In my experience, if buying a paintball gun used, just assume something's wrong with it regardless of what the seller says. Once in a while you get lucky and it's fine, but I've found most paintball players just don't know how or don't care to take care of their stuff. That said, if you're willing to put the work in, you can get some really good deals buying used, and the rebuild process teaches you a lot about how your marker works. I bought my DM12 on eBay and ended up replacing every piece of rubber in the thing (the seller said it had a "small leak" haha), but it's now probably my favorite marker.
Honestly this should be a pinned comment, because so many people buy paintball stuff based on money but especially with used gear you should have some money in reserve to fix problems as they arise. because as you said 9/10 used gear is going to have issues I mean hell I bought a Etek 4 LT and ended up replacing the board with a Virtue OLED board because the original crapped the bed
There will almost certainly be a problem with it. You're absolutely right, most players DO NOT take care of their gear like I do, or everyone should. I baby my gear and clean everything after every use once I get home.
Warning............PE solenoids are basically becoming non-existent for older(not so old) guns. When you can find them, they'll cost as much as you paid for the gun. Dye still provides parts for most of their older guns although NT parts and for some reason stock dm12/13 bolts are impossible to find. Everything is reasonably priced though. Smart parts........I'm not so sure about but I think between DLX and shocker you can usually find most of what you need. Bob long.......not too bad actually. Parts are still not too hard to find on really old guns and easy to find on the later but pre Field one guns. Empire.......no real problems there you can find anything you need as far as I know.
I’ve had my ego 9 for a little while now and it’s never broken a ball and I’ve put GI 5 star through it. I love it. I also constantly build shit and know my guns inside out.
I've owned and still use my dm5 and dm7 since they were each released. I'm happy to say that they have been the best! No problems. I have never felt the need to buy a new marker because they are just as good and can totally keep up with anything out now.
Those were the good ones... they are heavy gas hogs by modern standards and they drain the battery in storage, but they shoot just as good as modern guns.
@Dante Lara I know it's a month late, but I didn't want to leave you hanging. If you're looking for something lighter, with better air efficiency and no macro line? Then yeah, a newer marker is the way to go. But the shots are pretty much the same, although I will say that the shot on the DM4/5 is butter smooth! That's what got me to purchase my DM5 after using a teammates DM4.
I got Geo 2, bought used 2012, still kicks bottoms. You can always buy a IV core bolt for more efficient shooting with fragile paint. Spare parts are nightmare...
I found my Poison Ego 10 on eBay for $125 Canadian shipped. At the time it only had 5 cases through it. I've put another 6 or 7 cases through it with zero issues. The marker was in like new condition as well. Sometimes you get lucky.
geo first came out near the end of 2008 and it wasn't really popular as it had issues and some people have said the geo+ did as well but the geo+ is what gave the geo line its popularity
Great explanation on used gear. I decided to go the used and rebuilt option for my son just incase he isnt AS ENTHUSED as he thinks he will be to play. Just a cheap, older, and simple mechanical Spyder. It certainly helps to be mechanically inclined....
Bro i just bought all the parts i could for my 07 PMR! This is so ironic because im just getting back into it after 12 years and im refurbishing my old guns 1 because its fun and i love them
90% of my guns and gear are used. If you're new or just not sure what to look for talk to someone that knows to help you out, bc there is a lot of junk out there too. Met a lot if cool people at the field and we help each other out when buying stuff.
@@chasenicholson237 dye products in my expertise don't shoot as well without major tweaking 24/7 I had several dye products and would record them as a solid choice but reliability is key for me as well as ease of maintenance. Plus the ergonomics and overall design and build quality is hard to beat on the etha2
I’m just happy i bought an Etha 2a few months back, have no experience playing speedball and had nobody to ask to, and since it was lockdown at the time, no fields nor proshops were open. All the research was on my own with no actual way of feeling the marker i went for it. Glad it wasn’t a bad choice but the one I got tho may have a missing Solenoid body pin but i made a temporary fix using a barbecue stick and heat shrink tubing and grease.
