I would agree, but the price sit upon might make that un-obtainable. The Mac mini might be too expensive, but the Apple TV as a game system does 2 things in one piece of equipment.
It's only gonna work with this or that, and only run on a certain service. Wouldn't be surprised with all the proprietary crap they do. Figured out a way to make a proprietary USB-C... For "better charging". Either way, it'll be made in China
I never understood why people spend $3000 on a cellphone just to spend another $3000 for the next version of that phone the next year... cellphones are limited to what they can do for you...call,text, video/camera, and get on the internet is the main reasons why people even use phones but definitely not worth $3000 to just that
Umm... Akshually!☝🤓 iPhones start at just $429, and you can get the latest starting at just $799 They barely have a standard 25% profit margin on the base models So the base consoles will sell at manufacturing cost. and they will make a profit on the storage upgrades. For a 4K60, 1080p120 type console, it will probably be: $699 - 512 GB $799 - 1 TB $999 - 2 TB $1,399 - 4 TB memory will be soldered, or will use special nvme storage like xbox as an up sell if it has good games, guess what? i will buy it first thing, because I am rich.
What about the epic game problem? Will they fix that? For people who don’t know, apple has a problem with epic games, when you try to play anything on the epic games launcher it would not let you. No idea why or what happened, but I got a MacBook Air m3 and thought I could play some of those games, and guess what… I couldn’t. So apple please fix this!
They should make a TV that has a built-in PC,with the best hardware and software, so you can play all the games that can be played on PC, and that's almost literally all games, from Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox. That way you would have everything in one, so that you don't have to buy each console or PC separately, but only a TV with the strongest hardware and that again it looks quite thin, of course with powerful fans for cooling.
They’re only needed to force some price cuts and draw backs to Sony & Nintendo mainly since they’re the gaming leaders In the industry worst comes to worst they’ll end up like Google stadia or Sega 😂
Should be very affordable at $5000, they'll change the peripherals each year, that way you'll have to buy the new cables if you want to play the latest games. Their subscription will be 50 bucks a month for basic games, AAA games will be another one time fee. You'll have to spend another 50 bucks a month to upgrade your iCloud storage. Each user will need to have their own iCloud, so each person will have to upgrade their storage. The external storage will be some odd ball apple exclusive storage. Lol, I see this following the Dreamcast
IMO If Apple partners with Nvidia, they can bring a powerful yet affordable gaming console to the market. However they need to carefully plan their console launch with a few good titles, so people have something to keep them entertained for the first 6 months at least.
There are games already on Apple TV and you can connect a controller. All they need to do is add a more powerful chip and possibly more fans, and then fix their relationship with Epic Games. Boom. Gaming monopoly complete.
Don’t even compare Apple Arcade to Game Pass or PlayStation it is nowhere near equal for a full-size gaming concert. Apple TV couldn’t even hold one triple a title that is on PlayStation or Xbox.
That’s a thing on its own. I would like to see a far better OS on iPad but MacOS is optimized for use with mouse and keyboard. What Apple could do is bring a touch optimized version of MacOS to iPad.
In gaming, price/performance ratio is crucial. Now performance is far away from actual consoles, and even there is not any sense in comparing it to PC in the price tag.
🤣🤣🤣 Apple is so STUPID!!! They'll never be able to compete with Sony or Rockstar!!! Besides, Apple needs to stick to what they're good at; making phones and TVs.
Oh my God, yes! Please!!!!!!! I would love to stick with Apple computers for my music production and still be able to game as well as PC owners. Please please please do this!
I also use Apple computers for music production but gaming? On my iPhone and iPad I play games (not great ones because there aren’t many available) to kill time. But if I want to play great games, I’ll stick to Nintendo and Sony.
As interesting as it would be for Apple to try to make a gaming console, i really don’t think it would work. The products they already have are expensive (i have an iPhone and iPad. I’m not getting an Apple Watch), so i highly doubt anyone would wanna pay an arm and a leg for games they likely already have on other platforms. We all saw what happened with the Stadia.
