An insane number of changes... what are your first reactions to it all? I will be going LIVE with the PTS tomorrow at 8:30AM Pacific/11:30AM Eastern 🔥 Hope to see you there!
Don't get me wrong but wouldn't be nice if devs added new gear set items as high-end i always appreciated new cosmetics but new mechanics are boring we don't need complexity we just need new content in new york . Ps: i will still use striker no matter what lol
Actually the change needed is stash size, the space is just not enough to collect all the gear sets or named/ exotic items, even one for each. Since they introduce more items every season, and do buff/ nerfs for encouraging more builds, the space matters...
@@questionmark05not anymore once they nerf it smh. They just need to keep the buffs but remove the nerfs. They need to leave those guns and gears alone and just buff the ones they wanna buff out
Had a little heart attack when i saw the strikers nerf, but it's only the backpack and I already sacrifice that slot for a memento. Still pissed about the Elmo nerf.
Nerfing things to promote the use of other items is the dumbest argument I swear. Just don’t use the things you think are OP, you don’t need the devs removing these options from the game. When I play COD I don’t use meta guns, I use what I think is fun.
What you said makes sense for me, since I’m primary PVE, but I understand it for those who are in competitive play. you don’t only want to be limited to the same 4 weapon loadouts and gear sets as everyone else, in order simply to compete. Multiple seasons of the same meta can get old, so I can see why they do what they do; granted unlike you and I (just playing for fun) many are real sweats and make it a big deal to win by any means
First thing: Very excited about automatic rifles. Definitely will take my lightweight m4 for a spin to remind myself of division 1 days. Very excited for the new exotic too. Time we had some love for the FAL. Second thing: I know i will hurt my fingers using scorpio now. Because of all the taps and reloads. Same thing with ouroboros. It will be just spamming the R key as they reduced the number of rounds. That gun already depleted its ammo very quickly.
Do they not realize that when they nerf something like this, all that accomplishes is to ensure basically no one will use it, thus making it pointless to even have in the game?
@@paulocarvalho1982 The thing that perplexes me to this day is that, when they first started talking about Division 2 and why they were doing a new game instead of continuing to support Div 1, was that they needed to do a new game from the ground up so they could balance PvE and PvP separately. That at least made sense. But since Div 2 came out, they've done very little of that, and they still balance PvE based on PvP. PvE is cooperative, so why does it matter if Striker or the MP7 or whatever is powerful? Balance it differently for PvP, fine, I couldn't care less. But PvE? Why? It just shows that one of the main stated reasons for doing Div 2 in the first place was ultimately pointless.
@MatthiasPowerbomb it's a whole other team working on Div 2 than what we had making the game. That team got pulled to other projects, and Ubi Bucharest took over and had a *huge* learning curve to boot. For their small numbers, and small funding from mama Ubi, they do at least deserve some credit.
I don't quite get the changes to the Scorpio, the increase in shots required for each debuff doesn't work since the gun only has 8 shells before a reload
Scorpio debuff does not end just because you reload. The debuff is still working, they just force you to reload before you can apply the 20% all incoming dmg buff for your team. Unless you get some +mag size with your gear, but probably not a stat that's really worth going for unless in certain builds. Alternativly 2 people could use Scorpio since the debuff stacks together, but I am not sure about that.
This is not a balance this is horrible for anyone with all the gear in the game. This is to clearly stop the player from doing damage. This will possibly drive most veteran players away from the game. None asked for this update.
@Scallaix that's actually what I'm running for a make shift lonestar build. Just to get a little closer to what lonestar does, I'm running steady handed for the auto reload
Next season will have all backpack talents change to ‘doom’ talent where everything dies as you walk in the room. If you run into the room it also fills your cache capacity with exotics.
The bighorn is already op and that’s from somebody who uses it 247 and it doesn’t make sense to buff it even more. Glad the ouroboros finally gets a nerf it’s going to be more fun in PvP again with that gun not plaguing the game
The problem is lack of new content. We just had a lackluster season with nothing new which caused a ton of players to stop playing & their solution is to nerf the most popular gear and guns that we've spent months grinding to upgrade. Make it make sense. Clown dev team 🤡
Typical massive. Puts to high of emphasis on expertise, makes us grind out to upgrade to realize the game isn't balanced to their liking. They're so afraid of what happened to end game of div 1 or understanding we're playing outdated tech to begin with! At some point it has to break in order for u to make a new one or you just micromanage or core fan base away
everyone that’s been playing the game through the recent seasons is either mad or has mixed feelings about this meanwhile i haven’t played in a year and this list of massive patch notes has me extremely interested and makes me bound to return
That new Exotic. Negotiators Dilemma or Hunter's Fury might be the play. As for any of the major changes, I have a Measured SMG Ongoing Directive build. That's getting a very notable buff. Measured Vector fired like a damn autocannon during the Guardians Global Event.
Really happy with many of the changes here. I decided to try and get back into div 2 ahead of the eventual dlc. I’m happy with the bighorn change as it’s my primary PvP gun, but I hate it in pve. Even in pvp when you’re against guns like Elmo, oroboro, iron long with its fire, it can feel a little bit pointless to build for headshots.
You know, I might have to get into the division again. The Striga might do wonders with the armor set, with being able to debuff every thing and then going close with a back up smg. You could also really try Ravenous again, because I think its one of the rifles becoming full auto. I might have to give Space Marines 2 and get back on the division grind!
