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My company ITS working with value index next generation vr system headset 240hrz and 4500 x 3500 per eye Deep learning layer interface tracking and link into the zxascale system IRIS but it is classified specs we have 1 trillion in funding project IRIS good TH-camr but you can't talked about military products
the G2 is the worst pcvr headset of all time, doesn't work right with anything, especially with AMD x570 motherboards, the newer updated cable didn't fix anything either, Windows Mixed Reality is useless and interferes with Steam vr games, a couple of hours of battery life on the G2 controllers, and you have to replace the batteries, 2 batteries per controller, blue lines at the edges of the fov or display in certain Steam vr games, tracking is never right and always off, I am never buying another Windows Mixed Reality vr headset ever again, right now the headset is sitting in my closet after I barely used the thing because I could never get the damn thing to work right, the G2 is the biggest piece of junk of a vr headset that I ever bought
The HP Reverb G2 v2 is still on sale for $399 directly from HP for their Labor Day sale. I do not know how long the sale will be going on for but since it is 2 days after labor day I don't see it being much longer. Mine G2 comes in on Saturday by the end of day.
Nice updated info. At this point, I still can't believe that VALVe hasn't made an Index Gen 2 or better. I waited too long to get one, so I haven't, because HMD's iterate so quickly, but year after year keeps passing with no new HMD. I'm still using Rift-S for PCVR and Quest 2 for stand-alone. I'm waiting for a whole new Valve HMD and then I will build a new pc and get Full-Body Tracking. Good thing is, prices will continue to drop as tech iterates.
There are rumors that their next headset will be a standalone like the quest is. So I imagine that will be the “index 2” at least in spirit. Except it in 2023-2024.
@@mrsittingmongoose Yeah, I know about that, but I'd rather have a full-PCVR, true next-gen HMD. It's not too far off-base to guess that they'll use the existing Steam Deck hardware as a footprint for that and just downsize it to fit a stand-alone HMD. I would largely guess that the Steam Deck itself is really just more or less a beta test for that tech as they design that HMD in the background. It's less about the power of handheld PC gaming and more of a proof of concept.
Try PCVR on the Quest 2, a pretty awesome graphics upgrade with almost unnoticeable latency. With a 5G/6GHz router. Air Link is free (built in feature) and Virtual Desktop is $20. Honestly Air Link works really well but it’s nice to have both options sometimes
With my Lenovo Explorer I was using the Kinect 2.0 to help with the tracking and to be able to kick things. With software like Driver4VR, you can use the Kinect 2.0 for full body tracking on your PC. I don't think that it directly tracks the controllers but it knows where your hands are. So it does help.
I dislike HP and their distributors for refusing to make use of the "V2" name, or anything else to distinguish the two versions. Nobody wants to spend a lot of money on the V1. And there's no valid reason for making people need to ask around at every retailer whether the one they sell is the V1 or V2. Name changes on version updates is done for a reason, and HP is refusing. I guess they want ignorant customers to "accidentally" end up buying V1's.
love your work! just found it very strange that you used the EXACT same words back to back, about watching the first review? hope by mistake? we do listen, you know...
Been on a rift s for 3 years. Going to be nice getting my g2 in a few days. I was going to order off Amazon. But hearing about a version 2 I went ahead and ordered from HP to be safe. Plus it was 200$ off!
they fixed neither the controllers (shape and battery and lack of features) and the tracknig. so they changed nothing that actually was bad. the two things that stopped me from buying one are there those giant rings suck on the headset give me quest 2 controllers on this and trackikng and i'd pay 600$ for this easily!
I’ve owned other VR headsets. But my god, the clarity of this headset is unmatched. I don’t know HOW people can compare it to things like the quest. It is like comparing a Honda to a Ferrari. The reverb hands down blows it away. And it’s honestly like…. $100 more expensive. I’ve never experienced monitor-level display quality and insane quality. If you’re buying VR trust me, the reverb is insane. Zero screen door, 4k resolution per eye. It’s nuts. Shit is magic
HP's Customer Service is easily the worst I've ever encountered in any walk of life. When my G2 suffered the common fault when it got warm of the lenses failing in turn for 10-20 seconds they simply refused to answer any of my efforts to get this resolved. They're a disgrace.
