Les Ateliers de Dytikoi Hellenai - #2 La fabrication du linothorax (armure de lin)

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  • @dimitriosamanatidis8576
    @dimitriosamanatidis8576 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    salutations
    depuis Grece!

  • @olivierolf7504
    @olivierolf7504 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    bonjour quel type de colle vous utilisez pour assembler les couches de lin ? au niveau historique on a une idée de la colle utiliser par les grecs ?

    • @dytikoihellenai1457
      @dytikoihellenai1457  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bonjour, a priori ça serait de la colle à os. Mais aujourd'hui nous utilisons de la colle blanche à bois car nous sommes plus dans une démarche de reconstitution que d'archéologie expérimentale. Merci pour votre question et à bientôt !

  • @prophetrexlexful8783
    @prophetrexlexful8783 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hii is there any historical finds or description how the shield is made historical correct?

    • @dytikoihellenai1457
      @dytikoihellenai1457  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi, you can see the first of our serie "les ateliers de dytikoi" sur la fabrication du bouclier : th-cam.com/video/uls6mnuED8k/w-d-xo.html
      We explain that our reconstruction shield is an interpretation because we are not lot of sources. Only bronzes shields are discovered in Olympia and north Italy and the other sources are on ceramics.

    • @prophetrexlexful8783
      @prophetrexlexful8783 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dytikoihellenai1457 Hii je ne comprends pas francaise excuse mois
      :(... Is this a historical method? because i do not think tehy usedplane wood boards ... (it would be a surprise for me)

    • @stanislaski17
      @stanislaski17 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@prophetrexlexful8783 no, it certainly wasn't modern plywood. But there's a glued laminated system approaching it when you look at some of the wooden cores of the shield remains. The other method is to carve directly into the wood, but this takes longer and is more expensive. Given that we're doing reenactment and not experimental archaeology, we've used modern techniques to obtain our aspis.

    • @prophetrexlexful8783
      @prophetrexlexful8783 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stanislaski17 so do you think the laminated wood wo glued over a round form? i mean they made a form and glued the wood over each other?

    • @stanislaski17
      @stanislaski17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@prophetrexlexful8783 I don't know, as is often the case with antiques, I don't think there are any clear-cut answers, but it's an interesting idea. It would avoid digging up the wood at the end of the assembly. But it would mean that the wood would have to be flexible enough to take the desired shape. But in the end, will the shield be as strong and effective for a phalanx? I think it all depends on how you design the weapon: is it a consumable shield, to be discarded after the first shock? Or is it a lifelong weapon?

  • @MarcRitzMD
    @MarcRitzMD หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why glued! There is no evidence for linothorax having been glued. Either twined linen or quilted linen cloth layers