I bought my dm6 last year for $190 on eBay and my geo 3 on auction 2 years ago for $300. I would tell players at the field that eBay is a good way to go sometimes. Just got to keep looking for them.
Ive had to sell my gear twice now because of job loss. My last job loss was about 4 yrs ago and i had to sell my axe pro. This go around i didnt want to spend 550 on a new marker so i picked up a luxe 2.0 oled ck for 400 to get my gear back up.. Did i screw up? Im an older player so i haven't kept up with the trends.
Used markers I've bought online never show up in exactly the condition described by the seller. When I first got back into the game and didn't know a poppet from a spool I bought a used Drone DX and had problems every time I took it to the field. I ended up trading the damn thing for pennies on the dollar I paid for it and bought an Etek5 brand new which has never given me problems. When buying used, go in with the expectation you WILL have problems.
If you know what to ask and look for it's really not an issue. My first gun was horrible since I didn't know any better. The other 5 used I got after were exactly what I expected.
I'd agree that you have to go in with the expectation that you'll have issues and have to do troubleshooting and maintenance with used guns. . . That being said, I'm also of the opinion that everyone should learn the ins and outs of their guns, regardless of whether it's new or used.
Man I just pulled out all my old gear from 97 to 2008 when I stopped. My 10yr old wants to try. My autococker and e-cocker were still lubed and I carefully checked my (left myself notes on each markers condition and book with settings) seals. Aired up with a new tank my Black Magic (replaced line anyway) and she worked. No leaks. Ran new paint......no chops on a halo b I stored in box. My son didn't love the grin I made when I grabbed my worn out gloves, slid out heavy pants, nppl event jersey. I hadn't even opened my big bins of markers, barrels, pods, orings and soooooo many parts. I got to rediscover something I buried . Old spyders, eagle talons, rainmaker, Bob long, smart parts ion, dyes,eclipse. I am going to see if I can get them all to work. My angel LCD feels like a brick. I know my tippman pro custom and 98 work. They can't dye 😂
When I first started playing once any my guns had some sort of problem I just took it to my local field. But I always asked to see if they could show me how to fix it. Now i can pretty much fix any problem with them now.
I understand why you should buy a newer modern gun, but would it really be that bad of an idea to get a Geo 3 for the same price as something like an axe 2.0 or Etha 2?
It's going to be more difficult to find circuit boards and solenoids for a geo 3. The etha 2 and axe 2.0 have better parts availability. For that reason alone I would go with something newer.
My first marker i got off ebay used. Was a cs1. From the seller, it was flawless, looked brand new. Once i got the upgraded parts, it was perfect. Ill be using it to paint some faces in about an hour. Same thing with my empire pump.
I have a Dm7 to be honest. It does shoot ropes, however the paintballs are smaller now and it roughly gets me 5 to 6 pods per game barely. And fields only filll up the tank to 2K psi its a hassle filling up your tank every game or buying barrels or tinkering with your gun to get a more efficient air consumption.
Used markers all day. You can find some gems and if you take the time you can learn how to take apart damn near any gun and it's very handy for maintenance and cleaning.
@@bongwaterbaptist because little 13 year olds always have to point out how old they are and what bad ass guns and gear they have when we know they didn't work for it
I just got a used tmc, two tanks, a Halo too, a Profiler, a pack with pods, and a remote line, all for like $220 or something on eBay. I'm shooting it tomorrow so fingers crossed.
Im looking at a 2002 bob long timmy i belive its a dragon model with a virtue board....its at a pb store. Its been totally gone thru, Guy at the store says only problem ill have is replacing the noid if it goes out.....btw im 58, been balling off and on since 2001. I have an 05 cocker, a pm8, and a reflex rail....but a timmie was a gun i never could afford back in the day....any thoughts on the timmy?
Id buy something else. Brand new the Etha 2 is $425 is much much better than any Intimidator. It might cost more up front but in the long run it will cost less and be much more reliable.
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife yea i hear ya, but the whole point was to have a good vintage gun, i got a reflex rail that is stupid fast and is almost never been used ..the pm8 is like new also...ive just always wanted a timmy...thanx for responding
I recently got back to paintball after being off for 5 years, i sold my old guns, for milsim I went for TMC and tipx, But i wanted to try out speedball, So I Added the Etha 2 in my arsenal, was it a good choice?
