I believe he’s more remembered because of his attitude and the way he acted. That’s why lots of gangsters like him and them are the ones that keep him alive. Even wannabe gangsters Tupac touched. Even people that wish they had the balls to say what they want are fans of him. If you say no…. Than tell me this. Pac and his music let’s say he just did his music. But in the streets he wasn’t in the presents of gangs and didn’t say shit openly while in the public. Tell me would he be as big now? Under those circumstances? If you are sane and comprehend what I just said . Would he be the same now. And I said no? He wouldn’t be talked about this long. So he is remembered more for the controversy he did than his music. Tupac doesnt act the way he did if he wasn’t with the mob
One other thing I meant to post with this… thanks for the like and it just reminded me. I’m no square posting this shit. Im what people call in the street a real one. I done did dirt, done hustled drugs and not no small shit. I lived off of the money. Didn’t have no job. But I say these things because I was around these kind of people. Many people from all walks of life from killers to squares. I knew real gangsters and the way 2pac was brought in the mix of being mob. Is fugazi… mob James ain’t the only one upset about 2pac just being let in. Lots of members felt a certain kind of way about that. They may not have said it out loud, but they don’t have to. 2pac was killed by bloods. Bloods/cops. Possibly by dudes from the same set. Maybe not buntry, neck bone or any of them close to pac. I’m talking the ones in the set that wasn’t included in the whole Hollywood treatment group. I’m talking about real bangers that may have seen that whole act as an insult to the work they done put in. PAC was not a gangster, he never was. The whole reason why he’s dead is because of his own actions. You ever hear what happens to people when they want to be the center of attention? I’ll tell you what happens to those people. Shit happens to them and 8x out of 10 it’s negative. When you go sticking your nose in someone else’s garbage or bring your garbage, your business to the public? Ain’t nothing good about either. It’s so bad for 2pac because first off he already hated by gov. He comes from a former panther and not just any panther but one who got over on the gov. So automatically he is hated. What did he do to cool the situation? He put his nose in others business and shot what he saw was two white men. Come to learn the cops. That’s not what he needed. Had he knew they was cops, he ain’t shooting them. But he brought on more intense hatred to himself by getting involved. He’s already hated! What else did he do? Well he kept hanging around stupid people and got a sexual assault charge and that’s a title no one likes let alone give another reason for police to want you more. That’s his personal life. So now in his professional life he brings drama to work and in the midst of making film he and his good buddies come on a set and jump. Not fight. Jump one of the film directors? He also continues to talk more crap on many people involving the studio shooting. You can only blame one, but he was blaming everyone but the rest of the attendees at that studio. Their was a lot of people at that studio. But he just handpicked who he wanted heat with. One being jimmy and when it comes to henchmen that includes Haitian jack and company. You got you guys there. But he went even further to blame big because he was just there. Tell me this. What if big wasn’t there? I wonder would he be that crazy to still stick with the HE KNEW AND DIDNT TELL ME.? It’s clear he didn’t like puff and Andre Harrell. He knew big had no control over what jimmy and his people did to him. Those guys were extorting them also. So he gets in a fight with suge, their been statements made by bodyguards that pac was mad and that money was being stolen from him. There is talks of him saying he’s out after makaveli, he did the audit on his home boy. And remember he wants out, he had to fight to get money when time came to get paid. If this is me… and my business partner is fuckin me. Clearly no trust. I don’t trust anyone fuckin wit my money. That’s my livelyhood. So why the fuck is this man attending this fight with this individual I can no longer trust. Why am I going. Better yet. Why would I ride with him and not my homies who is do trust and bodyguard? It’s clear he doubted his gut, he was careless and probably a bit pussy. All the signs were there if what could happen. You got contracts that were needing to be signed to break away from this company, and lining up your next venture makaveli records. If those was in play. Why put yourself in such predicament? You are the soul provider of your family. Lots of people depend on you? Why would you do that?? Because ladies and gentlemen it’s one of the two. The man wasn’t smart and very stupid…. Or he quit on his family and sacrificed himself and do you know what else it was for? Just to say or leave this world…. But at least I wasn’t no punk and I didn’t go out like a sucka…. Remember that saying Richard Pryor said on Harlem nights…. What he said to his son Quck? Here lies a man he died at 36 but he ain’t no punk!! What did Mr Pryor say after? that’s bs! To die and say he wasn’t no punk. But do you know. When you die, when you’re 89. You got your kids around you and your grand kids around you.? That’s Cool!! Remember what is said here brothers and sisters. You have e a choice. What I can take from Mr Shakur is. Don’t be like me, do it better and make the most intelligent choice. That’s to live…. That knowledge I just kicked. If I was a Blackman and I had a platform like in entertainment. If I spoke that same speech… I would be looked at as a dick Gregory, Malcom, or just a leader activist of my people. There is righteousness in the person standing by you. It’s just we tend to refuse to not listen. Because they aren’t famous?? Wisemen and women are around it’s just you didn’t focus in on what was being said.