The rav is gonna be very strong now especially with aces. Bit sad for the MP7 just when it started to get some much needed love. The M870 going up seems weird. Might see more versatile builds in PvP. Oroborous nerf was needed. It's just silly. I've been saying forever they needed to buff weapon mods above everything else especially since Elmos came out. So glad to see that. That will make a huge difference to builds especially if they buff crit chance/damage a few percent and provide a more substantial increase on stability. I'm really happy for the HB buff. It's my favourite set by far. So maybe I'll jump back in for a bit. I think they might regret this one now though as heartbreaker is already crazy strong. Did you mention True Patriot? If any set needs a buff it's that. I could've missed it though.
@@RogueGold I think they won't touch the true patriot set for a long while. I am sure they still have ptsd from when it was running rampant in the dark zone in the early years. What I am sad about the most is that the ACR is still getting shafted while not having any redeeming qualities to its name after 6 years the game has been out, meanwhile the famas gets buffed.
How the hell did the devs look at the helldivers 2 fiasco and decide; “Y’know what division 2 needs? Nerfs” Edit; to clarify I’m really only bummed on strikers being nerfed because if they really wanted people to use other gear sets or brands they would buff the weaker ones to be optimal. I completely agree on the Oro nerf as that smg is brutal in PvP. I don’t really see Oro being used in PvE that much tbh.
yup picaro's holster did not deserve that nerf i lost 5 WHOLE percent of my damage for what? so that i would consider tripping myself with some defective pruduct i want to live not to die because the gear systeam is ducked
5??? More like 20. It was doomed from the start. OG PH came with 20% weapon damage, got reduced to 15 with the intent to be able to roll 15 as a core attribute. Noticing their blunder they claim it can't be rolled as a core because its a minor and would require rework of the whole attribute system. Now look, its getting nerfed yet again.
I dont think its worth nerfing the ouroboros. The main defining attribute of the weapon is its insane rpm. Nerfing said attribute will put it on par with similar smgs like the vector and make it generic. Combined it with the ammo nerf, it is slightly more than a vector with a extended mag, which defeats the purpose of it being a unique weapon for the Paradise lost incursion. If they go through with this, people are going to stop grinding the incursion as they can just farm and use a vector and get higher dps due to its higher base damage than the ouroboros. Really hope that this don't come to pass.
It’s pretty obvious that the mods getting buffed are the mods no one ever uses and with a few nerfs here and a few nerfs there, crit builds will suffer. I get that they kinda sorta wanna move the meta along, but whenever someone does this by nerfing a bunch of stuff it tends to be a recipe for disaster. I’m not terribly impressed by this, even though it fundamentally doesn‘t seem to effects me much. I can go back to a vector 45 with killer and just keep on using my EB. Progress, I guess. The first few months after this patch goes live is gonna be pretty crazy, though
I have been out of the loop for this game....When do Season 2.0 go live? I tried finding info about it online, I saw one post say June for Season 6. But I have not played this game in over two years. So what's up everyone.
I'm ok with most changes although the Scorpio changes are worrisome in that it was the one weapon you could depend on and now maybe not so much. Have to see how it plays out. Can I as a final thought say we need a historic handgun like a Colt Peacemaker, so we can go Virginian/1886;Peacemaker with our cowboy apparel to be as 1886 as possible.
Gonna be honest Rouge, the reason I use Rifle/Shotgun build is because the aren't automatic...in combat you really aren't gonna be spraying and praying every time your in combat, I'm an Infantry vet trust me, it's a bit more immersive and realistic for me but making the lot of them automatic, everyone already has ARs and the smgs so I don't know why they are doing this to a class that needed a bit of skill to master imo. Yes I play conflict, go in the dark zones, and don't always get wreaked because of the automatic build but idk. I'm like you broski, love this franchise and will still have fun with it but honestly just a little disappointed if you will because it, anyway thanks for the to vids today and enjoyed watching the stream since missed it live. Cheers.
Fully respect that take. I think the biggest motive is accessibility- for me it's physically uncomfortable to run a Rifle for long periods of time due to the trigger spam. So I'm looking forward to that change for that reason, but I do get the disappointment in them losing their individuality
@RogueGold true, it does get a bit taxing on longer plays. But like we say don't know till we play it right. Again I truly appreciate your channel and content. Division and Fallout are really the only franchises I play lol. I catch when you go live with the pts, just don't tell my boss lmao. Thanks for getting back to me broski, means a lot a hardcore Division fan.
They are quick to buff and nerf gear and wepons but actually fixing some of the real issues....not so much. How long has the Call for Backup option been down? A couple of months, at least. For those who say just use Matchmaking, it's not ideal for players like me. I enjoy hanging out in WONY on the weekends to help players get their watches. Not consistently possible using Matchmaking.
Ok, I know I should really watch the full thing before commenting but SHOTTY SNIPES IS OFFICIALLY A THING!!! Oh hell yes I am loving these two new sets, it is about damn time we get options for boosting optimal range (I wish there was a talent for that in Descent) dear God yes. That mask is especially insane for a shotgun build, time to go legendary LMB on people (a cookie if you get the reference) EDIT: incoming Swap chain build? Is it finally going to be a thing as well?
So all of these talents will see some sort of nerf. No doubt about it. But I reallllllly like the concepts of them and am very excited to use these in game (regardless of whatever increases or decreases they see), craft new builds. Should be a fun season.
