Path of Exile (3.22) - Fury of Nature Poison Molten Strike Pathfinder ft. Affliction Charges

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  • @Tripleyou
    @Tripleyou ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Now this. This is a build video

  • @hauntcharged
    @hauntcharged ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every video of yours is so digestible and answers every question I might otherwise have.

  • @honordevs
    @honordevs ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic build idea. I love seeing videos like these; super inspiring and makes me want to dive back into my 5000 open PoB ideas.

  • @AtlasGcx
    @AtlasGcx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an academic report level guide. Great work!

  • @sergeantminor256
    @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *UPDATE:* It has come to my attention that Returning Projectiles Support is far better than Vicious Projectiles Support for this build. We're talking roughly *150% more total DPS (2.5x)* than shown in this video. This is in large part due to an apparent bug where the damage penalty on Returning Projectiles doesn't seem to apply to ailment damage. See proof here:
    th-cam.com/video/MLfUKB28yS0/w-d-xo.html
    However, even if the damage were not bugged, Returning Projectiles is still better than Vicious Projectiles by a wide margin (about 1.37x more DPS), so not using it from the start was an oversight on my part. I've updated the PoB to include the 20/23 Anomalous Returning Projectiles to which I have since switched.

    • @TorsteinTheFallen
      @TorsteinTheFallen ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing build. I love the ailment stuff you incorporated. Quite inovative.

    • @crabwithhat4683
      @crabwithhat4683 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, i really like how this build looks. Is it possible to league start with it ? or would you recommend to play this as a Second/third character

  • @undead_legion
    @undead_legion ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks sick, Fury of Nature is such a cool keystone. The tech with using chilled and shocked ground to also apply the ailments is sweet.
    I used Fury of Nature last league on a self shock lightning conduit raider, using ralakesh impatience + malachais loop to self shock. Fury of Nature easily let me hit max self shock and proliferation to create a shocking aura around me. LC does not remove shocks inflicted like this on enemies so you can just spam it.
    The other cool interaction, as you showed, is with leaderships price. Since I technically wasn’t inflicting a shock, but proliferating one inflicted on me, leaderships price doesn’t stop it. I didn’t scale as hard into non damaging ailment effect as you did, but since LC hits considerably harder it was still easy to hit max ailment effect. The chilled ground from vortex is something I hadn’t thought of, if I ever make the build again I’ll add that as well.

  • @pp_hermy4854
    @pp_hermy4854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The shocks and chill applied by not you sources aren't affected by your non-damaging ailment effect as seen by the 10% chill for a frame at 10:19. Love how you organize the video and took the time to separate it by parts. You're explanations are easily digestible and presented clearly.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Shocked and chilled ground created by the player are definitely affected by the player's ailment effect modifiers. Otherwise, ain't no way I'm inflicting 30% chill at all. The Vortex certainly doesn't hit hard enough to do that with the spell damage portion.
      I think the game's display of ailment numbers on enemies is a bit buggy. You can see a lot of weird flickering numbers on the ailment icons throughout the video (e.g. 20% brittle, 50% chill, etc.).

    • @pp_hermy4854
      @pp_hermy4854 ปีที่แล้ว

      @sergeantminor256 huh. you are right. I tested it again and this time my vortex chilling ground was affected. I've had also noticed that I've been getting the buggy display too as I sometimes see 60% chill which is impossible. What confused me was that on the wiki(the good one) it says that the chills aren't attributed to the creator. I guess that has nothing to do with inheriting your effect of non-damaging ailments.

  • @nazzyc
    @nazzyc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While it's an old video, I thought I'd air this anyway.
    Due to the absurd amount of hits the build does, you can use a Cobalt Jewel rolled with "Gain 3 Energy Shield per Enemy Hit with Attacks" to significantly increase the energy shield recovery.

