Definitely learned something from this - never had an actual synth as I don't really mess with them much but definitely going to make sure I cop the pre-amp beforehand (I figured as much from recording vocals doing the same technique but good to have it solidified from an OG) Thanks homie 👊
Greatly appreciate your thorough response homie@@goonfish - as I would've more than likely been a statistic that's made the mistakes you've mentioned above! Thanks for the suggestions and the reminder that research is always the way to go!
Thought I was the only one to wait a while when I get new hardware I chill for at least 8 weeks because it take time to add to your current workflow but the joy of using it is priceless
Bruh I'm not gonna lie.. this is embarrassing to admit. When I was trying to do music, I never knew why my dam audio waveforms were so small!! I hated it. Got a rode nt1 a audient interface and always thought I had defective equipment but couldn't know for sure because I had no mentor. Watching this I hear you repeat it... all I needed was a dam preamp I'm so dumb I thought the audient was the preamp lol . There my story of a waste of time.
Which interface did you have? Most Audient interfaces (including the iD series) include Class A preamps; their colour was literally the reason I sold mine, I wish it didn't have a preamp, but it did. Audient even has an entire section of their website dedicated to the preamps built into their interfaces.
@@turbochargedfilms I have an Apollo twin duo and an Audient SP8. Gonna buy a preamp (either a 1073 or TG2) to go into my 500 series lunchbox the first chance I get. Built in pres are fine for basic stuff, but there’s a reason why every studio has preamps in the outboard gear even if there’s built in ones in the interface or console/mixer. Individual dedicated preamps are just better than the built in stuff.
@turbochargedfilms just saw this bro but tbh i just got what I thought was cool I got the ID44. I'm 100 percent sure I wasn't using it right or to it's full potential. I had issues with the waveform being to small. In one of Dames videos I realized we need preamps before interfaces. If the id44 has em I deff was using that thing wrong.
Dame really be putting the simple but important things to my perspective it’s hilarious lol Man this ish is hella crazy but so many of us get caught up with the over saturated bs in the producer community..I’m Haitian and i live in Mississippi and I am proof that using what you got until you learn and earn to get better frfr
This video was insightful because as a person who likes synths I wouldn't want to devalue a product that I'm paying 10k for with vsts when the effects that are included in the synth are better. Thank you Dame 💪🏾
@Sniper_T_2x I would assume if you pay $10,000 on a synth and you put like a $300 effect vst I feel like it would take away from value of the synth and you want to represent and respect the sound it generates. That's just my perspective. I appreciate your comment tho
I think I'm missing the point. Why would you need a different pre for synths? I understand you'd want to use a di box or a pre that has a di option, but I don't get the reasoning of just getting a pre for a synth? sure the built in pres wont be as colourful or built for quality like an external pre, but they'll do the exact same thing as external ones? please correct me if that just flew over my head.
@@turbochargedfilms but bruh when drake buys my beat and raps about how he pays his favorite pornstars to pegg him. Man that buchala easel is gonna be a $4000 dust collector.
Could you not just look up recorded samples or emulations of those $10000 synths. I feel like buying something like that nowadays is just bragging rights
Look how CPU intensive UH/E DIVA is though -- and that's just emulating a synth with a small fraction of Moog One's voice count. It's a monster multi-timbral synth that even the best computers wouldn't be able to fully replicate yet.
recorded vocals are probably copyrighted or sold to the public, so many others are using the same sample (basically like splice). emulators and VSTs audio quality hasnt caught up to high end hardware like the Moog 1 yet, so it does make a diff, hardware also gives you an edge when trying to sound unique (your most important asset as a producer) since you are using sounds most people dont have. Those are the benefits of getting hardware I think
Preamps may or may not add "additional color", it probably depends on the schematics of the preamp. If you're normalizing very low-level signal which was recorded directly into your USB audio interface, then you also boosting a lot of digital noise along with your musical signal.
preamps will allow gainstaging before the ADC stage. colour is just an additional byproduct of some and not exactly an always intended or always useful occurence. as someone who has a whole bunch of semi-modular and mono synths, and deals with both building and playing Eurorack stuff, a preamp is really not a necessity for most synths. most synths will output line level at the very least (and hotter for modular). if your synth needs a preamp to sound good, its the synth (or perhaps the patch) that's the problem, and vice versa.
better off getting a nice interface with really nice preamps… or make sure you have channels in your interface with no preamp if you are gonna go buy a nice preamp
Everything you saying is true. I'm far from a professional like yourself, but I do use real synthesizers cheap ones but they way better than most any VST's out there.
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Never knew all i needed was a preamp lol...thanks again homie
Definitely learned something from this - never had an actual synth as I don't really mess with them much but definitely going to make sure I cop the pre-amp beforehand (I figured as much from recording vocals doing the same technique but good to have it solidified from an OG)
Thanks homie 👊
Definitely, I use a mixer.
@@swanofnutella4734appreciate the advice - I'll keep that in mind whenever the trigger gets pulled and I have the physical synths in front of me
Greatly appreciate your thorough response homie@@goonfish - as I would've more than likely been a statistic that's made the mistakes you've mentioned above!
Thanks for the suggestions and the reminder that research is always the way to go!