Im not gonna lie if it wasnt for the fact we have missions that we can target farm certain gear id say adding so many new items would be SO bad cause adding so much to an already massive loot pool would mean it would take forever to farm for full sets (or parts) for builds
If the SIX12 damage and reload speed nerfs also apply to Scorpio, then that gun was just MASSIVELY nerfed into Oblivion. Extra shots to apply the status effects while significantly decreasing the reload speed is a huge double-nerf.
This was coming. I already sensed it during the recruiter manhunt. When rogue gold invited that dev to hangout in his stream, he said it there. That Scorpio works in every situation and they might change it in the future. That's what happened. I don't know why they had to change it. Like most of the time we would just use it on hunters.
@@Narniak69 Yeah I mean I don't know why scorpio really needed a nerf. It wasn't affecting other players or anything. Just a thing in PvE which wasn't really even used all the time. Just a last resort against tougher enemies.
I'm still gonna play love this game, and I agree with your assessments of most. But my 3 main builds are an m1 headshot build, a scorpio hunters fury build, and a strikers oroborus build.... im starting to feel personally attacked here! Excited by the buffs and new stuff.
Ive been using 3 Providence, with Dacrifice and Gift. Contactor and Foxes Prayer with gruppo sombra. Hits like a mac truck still. Dont really need any other fancy crap.
Its giving devs pet that you agree with every nerf, a bit disheartening to even hear you in such a favor of all the nerfs. Particularly the Saint Elmos which I hope doesn't come to fruition. SEs damage was in its mods, it doesn't get an exotic talent that buffs damage or survivability. You have to land a full mag in order to get shock rounds which have diminishing returns as status effects have been nerfed into the ground as well. Also the functionality of the weapon means only about 30 rounds of shock ammo serve a purpose. You basically have a named weapon prancing around as an exotic. Just because the devs decided to introduce weapon handling and mag size into gear sets 6 years in it doesn't mean an item should get reduced because of it. If they're going to nerf SE mods, it needs a more viable talent.
The number of nerfs to crit chance and damage on brands sets is fairly gross. But also hits to RK's tier 1 and legmo tier 2? And some didn't change which is strange, especially on pieces that didn't have as crazy of impact. Or where they got crazy boosts for being one of the common to abuse (45% bonus self repair with 1% regen AND 10% armor on kill). The third is fine but I see the first two constantly abused.
I disagree almost all of the brand set, and exotic weapon nerfs if I am being honest. The St Elmos is not overpowered in PvE, it never has been. There is several AR's that compete with it in it's current state. The Scorpio nerf, sure its best in slot by far for shotguns in PvE, all that tells me is that they should make the other shotguns better instead of nerfing the only one that stands out. The Iron lung, they are buffing the regular MG5, the GR9 and the bullet king, so why does the Iron Lung get nerfed? That just doesn't make sense to me. Obliterate being nerfed, again doesn't make sense because Glass cannon gives more dmg anyways, plus most people just run the striker, or umbra chest instead of using obliterate anyways for those sets. The brand set nerfs are also incredibly unnecessary. I am just really confused by most of these nerfs as most of them make zero sense to me.
They better back track on the nerf to striker Oreo and Elmo’s bc it seems like a cop out instead of them making other things stronger and giving us new item that shake up what we want to use the just nerf the good guns and gear like striker has been reworked more then any other set just leave it the way it was leave the guns the way they were and just make other shit better like make the love-c and lightweight m4 assault rifles and make them good just make other smgs better I hate the way they try to balance bc all they do is fuck up the game for players who actually put time into there game just to make it more new player friendly fucking pisses me off
I hate weapons with terrible handling. It makes me not want to use the gun especially if I can’t even change it up to make it better. To take down -10 weapon handling on st almos is basacly saying fuck that gun you loved it, well we will destroy it for you a big F U smh terrible man also the Oro taking down -10 on mags is crucial man smh terrible
Felt the mighty need for another comment. Why the piss are we seeing nerfs over buffs to less otimal brands/sets/etc? You cannot tell me that you wouldn't use other options over 10% crit if you got a larger return. Same goes for crit damage of 15% taking a hit. And we wonder why 3p set bonuses aren't utilized when we have gearsets tending to net top damage. Every tier 3 should be grossly boosted, especially for sets that get outclassed when you're losing stat slots to net their 4p boosts. Especially in cases where you wouldn't ninja for superior returns. Devs shouldn't be balancing a game they aren't playing. Determined is another clear case of that. Idk just seems they looked at a chart of most actively worn items and clearly didn't use brain cells.
I don’t have a way to play the pts on a desktop. But I would let them know the new Strega FAL needs a 60 magazine, not 20. You can tell that the developers don’t play PvP 😂😂😂😂
Only nerf I have an issue with is obliterate. Why take damage away with that chest piece talent? They can easily just leave it where it’s at as they buff other talents in that category for other play styles. Now you’re nerfing people that love a certain damage play style for no reason.
