Ahora se entiende el ataque la Aviación Naval Argentina del 25 de mayo de 1982 !! El blanco de los exocets era el HMS Hermes, pero por proximidad fue impactado el Atlantic Conveyor, de similar tamaño. Gracias por el excelente documento histórico !!! Now you understand the attack on the Argentine Naval Aviation on May 25, 1982!! The target of the exocets was HMS Hermes, but the Atlantic Conveyor, of similar size, was hit by proximity. Thank you for the excellent historical document!!
Looking at RAF GR1 and RFAA FRS.1 Harriers land in abysmal weather with two tanks, two AIM-9L, and gunpods, I keep rememebering that under their wings they have 30-40 knots of wind. 20-22 knots from ship's steaming into wind, and weather wind in Atlantic. 30-40 knots under wing for Harrier adds a lot of lift, so it can land with heavier GW then on shore with 5 knots wind. Deck crwss must have gone through a lot of hot coffee and tea, with cold tablets. This looks like miserable working conditions.
I was onboard Hermes then, thank you for this and the goosebumps it gave me. I shared it with family and close friends , ‘ now they understand ‘ they basically all said.
If HMS Ark Royal hadn't been decommissioned or another CATOBAR carrier had replaced it and could operate Buccaneers the Argentinians wouldn't have invaded in the first place. Or maybe if Hermes hadn't been converted and still operated Buccaneers. For those of you who don't what a Buccaneer is it was a very capable long range carrier based strike aircraft, could fly very low and very fast and would have taken out the runway at Port Stanley and any other air defence and ground positions.
the Royal Navy's shift from CATOBAR to STOBAR arrangement took away a carrier strike group's true capabilities . . . Royal Navy knew this well but couldn't do much due to financial constraints that plagued Britain considerably . . .
Hi, I saw many of these footages in pieces in the differents documentaries I've seen of this war. I've never seen this footage of the Atlantic Conveyor . The remastering is very good!!!!! Thanks!!!!!
Fantastic short film of Hermes on its way to war. I am just reading a book of the SAS and SBS taking back south Georgia and the very start of the conflict and the loss of Troopers in the Helicopter that was moving the troop from one ship to the next.
You could have completed the story by stating that Hermes was sold to the Indian Navy in 1986 & became INS Vikrant. 809 Sqdn did not exist down south, because when the aircraft were split between the two carriers, they became an integral part of 800&801 Sqdns. I know because I was there throughout the conflict as part of 801 Sqdn
Hi Philip. Glad you like the video, hope it brought back some good memories. With regards 809, yes, you're right in that the squadron split between 800 & 801, but 809 still had a command structure, with Cdr Tim Gedge being consulted with operational requirements of 'his' aircraft. 'Sharkey' Ward and Andy Auld would have meetings with Tim Gedge regularly to discuss how things were going, and if there was any specific jobs to be undertaken.
Funny thing is if their Argentina's Islands how come no Argentina's ever lived There? And America and Europe thought we would not win, but we did. No thankyou to France your missiles sold to Argentina 🤢. My our Boys rest in Peace thankyou 🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧✌
France sold missiles to Argentina before the war, once Argentina took the islands, France stopped selling stuff to Argentina, and cut ties with Argentina, know your facts.
Realmente impresionante todo el movimiento en esa campaña para sacar a los invasores de sus hermosas islas. En hora buena para todos ellos. Felicitaciones y bendiciones.
