Thank you for watching today's video! Make sure to subscribe and press the notification bell so you won't miss out on any future content. Here's a link to my playlist "Poison Dart Frog Care for Beginners", where I've compiled all of my best care guides that you might find helpful if you're new: www.tinyurl.com/DartFrogCareForBeginners Before any of you point it out, I'm aware that one of my Epipedobates anthonyi females has been losing weight recently and is too skinny. She's one of my original breeder animals, originating from a greenhouse where she was free roaming among hundreds of other frogs, so I don't know anything about that specific frog's age or background, but she has had her troubles in my care. It seems like she's on the right track at the moment and she has gained some weight since this footage was recorded, but if it gets any worse, I can assure you that I'll separate her from the rest of the group.
I started keeping poison dart frogs a few months ago with exactly this species and I love them. They are still a bit shy but they're getting bolder as they're growing.
It’s very likely that they’ll become bolder with time. Try to also be around the enclosure as much as possible, especially around feeding time. When I’ve had shy frogs, I’ve kept them a bit hungry (of course not to the point where it’s bad for them, but rather in the sense of not constantly having a ton of fruit flies in the vivarium at all times) and then stared at them for a while during feeding time. Eventually, they’ll stop caring about the fact that you’re standing there.
I have been keeping these for 8 years or so. I have found that they are pretty shy until they gain their adult coloration but once they color up it’s like a switch is flipped and they are really bold. Also any time you want to see them if none are out doing anything you can play a recording of a male calling and your males will come out and respond.
I bought a pair of Santa Isabels a few months ago and they are beautiful. If you work from home and have regular Zoom or Teams calls with colleagues and customers, make sure you are prepared for questions about your hobby because they will call so loud that everyone notices. Also, I have never kept a species where the froglets are that hardy right from the start. I just hope I can find enough buyers for my 30ish froglets because I have not lost a single one.
Good to hear that you're successful! I don't pull all the eggs/raise all the tadpoles from my Epipedobates anthonyi anymore, because I don't want to have to flood the market and dump the prices to get rid of them
I agree that they’re easy to keep because if I can keep them, anyone can 😂. I was quite intimidated when I first found out that I was going to be taking care of a group of 28 of them!! I had to learn a bit about these real quick, and there’s not that many videos on them, so, even though the video is a little late for me, I do thank you. These guys are surprisingly hardy and bold, and I’ve come to really enjoy them, although I would like to get a larger and more colorful species at some point. I have to say I love listening their sound, and it doesn’t bother me at all, but my daughter keeps a group of white’s tree frogs, so these dart frogs sound lot prettier than the white’s loud croaking. 😂
I started keeping dart frogs roughly a year and a half ago. E. anthonyi "Zarayunga" are ones I got later and they're about a year old. They laid their first clutch two weeks ago. All sixteen eggs were fertile, and have become tads. The male transported them to water yesterday. I'm so excited!
Im gonna try to mimic your entire set up as close to perfectly as I can, even the two frogs together! I love the combination of the two. I’m also going to have a water feature pond in about 1/8th of it so maybe my tadpoles can just grow up there 🤩
Sounds like an awesome idea! Good luck. They work well together, but keep an eye on the anthonyi males (if you have too many anthonyi males they might stress out the vittatus)
Thanks for the great video (and the many others)! I´m quite new in the hobby, but fully agree! I keep a 1,4 Group Santa Isabel for half a year now. They are very bold (I almost get worried, if I don´t see all of them for more than a day) don´t even hide, if I have to do some maintenance. And they really reproduce like crazy. They needed one month before I got the first eggs and an other until they survived, but since then I get at least 10 tadpoles per week. Only I´m still struggling a bit with raising them: I tried to keep first two clutches inside the terrarium. They ended up as a meal: (At least) one of my females jumps into the water and catches them! She learned this behavior, when some fruitflys were falling into the bowl and noticed then, that there are bigger "fish to fry"... I lost 14 (most were already quite big) in less then 24 hours. The next clutches were killed by my own stupidity: I used put the bowle on the south facing window at night to feed and watch them (their normal place is hard to reach and see) but forgot, to put it back again only ONCE. Of course this happened on the first really warm and sunny day in the year... When I came home from work it was to late. Now I have almost 40 tadpole in two different containers. The oldest are almost three weeks old now. If they all become froglets I might have to think, about getting a greenhouse...😂 But there is one thing I disagree with you: The call is lovely and I cannot hear it enough! Unfortunately there is only one guy but four girls, so he doesn´t have to call very long... If I hear him, I usually know, that I got new tadpoles. The rest of the time he is very quiet. But this might be different, with more males: He started right after I played this video (one of the female got nervous with the first call) and he is going like crazy since then! Looks, like I found his "ON"-switch now...😆
I love the call too, but when I had 5 or 6 males at one point I wanted to lower the intensity a bit. They call a lot more frequently when you have many of them; now that I only have two or three males they don’t call as much. Turning on a video of dart frogs calling on TH-cam always gets mine going and it’s great when you’re having guests over and want to show your frogs. Good luck with the tadpoles! They can be a bit sensitive for the first few weeks and they’ll need springtails once they’re small, but after that, it should be smooth sailing.