Apples biggest problem is gamers as well as non gamers like to upgrade and everyone knows that Apple like to lock their stuff down making it non repairable or upgradable which makes them non desirable products, they lost a lot of sales because of their IPhones being locked from repair
Apple should probably focus on their phone's os and design rather than competing some other gaming console, anyway it will be another unsuccessful product again like apple vision pro no one buying
WTF are you talking about? In the first 4 years of its release PS5 sold almost 60 mil units, if you look at historical data in the same timeframe of other consoles release, PS5 is the best selling console. Consoles are not dead, you are just not paying attention. After Covid, gaming and by its extension console gaming ,became mainstream hoby.
Don't get you're hopes up people look at there laptop it will play games amazing you get one. And it only plays like 3 games and it does not even do that good
Well isn't what's killing consoles now. Are the games coming out or not coming out? Looks good idea to have another way to play games. But I see the issue more being the games themselves.
Apple Arcade game is full of boring and stupid casual games like card game, snake, candy crash type of games, temple run, cooking game, love story, talking tom, seriously?
Indeed. Apple Arcade is pointed towards mobile gamers who only shoot colored balls to other stacked balls or like to tap on a playing cards to see if they won a few coins that can be spend on more cards so that your brains turn to mush before you’re 30.
Maybe release an apple silicon powered handheld which wirelessly connects through a high bandwidth signal to a next apple tv style dock with the receiver portion of same chip. The dock should house a more GPU-centric APU chip to enhance the graphics. controllers for handheld should be detachable for motion vr gaming when connected to a vision pro. If i were apple this would be a way to make more money.
The thing is. I’m a Mouse and Keyboard gamer. I hate the controllers. It’s not fast enough to move on certain games. But that’s me. That’s why I’m waiting on the new iMac Pro with the M4 AI chip installed.
Apple will announce a new iMac with M4 later this month. Release on November 1. Gurman also talks about an iMac Pro with 32” screen coming next year (probably with M4 Max or M4 Ultra chip). I still use my 27” Intel iMac. The current iMac M3 looks great, but the screen is only 24”. So I also wait for an iMac Pro
If it doesn’t have some amazing 1st title launches than No….it won’t effect the gaming market at all….. No one needs to play COD on an apple device if they can already play it on a PS5 or Xbox….this is why Nintendo is winning …there 1st party games are always superb
Knowing Apple it's going to be more than 300 especially since Sony's offering $700 for a pro? And i believe every gaming console or PC should at least have one TB anything less than that you're probably just going to have one game or two
Plus how gaming things are going there’s a PlayStation and XBOX apps what if they set a app you can play those games on a Apple gaming console PlayStation already have rumors that PS6 will be the last physical console
Since the apple a4 chip apple is champion In gaming. They just remove very good games all the times from the app store. But having a risc processor with a couple of watts less than 25 is aeons better than a 400 Watt pc wasting energy. Best is Ps4 slim And xbox one s they use 50 watts and still deliver descend graphics and huge amount of games up to 190gb I think that's where apple can't deliver. Handhelds taking over with less than 20 watts of gaming
If it's going to offer console and PC games hell yes but if it's just going to offer iOS mobile games or streaming games then no. Also if it's going to be a gaming handheld micro SD card support something happened has never done on their tablets. Finally the price will have to be between an Apple TV and hey Mac mini.
yes dammit Apple Mac mini with m4 chip and apple tv built in 1 tb to start and a 10 games launch that everyone likes ! the money they make from iphones alone would pay for it and then some!