@stryfetc1 I wasn't there and won't pretend to know what happened, but from what I have seen he loved nip and worked to build his brand. I doubt he was involved
@stryfetc1 on the hot97 interview recently he said him and nip got back on good terms, and nip wanted to bring him back into the music, he was in nipseys “rap niggas video” and gave him an award at some show right before nip passed....basically they became cool again before the nip passing.
Pac stories never get old. Like I said no rapper breathing or dead ever be able to be on Pac level. This man gone 25 years later and still praised as he was alive today all over the globe. Long Live 🐐 Makaveli The Don aka Tupac Amaru Shakur Pinnacle of this Rap sh**. Yes Sirrr 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Big U not being completely honest here... Kurupt and Snoop were dissing Bad Boy right after their trailer got shot up. All this bullshit about Pac being the only one dissing folks is not true lol snoop and them just switched up aftet the fact and made Pac look like he was wilding
But Pac was wilding. Period. No matter who else was on that bullshit with him. Look where it got him and look at where the ones who fell back on that shit are now.
Ok, I like all these artist. I've heard nearly all thier music.....many times. The dogg pound has 0 songs dissing the East Coast before 95. Give me some songs please 🙏???
Say what u wanna say about Pac but guess what? nobody is mentioned and admired more than him! Shit aint been right since he left, every damn store and website has Tupac shirts all over it etc.. He's the best ever respect that man for doing so much by the age of 25.
MOBB DEEP WAS THE ONLY GROUP OR ARTIST FROM N.Y. RESPONDING TO 2PAC DIRECTLY, THAT'S THE FACTS.....EVERYBODY ELSE WAS THROWING SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES OUT THERE!!!!! MOBB DEEP THE ONLY ONES I RESPECT CUZ THEY HAD THE BALLS TO DO IT!!!! EVERYBODY ELSE WAS QUITE AND SCARED!!! FACTS!!!!
@@illmatic9096 don't you know Bad Boys move in silence and violence? If you really want to do something to somebody you don't say names. Mobb Deep never said 2Pac's name on "LA, LA" or "Drop a Gem". Prodigy did on a mixtape once.
Pac dissed bad boy, Mobb deep, the firm, Chino xl, dr dre, Wendy Williams, ll cool j, de la soul, da brat, the fugees and the list goes on😂😂😂 Lyrically Pac buried all of em .
@@JudahKeyz Wendy dated B.IG and stayed disrespecting him.. LL, Mobb deep, Fugees sent shots at him(Wyclef is Haitian Jack cousin).. De La soul dissed him and his style.. Chino XL disrespected 2pac as man, sayin he was raped in jail.... da brat sided with bad boy and stuck her nose in something that had nothing to with her.. Dre was a key to snoop's freedom during the trial, all he had to do was show up and testify to prove the supposed witness was lying, but he didn't and Pac was loyal so he saw that as disloyalty to their friend Snoop... Nas was the only misunderstanding & they squashed it
Yeah I get those who said something 1st. But there was alot of people who never said anything to him and just because they were cool with Biggie and Badboy he dissed them. Like Lil'Kim once said in an interview I never ever had a conversation with Pac, met him but we never spoke. So I had no clue why he dissed me. He had a problem with Biggie that was between them she said I would have stayed out of it and left Biggie to deal with it, but he starting dissing a couple of us which was abit mad.
And I've heard other interviews with artists who have said even tho we were cool with Biggie we loved Pac and his music and as an artist he inspired us, we respected him. But then he started dissin us and it was jsit out of nowhere.
@@JudahKeyz nah anybody who was on bad boy was getting it.. that's just a must.. but like Pac said in hit em up, ppl started opening their mouths with an opinion about him attacking bad boy... they were mostly throwing shots on the low though and I can prove unlike most of these Pac fans blindly following him just because...
@@tedbundydagod but that was after big got them shot at in NY right? My timeline could be off. They never put that track out so I never look at it like a serious diss.
@Boochie Nem that’s a good questions.. it might be after Big went on the radio and said that. But on the real thought that NY 87 is a flat out diss to NewYork as a whole. The WestCoast act like they innocent to the EastCoast WestCoast bullshit. Shit we was rob of a lot of great artists because of that bs. Smh
@@tedbundydagod I would have done the same thing. Think about all the ny rappers that use to shoot videos movies ect...on the west and go home unharmed. But when the west does a video in NYC we get shot at? Then big said 2pac and the dog pound I never understood to this day why he said pac. He just got out most people had no clue there were a problem with big and pac. I'm from midwest so I have no dog in the fight but from outside looking in it definitely looks like NYC pour the gas on that fire.