That's that devs pet shit. no way anyone should be happy that the most commonly used stuff in the game is getting nerfed. Unless they want to appease someone
@@dontatme__ Smh you’re right and I totally forgot about that, especially since some of these sound OP off paper; And as big as the update is, let’s hope many bugs will come with it 😭
So if I understood correctly while making a CHC/CHD build you will be investing to the weapon instead of brand/gear sets. So instead of promoting and buffing diffirent things, they nerfed so we can "Forced" to try new things. I hope my striker build will forgive me but I'm going back my HF build...
damn .... I was hoping for buffs for the chatter box but they did not buff it enough. they need to up the round returned per kill. The chatterbox is only viable in story, and hard game levels. you simply can't kill enemies fast enough to keep the rounds coming back in. you eventually run out of ammo and need to reload then you loose everything you stacked into the gun. That is sad was really really hoping for a good comeback for the chatterbox but no. For the chatterbox to be viable in other game levels it would need to hit like the Eagle bearer.
They just destroyed the st.elmo, nerf the obliterate, striker gear, reduced the magsize and fire rate of f2000, reduced the weapon damage of picaro's holster. Akm's burst damage was also nerf. Fast hand was reduced. Overall this upcoming update is clearly to spit on dps builds then they call it "BaLaNcE"
Don't forget the massive TRIPLE nerf to Scorpio, which is a SIX12 shotgun. Damage down, decrease the reload speed, and requires more shots to apply status effects.
Overall, GREAT changes! I'm a bit bummed about the ouroboros and st elmo's nerfs, but I'm super excited that they granted us overall more power and build variety. Super stoked to try out the new gear set and exotics on the PTS tomorrow, alongside seasons 2.0 itself obviously. Can't wait for October, looks like Div2 is getting revitalized!
I think the only bad nerf is the Scorpio. Having to reload multiple times for the effects, doesn't really make it worth it anymore. What they should do is leave the status allocation alone and lower the base damage like they did to the 612
An insane number of changes... what are your first reactions to it all?
I will be going LIVE with the PTS tomorrow at 8:30AM Pacific/11:30AM Eastern 🔥 Hope to see you there!
shotguns did not need a buff
@@mutilatedcrow2607 They just nerfed Scorpio into Oblivion, and it's basically the only meta shotgun in the game.
Don't get me wrong but wouldn't be nice if devs added new gear set items as high-end i always appreciated new cosmetics but new mechanics are boring we don't need complexity we just need new content in new york .
Ps: i will still use striker no matter what lol
Mixed feelings on some of the buffs and nerfs, but overall kinda smirking that the meta just took a double-hoof donkey-kick to the junk.
Many Oroboros owners will jump off a cliff when they see those changes! I’m glad I don’t own one. 😂😂😂😂
Actually the change needed is stash size, the space is just not enough to collect all the gear sets or named/ exotic items, even one for each. Since they introduce more items every season, and do buff/ nerfs for encouraging more builds, the space matters...
Lol, and I just farmed my first striker build with my first St Elmo. What a time I chose to start the Div2. Hahaha
They're still going to be very solid options!
The same for me, and I got ouroboros just recently...
@Sascross ouroboros with striker is fantastic. All problems are solved with the rate of fire!
@@questionmark05not anymore once they nerf it smh. They just need to keep the buffs but remove the nerfs. They need to leave those guns and gears alone and just buff the ones they wanna buff out
@@RogueGoldno there’s not, they literally nerfed the fun out the game.
Sometimes it seams like we get punished fir having favorite gear. Whst a Coincidence. That the most popular stuff is getting nurft.
That new exotic AR is like Sentry’s call from division 1
I find it funny the sacred imperium is still unbuffed feel like that gun is so terrible
Yeah would've been nice to see some love for that one
Had a little heart attack when i saw the strikers nerf, but it's only the backpack and I already sacrifice that slot for a memento. Still pissed about the Elmo nerf.
same
Nerfing things to promote the use of other items is the dumbest argument I swear. Just don’t use the things you think are OP, you don’t need the devs removing these options from the game.
When I play COD I don’t use meta guns, I use what I think is fun.
What you said makes sense for me, since I’m primary PVE, but I understand it for those who are in competitive play. you don’t only want to be limited to the same 4 weapon loadouts and gear sets as everyone else, in order simply to compete. Multiple seasons of the same meta can get old, so I can see why they do what they do; granted unlike you and I (just playing for fun) many are real sweats and make it a big deal to win by any means
Or buff the other existing brands/sets/weapons/exotics rather than nerfing.
keep thinking that lmao, love stomping on yall kids using meta weapons in cod. so i aint gonnna argue 😂
The nerf to obliterate is absolutely ridiculous, 17%!!! Why not 20% WTF
youll be ok
Yeah I agree. I use it with striker backpack remember it is for the PTS they might change it back just have ur hopes up
Why are they nerfing the MP7 damage and rof? It already can’t take a magazine mod. It just feels so unnecessary to me
All these nerfs are awful.. Picaro's & Scorpio didn't deserve this!
Disagree, the Scorpion has been Overpowered as all hell for ages. I'm surprised they didn't nerf the Memento as well.
@@Malacitesame actually
The new exotic AR sounds cool but you know it is only a matter of time until they nerf it.
First thing: Very excited about automatic rifles. Definitely will take my lightweight m4 for a spin to remind myself of division 1 days. Very excited for the new exotic too. Time we had some love for the FAL.
Second thing: I know i will hurt my fingers using scorpio now. Because of all the taps and reloads. Same thing with ouroboros. It will be just spamming the R key as they reduced the number of rounds. That gun already depleted its ammo very quickly.
Scorpio is also a SIX12 type shotgun, so it's getting the other massive nerfs to reload speed and damage. It was just TRIPLE nerfed into Oblivion.
The MP7 NERF was the first thing I noticed!