The only problem I have with the headset is that theres no touch controls like how other headset have. Thrillseeker made a video on this and explained why it was kinda of a big deal. But overall 600 dollars is worth it especially with it being improved
Agree, the controllers are the biggest con now of the headset. Most of the biggest complaints are now resolved but now hopefully the next iteration gets better controllers too
@@CasandChary I would be satisfied with better controllers (hand/finger tracking and continued improved overall tracking) for the current iteration if possible. I believe that's all that's needed, besides wireless with full res and smooth optimized performance for flight sims. ;)
I have read that you do not have to use the HP specific controllers. Any WMR controllers will do. I am thinking I might end up using the controllers from my Lenovo Explorer as it does have a touch sensitive D-pad on it. I will know for sure this weekend when my HP G2 comes in.
@@dinkyb124 Use a Kinect 2.0 (the one that came with the Xbox One) and Driver4VR or similar software. It does full body tracking, including fingers. And it works really well.
I almost got a Quest 2 as an upgrade to my Lenovo Explorer. Then the HP Reverb G2 v2 went on sale for $399 and I was able to get 10% cash back through my credit card. So $360 for me. With the $100 price hike of the Quest 2 I was looking at $400 for the base unit then another $79 for the link cable to be able to play my many SteamVR games. Then the link cable does not provide power to the headset so I would be limited to 2 hours of game play before having to recharge the headset and I need more than 2 hours. Or add to the overall cost by buying an external battery pack. So it would be $500 plus for the Quest and $360 for the HP G2. The only advantage the Quest 2 has is that a PC is not required.
Your original review was one of the deciding factors in getting an HP Reverb G2. I've had it since late last year, and coming from the Samsung Odyssey+, the resolution is fantastic! Thanks for another great review. :)
Cas you have a great voice and your presentation is excellent 👌💯👀 really interested in this VR headset and the micro-OLED'(s) as a 'vs' which one to go for (?) in the future... keep up the great work 💐😎🌟
"dont wait too long for the deal" this is the wrong attitude with constantly updated tech, its now just 500 normal price, the longer u wait the cheaper it will be usually with items like this
Thanks for showing me that Australia is in the list of places that can buy this Version 2 of the Headset, Cas. As I always felt that v1.0 had too many drawbacks. But now most of these seem to be fixed, and especially with the option of the wider FOV. So this should be much more suitable for any Sim Racers out there like myself but all I need now is that BEEFY PC to run the thing, hahahaha. [:]-)
I suggest buying from the Microsoft store if on special. Use vpn in America then use a shipping forwarding services to get it shipped to Australia. All up cost me 650 aud. .
If they listened to customers they would have replaced my v1 with a v2. My v1 is bricked because of their incompetence. and it's passed warranty period
Thanks for the review. I bought the HP Reverb G2 version 1 in March 2021, but I rarely used it because I was busy raising my kid. Now that I have more time on my hands, the new headset is out in Canada. I wish I held onto my money and bought the new version. Shows that sometimes, patience pays off.
Yeh the quest 2 is amazing for pcvr...yeh the fob could be better but everything else is fine for me. Also the fact for quest 2 only games you can up the resolution in side quest was a game changer, I wondered why rec room on the quest 2 looked kind fuzzy and not good then I upped the Res and wow total difference...I am addicted to paintball in rec room it's fantastic...most thing I go on tbh
I have both the Quest 2 and HP Reverb G2. I only use quest for wireless play. Side by side, the G2 visuals are very noticeably better -- although PCVR on Q2 is also pretty good with the link cable.
Wouldn't someone be able to tell whether it was a Version 1 or 2 by looking at the padded face cushion insert? I noticed there is a removeable spacer on the V2, does V1 also have the removeable spacer? Also, I'm wondering if one would be able to tell by looking at the unit serial number; if the manufacturer would let the public know where the change occurred in the serial number sequence, it might prove helpful. Not that I know anything about the subject, I'm an old 69 and just getting into flight simming; presently gathering components for a computer build. Case is a Thorzone Mjolnir in Stealth color, mobo is a Gigabyte X570SI Aorus Pro AX. So far, those are the only components I have. I really like your videos, very clear presentation. Great work, thank you!