Incorrect. The Navy doesn't operate the McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II and never operated the first generation Hawker Siddeley AV-8A Harrier either. The Brits had a lot of financial and technical help primarily from the United States in order to produce the "British" Harrier which is largely unacknowledged by most in the UK. “Without American support, it’s entirely possible there’d never even have been a Harrier; at least not one that existed beyond the confines of Ralph Hooper’s sketchbook. As early as 1959, NASA saw enough potential in the embryonic British jump jet design to provide encouraging technical reports. And while the Hawker board might have sanctioned building two P.1127 prototypes without any official backing, it was American money from an organization called the Mutual Weapons Development Program based in Paris - a sort of military start-up incubator - that largely financed the construction of the expensive BE.53 Pegasus engines on which flying prototypes were dependent. Indeed it was the same agency that had introduced Sir Stanley Hooker to Michel Wibault’s Gyroptere in the first place. Such was the lack of British government interest or support that one senior USAF General was sure that without intervention ‘an all British P.1127 would die a natural death - it would just wither away.’ And so the Pentagon proposed the creation of a multinational squadron to conduct a series of trials using a development of the P.1127 known as the Kestrel.” Harrier 809, Rowland White, pg. 75
On April 2, 1982, Argentina took possession of the Malvinas Islands, a territory usurped by the English in 1833. The occupation began a war that would end two months later - on June 14, 1982 - with more than 650 dead. on the Argentine side and more than 250 dead, from the English armed forces. The war was the drowning blow that the dying dictatorship tried to give in order to perpetuate itself in power. Below we reproduce two dispatches from Rodolfo Terragno, who was in London when the conflict broke out and became a correspondent for the conflict for the Diario de Caracas. In the first dispatch, “The ‘humiliation’ plunges Thatcher into a crisis”, dated April 2, Terragno details how the occupation of the Malvinas was experienced in Great Britain and presents the general characteristics of the Malvinas Islands. In the second, “London has known since 1910 that it has no right over the Falklands,” pointing out that since 1910 various officials from the British Foreign Ministry have questioned the right of the United Kingdom over the archipelago.
Very important historic film ,with the great sacrifice of all the members of the ship
Thank you kindly...
Really cool historical vid, thanks for posting!
You are very welcome...
Ahora se entiende el ataque la Aviación Naval Argentina del 25 de mayo de 1982 !! El blanco de los exocets era el HMS Hermes, pero por proximidad fue impactado el Atlantic Conveyor, de similar tamaño. Gracias por el excelente documento histórico !!!
Now you understand the attack on the Argentine Naval Aviation on May 25, 1982!! The target of the exocets was HMS Hermes, but the Atlantic Conveyor, of similar size, was hit by proximity. Thank you for the excellent historical document!!
You are very welcome...
Thats a really interesting video, British carrier ops in wartime c1982. Great footage all round.
Looking at RAF GR1 and RFAA FRS.1 Harriers land in abysmal weather with two tanks, two AIM-9L, and gunpods, I keep rememebering that under their wings they have 30-40 knots of wind. 20-22 knots from ship's steaming into wind, and weather wind in Atlantic. 30-40 knots under wing for Harrier adds a lot of lift, so it can land with heavier GW then on shore with 5 knots wind.
Deck crwss must have gone through a lot of hot coffee and tea, with cold tablets. This looks like miserable working conditions.
I was onboard Hermes then, thank you for this and the goosebumps it gave me. I shared it with family and close friends , ‘ now they understand ‘ they basically all said.
You are very welcome! Thank you for all you did aboard the Happy H, and the rest of the task force. ❤
Great Planes, incridible machines and Enginering. Brave and determinated Warriors !
If HMS Ark Royal hadn't been decommissioned or another CATOBAR carrier had replaced it and could operate Buccaneers the Argentinians wouldn't have invaded in the first place. Or maybe if Hermes hadn't been converted and still operated Buccaneers. For those of you who don't what a Buccaneer is it was a very capable long range carrier based strike aircraft, could fly very low and very fast and would have taken out the runway at Port Stanley and any other air defence and ground positions.
there would have been 43 squadron also on ark royal witch had f4s
if if if...; If Argentinians were less stupid and have waited to have more AM39 exocet.... They began the war with only 5
Not forgetting of course the other Naval Air Squadrons, 737, 815, 829 and 845 & 848.
...and 801, 809...etc...
814 & 820 !
the Royal Navy's shift from CATOBAR to STOBAR arrangement took away a carrier strike group's true capabilities . . . Royal Navy knew this well but couldn't do much due to financial constraints that plagued Britain considerably . . .
Yes, you're kinda right, but with the Sea Harrier they had an aircraft that could operate in the harsh conditions of the South Atlantic.
SEA HARRIER IS A AIRCRAFT I LIKE MOST OF HARRIER VARIANTS
Hi,
I saw many of these footages in pieces in the differents documentaries I've seen of this war.
I've never seen this footage of the Atlantic Conveyor .
The remastering is very good!!!!! Thanks!!!!!
You are very welcome Tony. Glad you enjoyed it...