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I'm from Seattle but about 6 months after 9*11 I got thee opportunity to go 2 New York for work and I was ready to go the very second I was offered thee opportunity! I spent 2 years living at Queen's & 2 years living a couple of miles outside of Boston in Stoneham, Mass. Anyways while in New York I remember that 1 of the 2 hip hop stations on the FM Dial had a Tupac Tribute/Memory Hour the station would play back to back to back Pac tracks as well as celebrity stories about Pac as well as listeners/fans calling in and adding there thought on Pac! It was nothing but 1000% Love being sent out to Pac via New York City Radio Waves no disrespect to B.I.G. (never that!) but he wasn't getting that play & love like that back there then! I want to say that they did that hour Pac love thing (and that's just what I'm calling it to memorialize what my ears often witnessed while working at N.Y.C.) but I think it was an everyday thing Monday thru Friday with a 1 hour time slot dedicated to Tupac Talk & Song Play! I've had a brain aneurysm and a couple surgeries because of that and my memories often get stuck in my brains clutter so if anyone can recall what I'm talking about and fill in the blanks for me like what station was it, was it every night or every Friday or once a month, who the d. J. Was that put that together, & etc I'd appreciate it from the bottom of my ❤️ for real! Peace*Love*Music From Seattle Y'all! 206 😷🤐😷
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Kurupt held down the track basically alone with Snoop on the hook, the OG version of LA LA was more of a diss track with the intro than the released version, although Trag held it down on the LA LA track, Prodigy should’ve got a verse in my opinion although he left his one for the Nas track Live Nigga Rap
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@@orlandobabylaneanderson5231 dude u have a pic of a Orlando anderson as ur profile pic if u not a fan that's fine but don't be calling another man gay and have another dude as yo profile pic that got clout because of the artist u dissing 😂
U winning wit this one big homie the whole podcast u have up there are solid individuals.I Love when king and Queens get together n make money that's the definition of being Gangster
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@@CoolTy23 Yeh & then he got killed by niggaz from the same place he was claiming was better .. go figure ...Pac was all ova the place , confused & had a identity crisis
Big U said Dogg Pound’s “New York, New York” record was showing NY respect. That’s something new. NY cats always had respect for Kurupt cause he could straight spit. He was and LA dude but came from Philly so his understanding of wordplay was relatable. The thing that came across as disrespect is making a song called NY NY and then on the song saying “...the night I served 10,000 MC’s...”. Kurupt later on told a story how he came to NY and battled a bunch of random dudes and destroyed everyone. But at the time with all the tension it came across as a diss to artists in NY. Nobody knew he had battled all these dudes .. they thought he was talking about established artists in the game. Got love for both coasts and down south. Grew up on all that. Real is real and love is love.
@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 WE WON'T SPEAK ON CRACK MAN X, WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT ONE ALONE, WE ALL KNOW HE CAN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO 2PAC, BIGGIE, NAS, OR JAY-Z......I STILL LOVE EM THOUGH ❗❗I LIKED JA RULE BETTER ANYWAY!!!😇
Only thing i hate for sum reason nore was not allowing big u to finish explaining that situation were they shot snoop trailer up and frank Alexander had to protect them n bring everyone back home safe
Exactly!!Big U was on point here!!Alot of those old NY rappers always take shots at Pac like he was just some emotional irrational nigga when he actually had reason to move how he was moving
Man everyone wants to act like Biggie didn’t instigate by calling the radio station telling people to stop “2pac and dog pounds video” (even though Pac wasn’t there)
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Kurupt put up a lyrical display of a execution for NY Hip Hop in the NY NY diss song. LA LA is a good song but compared to NY NY is whack. Did the video in NY ❗😉😉
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To Big U and Nore, What about the song NY87? Wasn't the saintly DPG in involved in this song or did Tupac force them to get on the track? And Big U, you took a picture with Haitian Jack - a guy who was indirectly involved with Pac eventually getting killed and that's the truth 💯 Big U, you ain't got no luv for Pac and never did..... Phonie.
Nore tried to change the subject, i hate it. Just own up to your shit, y'all were jealous at the time & dissing, cuz they kicked them buildings in the video, y'all hated Tupac for dissing y'all east coast nighas & that's that.
Jay be doing his thing, Drake eating hard right now, but I will always say and maintain there was never a rapper more powerful than Pac in that Death Row period. He literally had niggas to scared to respond to him in 95-96.
Actually not true biggie dissed him on nasty boy can I get witcha you. Re edited who shot ya to make at at him. Ugliest mc with busta he destroys him and the organelle long kiss goodnight track he ends him. Had to remove Tupac name replace it with mase name and take the harsher verses off on pacs death
@@davidphillips1500 Biggie never put a name on it. He invented subliminal disses. And Never heard Nasty whatver the nigga name was. Underground niggas was dissing to get a name off Pac. But none of the known niggas, but Mobb Deep (and Compared to Pac they local), ever really said Pac name or wanted it.
No rapper will ever be talked about this much. Rip Pac
2pac’s been gone for over a quarter Century, and he’s still being talked about. The man is the most influential Hip-Hop artist.
I believe he’s more remembered because of his attitude and the way he acted. That’s why lots of gangsters like him and them are the ones that keep him alive. Even wannabe gangsters Tupac touched. Even people that wish they had the balls to say what they want are fans of him.
If you say no…. Than tell me this. Pac and his music let’s say he just did his music. But in the streets he wasn’t in the presents of gangs and didn’t say shit openly while in the public.