I am among the 16% of home computer owners that have Apple computers (and MacOS). (I also have an Oculus Quest 2.) Is there a tethered headset that we can use? Currently I can stream VR videos stored on my desktop with FireStream and view them on my headset with Skybox. But what can you suggest for games in VR?
You didnt mention it it STILL doesn't have capacitive sensors on the controllers which is absolutely inexcusable since every other VR headset for the past 8 years DO have.
I bet the face plate is still too narrow for larger heads and the max IPD is still not over 70mm, and I hate Window Mixed Reality, it keeps creating virtual screens that I cannot get too, and opening apps on them, that I can also not get too, I have to keep disabling them, very annoying.
The real major issue with this headset is the Steam controller bindings. Even though the controller is identical to Oculus, there are sooo many games you try to play and it simply does not work. You try for ages to customise bindings or use other profiles to no avail, super frustrating. I'm now waiting for the next Meta Quest to avoid incompatibility issues with controllers, since everyone will support oculus.
100% wanna buy it. Got the Index > G2 v1 a year ago but bc of the wire, ended up not using it so its sitting in a box now doing nothing and i need to dump it for a big loss before its worthless. I need it for FS2020 and AC realism sims and nothing else. Alyx and Saber was fun on Index but never really used it cause it was cumbersome to setup properly and get immersed into. But atm overworked a lot and burned out so will have to wait some years till that cools down and i can have time for it. So will wait for probably v3.
Meta is the gorilla in the room. Any vr headset out now is competing with quest2s sold at a loss. Hp should at least have wireless and ar/mr passthrough.
there are 1.2v batteries? Like all devices that use 1.5v AA batteries, it doesn't matter what you use. As long as they are 1.5v AA , and won't blow up the controller. I would not recommend using 1.2v batteries, assuming they would even power the device.
Mobile vr? Like the Quest? The reverb g2 is the same as the quest but if you take the spacer off it’s a little larger but you do see the edges of the display like she stated
The resolution alone could certainly kill the Index, but unfortunately the tracking and FOV is poor enough that many will stick with the Index, even with its inferior resolution.
It is important to mention for people with AMD systems that are experiencing connectivity issues using the reverb G2 v1. You can get a free V2 cable replacement when contacting customer support.
@@JorgTheElder That's where dynamic foveated rendering using eye tracking comes in as well as technology like dlss/fsr. Dlss for vr is promising from what we've seen so far but still not good enough
I have the OG complete valve index set, and just purchased a G2 V2 from a guy used 400. I really love the sweat spot, not feeling the need to adjust all the time. Resolution is much nicer than the Index. I think the god rays on the Index annoyed me the most. I'm going to use my index controllers with it. I really am enjoying it. Fov definitely could be better, not a show stopper but hey it's what I can do at the moment. I wear contacts and removed the spacer to get the best. I'm just happy it's so clear! I like to spend hours in so it really matters.
going from an index to a g2v2, what do you miss the most? (dont say anything about controllers cuz I'm getting them too) also If you get base stations, will they track the headset too or just the controllers?
To really solve blind spots without light house tracking, controllers need their own inside out tracking. Though I don't know how HP missed the front of the headset twice!
The quest 2s tracking is pretty damn good. Perfect, no. But i play contractors all the time and it doesnt have the problems shown in this video fro the reverb g2
@@heehee63 The quest2 proved that good inside out tracking is possible, so I don't know what MSs problem is (hp has to depend on WMR for its tracking). But I was talking about blind spots. Q2 controllers need line of sight. Fix that and inside out tracking can has all the advantages of base station without the setup of base stations. Full range of controller motion, body tracking, even props if your using it for animation.
My only gripe with this headset is the tracking using light (consume unnecessarily a lot of energy and space with those big ring badly positioned) .. I guess it's for using cheap cameras to optimize the price
@@JorgTheElder yes, with infrared they could have emitted a smaller amount of light and compensated with good infrared cameras. OCULUS did a good job of doing it
and this is my cue to leave. even smaller fov? no thank you, i already hated the small fov of the vive pro. seriously, wtf is wrong with these companies? there are only 2 metrics for a good vr-headset, its resolution and its fov. how hard can it be to keep up?