  • @kinVoid
    @kinVoid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On the topic of Eternal Sacrifice uptime, a regular jewel with "Gain (2-3) Energy Shield per Enemy Hit with Attacks" also help a lot for skills that just fire a lot of proj, though it's hard to fit in more jewels with this particular setup. It's just something I never see done for some reason, even for Mahuxotl builds that definitely could take advantage of it at a low opportunity cost since they use rare jewels already

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm aware of that affix, but I think it would take a few of those jewels to make a noticeable difference. It would only make sense if I were already using several Abyss jewels. I've found that most of my builds can't even fit in rare jewels at all, except maybe cluster jewels. Too many good unique ones these days! Also, with instant leech giving ~40 ES on hit, I think the added 2-3 per jewel would be pretty negligible.

  • @joabtheharmless4051
    @joabtheharmless4051 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really happy to see that you are posting videos again. Your channel has helped me a lot to understand the details of the game's mechanics, and as usual this video is very informative.

  • @slouch186
    @slouch186 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks for explaining the motivation for your choices and the mechanics in depth.

  • @skinnysnorlax1876
    @skinnysnorlax1876 ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching this while tripping was an enlightening experience, lol.
    Great vids as always, sarge

  • @azkv_
    @azkv_ ปีที่แล้ว

    this build blew me away honestly! i wish i had some currency to try it out :( Will try it next league myb! So creative and interesting, underrated channel.

  • @nerotox813
    @nerotox813 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For your DPS calculation: Without any investment into less Proj speed or Conc effect you are looking at an around 25% hitrate for your balls -> so 1/4 proj will hit. This is what makes returning proj so strong -> all returning projectiles are guaranteed to hit, as long as you are close enough under the monster + the new returning projectiles gem downside does not apply to poison, making it effectively a 500% more multiplier for damage.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      If the damage multiplier doesn't affect poison, that has to be a bug, right? That's not consistent with the wording on the gem.
      If that's true, then it's an easy one-for-one swap with Vicious Projectiles. I'm going to test that right now.
      Also I have 20% increased projectile speed from Ballistics on the skill tree. I can avoid taking the node if it hurts my DPS enough, but I'd lose some stun avoidance from Heart of Oak.

    • @nerotox813
      @nerotox813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@sergeantminor256 Not sure if it's a bug, but yea it's inconsistent with the wording. th-cam.com/video/MLfUKB28yS0/w-d-xo.html

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nerotox813 That test looks pretty conclusive. Wow, that's wild. I'm uploading an Uber Uber Elder fight right now after swapping gems. It's a noticeable damage boost. Thanks for the receipts!

  • @Tyronis
    @Tyronis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you explored Returning Projectiles? The damage penalty to returning projectiles evidently does not apply to the ailments they inflict. Meaning it is essentially a 100% more damage multiplier for projectile ailment builds. Though the wiki says this behavior may be a bug.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't tried that! The way the gem is worded makes it sound like the damage penalty would apply to ailments, so if it does work then either the description isn't accurate or the behavior is bugged. I did consider using Nimis, though.

  • @kidzesty6303
    @kidzesty6303 ปีที่แล้ว

    This build deals with alot of the same problems as my poison fury of nature worber. I was a bit conflicted on affliction charges because you lost the hit dmg from frenzies anyways, but you laid the math out really clearly.
    Great video as always!

  • @insobyr9779
    @insobyr9779 ปีที่แล้ว

    very inspiring build, I got so many ideas from this video, thank you for sharing!

  • @TheRealNemesisX
    @TheRealNemesisX ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. There are many vids out there on glass cannon builds, I appreciate these ones just to show how far you can get going in a different direction, even if they don't make it to uber bosses, seeing how far they can go or how far you're prepared to push them is what makes the video interesting. Beyond that the build seems fine to me.. Would have been nice if you could have fitted in berserk in there, but it competes with far too much of what your doing.. so onto the next, grats on the 100.

