My cheapo Affinity Tele went from super noisy to silent after I shielded the plate and cavities with copper tape. I also put Tex Mex pups and it's terrific now.
I routinely shield cavities with aluminium foil (from the kitchen), stuck down with Pritt Stick. I try to do it in one piece, and overlap the body (like this guy did with a blob of conductive paint), and then put insulation tape anywhere that internal components might touch the foil. Going from _no_ shielding to _some_ shielding always cures the problem, without being picky about whether there's a perfect Faraday cage. I prefer aluminium foil over copper, which seems to suck tone. To connect a ground wire, I put a small, large headed screw through the foil, with the wire wrapped around it.
That's interesting about the aluminum foil, have you considered using Nashua HVAC foil tape? it's pretty cheap and it's conductive through it's adhesive and it's aluminum.
@@pawnshopguitarguy Thanks for the tip. I haven't tried that. When I tried copper, I used garden slug tape, and crucially, the adhesive is conductive, so there's no need to solder the strips together. But I prefer aluminium. If HVAC tape adhesive is conductive, then that should be just as good as kitchen foil, and a lot easier to apply. As you note, it's cheap, so worth a gamble.
I still don't get shielding and adding an additional bridge ground on a tele Bridge pup grounds via mounting screws thru the base plate. Neck pup is fully shielded and grounded. Control plate is metal and is essentially a ground plate. Shielding the cavities and adding a separate ground to the bridge can create ground loops. As far as creating a faraday cage, there is a gap in continuity between pickups and mounting surfaces. The bridge pup does not have a grounded shield. So all that effort gives negligible results in stopping RFI. Good wax potted pups and wiring the cap to the #3 lug and ground #2 lug on the tone pot (60's wiring) helps to limit RFI traveling all the way through the circuit.
Nice job! Regarding shielding against mains hum on guitars, the term 'faraday cage' is in the ballpark but slightly misused by most of us and that included me before I was corrected and studied it a little deeper. Since the pickups almost always protrude outside the shielded body cavities they are also outside the boundary of the 'cage' and subject to interference. Can't avoid that unless you lower them below the boundary of the cage. But for me, good thorough shielding and proper ground continuity has always reduced the hum noise from rf interference. Next you have to learn how your single coil guitar pickups react to that in different playing positions and ranges with respect to your amp, leaky house wiring, flourescent lights etc. That's what I believe now but I'm always open to having my mind changed by folks who know more about it. Good show, just subscribed.
I have to try this. I have a beauiful Classic Vibe 60s Custom Telecaster that has upgraded hardware, including bridge, electronics, switch and pickups. It plays and sound great... but it is noisy. I have have been told by two luthiers that the noise is normal for single coils, but I have quite a few other single coil guitars, including an American Standard Telecaster and they're not noisy. I really love this guitar but the electrical noise really ruins the experience for me. If I touchthe bridge plate the sound stops. Touching the strings help but there is still a bit of noise. But otherwise there is that constunt hum or however you describe it.
I have seen some Tele pickups (especially hot ones) that are prone to noise, but a hum that stops when you ground the bridge with your hand tends to be something with the grounding. I would check or even re-solder the grounds. Good luck!
As it had a lot of gunk on it, I assumed this was the first generation Classic Vibe like mine. They had the brass saddles. Notice that these brass saddles are compensated so it must have been an upgrade. My classic vibe tele is pretty quiet, not quite Gibson humbucker quiet but it doesn't bother me.
The CV Tele in the video as it turns out had been upgraded about 7-8 years ago and the tech had applied shielding paint when he rewired and replaced the pickups. I thought it was stock when the owner brought it to me, though.
Looks quite light when you pick it up. I've seen/heard people mentioning that the pine bodies is quite heavy on the Classic Vibes. But it also looked like it had been used for some time. So if the wood have dried up a bit more, then it might've gotten lighter. Since it's heavily sealed, it wouldn't have taken in sweat or any other moist that easily. But doesn't that mean that moist will also have trouble evaporating out of it as well? Or is that exactly the difference? Vapor escapes more easily than solid water gets in?