I've been using it since the last buff, but I guess now it will go back to the Stash...
Do they not realize that when they nerf something like this, all that accomplishes is to ensure basically no one will use it, thus making it pointless to even have in the game?
@@MatthiasPowerbomb it might change with the PTS, but right now, the nerf is REALLY hard!
@@paulocarvalho1982 The thing that perplexes me to this day is that, when they first started talking about Division 2 and why they were doing a new game instead of continuing to support Div 1, was that they needed to do a new game from the ground up so they could balance PvE and PvP separately. That at least made sense. But since Div 2 came out, they've done very little of that, and they still balance PvE based on PvP.
PvE is cooperative, so why does it matter if Striker or the MP7 or whatever is powerful? Balance it differently for PvP, fine, I couldn't care less. But PvE? Why?
It just shows that one of the main stated reasons for doing Div 2 in the first place was ultimately pointless.
@@MatthiasPowerbomb they can't really do diferent balance for PvE and PvP, they don't have that many Devs working on the game...
@MatthiasPowerbomb it's a whole other team working on Div 2 than what we had making the game. That team got pulled to other projects, and Ubi Bucharest took over and had a *huge* learning curve to boot. For their small numbers, and small funding from mama Ubi, they do at least deserve some credit.
I don't quite get the changes to the Scorpio, the increase in shots required for each debuff doesn't work since the gun only has 8 shells before a reload
Scorpio debuff does not end just because you reload. The debuff is still working, they just force you to reload before you can apply the 20% all incoming dmg buff for your team. Unless you get some +mag size with your gear, but probably not a stat that's really worth going for unless in certain builds. Alternativly 2 people could use Scorpio since the debuff stacks together, but I am not sure about that.
Scorpio is also a SIX12 type shotgun, so it's getting the other massive nerfs to reload speed and damage. It was just TRIPLE nerfed into Oblivion.
I just put together my rifle build for my lovely MDR a few days ago, and now it's getting a huge buff. This time, I'm giving the devs a "massive" W
This is not a balance this is horrible for anyone with all the gear in the game. This is to clearly stop the player from doing damage. This will possibly drive most veteran players away from the game. None asked for this update.
Just give us big Alejandro lmg and lone star gear set. That shiz was crazy fun XD
The memories. Sure miss it.
Yeesss. Man, what I would give to have these back
try sleipnir lmg, 4p umbra(buffed), 3p striker and ninja bike bag
@Scallaix that's actually what I'm running for a make shift lonestar build. Just to get a little closer to what lonestar does, I'm running steady handed for the auto reload
@@terrynichols4509 I remembered LS as a rpm set on full reload which Sleipnir does essentially (gun go brrr)
Looking forward to having my LVOA-C back from division 1 fully automatic not as fast but glad they've changed it 👍
What's the rpm on it ?
I suspect Ouro getting nerfed might kill interest in running the incursion.
That new exotic FAL with Negotiatior's Dilema could be an awesome combo.
That mozzie with my deflector build... Delicious.
Next season will have all backpack talents change to ‘doom’ talent where everything dies as you walk in the room. If you run into the room it also fills your cache capacity with exotics.
TYTY so much for an detailed description of everything and all the work you individually do!!
🙏 Appreciate it!
The bighorn is already op and that’s from somebody who uses it 247 and it doesn’t make sense to buff it even more. Glad the ouroboros finally gets a nerf it’s going to be more fun in PvP again with that gun not plaguing the game
Striker nerf Isn’t actually that bad… I’m more annoyed at the obliterate nerf on top of that :/
The problem is lack of new content. We just had a lackluster season with nothing new which caused a ton of players to stop playing & their solution is to nerf the most popular gear and guns that we've spent months grinding to upgrade.
Make it make sense. Clown dev team 🤡
Typical massive. Puts to high of emphasis on expertise, makes us grind out to upgrade to realize the game isn't balanced to their liking. They're so afraid of what happened to end game of div 1 or understanding we're playing outdated tech to begin with! At some point it has to break in order for u to make a new one or you just micromanage or core fan base away
everyone that’s been playing the game through the recent seasons is either mad or has mixed feelings about this meanwhile i haven’t played in a year and this list of massive patch notes has me extremely interested and makes me bound to return
That new Exotic.
Negotiators Dilemma or Hunter's Fury might be the play.
As for any of the major changes,
I have a Measured SMG Ongoing Directive build. That's getting a very notable buff. Measured Vector fired like a damn autocannon during the Guardians Global Event.
Really happy with many of the changes here. I decided to try and get back into div 2 ahead of the eventual dlc. I’m happy with the bighorn change as it’s my primary PvP gun, but I hate it in pve. Even in pvp when you’re against guns like Elmo, oroboro, iron long with its fire, it can feel a little bit pointless to build for headshots.
You know, I might have to get into the division again. The Striga might do wonders with the armor set, with being able to debuff every thing and then going close with a back up smg. You could also really try Ravenous again, because I think its one of the rifles becoming full auto. I might have to give Space Marines 2 and get back on the division grind!
That'll make pulse rifles more deadly especially with umbra ninja bike combo
The rav is gonna be very strong now especially with aces.
Bit sad for the MP7 just when it started to get some much needed love.
The M870 going up seems weird. Might see more versatile builds in PvP.
Oroborous nerf was needed. It's just silly.