  • @SuperRoxasXIII13
    @SuperRoxasXIII13 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn i feel like i grew a few brain cells by watching this video. thx for the in depth guide

  • @BIGPILGRIM420
    @BIGPILGRIM420 ปีที่แล้ว

    insanely good guide for a rad build

  • @bahamut458
    @bahamut458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This build so juicy in 3.25 with new Perfect Agony

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This build would need a few adjustments to optimize it for 3.25. The change to Vaal Pact makes Mahuxotl's Machination a lot less appealing for the build.

    • @bahamut458
      @bahamut458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sergeantminor256 yeah I think you do some combination of new watchers eye, dawn breaker, and or sublime vision for full ele > ele conversion. New Perfect Agony makes hitting ailment threshold easier not to mention other melee/pathfinder buffs.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bahamut458 How does it make hitting the threshold easier? Old PA had 30% less hit damage, but at least you kept your crit multi.
      I was thinking Font of Thunder + Watcher's Eye + Divine Flesh + Purity of Lightning for the damage shift, then Doppelganger Guise for phys mitigation.

    • @bahamut458
      @bahamut458 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sergeantminor256 true, hadn't factored the multi still applying to old PA hits.
      Good options for converting to all lightning. Really wish all fire wasn't mirror tier so I could use arctic armour to complete my stationary dream.

  • @barczi8
    @barczi8 ปีที่แล้ว

    To make the double corrupting mahuxotls a bit less frustrating you can use the power of hinekora.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      Given the cost of Hinekora's Lock compared to Mahuxotl's Machination, it's better to just brick the shields and move on.

  • @kidzesty6303
    @kidzesty6303 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fury of Nature, love that shit LOGIN

  • @gehirndoper
    @gehirndoper ปีที่แล้ว

    Great presentation as usual. I wonder if flagellant flasks with a bit more investment into uptime wouldn't be better than Overflowing Chalice, as you could probably also ditch evasion entirely.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      The evasion is important for making sure I don't die to multi-hit damage from large packs. I wouldn't want to drop it.

    • @gehirndoper
      @gehirndoper ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergeantminor256 With flagellant flasks you'd heal from multi-hits.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gehirndoper From what? The 4% mastery? That doesn't sound as good as evasion to me.

    • @gehirndoper
      @gehirndoper ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergeantminor256 Exactly. Not sure how good it would be on your build, but I had pathfinders with that tech before that would get healed from uber exarchs fire barrage with that tech. The advantage is that it works against any type of small hits, even DD boxes with enough mitigation.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gehirndoper I see. The thing with this build is that with Returning Projectiles and instant leech + life gain on hit, I've already got insane healing. What I need most is to reduce the damage I take, which is why evasion is an important layer.

  • @joshuabauer5119
    @joshuabauer5119 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would Nimis be a good Dmg boost for a more softcote approach? Loved the video mate.

  • @Groink1
    @Groink1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, great video as always. Very inspiring! Can you help me with a mechanical question? If you have CWDT+Steelskin, does the Steelskin already apply to the hit which causes Steelskin to trigger, or only to the hits thereafter?

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It does not apply to the hit that causes it to trigger. That's why I don't check the box for my max hit estimate.

    • @Groink1
      @Groink1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergeantminor256 Ah, so first the hit DPS gets calculated, then the damage gets added to the total, and if it exceeds the threshold of CWDT Steelskin gets triggered. Thanks!

  • @Diversifybonds
    @Diversifybonds ปีที่แล้ว

    Could drop steelskin for an ag setup with purity of elements/ice to enable taste of hate and watchers eye mod for 100% phys as ele. Not sure if that would be better than steelskin though even with kingmaker utility/damage.

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't have much experience with AG, so I don't know how reliable that would be. One other thought I had was that I could just use a granite flask instead of ToH. If 80% of phys is taken as fire then the remaining 20% would be small enough that a juiced up granite would probably make a difference. It would be worse than a jade flask for map clearing but for stuff like Uber Shaper it would be better, and it doesn't require any real changes to the build. There's also Progenesis, but I don't know if I would have 100% uptime on that.