Love these little guys but i cant get them due to the noise, live with 3 other people and we all sleep too often during the day to have loud calling in our ears everyday 😢 one day, one day
What do you do with all the excess eggs? Am considering starting with these or terribilis but both apparently prolifically lay eggs. I don't have the space to grow out hundreds of frogs, so do people usually collect and dispose of them? Leave them be?
I leave them in the vivarium and let nature have it’s course (often times I don’t even find the eggs in the first place since I’ve removed the film canisters from my anthonyi vivarium)
It might be good to support feed them with some fish flakes every once in a while to avoid malnourished tadpoles, but aside from that, yes, the tadpoles of this species could definitely grow in the water feature of a vivarium.
hi, very informative video. i really like their call, how loud is it actually ? like can you hear them through walls/doors ? i dont want to annoy my roommates lol
I have my frog room on the second floor of my house, and I can easily hear them when I’m on the first floor, even with the door to my frog room shut. I actually sleep lessons than a meter away from their vivarium and I can easily sleep through their call in the mournings, but that’s certainly not the case for everyone.
@@dmedford5 You can hear them at weird times every now and then, but definately not too often. I sleep less than a meter away from them and I can easily sleep through their calls. It’s like if you live near a train track; after a while, you don’t even notice that the train runs past your house anymore
Two major problems with water features: - For the frogs, they’re completely useless, and take up a lot of room that the dart frogs won’t be able to utilize (they’re not the type of frogs that will go for a swim). E.g. If you have an 18x18x18 and half the ground area is a water feature, then for the frogs’s sake it’s technically only an 18x9x18 since they can’t utilize the water feature. - There are a lot of things that can go wrong with a water feature. The main thing is water saturating the substrate if it’s not set up correctly. If you’re a beginner and it’s your first dart frog vivarium, don’t even bother with a water feature, because there are already enough things that can go wrong. With that said, if I was forced to have a water feature with one of my frog species, I’d give it to my anthonyi, since they apparently tend to live fairly close to water and they actually put their tadpoles in together in larger water features. There’s nothing wrong with a small water feature in a big vivarium as long as it’s set up properly and there’s still enough land area left, but the water feature is only for your own sake and not for the frogs, and if you’re a beginner, I’d recommend skipping it.
I see three problems here: - Paludariums aren’t optimal for dart frogs as they won’t utilize a large water feature. In a huge vivarium, a small water feature is fine if they still have enough land area, but it’s still a complete waste of valuable floor space from the frogs’ perspective, so I wouldn’t do it if the vivarium was smaller than 36”x18” in floor space. If you make a mistake while setting up the water feature, there’s also a fairly big risk that you saturate the substrate creating a muddy swamp, which is a dangerous environment for the frogs to live in due to the risk for infections. - The crabs will eat the dart frogs. I know of two people who kept vampire crabs with dart frogs (Epipedobates and Ranitomeyas respectively) and both ended with the frogs being food. - I definitely wouldn’t put crickets in my vivariums voluntarily, as the risk for them munching on plants or even frogs is fairly large. A vivarium with one frog species (and a clean-up crew) is already an interesting enough challenge and if you’re a beginner, I highly recommend not mixing species. If you still want to do so, I’d consider darts with micro geckos (Gonatodes or mourning geckos) instead since it’s a lot safer
@@Tropical_Tutorialsthank you for your input ( I just saw your comment lol ) i’m currently setting up a vivarium (60/30/40cm) with water feature . How big you think I should make the water feature? I’m planning on getting a couple and hoping they will just use the water feature for their froglets . Thank you in advance
@@martinaccorsi927 Even without a water feature, that vivarium is barely large enough to permanently house any adult dart frogs at all, so I wouldn't do a water feature in it. You won't regret going for a bigger vivarium (regardless if you do a water feature or not). As I said, I definitely wouldn't recommend doing any water features in anything smaller than 90x45 cm or at least 60x45 cm floor space
Depends on which blue dart frogs you mean. If you mean D. tunctorius Azureus, then no, I'd not recommend it, because tinctorius are known to be very territorial and might bully their tank mates. However, Epipedobates anthonyi can typically be kept together with D. auratus (which there are some blue localities of) or D. leucomelas or some Phyllobates species. Mixing species isn't really recommended to beginners though and if you're new, I highly recommend that you start out with only one species per tank in the beginning. I have a video about mixing species on my channel where I go into it in more depth.