iPod touch 4g first time mobile gaming and astonished till today nothing new. Before that the ps1 and before that gameboy and before that the atari2600
If there console is affordable and the games have some kind of a subscription like on Xbox and PlayStation then it might be a gd idea and they work gd on there system then I can’t see nothing going wrong but it’s how much there going to cost for the console if it’s in the same price as any other console then it might be a gd thing for gaming but u need a gd storage and ram then I can’t see why it wouldn’t work only if they away of running the games through cloud storage then that would work for a small price for storage and the fact u can add more storage if and when required
Apple has the power to do it. I believe they could make a gaming console that could absolutely dominate PlayStation. I’m not gonna even talk about Xbox because they’re on life-support, but Apple has the technology to build the ultimate gaming console to rival the PlayStation 6 and the switch 2… Xbox they’re finished
Lmaoo apple is too late Xbox is A1 all you need is your controller and the app on apple 🤣 they slickly made us cloud game and we didn’t even notice and we love it! Can’t go back no lags you can even cloud online game
No one is going to buy it cause the ps5 and Xbox already pricy and u know what apple likes to do make everything cost a rent payment and probably have a system similar to ps+ and Xbox live but theirs is gonna be the price of a gas water electric and service bill
The best thing the Apple could do stay away from gaming
Indeed. Would be a mistake if they try to make a gaming console.
They are big in gaming since the iPad one and iPod touch 4g
Why not focus on the Mac Mini as an Apple TV replacement and a gaming console? One device to rule them all.
Yes, Please!!!!
I guess I will continue to wait for an M4 Mac mini for music production And Gaming!!!!
With M1 and a heap of ram, sorted 🤣
I would agree, but the price sit upon might make that un-obtainable. The Mac mini might be too expensive, but the Apple TV as a game system does 2 things in one piece of equipment.
And in the darkness, bind them!!!
One device rule them all? Would you do that if you are the CEO of Apple?
They need better games on the apple arcade first
new console may actual use their metal api for ready made games at launch, just my thoughts
Probably not gonna depend on their store, it's probably gonna be a streaming box. Apple version of a android box.
True. Even the AAA console games run like shit on Apple devices. See my comment.
They charge $3,000 for a phone just imagine what this is going to cost?
It's only gonna work with this or that, and only run on a certain service. Wouldn't be surprised with all the proprietary crap they do. Figured out a way to make a proprietary USB-C... For "better charging". Either way, it'll be made in China
1:05 😮
True !!!
I never understood why people spend $3000 on a cellphone just to spend another $3000 for the next version of that phone the next year... cellphones are limited to what they can do for you...call,text, video/camera, and get on the internet is the main reasons why people even use phones but definitely not worth $3000 to just that
Umm... Akshually!☝🤓
iPhones start at just $429, and you can get the latest starting at just $799
They barely have a standard 25% profit margin on the base models
So the base consoles will sell at manufacturing cost.
and they will make a profit on the storage upgrades.
For a 4K60, 1080p120 type console, it will probably be:
$699 - 512 GB
$799 - 1 TB
$999 - 2 TB
$1,399 - 4 TB
memory will be soldered, or will use special nvme storage like xbox as an up sell
if it has good games, guess what? i will buy it first thing, because I am rich.
I'm all for competition in the gaming market. The more the merrier.
Apple: Controller and charger sould separately. $300 extra lol
Honestly I will stick to sony
Same
Besides, what exclusives will they have?
I’m glad you do. Apple sucks at gaming.
Honestly I will stick to Sony & Xbox
Me: Laughs in PC:
Also Me: It's kinda refreshing to see Apple aiming higher
I love the idea of Apple's Gaming Console. Because Apple has the complexity to simplicity.
What about the epic game problem? Will they fix that? For people who don’t know, apple has a problem with epic games, when you try to play anything on the epic games launcher it would not let you. No idea why or what happened, but I got a MacBook Air m3 and thought I could play some of those games, and guess what… I couldn’t. So apple please fix this!
