We're actually very hopeful. We went into this with a lot of thought and care. We understand the fear, but hopefully our actions over the next while will reassure people.
@@GreenSockLearning not sure about this statement. Did you read Open letter to WF and what users say about WF support and other "projects" they never finished like membership and Logic? Is this kind of company you would like to be run and in sync? IMO not good move but I wish you good luck. Just time will tell,
@@Mexad0n We've seen huge amounts of support, excitement and overlap between their community and ours. The leadership team and developers we've talked to have been exceptionally smart, kind, caring and respectful of GSAP's vision and responsibility to the wider web. I'm sure most big companies have pain points and dissatisfied customers. Time will tell. We're positive about it.
Lol, you're such an actress! Come what may I will follow Brody wherever he goes. You're lucky to have a leader of his stature and moral compass at the helm.
GSAP is amazing. Even tho, I'm not really into, I've seen so many webflow stuff and found them quite interesting. Now seeing them combined, I'm kinda excited to see some crazy sleek websites come up
Webflow folks are certainly excited but as multiple years GSAP premium user I have some frustration and mixed feelings… No new releases from May 2023. I even recently started checking GSAP site if all is Ok and it’s still alive and boom... This is serious move. At least I expected to see and listen Jack in this video. Looks like all development efforts will be focused on merging GSAP into Webflow and it’s gui etc which is obvious and new core features will be super rear. Anyway I always be thankful to GSAP, wish Jack and his team luck and I do hope I’m wrong…
Hey Vitalli - thanks for voicing your concern. The core GSAP team will actually be in the same roles as we are currently, Webflow will be hiring and using their internal team for development of the integration. 💚 If anything we'll have more development time and resources to work on GSAP. It's hard with a small team and such a large community to support. Are there any features you'd like to see? We pushed up 3.12.5 earlier this year, and have been making updates consistently to the docs, showcasing community sites, helping in the forums and working on bug fixes as per usual.
I was really bummed upon seeing this news for a sec. I've been using GSAP for years and have loved it, and personally have zero interest in Webflow (insufficient control, subpar performance). But on reflection, you've given us/me so much for free and your community managers have always been so helpful - posts rarely go unresponded in the forums. You guys deserve a nice payday. And it's unlikely that the corpo changes will start trickling in before at least a year has passed. And at this rate, MBA types at Webflow (or an M&A parent/partner) making garbage decisions with a beloved animation library acquisition will probably rank very low on our list of worries.
If you consider that Webflow's biggest competitor is Framer... Then look at how framer incubated, improved and grew PopMotion for 6 years after their acquisition this move makes more sense. Framer used PopMotion to power their internal animation GUI, allowed it to be used on the wider web outside of Framer as "Framer-motion", then ultimately set it free entirely in a new and improved form. Webflow would have nothing to gain by limiting GSAP for the wider web besides making the community absolutely furious and driving adoption to other animation libraries. We're also still here. 👋We haven't just taken a payday and handed over the reigns entirely
So glad to hear Webflow/GSAP are keeping GSAP publicly available! Often these mergers don't go this way. Well done on a great merger. I have used both Webflow and GSAP, both excellent products!
This is fantastic. I am just relearning webflow after some time out. I have just been following your tuto you did (the one with the 'loading' letters animation). Question. Will this manual method of adding GSAP to Webflow become redundant? The job I am about to undertake is pretty massive and will require a lot of GSAP investment and I don't want to do something that will be deprecated in 1 month with a new release of GSAP/Webflow...
No need to worry! Things will only get better/easier. GSAP won't get deprecated or anything like that. It'll most likely get more and more integrated, so go right ahead and build on GSAP as much as you want. In the future, you probably won't need to do a separate load of GSAP because it'll already be there, that's all. Have fun!
Umm, anyone notice that the option to pay for a permanent business green is gone? Can y'all explain? It was 995 and you get updates and stuff for 3 years and then 99 a year after the 3 years. I actually came to make that purchase and now its gone for this 200 a year noise. Please tell me my UI is glitching.
Hey there. So sorry that you got swiped by this. We don't offer the permanent license anymore I'm afraid. Pop us an email at info@greensock.com and we'll swing you a discount coupon for the inconvenience. You also *may* not need a business license, let's check your use case over email - most commercial projects are covered by the no-charge license.
As a Webflow user who has been hesitant to fully explore GSAP, I’m now very happy because I’ll be learning GSAP in a more intuitive way. I hope that the interface and user experience will be designed in a way that’s not too different from coding itself, so I can eventually understand and use GSAP even without needing Webflow as a ‘go-between’.