DM8's (or all DM's for that matter) are actually very gentle on paint. That's what the LPR is for, to adjust how soft or hard you want your shot. I've owned DM's since 2007 and they are still some of the most gentle markers with paint. Also, parts for older markers, for the most part, are not as expensive as Brad makes them to be. If you look around (eBay, PbNation, Facebook groups, ect.) you can find practically anything you need for not that expensive. Price for parts depend on the marker.
Same story here, bought an autococker in 98 and that thing was always going down when I was playing with by buddies in the woods. They all had automags. In hindsight, I should have went with the mag and actually played instead of sitting there watching games while hopelessly tinkering with that pos lol
I had like 3 autocockers when I started playing at 12 and they were always breaking. I just wanted the coolest gun. Spent more time and money on the bench than I ever did playing. Then I converted them to pump and life was never the same.
Buying a new dye czr or etha 3 is a better choice than buying any gun that is older than 7+ yrs old . The new gun is just gonna work everytime you want to play and that's all that matters
When buying a used marker assume you'll be spending another $50 to fix it and Stay away from Smart Parts. They shoot great and the private label shockers are absolutely beautiful but the build quality is horrible. Egos and PMs/DMs are the way to go for used markers
I tend to agree that newer is better. There's one piece of bad news though, which is that many of the big companies these days only stock parts for a little bit then it gets swept under the rug. Empire doesn't have everything available for their pre-2011 markers, same goes for Eclipse (though maybe worse since they have sooooo many competing markers all using different items). So as time continues, even the big companies don't support their own items. There's some older markers that are really simple, but getting them now is just a nostalgia thing. Regardless, new items are probably best for quality reasons if nothing else. It just irks me that people complain about not being able to repair their marker but don't vote with their wallet :(
#PBQT What kind of upgrades should I be considering on high end guns? I currently have a CS2 and thought about upgrading the barrel to have more ball size options. Is this a good idea?
Modern high end markers don't need any upgrades. Maybe you could pick up an extra barrel back or two so you can get a good underbore and overbore, but even that wont make a huge difference in how it performs
pfe quest!? if you are referring to the FEP Quest it is still to this day one of my favorite spool guns and in fact my main go-to marker. parts for them are just hard to come across nowadays
Hey @paintballruinedmylife I’m just getting back into the sport and I love your vids. I just bought an Etha 2 because it’s universally considered the best bang for your buck performance but now I’m seeing the old guns I used to covet (ego9 dm9) for 300-600 used. Did I mess up? What would you think the performance comparison between older high end guns vs modern mid tier?
If your ethanol breaks and that's a big if it will be easy and cheap to fix. Worst case you send it to planet eclipse to get fixed and they have excellent customer service. With an old Dm or ego you could spend weeks looking for a replacement part just to end up buying that part used and it still not working. In terms of performance the etha 2 is gamma core so it shoots just as well as current high end PE guns
Minimum BPS on the GS/Axe board was 8.0bps, back when the mini’s were still under invert (shockwave board I believe) they would only go to 10.5 minimum
#pbqt will PE ever release a mech grip frame for the etha 2??? I have an etha 2 and would love a mech frame for it rather than having to buy an Emek... It works for the 170r so.... Why not the etha 2?
i don't know if it's accurate to say a gun like a DM8 or Geo 2 can't handle fragile paint. I mean they're high end guns. They were MADE to handle high-end tournament paint. I don't think paint has changed THAT much in the last 10-15 years, besides being a bit smaller in bore size then it used to be. Can you honestly say that All-Star, Marbalizer, Evil paint, and other high end paint from back in the day is much different than tournament grade paint today? I think they can handle it just fine. It's the operating pressure I believe that makes the difference on what kind of paint a marker can handle, and those guns run at quite a low pressure just like the guns today. Hell, I could put tournament paint into a Spyder or Tippmann running 600-800 psi and it would shoot. I mean yeah you would get some chops/barrel breaks but I feel like in a DM8 or Geo it would be totally fine
Google says paintball guns are so expensive because they are nor just prices of metal that shoot balls. But they are. Legit 🤣 they arw only expensive because people buy em. If we stop, theyll have to drop!
