribing now.
Welcome, glad to have you here!
Thank you good teacher. For another historical Appalachian story.. I had never heard of Katy sage. But truly a intresting and fascinating life that she did live. Very mysterious that the old witch was right.
Thank you Elizabeth
That was such a well told story. You have an amazing voice and these stories suit it so well.
Thank you Emma! ❤️
Thank you for sharing this incredible story
Thank you Stone Reaper!
A beautiful and sad story. Happy to know that even though she had been taken from her birth family, she grew up loved and cherished.
I was raised and still live on Grayson Co and remember the stories of Caty Sage. I still trout fish Elk Creek Fox Creek Wilson Creek and cant imagine the rugged trails crossed over from her farm. I never knew the exact history on the story thank you for this.
Thanks Kevin- that man had to have been a skilled woodsman
I do enjoy your storytelling my entire heritage is from the Appalachias.
Thank you Nancy!
Thanks for the story.i was hoping that she would see her mother again ..but at least she servived and had a happy life anyway.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for these wonderful stories. My family was from many if the areas way way back and I enjoy the stories very much.
I’m happy you’re enjoying them. Thank you so much.
Back in the day, we all had a grandma Moses. She was the wisest, and yes, a witch, that everyone respected and went to for most everything.
you lived a good life
Enjoyed replay thanks for sharing your channel with us 😀 😊 👍🏼
Thank you 🙏
Another wonderful story! Love your voice! Thanks.
Thank you Libby!
Well done, bravo excellent storytelling, but astonishing story into think that's just one story of one family and to think every person has their own story in this world. It's nice just getting to take a peek inside one from that far back. Excellent, I really enjoyed it.
Thank you Sir!
What a heartbreaking yet heartwarming story
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That was a tremendous story , loved it , a seat hanger
Thank you, brother. Glad you enjoyed it.
WOW! That was an amazing story! Thanks JD 😎👍👍
Thanks Kathy, have a great weekend
@@TheAppalachianStoryteller Thanks... hope you have a wonderful and safe Memorial Day weekend 🤗❤️
Another Amazing Story told by a true wordsmyth.❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much my friend, have a fabulous day
*I've just visited Appalachia and I have an admiration of the fortitude of those who learned to survive in that beautiful yet harsh terrain.* *Now I need to hear more of their stories.*
you've come to the right place
Thank you for the bitter sweet story 👏👏👏👏
Thank you so much, my friend
I, too, ask our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ to protect the defenseless children and the elderly. These two groups of victims are mostly defenseless and really need to be cared for and protected by their loved ones. God bless and keep them safe from all evil. Amen.
amen
Amen 🙏🏻
Great story and your voice is so calming but serious and informative
Thanks so much, I appreciate that!
Story telling at it's finest! I thoroughly enjoyed the time spent listening to ya this morning, JD! See ya next time.
Thank you Scott! Have a good en
Whata fascinating story,,, was glued to every word...
Thank you Robin!
great story JD, thanks for another great narration,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Thank you 🙏
Thank-You for this story. When it first began, I thought it was going to end with Caty being KILLED; so at least she survived. But the HEARTACHE her parents and brothers went through is soooooooo SAD. At least now they are ALL TOGETHER, NEVER TO BE SEPERATED AGAIN!!!!
Thank you ❤️
Once again fantastic. You should consider writing a book about all these stories. I'll pre-purchase the first one as long as you autograph it.
Maybe one day me friend, appreciate your kind words and support of the channel
JD I love your voice! So authentic to this time period!
Thank you so much ♥️
Huge supporter of your Amazing work and Timeless Talent 🤌🏽📵👍🏽💙 Much Love From Southern Louisiana
Thank you so much, Preciate the kind words and encouragement
love the story. thank you
thank you!
I got to hear more about this brave woman.
It’s a great story for sure
Such a sad story of a five year old, but what she endured was terrible. Yet she lived to become queen of her family. I was heartbroken to hear that most of her siblings passed away never seeing her again. Life can be full of harsh realities yet God always has a good plan! ❤
Amen my friend
Seriously you this as a good plan to kidnap and whatever else to a small child. Religion is fucked up seriously.
Another great story!! 😍
Thank you Amy