That's a shame. Everyone we've met who works there is smart, caring and really invested in helping people build for the web. The community we've interacted with in-person and online is a great mixture of people from different creative disciplines - all working together and helping each other level up. All very positive from our experience.
@@thevikingsock8527 I received a quote of $22,000 to develop a saas. I couldn't afford it, so I developed it for $2,000 with webflow wized and xano. I don't think you understand why Webflow is so successful.
No new video for six month and now that 😐As far as I can see, this is no good news for me as a WordPress user unless we will see a standalone GSAP Graphical User Interface in the future. So let's hope this announcement is at least a neutral one in the long run and not turn into bad news in hindsight.
We would love to do more videos, but they take time and our small team handles a lot of support and other tasks. The good news is that hopefully this move will mean more time for making educational content and more hands in the library helping with features and maintenance. There won't be a standalone GUI for GSAP, but we never had the resources for that anyway, it wasn't a possibility. For you, as a WordPress user, you can just keep on using GSAP as you always were, no change at all. 💚
@@GreenSockLearning OK, so I can keep exploring all the great creative possibilities GSAP brings to JS and WordPress and could use 3rd party tools like motion_page without any worries 😌 And you? I hope you will benefit a bit from Webflows equity money and you get a well deserved pay-raise and Jack can buy a decent apartment, or a house or even more as compensation for all his hard work over the years! I say that without any irony, because my favorite library GSAP should thrive - in the one way or the other.
If there's a specific concern driving you away, let us know and we'll do what we can to help. Otherwise - thanks so much for your support in the past when we needed it the most.
Our small team was stretched thinly before and the library was maintained by one person. This feels like a more stable beginning for us, not an end. More maintainers, more resources and more stability - for everyone on the wider web and Webflow. 💚
I only hope GSAP will remain accessible to everyone, and it won't brings specific things only accessible for webflow users. GSAP is such a powerful tool.
Here are some great Webflow X GSAP sites from our community overlap www.accordion.net.au/ www.sonarmusic.com.au/ www.itsoffbrand.com/ www.chronothreads.com/ www.str8fire.io/ www.robhemus.co.uk/ www.kaloyanmad.com/ baronissisportsclub.webflow.io/ Enjoy them! We really did. Also we love helping newbies and hobbyists learn GSAP and build for the web too. Everyone's welcome here.
I don't use Webflow; however, the GASP library will exist as it does right now, to use on whichever platform you want. You can still dunk on those hobbyists with the multi-million dollar web design agencies with your superior pro skills, don't worry.
There are a lot of amazing sites coming out of the Webflow x GSAP community. Webflow and GSAP are both just tools, used by people of all levels. Plus everyone has to start somewhere when they're learning. "Pros" don't just magically materialise. www.accordion.net.au/ www.robhemus.co.uk/ www.sonarmusic.com.au/ www.str8fire.io/ www.itsoffbrand.com/
Interested in why you view it this way, is there something in particular that you're worried about? Pop motion was acquired by framer and is the most widely used animation library now, it's been a very positive move for them.
Nooo, nothing good happens after an acqusition
Same idea bro
My thoughts exactly
We're actually very hopeful. We went into this with a lot of thought and care. We understand the fear, but hopefully our actions over the next while will reassure people.
@@GreenSockLearning not sure about this statement. Did you read Open letter to WF and what users say about WF support and other "projects" they never finished like membership and Logic? Is this kind of company you would like to be run and in sync? IMO not good move but I wish you good luck. Just time will tell,
@@Mexad0n We've seen huge amounts of support, excitement and overlap between their community and ours. The leadership team and developers we've talked to have been exceptionally smart, kind, caring and respectful of GSAP's vision and responsibility to the wider web.
I'm sure most big companies have pain points and dissatisfied customers. Time will tell. We're positive about it.
I’m almost as excited as when I heard that Figma was going to be acquired by Adobe :S
Hats off to T.Ricks! Creating amazing tutorials
Lol, you're such an actress! Come what may I will follow Brody wherever he goes. You're lucky to have a leader of his stature and moral compass at the helm.
That's How a grate library die.
What a horrible news...
Time to cancel my GSAP membership
Sorry to see you go - thanks so much for the support in the past! 💚
Really bad news, webflow is cheap and nasty. Time to move to another animation platform.