I've been saying forever they needed to buff weapon mods above everything else especially since Elmos came out. So glad to see that. That will make a huge difference to builds especially if they buff crit chance/damage a few percent and provide a more substantial increase on stability.
I'm really happy for the HB buff. It's my favourite set by far. So maybe I'll jump back in for a bit. I think they might regret this one now though as heartbreaker is already crazy strong.
Did you mention True Patriot? If any set needs a buff it's that. I could've missed it though.
Widely agree! No True Patriot changes, which is sad for sure. It's already one of the more lacking sets
@@RogueGold I think they won't touch the true patriot set for a long while. I am sure they still have ptsd from when it was running rampant in the dark zone in the early years. What I am sad about the most is that the ACR is still getting shafted while not having any redeeming qualities to its name after 6 years the game has been out, meanwhile the famas gets buffed.
Personally rifles being semi automatic is why i like them
There will still be one that are semi so you can still use them
very happy to see the lwm4 going back to auto.
How the hell did the devs look at the helldivers 2 fiasco and decide; “Y’know what division 2 needs? Nerfs”
Edit; to clarify I’m really only bummed on strikers being nerfed because if they really wanted people to use other gear sets or brands they would buff the weaker ones to be optimal. I completely agree on the Oro nerf as that smg is brutal in PvP. I don’t really see Oro being used in PvE that much tbh.
yup picaro's holster did not deserve that nerf i lost 5 WHOLE percent of my damage for what? so that i would consider tripping myself with some defective pruduct i want to live not to die because the gear systeam is ducked
5??? More like 20. It was doomed from the start. OG PH came with 20% weapon damage, got reduced to 15 with the intent to be able to roll 15 as a core attribute. Noticing their blunder they claim it can't be rolled as a core because its a minor and would require rework of the whole attribute system. Now look, its getting nerfed yet again.
Whew - I listen at 1.5 speed and I AM breathless from listening to this - LOL
Fuck yes. My baby the Bighorn is getting another buff
I dont think its worth nerfing the ouroboros. The main defining attribute of the weapon is its insane rpm. Nerfing said attribute will put it on par with similar smgs like the vector and make it generic. Combined it with the ammo nerf, it is slightly more than a vector with a extended mag, which defeats the purpose of it being a unique weapon for the Paradise lost incursion. If they go through with this, people are going to stop grinding the incursion as they can just farm and use a vector and get higher dps due to its higher base damage than the ouroboros. Really hope that this don't come to pass.
It’s pretty obvious that the mods getting buffed are the mods no one ever uses and with a few nerfs here and a few nerfs there, crit builds will suffer.
I get that they kinda sorta wanna move the meta along, but whenever someone does this by nerfing a bunch of stuff it tends to be a recipe for disaster. I’m not terribly impressed by this, even though it fundamentally doesn‘t seem to effects me much. I can go back to a vector 45 with killer and just keep on using my EB. Progress, I guess.
The first few months after this patch goes live is gonna be pretty crazy, though
Finally an update that good to come back for.
I'll wait and see what changes survive the PTS....
I have been out of the loop for this game....When do Season 2.0 go live? I tried finding info about it online, I saw one post say June for Season 6. But I have not played this game in over two years. So what's up everyone.
The tentative date is October 22nd 👍 And welcome back!
@@RogueGold Thank you, sir
I'm ok with most changes although the Scorpio changes are worrisome in that it was the one weapon you could depend on and now maybe not so much. Have to see how it plays out. Can I as a final thought say we need a historic handgun like a Colt Peacemaker, so we can go Virginian/1886;Peacemaker with our cowboy apparel to be as 1886 as possible.
Good thing my trigger finger will be getting a break now for my Classic M1A, because it will need to be well-rested for when I swap to the Scorpio!
Gonna be honest Rouge, the reason I use Rifle/Shotgun build is because the aren't automatic...in combat you really aren't gonna be spraying and praying every time your in combat, I'm an Infantry vet trust me, it's a bit more immersive and realistic for me but making the lot of them automatic, everyone already has ARs and the smgs so I don't know why they are doing this to a class that needed a bit of skill to master imo. Yes I play conflict, go in the dark zones, and don't always get wreaked because of the automatic build but idk. I'm like you broski, love this franchise and will still have fun with it but honestly just a little disappointed if you will because it, anyway thanks for the to vids today and enjoyed watching the stream since missed it live. Cheers.
Fully respect that take. I think the biggest motive is accessibility- for me it's physically uncomfortable to run a Rifle for long periods of time due to the trigger spam. So I'm looking forward to that change for that reason, but I do get the disappointment in them losing their individuality
@RogueGold true, it does get a bit taxing on longer plays. But like we say don't know till we play it right. Again I truly appreciate your channel and content. Division and Fallout are really the only franchises I play lol. I catch when you go live with the pts, just don't tell my boss lmao. Thanks for getting back to me broski, means a lot a hardcore Division fan.
Very interesting new gear ⚙️ and guns looking forward to trying out the gear set love the content
They are quick to buff and nerf gear and wepons but actually fixing some of the real issues....not so much. How long has the Call for Backup option been down? A couple of months, at least. For those who say just use Matchmaking, it's not ideal for players like me. I enjoy hanging out in WONY on the weekends to help players get their watches. Not consistently possible using Matchmaking.
Ok, I know I should really watch the full thing before commenting but SHOTTY SNIPES IS OFFICIALLY A THING!!!