@@JorgTheElder i guess resolution is more important, if you cant afford anything better, then yes, ppd first, fov second. but 90 or above is realy stretching it man. even the cv1 had 95.
@@JorgTheElder thats what someone that hasnt experienced big fov would say since i got my 8kx i cant use any other headset,90 feels like im looking trough a toilet paper roll tube,all immersion is gone but i didnt know what i was missing until i had it.
Can any one answer this question DO I USE THE SETTINGS INSTEAM VR OR THE HEADSET ITSELF LIKE RESOLUTION AND OTHER GRAPHIC SETTINGS PLS HELP they seem to conflict eachother
My new need in VR is making sure the controllers track great. Playing zenith with bad tracking or trying to reload in onward is the most frustrating thing.
more like the worst pcvr headset of all time, it doesn't work without a external powered usb 3.0 hub for AMD x570 motherboards, and at times the G2 disconnects often, the newer version 2 cable didn't fix anything either, the G2 was the biggest pain in the butt of a pcvr headset to set up and trying to get it to work right, which it never did, the version 2 cable didn't do crap to fix any issues with AMD x570 motherboards, the G2 is the biggest failure of a pcvr headset that was ever released, HP should get out of the vr department, this headset is garbage
What do you think about the HP Reverb G2 v2? What is your current favorite PC VR headset?
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Quest 2 no doubt (it works great on a good pc)
My company ITS working with value index next generation vr system headset 240hrz and 4500 x 3500 per eye Deep learning layer interface tracking and link into the zxascale system IRIS but it is classified specs we have 1 trillion in funding project IRIS good TH-camr but you can't talked about military products
@@masayoshsato7906 1 trillion in funding?
the G2 is the worst pcvr headset of all time, doesn't work right with anything, especially with AMD x570 motherboards, the newer updated cable didn't fix anything either, Windows Mixed Reality is useless and interferes with Steam vr games, a couple of hours of battery life on the G2 controllers, and you have to replace the batteries, 2 batteries per controller, blue lines at the edges of the fov or display in certain Steam vr games, tracking is never right and always off, I am never buying another Windows Mixed Reality vr headset ever again, right now the headset is sitting in my closet after I barely used the thing because I could never get the damn thing to work right, the G2 is the biggest piece of junk of a vr headset that I ever bought
I own a g2v2, its grwat, definately has weird quirks to it, it is clearer for me than the pro2, it does get very warm though.
Great video as always! :)
Minor correction: The AMD fix I am almost certain applies to AMD motherboards, not AMDs GPUs :)
Thank you for that!
The HP Reverb G2 v2 is still on sale for $399 directly from HP for their Labor Day sale. I do not know how long the sale will be going on for but since it is 2 days after labor day I don't see it being much longer. Mine G2 comes in on Saturday by the end of day.
How is it? Does it have quest 2 level tracking?
I spoke to HP, the SKU for V2 is : 1N0T4AA and V1 was: 1G5U1AA hope that helps
This is the info I was digging for right and left, thanks
And isn't it the opposite? I've seen a new Reverb G2 V2 for sale on eBay listed as 1G5U1AA in at least two listings..
Nice updated info. At this point, I still can't believe that VALVe hasn't made an Index Gen 2 or better. I waited too long to get one, so I haven't, because HMD's iterate so quickly, but year after year keeps passing with no new HMD. I'm still using Rift-S for PCVR and Quest 2 for stand-alone. I'm waiting for a whole new Valve HMD and then I will build a new pc and get Full-Body Tracking. Good thing is, prices will continue to drop as tech iterates.
There are rumors that their next headset will be a standalone like the quest is. So I imagine that will be the “index 2” at least in spirit. Except it in 2023-2024.
@@mrsittingmongoose Yeah, I know about that, but I'd rather have a full-PCVR, true next-gen HMD. It's not too far off-base to guess that they'll use the existing Steam Deck hardware as a footprint for that and just downsize it to fit a stand-alone HMD. I would largely guess that the Steam Deck itself is really just more or less a beta test for that tech as they design that HMD in the background. It's less about the power of handheld PC gaming and more of a proof of concept.