They should make a TV that has a built-in PC,with the best hardware and software, so you can play all the games that can be played on PC, and that's almost literally all games, from Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox. That way you would have everything in one, so that you don't have to buy each console or PC separately, but only a TV with the strongest hardware and that again it looks quite thin, of course with powerful fans for cooling.
Well how are going charge with Apple TV?
YES! Apple please Please PLEASE bring us a gaming console! I will buy it, I will love it!
They’re only needed to force some price cuts and draw backs to Sony & Nintendo mainly since they’re the gaming leaders In the industry worst comes to worst they’ll end up like Google stadia or Sega 😂
This gone be the most expensive game ever
Should be very affordable at $5000, they'll change the peripherals each year, that way you'll have to buy the new cables if you want to play the latest games. Their subscription will be 50 bucks a month for basic games, AAA games will be another one time fee. You'll have to spend another 50 bucks a month to upgrade your iCloud storage. Each user will need to have their own iCloud, so each person will have to upgrade their storage. The external storage will be some odd ball apple exclusive storage. Lol, I see this following the Dreamcast
Is the power cord and the controller gonna be sold separately?
Well of course, they'll have an exclusive cable to connect them as well 😂😂
Why not use binned M4 chips?
Would be great for the new Apple TV. And it’s very likely Apple will do this. Will have the power to run Apple Intelligence.
IMO If Apple partners with Nvidia, they can bring a powerful yet affordable gaming console to the market. However they need to carefully plan their console launch with a few good titles, so people have something to keep them entertained for the first 6 months at least.
"Affordable" 😂
I’m looking forward to another PlayStation Xbox device to run the same games.. plus shitty crap
You need the M1 Pro chip, Wifi 7, Bt 5.4, HDMI 2.1, DDR 5, 1tb 4.0 Nvme, Display Port 2.0. Add a ATSC 3.0 NextGen. Now you can charge $399
There are games already on Apple TV and you can connect a controller. All they need to do is add a more powerful chip and possibly more fans, and then fix their relationship with Epic Games. Boom. Gaming monopoly complete.
So you basically want another PlayStation or Xbox to run the same games? Makes no sense whatsoever
I swear I was gonna pitch this idea to them 😭
I think the best Combination would be an M4 pro with a stronger GPU for ray tracing and stuff like that
GO FOR IT APPLE ...IM IN
I'll stick with my Steam Deck. I'm sure the games on Apple will be too expensive for my taste.
yeah can never see apple doin this just be a waste of resources
Gotta start somewhere Nintendo 64 style 😅
So you’re saying I can now play mobile app games on my TV, is just the big news?
It would have soldered ssd and also soldered controllers.
No controller included. Sold separately. Also no power brick included.
Don’t even compare Apple Arcade to Game Pass or PlayStation it is nowhere near equal for a full-size gaming concert. Apple TV couldn’t even hold one triple a title that is on PlayStation or Xbox.
I just wanna know about the exclusive titles what kind of games can Apple create?
Price 10k
This is the end of all windows based RISC-V personal gaming computers
“GamePod” $4999.99
Hahaha 😂 best comment so far.
Why not bring MacOS to iPad
That’s a thing on its own. I would like to see a far better OS on iPad but MacOS is optimized for use with mouse and keyboard. What Apple could do is bring a touch optimized version of MacOS to iPad.
In gaming, price/performance ratio is crucial. Now performance is far away from actual consoles, and even there is not any sense in comparing it to PC in the price tag.
Agree!
🤣🤣🤣 Apple is so STUPID!!! They'll never be able to compete with Sony or Rockstar!!! Besides, Apple needs to stick to what they're good at; making phones and TVs.
So far the racing games are good
Name a few.
Price one arm and your choice of leg.😂
Sony needs competition they are taking advantage in the game industry selling consoles for $700 is crazy
Oh my God, yes! Please!!!!!!!
I would love to stick with Apple computers for my music production and still be able to game as well as PC owners. Please please please do this!