Tell me would he be as big now?
Under those circumstances?
If you are sane and comprehend what I just said . Would he be the same now. And I said no?
He wouldn’t be talked about this long. So he is remembered more for the controversy he did than his music.
Tupac doesnt act the way he did if he wasn’t with the mob
One other thing I meant to post with this… thanks for the like and it just reminded me.
I’m no square posting this shit. Im what people call in the street a real one. I done did dirt, done hustled drugs and not no small shit. I lived off of the money. Didn’t have no job.
But I say these things because I was around these kind of people. Many people from all walks of life from killers to squares.
I knew real gangsters and the way 2pac was brought in the mix of being mob. Is fugazi… mob James ain’t the only one upset about 2pac just being let in. Lots of members felt a certain kind of way about that. They may not have said it out loud, but they don’t have to.
2pac was killed by bloods. Bloods/cops. Possibly by dudes from the same set. Maybe not buntry, neck bone or any of them close to pac. I’m talking the ones in the set that wasn’t included in the whole Hollywood treatment group.
I’m talking about real bangers that may have seen that whole act as an insult to the work they done put in.
PAC was not a gangster, he never was.
The whole reason why he’s dead is because of his own actions. You ever hear what happens to people when they want to be the center of attention? I’ll tell you what happens to those people. Shit happens to them and 8x out of 10 it’s negative. When you go sticking your nose in someone else’s garbage or bring your garbage, your business to the public?
Ain’t nothing good about either.
It’s so bad for 2pac because first off he already hated by gov. He comes from a former panther and not just any panther but one who got over on the gov. So automatically he is hated. What did he do to cool the situation? He put his nose in others business and shot what he saw was two white men. Come to learn the cops. That’s not what he needed. Had he knew they was cops, he ain’t shooting them. But he brought on more intense hatred to himself by getting involved. He’s already hated!
What else did he do? Well he kept hanging around stupid people and got a sexual assault charge and that’s a title no one likes let alone give another reason for police to want you more.
That’s his personal life.
So now in his professional life he brings drama to work and in the midst of making film he and his good buddies come on a set and jump. Not fight. Jump one of the film directors? He also continues to talk more crap on many people involving the studio shooting. You can only blame one, but he was blaming everyone but the rest of the attendees at that studio. Their was a lot of people at that studio. But he just handpicked who he wanted heat with. One being jimmy and when it comes to henchmen that includes Haitian jack and company. You got you guys there.
But he went even further to blame big because he was just there. Tell me this. What if big wasn’t there? I wonder would he be that crazy to still stick with the HE KNEW AND DIDNT TELL ME.?
It’s clear he didn’t like puff and Andre Harrell.
He knew big had no control over what jimmy and his people did to him. Those guys were extorting them also.
So he gets in a fight with suge, their been statements made by bodyguards that pac was mad and that money was being stolen from him. There is talks of him saying he’s out after makaveli, he did the audit on his home boy.
And remember he wants out, he had to fight to get money when time came to get paid.
If this is me… and my business partner is fuckin me. Clearly no trust. I don’t trust anyone fuckin wit my money. That’s my livelyhood.
So why the fuck is this man attending this fight with this individual I can no longer trust.
Why am I going. Better yet. Why would I ride with him and not my homies who is do trust and bodyguard?
It’s clear he doubted his gut, he was careless and probably a bit pussy.
All the signs were there if what could happen. You got contracts that were needing to be signed to break away from this company, and lining up your next venture makaveli records.
If those was in play. Why put yourself in such predicament? You are the soul provider of your family. Lots of people depend on you?
Why would you do that??
Because ladies and gentlemen it’s one of the two. The man wasn’t smart and very stupid….
Or he quit on his family and sacrificed himself and do you know what else it was for?
Just to say or leave this world…. But at least I wasn’t no punk and I didn’t go out like a sucka….
Remember that saying Richard Pryor said on Harlem nights…. What he said to his son Quck?
Here lies a man he died at 36 but he ain’t no punk!!
What did Mr Pryor say after?
that’s bs! To die and say he wasn’t no punk.
But do you know. When you die, when you’re 89. You got your kids around you and your grand kids around you.? That’s Cool!!
Remember what is said here brothers and sisters. You have e a choice.
What I can take from Mr Shakur is. Don’t be like me, do it better and make the most intelligent choice. That’s to live….
That knowledge I just kicked. If I was a Blackman and I had a platform like in entertainment.
If I spoke that same speech… I would be looked at as a dick Gregory, Malcom, or just a leader activist of my people.
There is righteousness in the person standing by you. It’s just we tend to refuse to not listen. Because they aren’t famous??
Wisemen and women are around it’s just you didn’t focus in on what was being said.
he played pretend
"Niggas talk a lot of shit, but that's after I'm gone
'Cause they fear me in the physical form"
Best response ever
Pac was no joke, he figured them all out … he knew them more than they knew them selves
Y'all give this mfer too much credit I swear!!!
Facts!!
When Nore says Kurupt looked his red coat up and down and says
"I can't do it cuuuz" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pac stories never get old rip to the legendary man 100
Hell be forever legendary!