Yep... Everyone is waiting for the new Valve hmd 😵
Try PCVR on the Quest 2, a pretty awesome graphics upgrade with almost unnoticeable latency. With a 5G/6GHz router. Air Link is free (built in feature) and Virtual Desktop is $20. Honestly Air Link works really well but it’s nice to have both options sometimes
Can I buy your rift s controllers when you replace the rift s. They're discontinued so yeah...
With my Lenovo Explorer I was using the Kinect 2.0 to help with the tracking and to be able to kick things. With software like Driver4VR, you can use the Kinect 2.0 for full body tracking on your PC. I don't think that it directly tracks the controllers but it knows where your hands are. So it does help.
I dislike HP and their distributors for refusing to make use of the "V2" name, or anything else to distinguish the two versions.
Nobody wants to spend a lot of money on the V1. And there's no valid reason for making people need to ask around at every retailer whether the one they sell is the V1 or V2. Name changes on version updates is done for a reason, and HP is refusing. I guess they want ignorant customers to "accidentally" end up buying V1's.
I have to agree with you. If I was HP I'd just sell the V1 cheaper so it's still a worthy purchase for those who can't afford the V2.
@@SirWolf2018 with a v2 cable and after market gasket the differences are pretty negligible.
@@garus6155 Alright, good point.
v1 doesn't have the removable spacer. v2 can be distinguished by this feature.
love your work!
just found it very strange that you used the EXACT same words back to back, about watching the first review? hope by mistake? we do listen, you know...
Hello 1st
Been on a rift s for 3 years. Going to be nice getting my g2 in a few days. I was going to order off Amazon. But hearing about a version 2 I went ahead and ordered from HP to be safe. Plus it was 200$ off!
how is it so far?
How do you like it so far? I'm also using a rift S and want something better
Great review, thanks for the update Cas! If I survive this year without World War III breaking out I definitely have my eye on this headset.
@Hafsat Rabiu adam omg!!!!! i won i won!!!!! how much money do i have to send you to get my stuff!!!!??? 🤩
too sad, I hope they improve res to 2560x2560 per eye...
I just come here for your voice. 😂
they fixed neither the controllers (shape and battery and lack of features) and the tracknig.
so they changed nothing that actually was bad. the two things that stopped me from buying one are there
those giant rings suck on the headset
give me quest 2 controllers on this and trackikng and i'd pay 600$ for this easily!
quest 2 controllers are terrible
Thing is half life alyx on my quest 2 looks beyond amazing....I'd never go with a cable again
You're getting a little mixed up. The new cable improves support for AMD motherboards (x570) etc and has little to do with AMD or Nvidia GPUs.
No it doesn't. The new cable did not solve the problem. This is a lie.
I’ve owned other VR headsets. But my god, the clarity of this headset is unmatched.
I don’t know HOW people can compare it to things like the quest. It is like comparing a Honda to a Ferrari. The reverb hands down blows it away. And it’s honestly like…. $100 more expensive.
I’ve never experienced monitor-level display quality and insane quality. If you’re buying VR trust me, the reverb is insane. Zero screen door, 4k resolution per eye. It’s nuts. Shit is magic
HP's Customer Service is easily the worst I've ever encountered in any walk of life. When my G2 suffered the common fault when it got warm of the lenses failing in turn for 10-20 seconds they simply refused to answer any of my efforts to get this resolved. They're a disgrace.
The only problem I have with the headset is that theres no touch controls like how other headset have. Thrillseeker made a video on this and explained why it was kinda of a big deal. But overall 600 dollars is worth it especially with it being improved
Agree, the controllers are the biggest con now of the headset. Most of the biggest complaints are now resolved but now hopefully the next iteration gets better controllers too
@@CasandChary I would be satisfied with better controllers (hand/finger tracking and continued improved overall tracking) for the current iteration if possible. I believe that's all that's needed, besides wireless with full res and smooth optimized performance for flight sims. ;)
I have read that you do not have to use the HP specific controllers. Any WMR controllers will do. I am thinking I might end up using the controllers from my Lenovo Explorer as it does have a touch sensitive D-pad on it. I will know for sure this weekend when my HP G2 comes in.
@@dinkyb124 Use a Kinect 2.0 (the one that came with the Xbox One) and Driver4VR or similar software. It does full body tracking, including fingers. And it works really well.
does this sell in the Philippines?