Like a week or two for me. Even my amazonica froglets take fruit flies right away, but these don’t. You can offer them earlier and see what happens as long as you have springtails too
@@Living_Ghetto_fab It could work but I wouldn’t count on it as their only food source when they’re that young. They sometimes find it tricky to eat the larvae and you obviously won’t be able to powder them
It’s as easy as not pulling the eggs out. If you don’t have a water feature in the tank, the tadpoles are very unlikely to survive and develop on their own in the vivarium
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Here's a link to my playlist "Poison Dart Frog Care for Beginners", where I've compiled all of my best care guides that you might find helpful if you're new:
www.tinyurl.com/DartFrogCareForBeginners
Before any of you point it out, I'm aware that one of my Epipedobates anthonyi females has been losing weight recently and is too skinny. She's one of my original breeder animals, originating from a greenhouse where she was free roaming among hundreds of other frogs, so I don't know anything about that specific frog's age or background, but she has had her troubles in my care. It seems like she's on the right track at the moment and she has gained some weight since this footage was recorded, but if it gets any worse, I can assure you that I'll separate her from the rest of the group.
I started keeping poison dart frogs a few months ago with exactly this species and I love them. They are still a bit shy but they're getting bolder as they're growing.
It’s very likely that they’ll become bolder with time. Try to also be around the enclosure as much as possible, especially around feeding time. When I’ve had shy frogs, I’ve kept them a bit hungry (of course not to the point where it’s bad for them, but rather in the sense of not constantly having a ton of fruit flies in the vivarium at all times) and then stared at them for a while during feeding time. Eventually, they’ll stop caring about the fact that you’re standing there.
I have been keeping these for 8 years or so. I have found that they are pretty shy until they gain their adult coloration but once they color up it’s like a switch is flipped and they are really bold. Also any time you want to see them if none are out doing anything you can play a recording of a male calling and your males will come out and respond.
I bought a pair of Santa Isabels a few months ago and they are beautiful. If you work from home and have regular Zoom or Teams calls with colleagues and customers, make sure you are prepared for questions about your hobby because they will call so loud that everyone notices. Also, I have never kept a species where the froglets are that hardy right from the start. I just hope I can find enough buyers for my 30ish froglets because I have not lost a single one.
Good to hear that you're successful! I don't pull all the eggs/raise all the tadpoles from my Epipedobates anthonyi anymore, because I don't want to have to flood the market and dump the prices to get rid of them
I agree that they’re easy to keep because if I can keep them, anyone can 😂. I was quite intimidated when I first found out that I was going to be taking care of a group of 28 of them!! I had to learn a bit about these real quick, and there’s not that many videos on them, so, even though the video is a little late for me, I do thank you. These guys are surprisingly hardy and bold, and I’ve come to really enjoy them, although I would like to get a larger and more colorful species at some point. I have to say I love listening their sound, and it doesn’t bother me at all, but my daughter keeps a group of white’s tree frogs, so these dart frogs sound lot prettier than the white’s loud croaking. 😂
I started keeping dart frogs roughly a year and a half ago. E. anthonyi "Zarayunga" are ones I got later and they're about a year old. They laid their first clutch two weeks ago. All sixteen eggs were fertile, and have become tads. The male transported them to water yesterday. I'm so excited!