I want Big U to co-host all future drink champs. He's the first one to keep Nore on subject in the history of the show
Truth be told.
😂😂💯
@stryfetc1 I wasn't there and won't pretend to know what happened, but from what I have seen he loved nip and worked to build his brand. I doubt he was involved
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Y'all really need to stop doing this. You don't know nothing so stop with the "I feel like" crap. Keep that negativity to yourself.
@stryfetc1 on the hot97 interview recently he said him and nip got back on good terms, and nip wanted to bring him back into the music, he was in nipseys “rap niggas video” and gave him an award at some show right before nip passed....basically they became cool again before the nip passing.
Pac stories never get old. Like I said no rapper breathing or dead ever be able to be on Pac level. This man gone 25 years later and still praised as he was alive today all over the globe. Long Live 🐐 Makaveli The Don aka Tupac Amaru Shakur Pinnacle of this Rap sh**. Yes Sirrr 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
th-cam.com/video/V-fvacdElUc/w-d-xo.html think bro
Tupac the greatest period
Miss you pac
No body AND nobody can never get to pac greatness
Pimp C holds down a close 2nd to Pac. 2 kings from different regions.
YOU SEEM VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THE CULTURE.
HOW MUCH IMPACT HAVE YOU HAD?
TALM BOUT ANOTHER MAN
LET MANS REST
I'm so glad I got to hear East coast West Coast discuss the whole beef and say what's on they mind after all these years
Big U not being completely honest here... Kurupt and Snoop were dissing Bad Boy right after their trailer got shot up. All this bullshit about Pac being the only one dissing folks is not true lol snoop and them just switched up aftet the fact and made Pac look like he was wilding
Facts, you can find those songs online
Facts... snoop and kurupt were dissing the east coast before that happened on some of pac’s unreleased songs, Dre did to
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But Pac was wilding. Period. No matter who else was on that bullshit with him. Look where it got him and look at where the ones who fell back on that shit are now.
Ok, I like all these artist. I've heard nearly all thier music.....many times. The dogg pound has 0 songs dissing the East Coast before 95. Give me some songs please 🙏???
Say what u wanna say about Pac but guess what? nobody is mentioned and admired more than him! Shit aint been right since he left, every damn store and website has Tupac shirts all over it etc.. He's the best ever respect that man for doing so much by the age of 25.
That's yo opinion.. Pac ain't seeing Nas or hov or big
@@brooklynbred6184 Pac already saw them niggaz and they had nothing to say and I love Nas.
Gtfoh hov a bird Pac the goat nas 2nd big to me like 6th cube 3rd fuk jay z
@@brooklynbred6184 pac had all of them shook in person..
@@_Tahmar I meant rap wise.. But pac wasn't a gangsta
tupac shakur name is immortal. he's a revolutionary. he belongs to the people. pac ain't dead. turn him up !
MOBB DEEP WAS THE ONLY GROUP OR ARTIST FROM N.Y. RESPONDING TO 2PAC DIRECTLY, THAT'S THE FACTS.....EVERYBODY ELSE WAS THROWING SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES OUT THERE!!!!! MOBB DEEP THE ONLY ONES I RESPECT CUZ THEY HAD THE BALLS TO DO IT!!!! EVERYBODY ELSE WAS QUITE AND SCARED!!! FACTS!!!!
FACTS!!!
The thing I liked about pac is he would say names and let everyone know who he was dissing while rappers were just throwing subliminal shots.
@@illmatic9096 don't you know Bad Boys move in silence and violence? If you really want to do something to somebody you don't say names. Mobb Deep never said 2Pac's name on "LA, LA" or "Drop a Gem". Prodigy did on a mixtape once.
If you don't say the names it's sublims
You're from NY aren't you?
Pac dissed bad boy, Mobb deep, the firm, Chino xl, dr dre, Wendy Williams, ll cool j, de la soul, da brat, the fugees and the list goes on😂😂😂
Lyrically Pac buried all of em .
What was the point of it tho
@@JudahKeyz Wendy dated B.IG and stayed disrespecting him..
LL, Mobb deep, Fugees sent shots at him(Wyclef is Haitian Jack cousin)..
De La soul dissed him and his style..
Chino XL disrespected 2pac as man, sayin he was raped in jail....
da brat sided with bad boy and stuck her nose in something that had nothing to with her..
Dre was a key to snoop's freedom during the trial, all he had to do was show up and testify to prove the supposed witness was lying, but he didn't and Pac was loyal so he saw that as disloyalty to their friend Snoop...
Nas was the only misunderstanding & they squashed it
Yeah I get those who said something 1st. But there was alot of people who never said anything to him and just because they were cool with Biggie and Badboy he dissed them. Like Lil'Kim once said in an interview I never ever had a conversation with Pac, met him but we never spoke. So I had no clue why he dissed me. He had a problem with Biggie that was between them she said I would have stayed out of it and left Biggie to deal with it, but he starting dissing a couple of us which was abit mad.