Oh hell yes I am loving these two new sets, it is about damn time we get options for boosting optimal range (I wish there was a talent for that in Descent) dear God yes.
That mask is especially insane for a shotgun build, time to go legendary
LMB on people (a cookie if you get the reference)
EDIT: incoming Swap chain build? Is it finally going to be a thing as well?
So all of these talents will see some sort of nerf. No doubt about it. But I reallllllly like the concepts of them and am very excited to use these in game (regardless of whatever increases or decreases they see), craft new builds. Should be a fun season.
EB is still a raid exclusive..
Im not gonna lie if it wasnt for the fact we have missions that we can target farm certain gear id say adding so many new items would be SO bad cause adding so much to an already massive loot pool would mean it would take forever to farm for full sets (or parts) for builds
I wish they would make Raids solo able . I wanted regulus for years . Everyone on raids DC . I come back often to try and get the same results .
If the SIX12 damage and reload speed nerfs also apply to Scorpio, then that gun was just MASSIVELY nerfed into Oblivion. Extra shots to apply the status effects while significantly decreasing the reload speed is a huge double-nerf.
This was coming. I already sensed it during the recruiter manhunt. When rogue gold invited that dev to hangout in his stream, he said it there. That Scorpio works in every situation and they might change it in the future. That's what happened. I don't know why they had to change it. Like most of the time we would just use it on hunters.
@@is0latedplays453 Exactly. The Scorpio is an extremely important tool for crowd control, heavies, and rogue agents, especially when playing solo.
@@Narniak69 Yeah I mean I don't know why scorpio really needed a nerf. It wasn't affecting other players or anything. Just a thing in PvE which wasn't really even used all the time. Just a last resort against tougher enemies.
some reworks to dead exotics like acostas kneepads and “that” exotic gloves is welcome
Mannn this gear set gonna hit hard
I'm still gonna play love this game, and I agree with your assessments of most. But my 3 main builds are an m1 headshot build, a scorpio hunters fury build, and a strikers oroborus build.... im starting to feel personally attacked here! Excited by the buffs and new stuff.
I truly think the nerfed items will still be quite strong! But at least the M1A is going up by a good bit 👍
Ive been using 3 Providence, with Dacrifice and Gift. Contactor and Foxes Prayer with gruppo sombra. Hits like a mac truck still. Dont really need any other fancy crap.
I am not that mad about the nerfs, but like, wow!!, let's see what the meta gonna show next season.
ouroboros nerf is great. ar buffs with optimist is great as well
Oh my god, you mean to tell me all that practice I did with the ravenous is all for naught?? Nice
Hol on 2 videos in one day Rogue cookin🔥🗣
You had me at new AR😊
Its giving devs pet that you agree with every nerf, a bit disheartening to even hear you in such a favor of all the nerfs. Particularly the Saint Elmos which I hope doesn't come to fruition. SEs damage was in its mods, it doesn't get an exotic talent that buffs damage or survivability. You have to land a full mag in order to get shock rounds which have diminishing returns as status effects have been nerfed into the ground as well. Also the functionality of the weapon means only about 30 rounds of shock ammo serve a purpose. You basically have a named weapon prancing around as an exotic. Just because the devs decided to introduce weapon handling and mag size into gear sets 6 years in it doesn't mean an item should get reduced because of it. If they're going to nerf SE mods, it needs a more viable talent.
BigHorn buff? im all for it, love using it in pve and pvp, also dark winter indirect buff wooooooooo, rip ouroboros
The number of nerfs to crit chance and damage on brands sets is fairly gross. But also hits to RK's tier 1 and legmo tier 2?
And some didn't change which is strange, especially on pieces that didn't have as crazy of impact. Or where they got crazy boosts for being one of the common to abuse (45% bonus self repair with 1% regen AND 10% armor on kill). The third is fine but I see the first two constantly abused.
Wow…. Full automatic Ravouvus? It gonna crazy use by striker? Let see test try out pts! TY TO SHOW US VIDEO KEEP UP!
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I disagree almost all of the brand set, and exotic weapon nerfs if I am being honest. The St Elmos is not overpowered in PvE, it never has been. There is several AR's that compete with it in it's current state. The Scorpio nerf, sure its best in slot by far for shotguns in PvE, all that tells me is that they should make the other shotguns better instead of nerfing the only one that stands out. The Iron lung, they are buffing the regular MG5, the GR9 and the bullet king, so why does the Iron Lung get nerfed? That just doesn't make sense to me. Obliterate being nerfed, again doesn't make sense because Glass cannon gives more dmg anyways, plus most people just run the striker, or umbra chest instead of using obliterate anyways for those sets. The brand set nerfs are also incredibly unnecessary. I am just really confused by most of these nerfs as most of them make zero sense to me.
They better back track on the nerf to striker Oreo and Elmo’s bc it seems like a cop out instead of them making other things stronger and giving us new item that shake up what we want to use the just nerf the good guns and gear like striker has been reworked more then any other set just leave it the way it was leave the guns the way they were and just make other shit better like make the love-c and lightweight m4 assault rifles and make them good just make other smgs better I hate the way they try to balance bc all they do is fuck up the game for players who actually put time into there game just to make it more new player friendly fucking pisses me off
I hate weapons with terrible handling. It makes me not want to use the gun especially if I can’t even change it up to make it better. To take down -10 weapon handling on st almos is basacly saying fuck that gun you loved it, well we will destroy it for you a big F U smh terrible man also the Oro taking down -10 on mags is crucial man smh terrible
Most of my main builds are getting nerfed, including two of my most-used skill builds. Thanks for nothing, Massive.