Never in my life i heard about brocken solenoid in Dye gun compared to old Eclipse none servicable Solenoids out of plastic that i had to replace many times by servicing none working guns, up untill CS 1 came out, whitch has the same or nearly the solenoid as Dye DMs, wonder why 🤣 and the older PE noids are rare now here in Germany and cost more than duble the price of Dye noid (60€ for Dye and about 170€ for PE noid) And i have to disagree that DM8 (one of my guns that i own) cant shoot ultra high end paint, it can shoot everything if you can tune it right. And last, i am not fan of Dye or PE but PE is not the best like you said, it just hyped like Apple Iphone, dont get me wrong they are very good guns but only starting with CS or Gtek models, so if you realy want Planet Eclipse gun i can recomend only starting from CS1.5, every model of Getek, or new Geo 4 and LV 1.6
I'll take the old stuff all day everyday and it's not about being cost effective. The new stuff is all ugly. Yesh Im that 50 deisel mechanic/machinist guy he talks about lmao. Non working is what I look for
In my experience, if buying a paintball gun used, just assume something's wrong with it regardless of what the seller says. Once in a while you get lucky and it's fine, but I've found most paintball players just don't know how or don't care to take care of their stuff. That said, if you're willing to put the work in, you can get some really good deals buying used, and the rebuild process teaches you a lot about how your marker works. I bought my DM12 on eBay and ended up replacing every piece of rubber in the thing (the seller said it had a "small leak" haha), but it's now probably my favorite marker.
Honestly this should be a pinned comment, because so many people buy paintball stuff based on money but especially with used gear you should have some money in reserve to fix problems as they arise. because as you said 9/10 used gear is going to have issues I mean hell I bought a Etek 4 LT and ended up replacing the board with a Virtue OLED board because the original crapped the bed
There will almost certainly be a problem with it. You're absolutely right, most players DO NOT take care of their gear like I do, or everyone should. I baby my gear and clean everything after every use once I get home.
I like the questions being on completely different topics. Keep's it fresh.
Warning............PE solenoids are basically becoming non-existent for older(not so old) guns. When you can find them, they'll cost as much as you paid for the gun. Dye still provides parts for most of their older guns although NT parts and for some reason stock dm12/13 bolts are impossible to find. Everything is reasonably priced though. Smart parts........I'm not so sure about but I think between DLX and shocker you can usually find most of what you need. Bob long.......not too bad actually. Parts are still not too hard to find on really old guns and easy to find on the later but pre Field one guns. Empire.......no real problems there you can find anything you need as far as I know.
I’ve had my ego 9 for a little while now and it’s never broken a ball and I’ve put GI 5 star through it. I love it. I also constantly build shit and know my guns inside out.
Cool story ; )
Man, that thumbnail gave me the feels... miss my old DM8
That's a dm9 in the thumbnail lol. Best gun I ever had.
I've owned and still use my dm5 and dm7 since they were each released. I'm happy to say that they have been the best! No problems. I have never felt the need to buy a new marker because they are just as good and can totally keep up with anything out now.
Those were the good ones... they are heavy gas hogs by modern standards and they drain the battery in storage, but they shoot just as good as modern guns.
I was about to spend $1000 on a new marker. I have a dm7 and dm4 but its been a decade lol. How would you compare it to the newer ones?
@Dante Lara I know it's a month late, but I didn't want to leave you hanging. If you're looking for something lighter, with better air efficiency and no macro line? Then yeah, a newer marker is the way to go. But the shots are pretty much the same, although I will say that the shot on the DM4/5 is butter smooth! That's what got me to purchase my DM5 after using a teammates DM4.
ICD for LIFE!
Keeping my Proto PM8 for ever.
Ego 11 here
Do it still wish I had my pm6...
I got Geo 2, bought used 2012, still kicks bottoms. You can always buy a IV core bolt for more efficient shooting with fragile paint. Spare parts are nightmare...