I also use Apple computers for music production but gaming? On my iPhone and iPad I play games (not great ones because there aren’t many available) to kill time. But if I want to play great games, I’ll stick to Nintendo and Sony.
They should focus on much needed hand held games. Apple is a little too late
A18 pro chip?
Give it an M4 at least?
A consol would be a flip phone for Samsung
Apple is wack it will flop hard, now Samsung would thrive especially with the Android
As interesting as it would be for Apple to try to make a gaming console, i really don’t think it would work. The products they already have are expensive (i have an iPhone and iPad. I’m not getting an Apple Watch), so i highly doubt anyone would wanna pay an arm and a leg for games they likely already have on other platforms. We all saw what happened with the Stadia.
as long as its affordable and has games both xbox and ps5 have they have a great opportunity for something big and cross platform as well.
Apples biggest problem is gamers as well as non gamers like to upgrade and everyone knows that Apple like to lock their stuff down making it non repairable or upgradable which makes them non desirable products, they lost a lot of sales because of their IPhones being locked from repair
Apple should probably focus on their phone's os and design rather than competing some other gaming console, anyway it will be another unsuccessful product again like apple vision pro no one buying
Why not use the m chip
Consoles are dead. They will probably focus on the games they have developed.
WTF are you talking about? In the first 4 years of its release PS5 sold almost 60 mil units, if you look at historical data in the same timeframe of other consoles release, PS5 is the best selling console. Consoles are not dead, you are just not paying attention. After Covid, gaming and by its extension console gaming ,became mainstream hoby.
According to information pc and Xbox sales/games revenue has declined while console has improved.
@@Nosko666exactly.
@@Nosko666definitely true
@@Nosko666great point
I make good money but I don’t buy things that do not benefit mines or my wife’s life
This is a world of money and money only. You have money you can buy everything anytime anywhere.
Don't get you're hopes up people look at there laptop it will play games amazing you get one. And it only plays like 3 games and it does not even do that good
If its Cloud Computing Apples going to fail
Make sure those Games are Downloadable and Keepable Apple
I’d play a Apple gaming console if it was great and worth it
Well isn't what's killing consoles now. Are the games coming out or not coming out? Looks good idea to have another way to play games. But I see the issue more being the games themselves.
This will be like 5K at launch and slowly trickle down to 1.5K and then every year after a new iteration 😂
My Mac mini was my emulator console
Offline games is what the people want
Nice
I hope they do
Apple Arcade game is full of boring and stupid casual games like card game, snake, candy crash type of games, temple run, cooking game, love story, talking tom, seriously?
Indeed. Apple Arcade is pointed towards mobile gamers who only shoot colored balls to other stacked balls or like to tap on a playing cards to see if they won a few coins that can be spend on more cards so that your brains turn to mush before you’re 30.
Maybe release an apple silicon powered handheld which wirelessly connects through a high bandwidth signal to a next apple tv style dock with the receiver portion of same chip. The dock should house a more GPU-centric APU chip to enhance the graphics. controllers for handheld should be detachable for motion vr gaming when connected to a vision pro. If i were apple this would be a way to make more money.
You describe the iPhone.
The PS1 didnt tank the PS1 sold 102 million units
He didn’t say that it tanked
Too late i got a RTX 4080 Super 😅
I'll stick with Playstation
They are late as behind as fuck on all innovations with their stupid restrictions on their store and expensive prices of their devices
The thing is. I’m a Mouse and Keyboard gamer. I hate the controllers. It’s not fast enough to move on certain games. But that’s me. That’s why I’m waiting on the new iMac Pro with the M4 AI chip installed.
Apple will announce a new iMac with M4 later this month. Release on November 1. Gurman also talks about an iMac Pro with 32” screen coming next year (probably with M4 Max or M4 Ultra chip). I still use my 27” Intel iMac. The current iMac M3 looks great, but the screen is only 24”. So I also wait for an iMac Pro
At only 500 USD a month 🦇👄🦇
If it doesn’t have some amazing 1st title launches than No….it won’t effect the gaming market at all….. No one needs to play COD on an apple device if they can already play it on a PS5 or Xbox….this is why Nintendo is winning …there 1st party games are always superb
No high-end triple A games in their right mind will port their games to apple. It's will be a horrible deal.