Felt the mighty need for another comment.
Why the piss are we seeing nerfs over buffs to less otimal brands/sets/etc? You cannot tell me that you wouldn't use other options over 10% crit if you got a larger return. Same goes for crit damage of 15% taking a hit.
And we wonder why 3p set bonuses aren't utilized when we have gearsets tending to net top damage. Every tier 3 should be grossly boosted, especially for sets that get outclassed when you're losing stat slots to net their 4p boosts.
Especially in cases where you wouldn't ninja for superior returns.
Devs shouldn't be balancing a game they aren't playing. Determined is another clear case of that.
Idk just seems they looked at a chart of most actively worn items and clearly didn't use brain cells.
36 min vid time to get some snacks
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what an insane time for the division 2 a fully auto ravi!!!! lawd
THE VINDICATOR'S BACK LETS GO
I'm afraid they're gonna nerf the M1A againn, because lucky shot is gonnna be maaaaad. All these changes look like preview for The Division 3
14:50 This is my rifle! There are many like it, but this one is mine!
Losing 10 rounds on my St-Elmo P’s me off. Yet the EB gets a buff. Great
I don’t have a way to play the pts on a desktop. But I would let them know the new Strega FAL needs a 60 magazine, not 20. You can tell that the developers don’t play PvP 😂😂😂😂
RIP st. Elmos 😔
I litterly got St elmos a week ago and the oro yesterday... Im disgusted
14:34 those two are ACR SS and the exotic akm rifle Merciless
Ahh good catch, thanks!
Only nerf I have an issue with is obliterate. Why take damage away with that chest piece talent? They can easily just leave it where it’s at as they buff other talents in that category for other play styles. Now you’re nerfing people that love a certain damage play style for no reason.
Great changes, do wish heartbreaker bonus armor didn't stack as much in PvP. Someone hits you with an ACS, you're all done, no matter what you do
Given you can run Pulse Resistance as a hard counter, I think it's in a good spot
Rogue agrees with every nerf. 🤨🤔
That's that devs pet shit. no way anyone should be happy that the most commonly used stuff in the game is getting nerfed. Unless they want to appease someone
Everything is adding weapon damage this update it sounds like… TTK is gonna be a little crazy LOL
Nope. What they won't mention is NPCs will get a buff too. Not even sure why they're nerfing shit. They give enemies a boost everytime.
@@dontatme__ Smh you’re right and I totally forgot about that, especially since some of these sound OP off paper; And as big as the update is, let’s hope many bugs will come with it 😭
So if I understood correctly while making a CHC/CHD build you will be investing to the weapon instead of brand/gear sets.
So instead of promoting and buffing diffirent things, they nerfed so we can "Forced" to try new things. I hope my striker build will forgive me but I'm going back my HF build...
So glad Striker got a nerf. Maybe now I'll see some variety in my countdown games. That set has been so strong for so many years. Even in Div 1.
RIFLES AUTOMATIC NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I said the same 😂
finaly i wont have muscle pain in my right index finger after using ravenous rifle with the umbra gear set
Why dont they come out with the g-18 (glock 18) as an exotic pistol to bring pistol play back?
damn .... I was hoping for buffs for the chatter box but they did not buff it enough. they need to up the round returned per kill. The chatterbox is only viable in story, and hard game levels. you simply can't kill enemies fast enough to keep the rounds coming back in. you eventually run out of ammo and need to reload then you loose everything you stacked into the gun. That is sad was really really hoping for a good comeback for the chatterbox but no. For the chatterbox to be viable in other game levels it would need to hit like the Eagle bearer.
Omfg they buffed the Big horn... now theres going to be more full blue armor regen andys on the DZ lmao
Time to take my ravenous
They just destroyed the st.elmo, nerf the obliterate, striker gear, reduced the magsize and fire rate of f2000, reduced the weapon damage of picaro's holster. Akm's burst damage was also nerf. Fast hand was reduced. Overall this upcoming update is clearly to spit on dps builds then they call it "BaLaNcE"
Don't forget the massive TRIPLE nerf to Scorpio, which is a SIX12 shotgun. Damage down, decrease the reload speed, and requires more shots to apply status effects.
the changes to the Blue screen and Bullet king gave me a stiffy.
Overall, GREAT changes! I'm a bit bummed about the ouroboros and st elmo's nerfs, but I'm super excited that they granted us overall more power and build variety. Super stoked to try out the new gear set and exotics on the PTS tomorrow, alongside seasons 2.0 itself obviously. Can't wait for October, looks like Div2 is getting revitalized!
👊 Hell yeah!
Keep the mag size ouro!
They paid Rogue to say this BULLSHIT
Obliterate and Providence Defense nerfs are making me sad af, I don’t like it.
I think the only bad nerf is the Scorpio. Having to reload multiple times for the effects, doesn't really make it worth it anymore. What they should do is leave the status allocation alone and lower the base damage like they did to the 612
Scorpio is also a SIX12 type shotgun, so it's getting the other massive nerfs to reload speed and damage. It was just TRIPLE nerfed into Oblivion.
I litterly only got the ouroboros yesterday... What was the fuckin point.. Jesus christ
Get back on your hamster wheel gamer! GRIND, GRIND, GRIND!