This Great Game Was Cancelled By Hasbro (HeroScape) | Billiam

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  • @Gnoggin
    @Gnoggin ปีที่แล้ว +544

    I LOVED HeroScape as a kid. Traded figures with my friends who had different expansions. I still keep a few of them on a memorabilia shelf, and wish I hadn't gotten rid of the rest of it. 😢
    Also, love the krabby figure at 12:06, we did the same as kids! used our little Pokemon figurines in the game, even made them (overpowered) custom cards!

    • @WretchedRedoran
      @WretchedRedoran ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Holy crap, didn't expect you here.

    • @anongentry2269
      @anongentry2269 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This was one of the things I loved about it. If you had anything of the same scale you could custom proxy it into the game

    • @JcBravo8
      @JcBravo8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good news! Renegades is bringing back new Heroscape with the first being the AOA units and stretch, and a company called Scale is preparing their own Heroscape-esque inspired game. A new age for the game.

    • @Beelzeboogie
      @Beelzeboogie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@JcBravo8 It's weird that Renegade have essentially become Hasbro's clearing house for the properties they own but aren't sure about and don't want to slap their own name on, but I'm not complaining.

  • @Blandco
    @Blandco ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Also it is kinda hilarious that for a very brief time frame of about 6 months 7 years ago you could get D&D Heroscape miniatures for way cheaper than their D&D counterparts. So I have heroscape ogres and wyverns in my D&D collection.

  • @Delfino711
    @Delfino711 ปีที่แล้ว +623

    I never actually played the game as intended but damn did I love setting up terrain and acting out giant battles with all of the minis. One of my favorite childhood toys for sure

    • @YaBoiJonesy
      @YaBoiJonesy ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I did the same shit! It broke my heart when my parents sold it during a garage sale. I never knew what they were called till now!

    • @Delfino711
      @Delfino711 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@YaBoiJonesy If I had a dollar for every toy of mine that my parents sold at garage sales... I'd have about as much as they made selling it all lmao

    • @Mnkybyhndcrmp
      @Mnkybyhndcrmp ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruh same 😊

    • @ThatStupidSodaJerk
      @ThatStupidSodaJerk ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same. I underestimated as a kid having to do all the learning and teaching "how to play"
      but man it was such a cool idea. I actually got a two player set for warhammer for me and my nephew and I thought deep down how I wished it was heroscape.

    • @CupcakeSans
      @CupcakeSans ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Delfino711 lmao

  • @mt.libertybell9250
    @mt.libertybell9250 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    For anybody watching today, Heroscape is being rebooted and a brand new Master set and expansions are up for pre-order RIGHT NOW

    • @gevdarg
      @gevdarg 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Got mine! Can't wait for what's coming!!

  • @Watchful049
    @Watchful049 ปีที่แล้ว +204

    I never had much of the physical products that Billiam reviews but I do vividly remember a lot of the commercials. This channel is my entire childhood recorded through toys that I only saw in commercials that I wish I had.

    • @MexiHaro
      @MexiHaro ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mooooooood
      Just needs to start dping offbrand chinese knock offs for true childhood

    • @Watchful049
      @Watchful049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MexiHaro omg, this is true for me also except bootlegs pissed me off as a kid. I remember getting a GBA and wanting pokemon sapphire but we got a knock off that was a game boy color game and the game was a weird mystery dungeon rip off that had no save file. Then we got a pokemon diamond game at 2003 that was also for gameboy color and was the telefang game jontron covered in his bootleg pokemon games episode.

    • @tguit-fiddler5692
      @tguit-fiddler5692 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      same lol

    • @widgie161
      @widgie161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same!!! Poor kid :/

  • @Koopakid917543
    @Koopakid917543 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    I've spent so much time playing this game with my friends as a kid. We had hundreds of pieces and characters. I wish it was still being made

    • @cjmattrocks
      @cjmattrocks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's coming back, iirc Wotc bought it a year back

    • @Clarkzer0
      @Clarkzer0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@cjmattrocks It's not, they did an extremely poorly advertised and managed campaign for a Kickstarter esque run of a new expansion, and because of their self determination to not do anything genuinely exciting with the franchises they have access to, WoTC shelved it due to a lack of interest or buzz, interest or buzz it is their responsibility to cultivate. The project and franchise as a whole have been shelved indefinitely and there aren't plans for another attempt at a reboot, even one as poor as the one from about a year ago.