The Mac mini is already this.
Knowing Apple it's going to be more than 300 especially since Sony's offering $700 for a pro? And i believe every gaming console or PC should at least have one TB anything less than that you're probably just going to have one game or two
BlackRock has more or less killed modern games with their DEI bs. Good time to get in the market...
They want come close to Microsoft
let's do it
I HATE APPLE. I hate how nothing is compatible with it. the closed system is so stupid. whatever games they are gonna have are gonna be trash
lol “a beast of a gaming console” dude it’s a Mac mini. They just released the m4 Mac mini.
I don't have apple phone
If apple make gaming phone and mini pad gaming phone I might be changing my Android for good 👍
Plus how gaming things are going there’s a PlayStation and XBOX apps what if they set a app you can play those games on a Apple gaming console PlayStation already have rumors that PS6 will be the last physical console
Since the apple a4 chip apple is champion In gaming. They just remove very good games all the times from the app store. But having a risc processor with a couple of watts less than 25 is aeons better than a 400 Watt pc wasting energy. Best is Ps4 slim And xbox one s they use 50 watts and still deliver descend graphics and huge amount of games up to 190gb I think that's where apple can't deliver. Handhelds taking over with less than 20 watts of gaming
If it's going to offer console and PC games hell yes but if it's just going to offer iOS mobile games or streaming games then no. Also if it's going to be a gaming handheld micro SD card support something happened has never done on their tablets. Finally the price will have to be between an Apple TV and hey Mac mini.
If its wifi only it won't succeed
yes dammit Apple Mac mini with m4 chip and apple tv built in 1 tb to start and a 10 games launch that everyone likes ! the money they make from iphones alone would pay for it and then some!
The pipin 😊
iPod touch 4g first time mobile gaming and astonished till today nothing new. Before that the ps1 and before that gameboy and before that the atari2600
PLAYSTATION IS THE BEST AND ALWAYS WILL BE RIGHT NEXT TO NINTENDO AND SEGA.
If they can’t update they camera pixel wtf they going do with gaming fail move in the making
Apple doesn't resonate like it used to, their tech always a step behind and overpriced
If there console is affordable and the games have some kind of a subscription like on Xbox and PlayStation then it might be a gd idea and they work gd on there system then I can’t see nothing going wrong but it’s how much there going to cost for the console if it’s in the same price as any other console then it might be a gd thing for gaming but u need a gd storage and ram then I can’t see why it wouldn’t work only if they away of running the games through cloud storage then that would work for a small price for storage and the fact u can add more storage if and when required
Apple has the power to do it. I believe they could make a gaming console that could absolutely dominate PlayStation. I’m not gonna even talk about Xbox because they’re on life-support, but Apple has the technology to build the ultimate gaming console to rival the PlayStation 6 and the switch 2… Xbox they’re finished
Haha 😂 I like your sense of humor!
Bro apple is going to it will cost 40,000
a 8 pro 😂
Lmaoo apple is too late Xbox is A1 all you need is your controller and the app on apple 🤣 they slickly made us cloud game and we didn’t even notice and we love it! Can’t go back no lags you can even cloud online game
You maybe but i play with my rtx XD good luck apple o/ with .....mobile game
No one is going to buy it cause the ps5 and Xbox already pricy and u know what apple likes to do make everything cost a rent payment and probably have a system similar to ps+ and Xbox live but theirs is gonna be the price of a gas water electric and service bill
Gonna be overpriced and all the apple sheep will line up for miles to get it I'm good with my xbox series x for now and for next gen I'll get a PC
Xbox forever
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