Please correct me if i'm wrong, we can still use gsap with whatever we like, we're not gonna be forced over to webflow.
How many companies have said the same thing before eventually reneging on their word or promise. I won't hold my breath.
every single one. corporation only care about profit, they will change their tone and fk over community or developer in a heartbeat
Brody will ensure it all works out. He'll make sure no bad decisions are taken and that all employees have extended nap breaks and plenty of snacks.
GSAP is amazing. Even tho, I'm not really into, I've seen so many webflow stuff and found them quite interesting. Now seeing them combined, I'm kinda excited to see some crazy sleek websites come up
Webflow folks are certainly excited but as multiple years GSAP premium user I have some frustration and mixed feelings…
No new releases from May 2023. I even recently started checking GSAP site if all is Ok and it’s still alive and boom...
This is serious move. At least I expected to see and listen Jack in this video.
Looks like all development efforts will be focused on merging GSAP into Webflow and it’s gui etc which is obvious and new core features will be super rear.
Anyway I always be thankful to GSAP, wish Jack and his team luck and I do hope I’m wrong…
Hey Vitalli - thanks for voicing your concern. The core GSAP team will actually be in the same roles as we are currently, Webflow will be hiring and using their internal team for development of the integration. 💚 If anything we'll have more development time and resources to work on GSAP. It's hard with a small team and such a large community to support.
Are there any features you'd like to see? We pushed up 3.12.5 earlier this year, and have been making updates consistently to the docs, showcasing community sites, helping in the forums and working on bug fixes as per usual.
This is great news!!!
I was really bummed upon seeing this news for a sec. I've been using GSAP for years and have loved it, and personally have zero interest in Webflow (insufficient control, subpar performance). But on reflection, you've given us/me so much for free and your community managers have always been so helpful - posts rarely go unresponded in the forums. You guys deserve a nice payday. And it's unlikely that the corpo changes will start trickling in before at least a year has passed. And at this rate, MBA types at Webflow (or an M&A parent/partner) making garbage decisions with a beloved animation library acquisition will probably rank very low on our list of worries.
If you consider that Webflow's biggest competitor is Framer... Then look at how framer incubated, improved and grew PopMotion for 6 years after their acquisition this move makes more sense.
Framer used PopMotion to power their internal animation GUI, allowed it to be used on the wider web outside of Framer as "Framer-motion", then ultimately set it free entirely in a new and improved form.
Webflow would have nothing to gain by limiting GSAP for the wider web besides making the community absolutely furious and driving adoption to other animation libraries.
We're also still here. 👋We haven't just taken a payday and handed over the reigns entirely
So glad to hear Webflow/GSAP are keeping GSAP publicly available! Often these mergers don't go this way. Well done on a great merger. I have used both Webflow and GSAP, both excellent products!
We think it's a really good fit - both our communities are super creative designer/developers. Lots of overlap. Lots of love for the library.
This is fantastic. I am just relearning webflow after some time out. I have just been following your tuto you did (the one with the 'loading' letters animation). Question. Will this manual method of adding GSAP to Webflow become redundant?
The job I am about to undertake is pretty massive and will require a lot of GSAP investment and I don't want to do something that will be deprecated in 1 month with a new release of GSAP/Webflow...
No need to worry! Things will only get better/easier. GSAP won't get deprecated or anything like that. It'll most likely get more and more integrated, so go right ahead and build on GSAP as much as you want. In the future, you probably won't need to do a separate load of GSAP because it'll already be there, that's all. Have fun!
This is sad 😢 nothing good happens after an acquisition tbh
👀 www.crunchbase.com/acquisition/framer-acquires-popmotion--276b7669
.... npmtrends.com/framer-motion
Webflow sucks
Umm, anyone notice that the option to pay for a permanent business green is gone? Can y'all explain? It was 995 and you get updates and stuff for 3 years and then 99 a year after the 3 years. I actually came to make that purchase and now its gone for this 200 a year noise. Please tell me my UI is glitching.
Hey there. So sorry that you got swiped by this. We don't offer the permanent license anymore I'm afraid.
Pop us an email at info@greensock.com and we'll swing you a discount coupon for the inconvenience.
You also *may* not need a business license, let's check your use case over email - most commercial projects are covered by the no-charge license.
Gratulations!