I found my Poison Ego 10 on eBay for $125 Canadian shipped. At the time it only had 5 cases through it. I've put another 6 or 7 cases through it with zero issues.
The marker was in like new condition as well. Sometimes you get lucky.
Got a like new cotton candy 2011 ego for $300, wish I would have kept it!
geo first came out near the end of 2008 and it wasn't really popular as it had issues and some people have said the geo+ did as well but the geo+ is what gave the geo line its popularity
Great explanation on used gear. I decided to go the used and rebuilt option for my son just incase he isnt AS ENTHUSED as he thinks he will be to play. Just a cheap, older, and simple mechanical Spyder. It certainly helps to be mechanically inclined....
Spiders are a nightmare lol even when they work right they still feel broken
Bro i just bought all the parts i could for my 07 PMR! This is so ironic because im just getting back into it after 12 years and im refurbishing my old guns 1 because its fun and i love them
Still use my DM9 all these years later. Heck, i still shoot my Automag all these years later, too.
Just got a dm9 used for 250 and it shoots ropes. Great gun still
90% of my guns and gear are used. If you're new or just not sure what to look for talk to someone that knows to help you out, bc there is a lot of junk out there too. Met a lot if cool people at the field and we help each other out when buying stuff.
Buy an Etha2 and this solves all problems
Etha2 is the best..I got vids on My page
Love my etha2
Except I bought an Etha 2 and then a dye dm9 for 250 and it shoots noticing better and quieter. I think the used market could be it bro
@@chasenicholson237 dye products in my expertise don't shoot as well without major tweaking 24/7 I had several dye products and would record them as a solid choice but reliability is key for me as well as ease of maintenance. Plus the ergonomics and overall design and build quality is hard to beat on the etha2
I’m just happy i bought an Etha 2a few months back, have no experience playing speedball and had nobody to ask to, and since it was lockdown at the time, no fields nor proshops were open. All the research was on my own with no actual way of feeling the marker i went for it. Glad it wasn’t a bad choice but the one I got tho may have a missing Solenoid body pin but i made a temporary fix using a barbecue stick and heat shrink tubing and grease.
I think you were trying to say FEP Quest. Its a really solid marker but the parts for them are pretty scarce.
I bought my dm6 last year for $190 on eBay and my geo 3 on auction 2 years ago for $300. I would tell players at the field that eBay is a good way to go sometimes. Just got to keep looking for them.
Remember Angels? LOL (I have an 05 or 07? Dark Angel LCD sitting around in a box somewhere)
Dude I rock an angel a1 to this day. Picked it up for 180 bucks.
I love my old guns
Franco Baggage want to sell? Lol
My favorite guns of all the markers that went through my hands were a 2k1 dark LCD and an Eclipse LED. They always worked, period.
Ive had to sell my gear twice now because of job loss. My last job loss was about 4 yrs ago and i had to sell my axe pro. This go around i didnt want to spend 550 on a new marker so i picked up a luxe 2.0 oled ck for 400 to get my gear back up.. Did i screw up? Im an older player so i haven't kept up with the trends.
Used markers I've bought online never show up in exactly the condition described by the seller. When I first got back into the game and didn't know a poppet from a spool I bought a used Drone DX and had problems every time I took it to the field. I ended up trading the damn thing for pennies on the dollar I paid for it and bought an Etek5 brand new which has never given me problems.
When buying used, go in with the expectation you WILL have problems.
If you know what to ask and look for it's really not an issue. My first gun was horrible since I didn't know any better. The other 5 used I got after were exactly what I expected.
I'd agree that you have to go in with the expectation that you'll have issues and have to do troubleshooting and maintenance with used guns. . . That being said, I'm also of the opinion that everyone should learn the ins and outs of their guns, regardless of whether it's new or used.
That's why I only buy used guns described as mint or like new.
Man I just pulled out all my old gear from 97 to 2008 when I stopped. My 10yr old wants to try.
My autococker and e-cocker were still lubed and I carefully checked my (left myself notes on each markers condition and book with settings) seals. Aired up with a new tank my Black Magic (replaced line anyway) and she worked. No leaks. Ran new paint......no chops on a halo b I stored in box.