And I've heard other interviews with artists who have said even tho we were cool with Biggie we loved Pac and his music and as an artist he inspired us, we respected him. But then he started dissin us and it was jsit out of nowhere.
@@JudahKeyz nah anybody who was on bad boy was getting it.. that's just a must.. but like Pac said in hit em up, ppl started opening their mouths with an opinion about him attacking bad boy... they were mostly throwing shots on the low though and I can prove unlike most of these Pac fans blindly following him just because...
The dpg always try to just blame Pac but they were dissing big and the east too. Look up ny187
I see u kno ya hiphop history homie 💪🏾💯
@@tedbundydagod but that was after big got them shot at in NY right? My timeline could be off. They never put that track out so I never look at it like a serious diss.
@Boochie Nem that’s a good questions.. it might be after Big went on the radio and said that. But on the real thought that NY 87 is a flat out diss to NewYork as a whole. The WestCoast act like they innocent to the EastCoast WestCoast bullshit. Shit we was rob of a lot of great artists because of that bs. Smh
@@tedbundydagod I would have done the same thing. Think about all the ny rappers that use to shoot videos movies ect...on the west and go home unharmed. But when the west does a video in NYC we get shot at? Then big said 2pac and the dog pound I never understood to this day why he said pac. He just got out most people had no clue there were a problem with big and pac. I'm from midwest so I have no dog in the fight but from outside looking in it definitely looks like NYC pour the gas on that fire.
@@hitking683 yea it was after the radio station call that Big did. Pac was in jail at the time but the "East vs West" shit was already brewing.
This is so dope...
But let's be honest, Pac had everybody on notice and niggas didn't want that smoke
facts
Cause they know it's just misunderstanding from Pac side
@Panoris Holiday yeah right my ass
Facts.
Nobody was scared of pac. Everybody pac went against knew pac was trippin so why bother.
2pac 4 life
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@@rovolttv5856 nah I’m ok thanks mate
@@ysaleem7820 lol you good yea mate
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Big U love to Press! Lol....priceless
Best interview of the year so far!!! 🏆
I'm from Seattle but about 6 months after 9*11 I got thee opportunity to go 2 New York for work and I was ready to go the very second I was offered thee opportunity! I spent 2 years living at Queen's & 2 years living a couple of miles outside of Boston in Stoneham, Mass. Anyways while in New York I remember that 1 of the 2 hip hop stations on the FM Dial had a Tupac Tribute/Memory Hour the station would play back to back to back Pac tracks as well as celebrity stories about Pac as well as listeners/fans calling in and adding there thought on Pac! It was nothing but 1000% Love being sent out to Pac via New York City Radio Waves no disrespect to B.I.G. (never that!) but he wasn't getting that play & love like that back there then! I want to say that they did that hour Pac love thing (and that's just what I'm calling it to memorialize what my ears often witnessed while working at N.Y.C.) but I think it was an everyday thing Monday thru Friday with a 1 hour time slot dedicated to Tupac Talk & Song Play! I've had a brain aneurysm and a couple surgeries because of that and my memories often get stuck in my brains clutter so if anyone can recall what I'm talking about and fill in the blanks for me like what station was it, was it every night or every Friday or once a month, who the d. J. Was that put that together, & etc I'd appreciate it from the bottom of my ❤️ for real! Peace*Love*Music From Seattle Y'all! 206 😷🤐😷
“Ahhh... I just can’t do it cuh”😂😂😂
This should go down as one of the best drink champs episodes
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Wow seeing nore get cut off for once lol
They feared Pac in the physical form
Not even 🤣
Nah they laid pac down quick tbh
@@4saxon7 its facts! They was all quiet in the industry when Pac reigned supreme. All the talking started after he was killed
@@4saxon7yes they was tho 😂 NY rappers weren’t coming to the west coast at the time!!!! They were scared!!!
@@mgee1723 yeah some real street niggas did. Not these fake ass industry dudes
New York New York came out 26 years ago and was a lyrical ass kicking . I couldn't tell you one bar from LA LA . Facts !!!
Kurupt murdered that beat forreal.
Facts. I still listen to NY NY almost everyday. They killed the video too.
L.A. L.A. was mega weak. Tim Dog's Fuck Compton smashed harder on the west coast and he called out names.
@@blackpegasus1807 I give you that one . He snapped on they ass for real . LMAO
Kurupts verses was better than everybody's on LA LA!! Not even close
Ms. Debra spoke straight facts!!!
She was wrong
@@TheNyion912 Yea She was
Lyrically kurupt went crazy on NY NY, back when he was one of the coldest MCs out . LA LA is alright but NY NY is better imo
Kurupt held down the track basically alone with Snoop on the hook, the OG version of LA LA was more of a diss track with the intro than the released version, although Trag held it down on the LA LA track, Prodigy should’ve got a verse in my opinion although he left his one for the Nas track Live Nigga Rap
Facts
Pac till the world blow!!!!