Quest 2 may be inferior in some parameters, but the price and standalone feature are killers. Best buy of 2021 for me!
I almost got a Quest 2 as an upgrade to my Lenovo Explorer. Then the HP Reverb G2 v2 went on sale for $399 and I was able to get 10% cash back through my credit card. So $360 for me. With the $100 price hike of the Quest 2 I was looking at $400 for the base unit then another $79 for the link cable to be able to play my many SteamVR games. Then the link cable does not provide power to the headset so I would be limited to 2 hours of game play before having to recharge the headset and I need more than 2 hours. Or add to the overall cost by buying an external battery pack. So it would be $500 plus for the Quest and $360 for the HP G2. The only advantage the Quest 2 has is that a PC is not required.
you cannot compare streamed, compressed and distorded video signal of Quest 2 with a raw and clean signal via wired cable of R2
its only 450 rn
Your original review was one of the deciding factors in getting an HP Reverb G2. I've had it since late last year, and coming from the Samsung Odyssey+, the resolution is fantastic! Thanks for another great review. :)
I wanted to get it but I heard in win 11 this headset is not working, crashing steam VR and games all the time.
@@Voltomess you dodged a bullet. I had one on Windows 10 and it still had major software and hardware problems.
Cas you have a great voice and your presentation is excellent 👌💯👀 really interested in this VR headset and the micro-OLED'(s) as a 'vs' which one to go for (?) in the future... keep up the great work 💐😎🌟
"dont wait too long for the deal" this is the wrong attitude with constantly updated tech, its now just 500 normal price, the longer u wait the cheaper it will be usually with items like this
huh
Thanks for showing me that Australia is in the list of places that can buy this Version 2 of the Headset, Cas. As I always felt that v1.0 had too many drawbacks. But now most of these seem to be fixed, and especially with the option of the wider FOV. So this should be much more suitable for any Sim Racers out there like myself but all I need now is that BEEFY PC to run the thing, hahahaha. [:]-)
I suggest buying from the Microsoft store if on special. Use vpn in America then use a shipping forwarding services to get it shipped to Australia. All up cost me 650 aud. .
There's like not a single individual in that home who carries a wallet, don't target us now lol
I'll still stick with my quest 2, but it seems like they are listening to consumers and moving in a positive direction which is awesome.
If they listened to customers they would have replaced my v1 with a v2. My v1 is bricked because of their incompetence. and it's passed warranty period
Having a g-2 and a quest 2 pretty much covers all my gaming needs.
I have quest 2 is this worth it 😳
@@B3you_ for watching movies and playing steam games nothing beats its clarity at that price.
@@B3you_ imo not at all considering how terrible the clarity gets outside of the direct center of your vision.
But you still have to do sketchy stuff to make fullbody stuff workout?
why does vr footage look so jittery? Is that what you are seeing through the headset?
Thanks for the review. I bought the HP Reverb G2 version 1 in March 2021, but I rarely used it because I was busy raising my kid. Now that I have more time on my hands, the new headset is out in Canada. I wish I held onto my money and bought the new version. Shows that sometimes, patience pays off.
I currently use my Quest 2 for PCVR. I’ll stick with that until a new product comes out that improves on the Quest 2. Great video!
Yeh the quest 2 is amazing for pcvr...yeh the fob could be better but everything else is fine for me. Also the fact for quest 2 only games you can up the resolution in side quest was a game changer, I wondered why rec room on the quest 2 looked kind fuzzy and not good then I upped the Res and wow total difference...I am addicted to paintball in rec room it's fantastic...most thing I go on tbh
I have both the Quest 2 and HP Reverb G2. I only use quest for wireless play. Side by side, the G2 visuals are very noticeably better -- although PCVR on Q2 is also pretty good with the link cable.
@@jlepage36 have you tried virtual desktop? It looks a lot better for me than airline does.
Should i buy this one or occulus rift s?