My son didn't love the grin I made when I grabbed my worn out gloves, slid out heavy pants, nppl event jersey. I hadn't even opened my big bins of markers, barrels, pods, orings and soooooo many parts.
I got to rediscover something I buried . Old spyders, eagle talons, rainmaker, Bob long, smart parts ion, dyes,eclipse. I am going to see if I can get them all to work. My angel LCD feels like a brick.
I know my tippman pro custom and 98 work. They can't dye 😂
When I first started playing once any my guns had some sort of problem I just took it to my local field. But I always asked to see if they could show me how to fix it. Now i can pretty much fix any problem with them now.
I understand why you should buy a newer modern gun, but would it really be that bad of an idea to get a Geo 3 for the same price as something like an axe 2.0 or Etha 2?
It's going to be more difficult to find circuit boards and solenoids for a geo 3. The etha 2 and axe 2.0 have better parts availability. For that reason alone I would go with something newer.
My first marker i got off ebay used. Was a cs1. From the seller, it was flawless, looked brand new. Once i got the upgraded parts, it was perfect. Ill be using it to paint some faces in about an hour. Same thing with my empire pump.
I have a Dm7 to be honest. It does shoot ropes, however the paintballs are smaller now and it roughly gets me 5 to 6 pods per game barely. And fields only filll up the tank to 2K psi its a hassle filling up your tank every game or buying barrels or tinkering with your gun to get a more efficient air consumption.
I think the older guns still look better. Like the dm12 or the dp rev-i or the older geo's
I agree, almost any gun from around 08-14 looks great
Used Eclipse guns command high prices because they are stupid reliable and pretty safe buys even after years.
I’m gonna buy a used Etek 5 do you think it’s a safe buy?
I'm still rocking an FEP quest! I love it haha and I'm not changing!
Used markers all day. You can find some gems and if you take the time you can learn how to take apart damn near any gun and it's very handy for maintenance and cleaning.
I bought a use... still working. Just have to clean after shoot. Take good care of it
I’m 13 and I know how to maintenance my etha and gtek really easily
lol oh yeah, the guns mommy bought for you?
@@kingoflowendpaintball1040 why you going at his neck like that?
@@bongwaterbaptist because little 13 year olds always have to point out how old they are and what bad ass guns and gear they have when we know they didn't work for it
@@kingoflowendpaintball1040 u mad yo broke ass still uses a Halo loader?
PBQT is my favorite!!!
I just got a used tmc, two tanks, a Halo too, a Profiler, a pack with pods, and a remote line, all for like $220 or something on eBay. I'm shooting it tomorrow so fingers crossed.
Nice! Love the TMC.
Im looking at a 2002 bob long timmy i belive its a dragon model with a virtue board....its at a pb store. Its been totally gone thru,
Guy at the store says only problem ill have is replacing the noid if it goes out.....btw im 58, been balling off and on since 2001. I have an 05 cocker, a pm8, and a reflex rail....but a timmie was a gun i never could afford back in the day....any thoughts on the timmy?
Id buy something else. Brand new the Etha 2 is $425 is much much better than any Intimidator. It might cost more up front but in the long run it will cost less and be much more reliable.
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife yea i hear ya, but the whole point was to have a good vintage gun, i got a reflex rail that is stupid fast and is almost never been used ..the pm8 is like new also...ive just always wanted a timmy...thanx for responding
I always end the day with my 2k5 alias. It's a bit heavier than new markers, but the styling on timmies are second to none and shoots just as well.
Best channel for PB
I loved my autococker at 15 16
The original Geo was 2009, brother
I recently got back to paintball after being off for 5 years, i sold my old guns, for milsim I went for TMC and tipx, But i wanted to try out speedball, So I Added the Etha 2 in my arsenal, was it a good choice?
All them good to go.
Why even ask that question you already bought the damn thing get out there and play
DM8's (or all DM's for that matter) are actually very gentle on paint. That's what the LPR is for, to adjust how soft or hard you want your shot. I've owned DM's since 2007 and they are still some of the most gentle markers with paint.