Wood can take many years to dry, and the shrinking and checking on some of my older (20-30 year old) guitar's finishes helps confirm this. Basically avoiding high heat or sudden cooling by leaving an instrument in a car or in a an uninsulated space like a garage is your best defense against "fast" drying and shrinking which is damaging. If you're comfortable so is your guitar...
I have a Sqire Telecaster like that one. The B string is LOUD If you accidentally hit it while soloing you can hear it across the street. Would you have any idea what would cause this? Thanks if you have an answer
Is it louder unplugged or just plugged in? If it's only when it's plugged in then it's probably something weird with the pickup. If it does it unplugged then I would look at the nut and /or saddles having something out of whack, either too low or improperly cut string grooves.
I'm assuming it's the bridge pickup and the b string pole piece has probably got too much magneticity - it might be fixable with a degausser like electronics techs used to use. Otherwise you might want to look at a pickup upgrade, which is really pretty easy and not too expensive on a Telecaster @@kaivrock
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I think it's better than WD40 for what most people use WD40 for.
My cheapo Affinity Tele went from super noisy to silent after I shielded the plate and cavities with copper tape. I also put Tex Mex pups and it's terrific now.
I routinely shield cavities with aluminium foil (from the kitchen), stuck down with Pritt Stick. I try to do it in one piece, and overlap the body (like this guy did with a blob of conductive paint), and then put insulation tape anywhere that internal components might touch the foil. Going from _no_ shielding to _some_ shielding always cures the problem, without being picky about whether there's a perfect Faraday cage. I prefer aluminium foil over copper, which seems to suck tone. To connect a ground wire, I put a small, large headed screw through the foil, with the wire wrapped around it.
That's interesting about the aluminum foil, have you considered using Nashua HVAC foil tape? it's pretty cheap and it's conductive through it's adhesive and it's aluminum.
@@pawnshopguitarguy Thanks for the tip. I haven't tried that. When I tried copper, I used garden slug tape, and crucially, the adhesive is conductive, so there's no need to solder the strips together. But I prefer aluminium. If HVAC tape adhesive is conductive, then that should be just as good as kitchen foil, and a lot easier to apply. As you note, it's cheap, so worth a gamble.
I've got a 1st generation one and it's perfect.
Thanks so much Tom! It plays like a quiet dream now 🥰
I love Tele's and it was a pleasure to work on a guitar that didn't need everything fixed, you're welcome!
I still don't get shielding and adding an additional bridge ground on a tele
Bridge pup grounds via mounting screws thru the base plate. Neck pup is fully shielded and grounded. Control plate is metal and is essentially a ground plate.
Shielding the cavities and adding a separate ground to the bridge can create ground loops.
As far as creating a faraday cage, there is a gap in continuity between pickups and mounting surfaces. The bridge pup does not have a grounded shield.
So all that effort gives negligible results in stopping RFI.
Good wax potted pups and wiring the cap to the #3 lug and ground #2 lug on the tone pot (60's wiring) helps to limit RFI traveling all the way through the circuit.
Interesting thoughts but in the end I only added a tiny touch of shielding paint and it fixed it. The wiring otherwise was stock as far as I know....
The old boys didn't give a toss.
Hendrix & Townshend
Turned the vol off when not playing..
Nice job! Regarding shielding against mains hum on guitars, the term 'faraday cage' is in the ballpark but slightly misused by most of us and that included me before I was corrected and studied it a little deeper. Since the pickups almost always protrude outside the shielded body cavities they are also outside the boundary of the 'cage' and subject to interference. Can't avoid that unless you lower them below the boundary of the cage. But for me, good thorough shielding and proper ground continuity has always reduced the hum noise from rf interference. Next you have to learn how your single coil guitar pickups react to that in different playing positions and ranges with respect to your amp, leaky house wiring, flourescent lights etc. That's what I believe now but I'm always open to having my mind changed by folks who know more about it. Good show, just subscribed.
