Thank you for putting this together. I have come to many of these same understandings over the last year on my faith deconstruction journey that you have spoken about in this video. I appreciate you sharing your learnings as well.
It seems to me that the church lost it's right to the Melchezidek Priesthood when the church came under condemnation and the Name was changed to "The Church of The Latter Day Saints". Prior to the Kirtland Temple being completed and dedicated. The dedicatory prayer is clear, Joseph begged for the name of Christ to be restored to the Church. There was so much corruption and disobedience in the church, at that time, that the Lord gave one last chance in Nauvoo to build 2 buildings, a Temple and the Nauvoo House. Neither was completed. The church was "Rejected, with their dead". The Church of Christ, Zion and the Powers that were taken away will be restored and redeemed prior to the second coming.
Since I learned about the distinct possibility that Joseph Smith was killed by his 'friends', this idea that the LDS modern temples are great and spacious buildings has been creeping into my thoughts. I could never quite articulate it except to point out that if Brigham was the ring leader of the group that killed Joseph, then the fountain was bitter indeed. Nothing good comes from a bitter fountain. However, true to from, Mr. Truth & Precept has nailed it. And done it from multiple directions, and in the process has expanded how I look at the Book of Mormon. Thank you brother.
1:45:52 AoF 12 and poligamy contradict, as it was illegal. Also "D+C" 132.61 "desire to espouse another, and the first give her consent" yet according to the church gospel topics essay Joseph married women behind Emma's back. Matt. 5.36 "Neither shalt thou swear by thy head" -Jesus. Shoutout to Brigham's penalty oaths.
I think the Lord plans to bring the SLC temple down once it's finished being "earthquake-proofed"... at least i think that would be awesome to see! People also thought that "even God couldn't sink the Titanic," and it did on its maiden voyage.
Actually, Jacob 2:30 is NOT a “loophole” saying that polygamy is ok when commanded. Studying the scriptures in context clearly reveals that the Lord has never commanded it, any more than he ever commanded slavery, child sacrifice, or any other abominable sins. God mercifully worked with fallen humans despite the fact that they were practicing these and other abominations, patiently waiting for them to repent, and he sometimes commented on and set boundaries for slavery, polygamy, etc., but he never at any time COMMANDED or even asked anyone to have more than one wife, let alone requiring such a practice for exaltation. It’s sad that so many of our ancestors were deceived by Brigham et al into false doctrines and practices, which continue even today among the fundamentalists. They elevated Brigham’s teachings far above Joseph’s, so lying, murdering, abuse, stealing from the government and from outsiders, blind obedience & loyalty to their fellow conspirators, etc. were common among polygamists. Polygamy was never from God, and Joseph never taught it nor practiced it. Joseph told the truth, and was innocent. Brigham was a liar, murderer, manipulator, power and riches-hungry hypocritical control freak, and we have been lied to for generations to cover this up. We need to awaken to the awfulness of our situation, and repent on behalf of ourselves and our ancestors.
I love your skim milk comment. So true, just watch the Come Follow Me presentations. They skip any part that might cause someone to really think or go to the Lord. I refuse to follow the program or watch presentations on it. The scriptures are so full of great things that are skipped in the skim milk light teachings. All the lessons are set to make you feel good about where you are, all is well in Zion Yes 100% Baal worship, which is Babylon.
The scripture you referenced that 1nephi 9:2 speaks of other records that are not those of the Book of Mormon. Those would be the Nemenhah Writings which the church has had for decades but kept quiet about.
Wow lots of Saints turning on their own! You probably have no idea what you do or no- you do know what you do!! Might ck what direction your headed! Not all of us are easily misled- thank goodness!!!!!