WHY SHOULD BUY VERSION 1 THAN ?
how we know if its the new version when buying it
Wouldn't someone be able to tell whether it was a Version 1 or 2 by looking at the padded face cushion insert? I noticed there is a removeable spacer on the V2, does V1 also have the removeable spacer? Also, I'm wondering if one would be able to tell by looking at the unit serial number; if the manufacturer would let the public know where the change occurred in the serial number sequence, it might prove helpful. Not that I know anything about the subject, I'm an old 69 and just getting into flight simming; presently gathering components for a computer build. Case is a Thorzone Mjolnir in Stealth color, mobo is a Gigabyte X570SI Aorus Pro AX. So far, those are the only components I have. I really like your videos, very clear presentation. Great work, thank you!
I am among the 16% of home computer owners that have Apple computers (and MacOS).
(I also have an Oculus Quest 2.)
Is there a tethered headset that we can use?
Currently I can stream VR videos stored on my desktop with FireStream and view them on my headset with Skybox.
But what can you suggest for games in VR?
You didnt mention it it STILL doesn't have capacitive sensors on the controllers which is absolutely inexcusable since every other VR headset for the past 8 years DO have.
No reason why Microsoft couldn't release the software for Windows 10 as well, you know "the last version of Windows". Screw Windows 11.
I bet the face plate is still too narrow for larger heads and the max IPD is still not over 70mm, and I hate Window Mixed Reality, it keeps creating virtual screens that I cannot get too, and opening apps on them, that I can also not get too, I have to keep disabling them, very annoying.
The real major issue with this headset is the Steam controller bindings. Even though the controller is identical to Oculus, there are sooo many games you try to play and it simply does not work. You try for ages to customise bindings or use other profiles to no avail, super frustrating. I'm now waiting for the next Meta Quest to avoid incompatibility issues with controllers, since everyone will support oculus.
V2 is still broken
100% wanna buy it. Got the Index > G2 v1 a year ago but bc of the wire, ended up not using it so its sitting in a box now doing nothing and i need to dump it for a big loss before its worthless.
I need it for FS2020 and AC realism sims and nothing else. Alyx and Saber was fun on Index but never really used it cause it was cumbersome to setup properly and get immersed into.
But atm overworked a lot and burned out so will have to wait some years till that cools down and i can have time for it. So will wait for probably v3.
The controllers still suck and this is pretty old news V2. I would buy if the controllers were better and has force feedback
Oh that's good to hear. Cool.
Yea.. I like the direction we're going :)
Great headset. Controllers suck though. You have to use index controllers, which means you need watchman dongles base stations
Meta is the gorilla in the room. Any vr headset out now is competing with quest2s sold at a loss. Hp should at least have wireless and ar/mr passthrough.
Lots of these showing up on ebay this fall for like 250/300$ nice!
I wanted to get it but I heard in win 11 this headset is not working, crashing steam VR and games all the time.
My eyelashes brush up against the lenses when removing the spacer :(
Got it for $310 new now 3 months after this review, still worth it?
Oh goody more tech an no games sounds like so much fun 🤦🏾
great review ~ thank you. i trust your words ~ very genuine.
I keep serving you drinks in Startenders haha
I hope it has whisky in there 🤤
@@CasandChary heck yea! youre in the game, but you havent made a video on it. what up with that
$200 off today. Worth it for $399??
yes
I appreciate the stat display at around 2:57. Nice work. Good video.
Do the controllers still need 1.5V recharable batteries or can they work with normal 1.2V? Did they fix the buzzing haptics?
there are 1.2v batteries? Like all devices that use 1.5v AA batteries, it doesn't matter what you use. As long as they are 1.5v AA , and won't blow up the controller. I would not recommend using 1.2v batteries, assuming they would even power the device.
Where can you buy this headset in EU?
I have a mobile VR, and the FOV is super bad. Is the hp reverb g2 somewhat similar? (It looks like im looking through two tubes)
Mobile vr? Like the Quest? The reverb g2 is the same as the quest but if you take the spacer off it’s a little larger but you do see the edges of the display like she stated
HP Reverb is gonna kill the Index? Now we just need a standalone heatset to take the oculus Quest 2's crown.
The resolution alone could certainly kill the Index, but unfortunately the tracking and FOV is poor enough that many will stick with the Index, even with its inferior resolution.
It is important to mention for people with AMD systems that are experiencing connectivity issues using the reverb G2 v1. You can get a free V2 cable replacement when contacting customer support.