Im gonna try to mimic your entire set up as close to perfectly as I can, even the two frogs together! I love the combination of the two. I’m also going to have a water feature pond in about 1/8th of it so maybe my tadpoles can just grow up there 🤩
Sounds like an awesome idea! Good luck. They work well together, but keep an eye on the anthonyi males (if you have too many anthonyi males they might stress out the vittatus)
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Thanks for the all the informative videos you do, they are great and appreciated.
Great species profile on a great species.
Thanks for the great video (and the many others)!
I´m quite new in the hobby, but fully agree!
I keep a 1,4 Group Santa Isabel for half a year now.
They are very bold (I almost get worried, if I don´t see all of them for more than a day) don´t even hide, if I have to do some maintenance.
And they really reproduce like crazy.
They needed one month before I got the first eggs and an other until they survived, but since then I get at least 10 tadpoles per week.
Only I´m still struggling a bit with raising them:
I tried to keep first two clutches inside the terrarium.
They ended up as a meal:
(At least) one of my females jumps into the water and catches them!
She learned this behavior, when some fruitflys were falling into the bowl and noticed then, that there are bigger "fish to fry"...
I lost 14 (most were already quite big) in less then 24 hours.
The next clutches were killed by my own stupidity:
I used put the bowle on the south facing window at night to feed and watch them (their normal place is hard to reach and see) but forgot, to put it back again only ONCE.
Of course this happened on the first really warm and sunny day in the year...
When I came home from work it was to late.
Now I have almost 40 tadpole in two different containers.
The oldest are almost three weeks old now.
If they all become froglets I might have to think, about getting a greenhouse...😂
But there is one thing I disagree with you:
The call is lovely and I cannot hear it enough!
Unfortunately there is only one guy but four girls, so he doesn´t have to call very long...
If I hear him, I usually know, that I got new tadpoles.
The rest of the time he is very quiet.
But this might be different, with more males:
He started right after I played this video (one of the female got nervous with the first call) and he is going like crazy since then!
Looks, like I found his "ON"-switch now...😆
I love the call too, but when I had 5 or 6 males at one point I wanted to lower the intensity a bit. They call a lot more frequently when you have many of them; now that I only have two or three males they don’t call as much. Turning on a video of dart frogs calling on TH-cam always gets mine going and it’s great when you’re having guests over and want to show your frogs.
Good luck with the tadpoles! They can be a bit sensitive for the first few weeks and they’ll need springtails once they’re small, but after that, it should be smooth sailing.
Need to see a plant tour in all your vivariums. New subbie here💯
I’ll definitely do it at some point, but I have a few other projects to finish first
Love these little guys but i cant get them due to the noise, live with 3 other people and we all sleep too often during the day to have loud calling in our ears everyday 😢 one day, one day
What do you do with all the excess eggs? Am considering starting with these or terribilis but both apparently prolifically lay eggs. I don't have the space to grow out hundreds of frogs, so do people usually collect and dispose of them? Leave them be?
I leave them in the vivarium and let nature have it’s course (often times I don’t even find the eggs in the first place since I’ve removed the film canisters from my anthonyi vivarium)
If you have a water feature and you leave the tadpoles in there will some grow into froglet in the terrarium?
It might be good to support feed them with some fish flakes every once in a while to avoid malnourished tadpoles, but aside from that, yes, the tadpoles of this species could definitely grow in the water feature of a vivarium.
thx ❤
Mines were the green and black aurautus far best the easiest animals I've raised imo and very very less maintenance.
hi, very informative video. i really like their call, how loud is it actually ? like can you hear them through walls/doors ? i dont want to annoy my roommates lol
I have my frog room on the second floor of my house, and I can easily hear them when I’m on the first floor, even with the door to my frog room shut.
I actually sleep lessons than a meter away from their vivarium and I can easily sleep through their call in the mournings, but that’s certainly not the case for everyone.
@@Tropical_Tutorials thank you for the awnser, ill stick to only my tinctorius. theyre almost too quiet sometimes
Do they call at night? I wanna get some but I dont wanna be up all night either! 😂
@@dmedford5 You can hear them at weird times every now and then, but definately not too often. I sleep less than a meter away from them and I can easily sleep through their calls. It’s like if you live near a train track; after a while, you don’t even notice that the train runs past your house anymore
@@Tropical_Tutorials Thanks!