Congratulations. I just uploaded a video of how I recreated the Apple AirPods 2 header scene using GSAP ScrollTrigger and Timeline :)
As a Webflow user who has been hesitant to fully explore GSAP, I’m now very happy because I’ll be learning GSAP in a more intuitive way. I hope that the interface and user experience will be designed in a way that’s not too different from coding itself, so I can eventually understand and use GSAP even without needing Webflow as a ‘go-between’.
This is something that's important to us - to provide a onramp into code itself 💚
@@SebastianZimmer-h4f as a GSAP user I hate fully hate Webflow and everyone, who made this disgusting anti-consumer company big
That's a shame. Everyone we've met who works there is smart, caring and really invested in helping people build for the web. The community we've interacted with in-person and online is a great mixture of people from different creative disciplines - all working together and helping each other level up. All very positive from our experience.
@@thevikingsock8527 I received a quote of $22,000 to develop a saas. I couldn't afford it, so I developed it for $2,000 with webflow wized and xano. I don't think you understand why Webflow is so successful.
@@thevikingsock8527 Lol, who pissed on your cornflakes ?
so time to fork soon ?
Noooooo 😭
😍😍😍😍
Ooooooooo no way 🎉
No new video for six month and now that 😐As far as I can see, this is no good news for me as a WordPress user unless we will see a standalone GSAP Graphical User Interface in the future. So let's hope this announcement is at least a neutral one in the long run and not turn into bad news in hindsight.
We would love to do more videos, but they take time and our small team handles a lot of support and other tasks.
The good news is that hopefully this move will mean more time for making educational content and more hands in the library helping with features and maintenance.
There won't be a standalone GUI for GSAP, but we never had the resources for that anyway, it wasn't a possibility. For you, as a WordPress user, you can just keep on using GSAP as you always were, no change at all. 💚
@@GreenSockLearning OK, so I can keep exploring all the great creative possibilities GSAP brings to JS and WordPress and could use 3rd party tools like motion_page without any worries 😌 And you? I hope you will benefit a bit from Webflows equity money and you get a well deserved pay-raise and Jack can buy a decent apartment, or a house or even more as compensation for all his hard work over the years! I say that without any irony, because my favorite library GSAP should thrive - in the one way or the other.
OK. Goodbye then.
will not renew my membership
If there's a specific concern driving you away, let us know and we'll do what we can to help. Otherwise - thanks so much for your support in the past when we needed it the most.
I am Brody … Brody is me 😂
I don't like Webflow, and also not clearly understand the motivation .
Anyway congrats to both.
this is the end of gsap
Our small team was stretched thinly before and the library was maintained by one person. This feels like a more stable beginning for us, not an end. More maintainers, more resources and more stability - for everyone on the wider web and Webflow. 💚
I only hope GSAP will remain accessible to everyone, and it won't brings specific things only accessible for webflow users. GSAP is such a powerful tool.
It will indeed! That's very important to us.
Webflow is an amateur tool for hobbyists. GSAP a library that pros use.
Here are some great Webflow X GSAP sites from our community overlap
www.accordion.net.au/
www.sonarmusic.com.au/
www.itsoffbrand.com/
www.chronothreads.com/
www.str8fire.io/
www.robhemus.co.uk/
www.kaloyanmad.com/
baronissisportsclub.webflow.io/
Enjoy them! We really did.
Also we love helping newbies and hobbyists learn GSAP and build for the web too. Everyone's welcome here.
Amateur hobbyist my ass
I don't use Webflow; however, the GASP library will exist as it does right now, to use on whichever platform you want.
You can still dunk on those hobbyists with the multi-million dollar web design agencies with your superior pro skills, don't worry.
There are a lot of amazing sites coming out of the Webflow x GSAP community.
Webflow and GSAP are both just tools, used by people of all levels. Plus everyone has to start somewhere when they're learning. "Pros" don't just magically materialise.
www.accordion.net.au/
www.robhemus.co.uk/
www.sonarmusic.com.au/
www.str8fire.io/
www.itsoffbrand.com/
Sad news. Time to move on.
Interested in why you view it this way, is there something in particular that you're worried about?
Pop motion was acquired by framer and is the most widely used animation library now, it's been a very positive move for them.
Hands down best announcement from this years Webflow conference, let's go!
only webflow employees think this is a good thing 😂
@@DoradoClaudia Apparently GSAP employees think so also
THE BEST NEWS EVER! 💥
We're so excited to bring GSAP to more Webflow folks and have more resources for the library in the future! 🥰
wow, now that's a good news
great news
Aye aye AYYYYEEE someone @ Timmy!!!