Also, parts for older markers, for the most part, are not as expensive as Brad makes them to be. If you look around (eBay, PbNation, Facebook groups, ect.) you can find practically anything you need for not that expensive. Price for parts depend on the marker.
People forget how fragile old Evil or Chronic paint was.
The LPR is certainly not for adjusting how hard or soft you want your shot. Lol and solenoids are always expensive.
Same story here, bought an autococker in 98 and that thing was always going down when I was playing with by buddies in the woods. They all had automags. In hindsight, I should have went with the mag and actually played instead of sitting there watching games while hopelessly tinkering with that pos lol
I had like 3 autocockers when I started playing at 12 and they were always breaking. I just wanted the coolest gun. Spent more time and money on the bench than I ever did playing. Then I converted them to pump and life was never the same.
My first gun got about 3 years ago Shocker next this is due to my dad having mainly used shocker sft's and nxt's good marker though
Buying a new dye czr or etha 3 is a better choice than buying any gun that is older than 7+ yrs old . The new gun is just gonna work everytime you want to play and that's all that matters
When buying a used marker assume you'll be spending another $50 to fix it and Stay away from Smart Parts. They shoot great and the private label shockers are absolutely beautiful but the build quality is horrible. Egos and PMs/DMs are the way to go for used markers
How do you travel with your gear like do you have to drive everywhere or do you ship it or is there acceptionss at the airport idk of
I decided on a geo 4 since they are sick
Dye makes legacy parts for the older guns.
I tend to agree that newer is better. There's one piece of bad news though, which is that many of the big companies these days only stock parts for a little bit then it gets swept under the rug. Empire doesn't have everything available for their pre-2011 markers, same goes for Eclipse (though maybe worse since they have sooooo many competing markers all using different items). So as time continues, even the big companies don't support their own items.
There's some older markers that are really simple, but getting them now is just a nostalgia thing.
Regardless, new items are probably best for quality reasons if nothing else. It just irks me that people complain about not being able to repair their marker but don't vote with their wallet :(
#PBQT Which o-rings do you grease and lube up? Or is it not even o-rings you grease?
#PBQT What kind of upgrades should I be considering on high end guns? I currently have a CS2 and thought about upgrading the barrel to have more ball size options. Is this a good idea?
Modern high end markers don't need any upgrades. Maybe you could pick up an extra barrel back or two so you can get a good underbore and overbore, but even that wont make a huge difference in how it performs
What are some good places to look for used paintball guns?
mazenspb and trademygun are two places Id trust
Pm8 UL .. It's my go to
pfe quest!? if you are referring to the FEP Quest it is still to this day one of my favorite spool guns and in fact my main go-to marker. parts for them are just hard to come across nowadays
#PBQT Do you think that the NXL would ever consider trying to get a sponsorship deal with an energy drink company ie. Redbull or Monster etc.?
#PBQT I’ve been playing paintball for a long time and thinking about looking for teams or clubs where do you think I could find one?
Local fields
bro i literally bought an auto cocker at 16, dumbest gun purchase ever. i had no idea what i was doing
Hey @paintballruinedmylife I’m just getting back into the sport and I love your vids. I just bought an Etha 2 because it’s universally considered the best bang for your buck performance but now I’m seeing the old guns I used to covet (ego9 dm9) for 300-600 used. Did I mess up? What would you think the performance comparison between older high end guns vs modern mid tier?
If your ethanol breaks and that's a big if it will be easy and cheap to fix. Worst case you send it to planet eclipse to get fixed and they have excellent customer service. With an old Dm or ego you could spend weeks looking for a replacement part just to end up buying that part used and it still not working. In terms of performance the etha 2 is gamma core so it shoots just as well as current high end PE guns
#PBQT A friend is giving me an old (10+ years) autococker. I don’t know anything about autocockers. Anything important I need to know?
LOL - gosh, I'd love to know how this panned out...
Can u cap a mini gs at 5.5 bps for mechanical tournament can’t find a video on how
I don't think so, I dont think the BPS will go that low.