Should be pretty easy to grab unrelated frogs then, which would make it easier to setup a breeding population.
What do you think of keeping them with a small pool or other water feature
Two major problems with water features:
- For the frogs, they’re completely useless, and take up a lot of room that the dart frogs won’t be able to utilize (they’re not the type of frogs that will go for a swim). E.g. If you have an 18x18x18 and half the ground area is a water feature, then for the frogs’s sake it’s technically only an 18x9x18 since they can’t utilize the water feature.
- There are a lot of things that can go wrong with a water feature. The main thing is water saturating the substrate if it’s not set up correctly. If you’re a beginner and it’s your first dart frog vivarium, don’t even bother with a water feature, because there are already enough things that can go wrong.
With that said, if I was forced to have a water feature with one of my frog species, I’d give it to my anthonyi, since they apparently tend to live fairly close to water and they actually put their tadpoles in together in larger water features.
There’s nothing wrong with a small water feature in a big vivarium as long as it’s set up properly and there’s still enough land area left, but the water feature is only for your own sake and not for the frogs, and if you’re a beginner, I’d recommend skipping it.
How do you see this species in a multi species paludarium with crabs, clean up crew, crickets and more ?
The goal is to provide food to the sistem and let them breed inside the paludarium
I see three problems here:
- Paludariums aren’t optimal for dart frogs as they won’t utilize a large water feature. In a huge vivarium, a small water feature is fine if they still have enough land area, but it’s still a complete waste of valuable floor space from the frogs’ perspective, so I wouldn’t do it if the vivarium was smaller than 36”x18” in floor space. If you make a mistake while setting up the water feature, there’s also a fairly big risk that you saturate the substrate creating a muddy swamp, which is a dangerous environment for the frogs to live in due to the risk for infections.
- The crabs will eat the dart frogs. I know of two people who kept vampire crabs with dart frogs (Epipedobates and Ranitomeyas respectively) and both ended with the frogs being food.
- I definitely wouldn’t put crickets in my vivariums voluntarily, as the risk for them munching on plants or even frogs is fairly large.
A vivarium with one frog species (and a clean-up crew) is already an interesting enough challenge and if you’re a beginner, I highly recommend not mixing species. If you still want to do so, I’d consider darts with micro geckos (Gonatodes or mourning geckos) instead since it’s a lot safer
@@Tropical_Tutorialsthank you for your input ( I just saw your comment lol ) i’m currently setting up a vivarium (60/30/40cm) with water feature . How big you think I should make the water feature? I’m planning on getting a couple and hoping they will just use the water feature for their froglets . Thank you in advance
I’m gonna leave my vampire crabs and mourning geckos out of the equation thanks to your suggestion .
@@martinaccorsi927 Even without a water feature, that vivarium is barely large enough to permanently house any adult dart frogs at all, so I wouldn't do a water feature in it. You won't regret going for a bigger vivarium (regardless if you do a water feature or not). As I said, I definitely wouldn't recommend doing any water features in anything smaller than 90x45 cm or at least 60x45 cm floor space
can they go with blue dart frogs?
Depends on which blue dart frogs you mean. If you mean D. tunctorius Azureus, then no, I'd not recommend it, because tinctorius are known to be very territorial and might bully their tank mates. However, Epipedobates anthonyi can typically be kept together with D. auratus (which there are some blue localities of) or D. leucomelas or some Phyllobates species. Mixing species isn't really recommended to beginners though and if you're new, I highly recommend that you start out with only one species per tank in the beginning. I have a video about mixing species on my channel where I go into it in more depth.
How long does it take the froglets to eat fruit flies?
Like a week or two for me. Even my amazonica froglets take fruit flies right away, but these don’t. You can offer them earlier and see what happens as long as you have springtails too
@@Tropical_Tutorials think I use a piece of banana and added a little fruit fly. Hoping they would be able to eat the larvae.
@@Living_Ghetto_fab It could work but I wouldn’t count on it as their only food source when they’re that young. They sometimes find it tricky to eat the larvae and you obviously won’t be able to powder them
What if I don't want any tadpoles??? Yikes
It’s as easy as not pulling the eggs out. If you don’t have a water feature in the tank, the tadpoles are very unlikely to survive and develop on their own in the vivarium
@@Tropical_Tutorials hmmm ok. Thanks for your message ❤️