  • @BrunoHenrique-gl7yu
    @BrunoHenrique-gl7yu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, any chance to update this amazing build for this version?

  • @spinalgrey3600
    @spinalgrey3600 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey mabe you have some ideas for badge of brotherhood slayer 10+max all charges character? i see some flicker strike but it looks so slow...

  • @joywen7840
    @joywen7840 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a great video but I have a few questions:
    1. Vicious projectile support in video but returning projectile support in pobb?
    2. Is it worth it to use the Nimis ring instead of one of the rare rings?

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1. I pinned a comment after uploading this video saying that Returning Projectiles is better than Vicious Projectiles. I also uploaded an Uber Uber Elder fight showcasing the build with Returning Projectiles.
      2. Yes, Nimis is probably best in slot if you can fit it in without messing up resists and attributes. It may even be worth trying to get reduced projectile speed into the build and dropping the 20% increased projectile speed that I have on the skill tree. These are changes that I didn't want to put in the work to change for my current character but are probably improvements overall.

    • @joywen7840
      @joywen7840 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergeantminor256Thanks :)

  • @WiredGuitars
    @WiredGuitars ปีที่แล้ว

    how are you still regening life even with mahuxotl's?
    btw love ur vids, by far the most educational stuff for poe out there IMO, which says a lot because POE has no shortage of really good informational content

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have overleech (Immortal Ambition) and recharge (Eternal Youth).
      Glad you're learning stuff from my videos!

  • @CTL
    @CTL ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe you're immune to sap (and similarly brittle) by not even being able to take lightning damage since I don't think there are any monster mods that allows non-lightning damage to sap

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the same thing, but apparently there are monsters (maybe rares?) that reflect ailments to you. I've definitely noticed myself being scorched, brittle, and sapped with maximum effect on a few occasions.

    • @CTL
      @CTL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergeantminor256 Ah yeah, the eater altar does have one where you can put ailments back on yourself. And I also just checked but the sap altar mod is also "All damage taken from hits can sap you" so that doesn't save you from there either. It might just be safe in Simulacrums

  • @erwrwer8695
    @erwrwer8695 ปีที่แล้ว

    why cloak of flames and not lightning coil for 10% extra phys as elemental

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      Primarily because my fire resistance is 90% and my lightning resistance is -30%.

  • @dubs1214
    @dubs1214 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are you get to 10 projectiles? I count: 3 (base), 2 (helm ench), 1 (fan of blades), 1 (multishot), 2 (tattoos)

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      Molten Strike fires 4 projectiles by default (1 base + 3 additional).

  • @polyporacea
    @polyporacea ปีที่แล้ว

    Это тот старый добрый дабл диппинг?

  • @Johnoez
    @Johnoez ปีที่แล้ว

    i'd really like to play this but i couldnt afford it, is there a 20div ish molten strike pathfinder build you would recommend? or alterations to this build that might let me fill that budget?

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, but I don't really keep up with conventional builds, so I don't know whom to recommend for a more traditional take on Molten Strike Pathfinder. If you do find one you like, I'm more than happy to help you eventually transition into Fury of Nature / Mahuxotl's Machination (when you have more funds). There's lots of places where you can use much cheaper alternatives and get maybe 80% of the power out of each slot.

    • @alvin4623
      @alvin4623 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could play the Eternal Damnation, Loreweave, Transcendence version of Poison MS Pathfinder. It's not quite as tanky but the DPS should be about the same or slightly better with Adrenaline from Tanu Ahi.

    • @Johnoez
      @Johnoez ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alvin4623 can you point me to a guide?

  • @AtlasGcx
    @AtlasGcx ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this build also viable on essentially all projectile based strike builds like LS or frost blade?