I have to try this. I have a beauiful Classic Vibe 60s Custom Telecaster that has upgraded hardware, including bridge, electronics, switch and pickups. It plays and sound great... but it is noisy. I have have been told by two luthiers that the noise is normal for single coils, but I have quite a few other single coil guitars, including an American Standard Telecaster and they're not noisy.
I really love this guitar but the electrical noise really ruins the experience for me. If I touchthe bridge plate the sound stops. Touching the strings help but there is still a bit of noise. But otherwise there is that constunt hum or however you describe it.
I have seen some Tele pickups (especially hot ones) that are prone to noise, but a hum that stops when you ground the bridge with your hand tends to be something with the grounding. I would check or even re-solder the grounds. Good luck!
great work dude! I need to get this donde to mine.
As it had a lot of gunk on it, I assumed this was the first generation Classic Vibe like mine. They had the brass saddles. Notice that these brass saddles are compensated so it must have been an upgrade. My classic vibe tele is pretty quiet, not quite Gibson humbucker quiet but it doesn't bother me.
Fine work
Why my cv when i turn up volume or i lower my volume my guitar get noisy sound
That sounds like there is dirt caught in the volume pot, get some Deoxit or other Electronics cleaner and flush it out.
My CV tele also appears to be shielded but there's no conductivity, it's just matte black paint.
The CV Tele in the video as it turns out had been upgraded about 7-8 years ago and the tech had applied shielding paint when he rewired and replaced the pickups. I thought it was stock when the owner brought it to me, though.
I couldnt catch the name of the cleaning product you used on the bridge. Thanks
Breakfree CLP, they sell it at sporting goods stores and I think I've seen it in the sporting goods section of Walmart
commonly used to clean guns....love the $hit....
Rock on 🤘
Looks quite light when you pick it up. I've seen/heard people mentioning that the pine bodies is quite heavy on the Classic Vibes. But it also looked like it had been used for some time. So if the wood have dried up a bit more, then it might've gotten lighter. Since it's heavily sealed, it wouldn't have taken in sweat or any other moist that easily. But doesn't that mean that moist will also have trouble evaporating out of it as well? Or is that exactly the difference? Vapor escapes more easily than solid water gets in?
Wood can take many years to dry, and the shrinking and checking on some of my older (20-30 year old) guitar's finishes helps confirm this. Basically avoiding high heat or sudden cooling by leaving an instrument in a car or in a an uninsulated space like a garage is your best defense against "fast" drying and shrinking which is damaging. If you're comfortable so is your guitar...
@@pawnshopguitarguy makes sense. Not too cool or too hot 😊
Splendid?!
.. I was hoping that you had 'shown' what kind of noise were you talking about, exactly .. ah never mind
I'll keep that in mind for next time, thanks for the comment!
Good video on how to. That repetitive music was psychotic after two minutes.
What size allen wrench please?
4mm for the truss rod and I think 1.5 on the saddles
I have the same issue with my guitar, how to you can help me with my ...? ,thanks, nice job.
See if this helps
I have a Sqire Telecaster like that one. The B string is LOUD If you accidentally hit it while soloing you can hear it across the street. Would you have any idea what would cause this? Thanks if you have an answer
Is it louder unplugged or just plugged in? If it's only when it's plugged in then it's probably something weird with the pickup. If it does it unplugged then I would look at the nut and /or saddles having something out of whack, either too low or improperly cut string grooves.
@@pawnshopguitarguy Just plugged in. Thaniks.
I'm assuming it's the bridge pickup and the b string pole piece has probably got too much magneticity - it might be fixable with a degausser like electronics techs used to use. Otherwise you might want to look at a pickup upgrade, which is really pretty easy and not too expensive on a Telecaster @@kaivrock
@@pawnshopguitarguy thank you!