Minimum BPS on the GS/Axe board was 8.0bps, back when the mini’s were still under invert (shockwave board I believe) they would only go to 10.5 minimum
Hey don't talk shit about my FEP Quest that shit shoots so smooth
#pbqt
will PE ever release a mech grip frame for the etha 2???
I have an etha 2 and would love a mech frame for it rather than having to buy an Emek... It works for the 170r so.... Why not the etha 2?
I have an Etha 2. I picked up a used Emek for $100. Couldn't get a grip frame that cheap.
@@TheMrManPretty that'd be nice to find one that cheap. I've been looking but no luck!
Thoughts on the JT impulse?
lol did u ever get one?
idk new or old guns you will have to work on them at some point,
i don't know if it's accurate to say a gun like a DM8 or Geo 2 can't handle fragile paint. I mean they're high end guns. They were MADE to handle high-end tournament paint. I don't think paint has changed THAT much in the last 10-15 years, besides being a bit smaller in bore size then it used to be. Can you honestly say that All-Star, Marbalizer, Evil paint, and other high end paint from back in the day is much different than tournament grade paint today? I think they can handle it just fine. It's the operating pressure I believe that makes the difference on what kind of paint a marker can handle, and those guns run at quite a low pressure just like the guns today. Hell, I could put tournament paint into a Spyder or Tippmann running 600-800 psi and it would shoot. I mean yeah you would get some chops/barrel breaks but I feel like in a DM8 or Geo it would be totally fine
I don't know how the paintball companies are going to top the guns they have out now
Tercero?
I've had no problem with my etek 3 chopping paint at all and I typically run hk army tournament paint soooo
Looks like I'm wrong I'll delete the video now sooooo
@@PaintballRuinedMyLife you have 15 minutes
Paintball Ruined My Life anecdotal evidence is fact, you haven’t heard?!
#pbqt should fields lower there paint prices I play a lot and I’m only 12 years old who don’t have the money to be paying 80 bucks a box
Meanwhile me with my angel LCD and angel speed that I'm putting together from the ground and still new to paint ball
Angels always seemed Iike they had issues, and not the best support. My 1st crush though.
if you are a collector. buy it and fix it, if you are a player buy a new marker.
Uhhh older guns are often great on super brittle paint. So yeah, you wrong.
They should just have a website where it’s just used paintball guns.
they do check out trademygun.com or mazenspb.com
Facebook paintball bst's or pbnation.com forums.
just get a automag they are industructuble
Google says paintball guns are so expensive because they are nor just prices of metal that shoot balls. But they are. Legit 🤣 they arw only expensive because people buy em. If we stop, theyll have to drop!
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Never in my life i heard about brocken solenoid in Dye gun compared to old Eclipse none servicable Solenoids out of plastic that i had to replace many times by servicing none working guns, up untill CS 1 came out, whitch has the same or nearly the solenoid as Dye DMs, wonder why 🤣 and the older PE noids are rare now here in Germany and cost more than duble the price of Dye noid (60€ for Dye and about 170€ for PE noid) And i have to disagree that DM8 (one of my guns that i own) cant shoot ultra high end paint, it can shoot everything if you can tune it right. And last, i am not fan of Dye or PE but PE is not the best like you said, it just hyped like Apple Iphone, dont get me wrong they are very good guns but only starting with CS or Gtek models, so if you realy want Planet Eclipse gun i can recomend only starting from CS1.5, every model of Getek, or new Geo 4 and LV 1.6
I felt called out on the 15(16) year old kid
Anyone have a gun to sell? I'm willing to buy something cuz I can't play with me etek4 anymore,i need something better. I'm willing to pay 450$!!!
He kinda looks like a slightly older and skinnier Johnny Sins
Bob Long's are much better than Planet Eclipse
I'll take the old stuff all day everyday and it's not about being cost effective. The new stuff is all ugly. Yesh Im that 50 deisel mechanic/machinist guy he talks about lmao. Non working is what I look for
Fifth?
4th
Please send this video back to 1997 so I decide not to buy my Autococker.
Second?
Again this dude is so anti dye it hurts 🤣 just say this is Brad with planet eclipse everything else sucks( 🔨🔧⛏️🛠️ )
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