Thought I was the only one to wait a while when I get new hardware I chill for at least 8 weeks because it take time to add to your current workflow but the joy of using it is priceless
Bro the title LOL
Honestly, if he ran this through an Analog Heat it would go crazy
11:03 definitely felt them bars, they were feeling it too 👊
Bruh I'm not gonna lie.. this is embarrassing to admit. When I was trying to do music, I never knew why my dam audio waveforms were so small!! I hated it. Got a rode nt1 a audient interface and always thought I had defective equipment but couldn't know for sure because I had no mentor. Watching this I hear you repeat it... all I needed was a dam preamp I'm so dumb I thought the audient was the preamp lol . There my story of a waste of time.
You didn’t know bro, you’re a good dude so don’t trip. #HumanGang
@industrydame thanks bro. Keep pushing what you're pushing on this internet. Wake some young bucks up
Which interface did you have? Most Audient interfaces (including the iD series) include Class A preamps; their colour was literally the reason I sold mine, I wish it didn't have a preamp, but it did. Audient even has an entire section of their website dedicated to the preamps built into their interfaces.
@@turbochargedfilms I have an Apollo twin duo and an Audient SP8. Gonna buy a preamp (either a 1073 or TG2) to go into my 500 series lunchbox the first chance I get. Built in pres are fine for basic stuff, but there’s a reason why every studio has preamps in the outboard gear even if there’s built in ones in the interface or console/mixer. Individual dedicated preamps are just better than the built in stuff.
@turbochargedfilms just saw this bro but tbh i just got what I thought was cool I got the ID44. I'm 100 percent sure I wasn't using it right or to it's full potential. I had issues with the waveform being to small. In one of Dames videos I realized we need preamps before interfaces. If the id44 has em I deff was using that thing wrong.
Finally some great synth content just subbed
Damn, you gotta use that drive on the Moog for sure!
all facts man... analog gear needs to run thru ....analog gear...lol.....
That part.
Dame really be putting the simple but important things to my perspective it’s hilarious lol
Man this ish is hella crazy but so many of us get caught up with the over saturated bs in the producer community..I’m Haitian and i live in Mississippi and I am proof that using what you got until you learn and earn to get better frfr
The Memorymoog go for like $9k - $12k, amazing synthesizers, but they're a bit temperamental with maintenance.
This video was insightful because as a person who likes synths I wouldn't want to devalue a product that I'm paying 10k for with vsts when the effects that are included in the synth are better.
Thank you Dame 💪🏾
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Are they really better tho? I get it’s analog but that doesn’t make the effects better than digital
@Sniper_T_2x I would assume if you pay $10,000 on a synth and you put like a $300 effect vst I feel like it would take away from value of the synth and you want to represent and respect the sound it generates. That's just my perspective. I appreciate your comment tho
@@Sniper_T_2x The Moog One effects are digital. The reverb is Eventide's Blackhole reverb...which you can also get as a plugin.
Big facts bro not the way to use that big a piece of kit.
I think I'm missing the point. Why would you need a different pre for synths? I understand you'd want to use a di box or a pre that has a di option, but I don't get the reasoning of just getting a pre for a synth? sure the built in pres wont be as colourful or built for quality like an external pre, but they'll do the exact same thing as external ones? please correct me if that just flew over my head.
Buying a pre like a Neve or Api sounds MUCH better than built in pre in your interface. Jack of all trades. Master of None.
What Preamp would you put it through?
Sum interfaces gotta built in preamp
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@@turbochargedfilms but bruh when drake buys my beat and raps about how he pays his favorite pornstars to pegg him. Man that buchala easel is gonna be a $4000 dust collector.
im get moog funk life !!!!!
Could you not just look up recorded samples or emulations of those $10000 synths. I feel like buying something like that nowadays is just bragging rights
Look how CPU intensive UH/E DIVA is though -- and that's just emulating a synth with a small fraction of Moog One's voice count. It's a monster multi-timbral synth that even the best computers wouldn't be able to fully replicate yet.
recorded vocals are probably copyrighted or sold to the public, so many others are using the same sample (basically like splice).
emulators and VSTs audio quality hasnt caught up to high end hardware like the Moog 1 yet, so it does make a diff, hardware also gives you an edge when trying to sound unique (your most important asset as a producer) since you are using sounds most people dont have. Those are the benefits of getting hardware I think
he worked hard for it so why not
What the difference between preamps and just normalizing the wav? Just for some additional color right?
Preamps may or may not add "additional color", it probably depends on the schematics of the preamp. If you're normalizing very low-level signal which was recorded directly into your USB audio interface, then you also boosting a lot of digital noise along with your musical signal.
preamps will allow gainstaging before the ADC stage. colour is just an additional byproduct of some and not exactly an always intended or always useful occurence. as someone who has a whole bunch of semi-modular and mono synths, and deals with both building and playing Eurorack stuff, a preamp is really not a necessity for most synths. most synths will output line level at the very least (and hotter for modular). if your synth needs a preamp to sound good, its the synth (or perhaps the patch) that's the problem, and vice versa.
I mean… he probably has it plugged into an interface with trashy preamps in it so technically he is running through preamps.
better off getting a nice interface with really nice preamps… or make sure you have channels in your interface with no preamp if you are gonna go buy a nice preamp
you are very much speaking facts in this. he just wasted 10k or signed up to go spend another 2-3k getting a proper daw/interface/preamp
moog 1 deserves some neve love
@@hevvyserve the synth will pay for its self this guy makes a ton of money kits and videos.
exactly my thoughts
Just curious, Do you not gain stage your tracks or do you just record all tracks at very high levels?
Don't even have space for a synth that big
Everything you saying is true. I'm far from a professional like yourself, but I do use real synthesizers cheap ones but they way better than most any VST's out there.