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Facts
Allday long
Idol worship is pathetic
"GIVE US THE STEAK"
"No, he's with me"
Yoooooooo lmao
That East Coast West Coast rap War put a major dent on the east coast rappers based on location.
exactly Deb, imagine how many lives could have been saved by just one conversation
I love 2pac biggie stories
You love LGBTQ rappers like pac huh 🤣🌈🌈
@@orlandobabylaneanderson5231 🤡🤡
@@orlandobabylaneanderson5231 clown
@@orlandobabylaneanderson5231 dude u have a pic of a Orlando anderson as ur profile pic if u not a fan that's fine but don't be calling another man gay and have another dude as yo profile pic that got clout because of the artist u dissing 😂
@@familyfirstnation4605 i don't show it easily in the comments like you lgbtq pac tribe do 🤣
Only interview I could watch twice!!!
Big U stay 💯
Good conversation
U winning wit this one big homie the whole podcast u have up there are solid individuals.I Love when king and Queens get together n make money that's the definition of being Gangster
Old head story tellers are priceless
Nah fr bro we gotta protect the Old Head story tellers they’re priceless
@@cordarrocurtis4817 How you gonna protect them. You gonna take a bullet for them?
@@frontandcenter7941 😂😂😂 frfr
& it's not particularly the story that is being told but it's the way that it's being told.
This is hip hop history frfr 😂😂💫⚡️🗣
What the sista was saying is pure hardcore facts right there
I noticed something. When Deb spoke, everybody listened.
Because she sounds like a big man
Who is she ?
@@wes209 wakas moms. She manage rappers n shit. She well respected
Oh 0k I recognize her now. 👌
Love how Big U bullied the horn from EFN 🤣🤣🤣
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Ellmao
Nore was a hitter, he don’t have enough knowledge on the situation to answer Deb’s why question lol
If you know, you know
@@ODANNEK elaborate please
@@modzook more was known for busting his guns no matter the situation. Real street guy back in the day
Came back and listened again, Mrs Debb really telling y’all the real
Is that uncle Trick Trick? I gotta watch this one, too many OG’s in this clip.
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Ms. Debra soooo on point
NY rappers will always have a gripe with Pac because he shitted on them so hard
He ain’t shit on nothing.. Pac was a big mouth dude .. Btw Pac is a New Yorker ..
@@largegod77 he really did tho 😂 & I know
And because he was from there and repped LA and the westside more
@@CoolTy23 Yeh & then he got killed by niggaz from the same place he was claiming was better .. go figure ...Pac was all ova the place , confused & had a identity crisis
@@MelvinMansoor him and his family got more love from LA than New York
4:39 Ehhhh I cant do it cuz 😂😂😂
Notice how Nore change the subject after Big U bring up some real shit....
Big U said Dogg Pound’s “New York, New York” record was showing NY respect. That’s something new. NY cats always had respect for Kurupt cause he could straight spit. He was and LA dude but came from Philly so his understanding of wordplay was relatable. The thing that came across as disrespect is making a song called NY NY and then on the song saying “...the night I served 10,000 MC’s...”. Kurupt later on told a story how he came to NY and battled a bunch of random dudes and destroyed everyone. But at the time with all the tension it came across as a diss to artists in NY. Nobody knew he had battled all these dudes .. they thought he was talking about established artists in the game. Got love for both coasts and down south. Grew up on all that. Real is real and love is love.
This shit is legendary. East Coast, West Coast, Mid West💯
Only thing missing is an O.G from the South
Trick trick didn’t make hip hop and when he start claiming crip and calling cops on people
Staystrong keep the faith
pac was the truest and he will alwyws be
the greatest of all time
BIG FACTS!!!
Dmx is truer
Pac was truly a fake thug
It's true that pac got slumped by the greatest crip of all time
@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 WE WON'T SPEAK ON CRACK MAN X, WE'LL JUST LEAVE THAT ONE ALONE, WE ALL KNOW HE CAN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO 2PAC, BIGGIE, NAS, OR JAY-Z......I STILL LOVE EM THOUGH ❗❗I LIKED JA RULE BETTER ANYWAY!!!😇
Only thing i hate for sum reason nore was not allowing big u to finish explaining that situation were they shot snoop trailer up and frank Alexander had to protect them n bring everyone back home safe
Exactly!!Big U was on point here!!Alot of those old NY rappers always take shots at Pac like he was just some emotional irrational nigga when he actually had reason to move how he was moving
@@nigelryan5658 pac a whole thespian
@@mrfantastic9966 and you a whole weirdo 🤣exit stage left
@@nigelryan5658 facts 100
Ppl don’t know that influenced hit em up but everybody swear biggie and them was innocent smh
Haha LA LA was a weak response they ought to be glad Pac even acknowledged it NY was hatin hard
Yeah ny known for bein haters
Like n.o.r.e always entertaining with his stories speaking real facts big up yourself nore
Man everyone wants to act like Biggie didn’t instigate by calling the radio station telling people to stop “2pac and dog pounds video” (even though Pac wasn’t there)
It’s a lot of power at this table 💪🏾💪🏾
Deb talking that shit 🧠🧠🧠👀🧿🙏🏾
Nore will forever have to talk about LA LA no matter what lol
‘ We didn’t know if they was dissing but we wanted to respond cause we’re from New York’
Cashier: ‘sir this is a Wendy’s, what’s your order ‘
@@TheKenkennyg 😂😂😂
He's the only one being asked about it tho.. Hav n Capone don't do too many interviews. Prrodigy could clarify a lot too
@@TheKenkennyg 🤣🤣🤣🤣
every episode 😂😂😂😂
exactly sista - lives could have been saved. i feel you...