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      The concept of scaling poison and alternate ailments would work on lots of skills, not even just projectile ones. I originally wanted to do Frost Blades with this character but ended up going with Molten Strike because its single-target scales with additional projectiles. If I swapped to LS or FB, I could keep most of the build the same -- I'd just have to invest in pierce and stop investing in additional projectiles.

  • @famazyt
    @famazyt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    any update to this build?

  • @blahblahgdp
    @blahblahgdp ปีที่แล้ว

    Ugh dhould i just crack and abuse pf?

  • @olegpetrushak6754
    @olegpetrushak6754 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where do you guys get all this back end information on how Poe works? Bunch of code genius mathematicians playing this game, I tell you

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Some of it is from GGG. For example, the ailment effect formulas are posted in the wiki, and they reference official posts made by GGG staff (usually Mark).
      Some of it is datamined. The ailment threshold values, for instance, are shown on PoEDB.

  • @syhler1876
    @syhler1876 ปีที่แล้ว

    how will this build survive if no more tattoos :)

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The damage will go down without the two additional projectiles, it'll be a lot harder to balance attributes (especially if they fix the Returning Projectiles bug and you need to use Nimis), and it'll be much more annoying to get to 90% fire and chaos resist. That won't make it unplayable, but certainly not as good as it is now. If tattoos don't survive into the next expansion, maybe there will be some new power creep that compensates for it in this build.

  • @rascalk8163
    @rascalk8163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can add a Nimis ring to this build?

    • @bradleyjenkins8715
      @bradleyjenkins8715 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just use returning proj gem since it's currently bugged and poison dmg does not get the less dmg multiplier essentially making it deal 100% more dmg with poisons

  • @lucaltero
    @lucaltero 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi, is this alive in 3.23??
    how good (or bad) will it be without the tattos?

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I haven't tried to update this build for 3.23, but I think it's a lot harder to pull off without tattoos. I haven't played much of the current league, so to be honest I don't know all the new stuff they added that might compensate for the lack of tattoos.

    • @testolog
      @testolog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope, I just have try. Defence are not valuable, fire resists 90(I have 83) is possible to get with charm, but damage, even without a awaken gems should be about 1kk dps this is not, only 600k this is combined not full. But for me was important defence. That's is pretty sad, with 83 max resists convert physical to fire get not good effective life is 20k. Probably I do something wrong. I hope because -50 divine, what can't farm anymore. I will review what I have done incorrect but wt the moment this build is not worst it.

  • @marcomamone9852
    @marcomamone9852 ปีที่แล้ว

    how should I level for this build?

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not the person to ask about optimal leveling strategies. I leveled with Galvanic Arrow of all things, haha. You can technically transition into the build as soon as you have enough levels to equip all the important pieces, but just keep in mind that keeping your two highest attributes equal (for Leadership's Price) can be annoying if you're still making changes to the gear/tree.

    • @marcomamone9852
      @marcomamone9852 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sergeantminor256yeah thanks!

  • @alshamary2012
    @alshamary2012 ปีที่แล้ว

    progonesis ?

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      I opt out of Progenesis for two reasons.
      First, the build is already resilient enough against hit damage. Its main weakness is DoTs, against which Progenesis does nothing. I'd rather have a Jade Flask. Although it also doesn't protect against DoTs, it gets 30% increased effect from my Ascendancy, gives me a nice layer of evasion to space out hits, and enables Ghost Dance.
      Second, I don't have the flask sustain to maintain 100% uptime on Progenesis, even with Overflowing Chalice. Magic flasks can roll increased charge recovery, which helps offset the lack of flask mods that other Pathfinder builds get from a rare belt and the skill tree.

  • @drschafsz87
    @drschafsz87 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would Taste of hate not be taken as fire damage with the shield?

    • @sergeantminor256
      @sergeantminor256  ปีที่แล้ว

      It would not. "Damage taken as" modifiers don't chain together like that.