Plural marriage is not a sin when commanded as it says in Jacob 2:30. The Book of Mormon says having many wives and concubines is a sin. This is called multiplying wives in the Old Testament. Abraham and Jacob were not condemned for their plural marriages because they did not multiply wives, or as the book of Mormon says, they didn't have many wives and concubines like Solomon. In fact it says Abraham kept all the laws and commandments. The people in the Book of Mormon used Abraham and Jacob from the the Bible to justify multiplying wives and they ignored that Lord had told Lehi and is family not to live the law of plural marriage. (Genesis 26:4-5) And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; 5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. In Jacob it says the abomination was taking wives and concubines and using the scriptures of old to justify it... The didn't understand the scriptures and were multiplying wives. (Deut 17:16-17) But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the Lord hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. 17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
Jacob 2:30 doesn’t mean what we have been told for generations that it means. Our eyes have been blinded and our minds darkened. No, it doesn’t say that polygamy is ok when commanded. It isn’t a “loophole” clause. The Lord says in verse 27, “there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none”. Period. This is a universal law, for all times and all places. No more than one wife. No exploitation and trafficking of women and children. No concubines (sex slaves) or mistresses. No adultery. Read it in context of the whole chapter, and I’m sure you’ll agree here’s what it actually says [with explanatory words and phrases in brackets, referring to other verses in the same chapter, for context and clarification of verse 30’s true meaning]: 30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up [a righteous] seed unto me, I will command my people [to go out from among the wicked][as verse 25 just said, “I have led this people forth…]; otherwise [if I don’t lead them out from the sin-filled society] they shall hearken unto these things [they shall accept and adopt these abominable things, namely, having many wives & concubines, and other abominations]. To re-emphasize: >>”I will command my people” means “I will lead them out from among the wicked”. >>”Otherwise they shall hearken” means “otherwise, unfortunately, they will ignore my universal commandment of monogamy, and will see & imitate the wicked practices of the society they dwell in, and will take it for granted that these things are ok.” >>”These things” means having more than wife, having concubines and mistresses, and all other related abominations, whoredoms, and iniquities.
The scripture you referenced that 1nephi 9:2 speaks of other records that are not those of the Book of Mormon. Those would be the Nemenhah Writings which the church has had for decades but kept quiet about.
Thank you for putting this together. I have come to many of these same understandings over the last year on my faith deconstruction journey that you have spoken about in this video. I appreciate you sharing your learnings as well.
You answered so many of my questions, thank you for taking so slow and explaining everything
It seems to me that the church lost it's right to the Melchezidek Priesthood when the church came under condemnation and the Name was changed to "The Church of The Latter Day Saints". Prior to the Kirtland Temple being completed and dedicated. The dedicatory prayer is clear, Joseph begged for the name of Christ to be restored to the Church. There was so much corruption and disobedience in the church, at that time, that the Lord gave one last chance in Nauvoo to build 2 buildings, a Temple and the Nauvoo House. Neither was completed. The church was "Rejected, with their dead". The Church of Christ, Zion and the Powers that were taken away will be restored and redeemed prior to the second coming.
This is my understanding as well.
D&C 124
Since I learned about the distinct possibility that Joseph Smith was killed by his 'friends', this idea that the LDS modern temples are great and spacious buildings has been creeping into my thoughts. I could never quite articulate it except to point out that if Brigham was the ring leader of the group that killed Joseph, then the fountain was bitter indeed. Nothing good comes from a bitter fountain.
However, true to from, Mr. Truth & Precept has nailed it. And done it from multiple directions, and in the process has expanded how I look at the Book of Mormon. Thank you brother.
Very eye opening! Thank you!
Kirtland was never referred to as a temple by Joseph smith.
Fantastic! Thank you! You shared some of Joseph's teachings that I had not heard before❤
Thank you, another thought provoking presentation!
This is an amazing presentation! Thank you for sharing this.
Did brigham not have blood oaths in the temple and even now there are secret signs and symbols. Wow this is staggering.
1:45:52 AoF 12 and poligamy contradict, as it was illegal. Also "D+C" 132.61 "desire to espouse another, and the first give her consent" yet according to the church gospel topics essay Joseph married women behind Emma's back.
Matt. 5.36 "Neither shalt thou swear by thy head" -Jesus. Shoutout to Brigham's penalty oaths.
Awesome work! So we’ll put together!
Thank you so much!
I think the Lord plans to bring the SLC temple down once it's finished being "earthquake-proofed"... at least i think that would be awesome to see! People also thought that "even God couldn't sink the Titanic," and it did on its maiden voyage.
How could Hr not level it after Russ boasted in how sure and safe it will be😂
I love that idea!!!!!
Actually, Jacob 2:30 is NOT a “loophole” saying that polygamy is ok when commanded. Studying the scriptures in context clearly reveals that the Lord has never commanded it, any more than he ever commanded slavery, child sacrifice, or any other abominable sins.
God mercifully worked with fallen humans despite the fact that they were practicing these and other abominations, patiently waiting for them to repent, and he sometimes commented on and set boundaries for slavery, polygamy, etc., but he never at any time COMMANDED or even asked anyone to have more than one wife, let alone requiring such a practice for exaltation.