Dope luv from brooknam
69 prime example of what they speaking on at the end of this.
Tupac is still the greatest after all these years.
2pac still number #1
Nice,show,keep it com
I feel him about Kurupt kinda... he from the east coast and was stationed on the west he needed those east coast fans in my opinion
He rapped like he was from the east!
Cause he is.
How the hell did I miss this episode Deb dropped some Jewels damn…
Deb dropped nothin but knowledge
Revolt tv is the best
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kurupt verse from ny 87 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Don’t you love when OG’s speak
John Singleton said Doughboy was based on FatBacc from Hoover.
Facts john was raised on 101st and Vermont
I also heard Deebo was based on Big U, but nobody (extortion) ever asks
What is Bug u talking abou twhich documentary ?
This show would be much better if it wasn't always chaotic, over talking. Can't sit and watch this for long periods of time.
Too many people talking at the same time!!
🔥🔥💯💯
THE SISTA SPOKE THE FACTS!
Love this Show N.O.R.E.
"No, i can't do it cuuuz" had me dying with laughter. Dudes can't even keep warm over a name on a jacket. Damn, the hate was strong back then!
Kurupt refused the red coat cuz he's a Rollin 60s Crip. It had nothing to do with NY or Yankees
It's red, not NY
Arizona is The SouthWest‼️Off Top… so when all dat was goin on Biggie shouted out my Sity🩸🐺🤠🌵⛏#ThaBloodySpikMigo Tucson Arizona‼️Much love n Respekt Smallie Big$ n Amaru
Kurupt put up a lyrical display of a execution for NY Hip Hop in the NY NY diss song. LA LA is a good song but compared to NY NY is whack. Did the video in NY ❗😉😉
Talk that talk . New York New York came out 26 years ago and was a lyrical ass kicking . I couldn't tell you one bar from LA LA . Facts !!!
New York New York wasn't a diss song; the video was after some cats shot at them in New York.
Yeah that was a crazy move lol but almost got popped up for that disrespectful shit😉
The song itself isn't a diss. The music video is.
@@KasanovaKee325 i agree
Debra spoke facts! I elect her as the Hip Hop Ambassador.
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Good interview. But NORE jumping over what Big U said on Trick to talk about a booty song? 🤦🏾♂️
I love my people 🙏🏿❤️💪🏿 Thank you God for making me
When they started talking real shit nore went to talking bout booty bounce
Great share... #tupac #biggiesmalls #thedossierpodcast
Nore you need to have notes you go by. Why? Because you interrupt critical conversations mid-point
He said nah not me us😂😂😂
MOBB WAS THE ONLY ONES THAT RESPONDED DIRECTLY DIRECTLY NOT SUBLIMINALS !!!
That sister spoke factz❤✌️
Its hard to listen when everybody shouts :/
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The truth is finally coming out. It took 25 years but people are finally falling it now it was
Basically, Nore was clout chasing
This is dope
To Big U and Nore,
What about the song NY87? Wasn't the saintly DPG in involved in this song or did Tupac force them to get on the track?
And Big U, you took a picture with Haitian Jack - a guy who was indirectly involved with Pac eventually getting killed and that's the truth 💯
Big U, you ain't got no luv for Pac and never did..... Phonie.
NY 87 was never released buddy, and it was after they got shot at in new york.
Does miss Deb have a platform? I’m subbin’💯👀🤓
Corporations own property, but they dont own our souls...they just haven't been pressed to change the play book
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Who is the lady and where from?
Nore tried to change the subject, i hate it. Just own up to your shit, y'all were jealous at the time & dissing, cuz they kicked them buildings in the video, y'all hated Tupac for dissing y'all east coast nighas & that's that.
Yo NORE funny as hell "it's Us Nigga"
Jay be doing his thing, Drake eating hard right now, but I will always say and maintain there was never a rapper more powerful than Pac in that Death Row period. He literally had niggas to scared to respond to him in 95-96.
Actually not true biggie dissed him on nasty boy can I get witcha you. Re edited who shot ya to make at at him. Ugliest mc with busta he destroys him and the organelle long kiss goodnight track he ends him. Had to remove Tupac name replace it with mase name and take the harsher verses off on pacs death
@@davidphillips1500 Biggie never put a name on it. He invented subliminal disses. And Never heard Nasty whatver the nigga name was. Underground niggas was dissing to get a name off Pac. But none of the known niggas, but Mobb Deep (and Compared to Pac they local), ever really said Pac name or wanted it.
Facts beyond facts