Have it, doesn't fix any of the issues.
That’s for yr review
Hi Cas and Chary, I wonder, which VR do you suggest for work? Thank you
I would say the pico 4 or ocolus
Thanks for the review! I've been planning to upgrade from V1 to V2, but I haven't seen a review so far. Now I did. :)
BTW, I do have an AMD CPU & GPU. :)
What I want in the next gen VR is 180 degree FOV, vertical and horizontal.
@@JorgTheElder That's where dynamic foveated rendering using eye tracking comes in as well as technology like dlss/fsr. Dlss for vr is promising from what we've seen so far but still not good enough
I have the OG complete valve index set, and just purchased a G2 V2 from a guy used 400. I really love the sweat spot, not feeling the need to adjust all the time. Resolution is much nicer than the Index. I think the god rays on the Index annoyed me the most. I'm going to use my index controllers with it. I really am enjoying it. Fov definitely could be better, not a show stopper but hey it's what I can do at the moment. I wear contacts and removed the spacer to get the best. I'm just happy it's so clear! I like to spend hours in so it really matters.
going from an index to a g2v2, what do you miss the most? (dont say anything about controllers cuz I'm getting them too)
also
If you get base stations, will they track the headset too or just the controllers?
To really solve blind spots without light house tracking, controllers need their own inside out tracking. Though I don't know how HP missed the front of the headset twice!
The quest 2s tracking is pretty damn good. Perfect, no. But i play contractors all the time and it doesnt have the problems shown in this video fro the reverb g2
@@heehee63 The quest2 proved that good inside out tracking is possible, so I don't know what MSs problem is (hp has to depend on WMR for its tracking). But I was talking about blind spots. Q2 controllers need line of sight.
Fix that and inside out tracking can has all the advantages of base station without the setup of base stations. Full range of controller motion, body tracking, even props if your using it for animation.
My only gripe with this headset is the tracking using light (consume unnecessarily a lot of energy and space with those big ring badly positioned) .. I guess it's for using cheap cameras to optimize the price
@@JorgTheElder yes, with infrared they could have emitted a smaller amount of light and compensated with good infrared cameras.
OCULUS did a good job of doing it
Thanks Cas.
Great review !
Is it worth upgrading from the htc vive pro 2, mostly in aspect of clarity?
No way
Lol nah i had both,the vp 2 is an upgrade
@@Cazanu417 thanks for the heads up man👍
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and this is my cue to leave. even smaller fov? no thank you, i already hated the small fov of the vive pro.
seriously, wtf is wrong with these companies? there are only 2 metrics for a good vr-headset, its resolution and its fov. how hard can it be to keep up?
@@JorgTheElder i guess resolution is more important, if you cant afford anything better, then yes, ppd first, fov second. but 90 or above is realy stretching it man. even the cv1 had 95.
@@JorgTheElder thats what someone that hasnt experienced big fov would say since i got my 8kx i cant use any other headset,90 feels like im looking trough a toilet paper roll tube,all immersion is gone but i didnt know what i was missing until i had it.
Forged Ember ftw 🔥
Yes yes yes 🔥
Can any one answer this question DO I USE THE SETTINGS INSTEAM VR OR THE HEADSET ITSELF LIKE RESOLUTION AND OTHER GRAPHIC SETTINGS PLS HELP they seem to conflict eachother
My new need in VR is making sure the controllers track great. Playing zenith with bad tracking or trying to reload in onward is the most frustrating thing.
more like the worst pcvr headset of all time, it doesn't work without a external powered usb 3.0 hub for AMD x570 motherboards, and at times the G2 disconnects often, the newer version 2 cable didn't fix anything either, the G2 was the biggest pain in the butt of a pcvr headset to set up and trying to get it to work right, which it never did, the version 2 cable didn't do crap to fix any issues with AMD x570 motherboards, the G2 is the biggest failure of a pcvr headset that was ever released, HP should get out of the vr department, this headset is garbage
But the v2 resolution is down from 2166 x 2166 to 1376 x 768? At least that's what I have been able to find on line..
Thanks for the updated review! I am glad they improved some things. Also, I love my Ridge wallet, I am glad they are sponsoring you!
i dont know, i think the best headset of all time is the quest 2