Fantastic short film of Hermes on its way to war. I am just reading a book of the SAS and SBS taking back south Georgia and the very start of the conflict and the loss of Troopers in the Helicopter that was moving the troop from one ship to the next.
You could have completed the story by stating that Hermes was sold to the Indian Navy in 1986 & became INS Vikrant.
809 Sqdn did not exist down south, because when the aircraft were split between the two carriers, they became an integral part of 800&801 Sqdns.
I know because I was there throughout the conflict as part of 801 Sqdn
Hi Philip. Glad you like the video, hope it brought back some good memories. With regards 809, yes, you're right in that the squadron split between 800 & 801, but 809 still had a command structure, with Cdr Tim Gedge being consulted with operational requirements of 'his' aircraft. 'Sharkey' Ward and Andy Auld would have meetings with Tim Gedge regularly to discuss how things were going, and if there was any specific jobs to be undertaken.
Yes, in the end Hermes outlived Invincible....
RIP Sharkey.
It was a mistake to axe the Harrier. Do they really think the F-35 can replace this wonderful aircraft?
Was it a mistake for McDonnell Douglas to correct all of the design deficiencies in the original and produce the Harrier II as well?
Pretty impressive I remember it like yesterday. Was in my last year at Leeds Uni.
Superbe ! Beautiful ! The White Man Magic !
one should write Rhe fleet air arm is coming and nothing else, comprende ??????
Why? This video focuses on HMS Hermes as part of the wider Task Force.
Christ, even the pinkies were out painting !
Well, they had to do something useful! 😁
😂
Funny thing is if their Argentina's Islands how come no Argentina's ever lived There? And America and Europe thought we would not win, but we did. No thankyou to France your missiles sold to Argentina 🤢. My our Boys rest in Peace thankyou 🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧🌹🇬🇧✌
France sold missiles to Argentina before the war, once Argentina took the islands, France stopped selling stuff to Argentina, and cut ties with Argentina, know your facts.
Realmente impresionante todo el movimiento en esa campaña para sacar a los invasores de sus hermosas islas. En hora buena para todos ellos. Felicitaciones y bendiciones.
Harriers British Engineering at its best; still used in the US Navy today….
Incorrect. The Navy doesn't operate the McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II and never operated the first generation Hawker Siddeley AV-8A Harrier either.
The Brits had a lot of financial and technical help primarily from the United States in order to produce the "British" Harrier which is largely unacknowledged by most in the UK.
“Without American support, it’s entirely possible there’d never even have been a Harrier; at least not one that existed beyond the confines of Ralph Hooper’s sketchbook. As early as 1959, NASA saw enough potential in the embryonic British jump jet design to provide encouraging technical reports. And while the Hawker board might have sanctioned building two P.1127 prototypes without any official backing, it was American money from an organization called the Mutual Weapons Development Program based in Paris - a sort of military start-up incubator - that largely financed the construction of the expensive BE.53 Pegasus engines on which flying prototypes were dependent. Indeed it was the same agency that had introduced Sir Stanley Hooker to Michel Wibault’s Gyroptere in the first place. Such was the lack of British government interest or support that one senior USAF General was sure that without intervention ‘an all British P.1127 would die a natural death - it would just wither away.’ And so the Pentagon proposed the creation of a multinational squadron to conduct a series of trials using a development of the P.1127 known as the Kestrel.” Harrier 809, Rowland White, pg. 75
On April 2, 1982, Argentina took possession of the Malvinas Islands, a territory usurped by the English in 1833. The occupation began a war that would end two months later - on June 14, 1982 - with more than 650 dead. on the Argentine side and more than 250 dead, from the English armed forces. The war was the drowning blow that the dying dictatorship tried to give in order to perpetuate itself in power. Below we reproduce two dispatches from Rodolfo Terragno, who was in London when the conflict broke out and became a correspondent for the conflict for the Diario de Caracas. In the first dispatch, “The ‘humiliation’ plunges Thatcher into a crisis”, dated April 2, Terragno details how the occupation of the Malvinas was experienced in Great Britain and presents the general characteristics of the Malvinas Islands. In the second, “London has known since 1910 that it has no right over the Falklands,” pointing out that since 1910 various officials from the British Foreign Ministry have questioned the right of the United Kingdom over the archipelago.