It’s sad that so many of our ancestors were deceived by Brigham et al into false doctrines and practices, which continue even today among the fundamentalists. They elevated Brigham’s teachings far above Joseph’s, so lying, murdering, abuse, stealing from the government and from outsiders, blind obedience & loyalty to their fellow conspirators, etc. were common among polygamists. Polygamy was never from God, and Joseph never taught it nor practiced it. Joseph told the truth, and was innocent. Brigham was a liar, murderer, manipulator, power and riches-hungry hypocritical control freak, and we have been lied to for generations to cover this up. We need to awaken to the awfulness of our situation, and repent on behalf of ourselves and our ancestors.
I love your skim milk comment. So true, just watch the Come Follow Me presentations. They skip any part that might cause someone to really think or go to the Lord. I refuse to follow the program or watch presentations on it. The scriptures are so full of great things that are skipped in the skim milk light teachings. All the lessons are set to make you feel good about where you are, all is well in Zion
Yes 100% Baal worship, which is Babylon.
It is very interesting that in the modern endowment there is very little of any mention of the Holy Ghost.
This was awesome! I think you mean Zeniff was thev1st king before Wicked King Noah. Lemhi was Noah's son.
Any chance you'll be able to upload a version of this higher than 360p quality? It is really hard to see the charts and documents on the screen.
The scripture you referenced that 1nephi 9:2 speaks of other records that are not those of the Book of Mormon. Those would be the Nemenhah Writings which the church has had for decades but kept quiet about.
Wow lots of Saints turning on their own! You probably have no idea what you do or no- you do know what you do!! Might ck what direction your headed! Not all of us are easily misled- thank goodness!!!!!
I'm seeking after truth. And I'm not finding much of it in the brighamite church
Is this account affiliated with a Remnant group?
One of your finest :)
Thanks for your excellent commentary’s but when you abandon Isaiah ur ego gets exposed priest craft. Peddle pills but don rob GOD. Isaiah 4:1
Plural marriage is not a sin when commanded as it says in Jacob 2:30. The Book of Mormon says having many wives and concubines is a sin. This is called multiplying wives in the Old Testament. Abraham and Jacob were not condemned for their plural marriages because they did not multiply wives, or as the book of Mormon says, they didn't have many wives and concubines like Solomon. In fact it says Abraham kept all the laws and commandments. The people in the Book of Mormon used Abraham and Jacob from the the Bible to justify multiplying wives and they ignored that Lord had told Lehi and is family not to live the law of plural marriage.
(Genesis 26:4-5) And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
In Jacob it says the abomination was taking wives and concubines and using the scriptures of old to justify it... The didn't understand the scriptures and were multiplying wives.
(Deut 17:16-17) But he shall not multiply horses to himself, nor cause the people to return to Egypt, to the end that he should multiply horses: forasmuch as the Lord hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way.
17 Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
Jacob 2:30 doesn’t mean what we have been told for generations that it means. Our eyes have been blinded and our minds darkened. No, it doesn’t say that polygamy is ok when commanded. It isn’t a “loophole” clause.
The Lord says in verse 27, “there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none”. Period. This is a universal law, for all times and all places. No more than one wife. No exploitation and trafficking of women and children. No concubines (sex slaves) or mistresses. No adultery.
Read it in context of the whole chapter, and I’m sure you’ll agree here’s what it actually says [with explanatory words and phrases in brackets, referring to other verses in the same chapter, for context and clarification of verse 30’s true meaning]:
30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up [a righteous] seed unto me, I will command my people [to go out from among the wicked][as verse 25 just said, “I have led this people forth…]; otherwise [if I don’t lead them out from the sin-filled society] they shall hearken unto these things [they shall accept and adopt these abominable things, namely, having many wives & concubines, and other abominations].
To re-emphasize:
>>”I will command my people” means “I will lead them out from among the wicked”.
>>”Otherwise they shall hearken” means “otherwise, unfortunately, they will ignore my universal commandment of monogamy, and will see & imitate the wicked practices of the society they dwell in, and will take it for granted that these things are ok.”
>>”These things” means having more than wife, having concubines and mistresses, and all other related abominations, whoredoms, and iniquities.
Jacob DOESN'T say that. He says that it's an abomination and a grosser crime than pride. Go read it again, without the lds blinders on.
The scripture you referenced that 1nephi 9:2 speaks of other records that are not those of the Book of Mormon. Those would be the Nemenhah Writings which the church has had for decades but kept quiet about.