    • @Sablus
      @Sablus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Clarkzer0 it's back again

  • @krakentoast
    @krakentoast ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I LOVED HeroScape. It also got me into Warhammer and minature building. It really helped a lot with my ADHD along chess and RTS games.

    • @cdogthehedgehog6923
      @cdogthehedgehog6923 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did it help with adhd? I mean, i play games and dnd and chess and my adhd can be annoying for it.

    • @userequaltoNull
      @userequaltoNull ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@cdogthehedgehog6923 Habits.

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@userequaltoNull I can see it. The required repetition for doing turns and keeping track of when to do what could help train the brain to keep such things in mind for other tasks.

    • @cdogthehedgehog6923
      @cdogthehedgehog6923 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@userequaltoNull How does having habits help adhd

  • @botluckproductions
    @botluckproductions ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Those hex pieces are gold in the tabletop wargaming scene. Especially with Battletech, as that game uses hex bases.
    Also, Billiam, Battletech is another neat war game to try. It had a Saturday morning TV Show...and video games.

    • @VictorSteiner
      @VictorSteiner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought 5-8 Heroscape starter boxes and threw away all the figures because I only wanted it as Battletech terrain. Now, 5 years later, with a 4 year old son, I kinda regret the decision A BIT but I needed the space :D

    • @botluckproductions
      @botluckproductions ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@VictorSteiner look on the bright side. 3D printers are a thing

    • @VictorSteiner
      @VictorSteiner ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@botluckproductions I had two Prusas before I became a father (time left at that time) and used Dragonlock files to create my own wood hexes for Battletech. Cool but time intensive.

    • @botluckproductions
      @botluckproductions ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VictorSteiner That's fair. I use a resin printer. Between time and chemicals...yeah. At the very least, there are options to get similar figures. At least mostly

    • @petercampi2840
      @petercampi2840 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Battletech is older than WH40K, but way more accessible and much better designed as a war game. Now if only we could get redistributions of the Battletech spin-offs, like BattleTroops and BattleForces.

  • @ratchetxtreme6591
    @ratchetxtreme6591 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    Can’t believe Hasbro would rob us like that 😞

    • @Azurite_D
      @Azurite_D ปีที่แล้ว +44

      With what they've done to mtg and dnd I'm no at all surprised lol

    • @farkasmactavish
      @farkasmactavish ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Really? You really can't believe it? It's inconceivable that the greediest hobby company on the face of the planet Earth would do something like that?

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@farkasmactavish "greediest hobby company on the face of the planet Earth"
      That would be Games Workshop, RIP TTS

    • @imaloony8
      @imaloony8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I can.

    • @donnylurch4207
      @donnylurch4207 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​​​@@farkasmactavish I was there. At the time, they hadn't completely sold their players out, though the D&D Heroscape series made it clear they had little faith to invest in brands other than their core. Some of the best MtG sets ever had yet to come out when Scape changed hands to Wizards, well before the days of Secret Lair bloat and 30th Anniversary Edition.

  • @nazgullord357
    @nazgullord357 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Bro, you just unlocked a core memory for me. I never had any of the sets, but one of my best friends did, and we played the crap out of it. Good times... Thank you for this awesome video.

  • @TMoney699
    @TMoney699 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Renegade Game Studios is bringing it back 100% official. March 1 will be a virtual con where they'll show off the first wave and pre-orders open.

  • @SuzuRadio
    @SuzuRadio ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I PLAYED THIS GAME WHEN I WAS A KID!! I kept trying to describe it to friends and they wouldn't believe me or thought I was just confusing settlers of Catan and a different game and you just vindicated me 🎉

  • @honestelfling8418
    @honestelfling8418 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Holy Crap this is what its called?! Dude I have vague memories of playing this but I could never remember what it was called. That's insane. Thanks for bringing this sweet childhood memory out into the open for me!

  • @saffronvenom7152
    @saffronvenom7152 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My older brother used to have an entire huge tote of heroscape hexagons and figures. When he was sent away years ago because of my mother, he left behind all of that. I never understood how the game worked, but I thought the skeletal and robotic figures looked neat, and I would always associate heroscape with my brother. He died almost 5 years ago now, and a few years after that when I was evicted I couldn't take the tote with me (I hope my younger brother has it at least). When I saw your community post teasing this video, I got very teary eyed, and seeing the video now has brought back many memories of my brother. I don't know if you'll ever see this, but thank you for making this video Billiam, it helped me remember how he was, and how he'd want me to keep going forward.

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats rough. Through i hope your younger brothe really has a memory there. And thr whatever your community , sounds rough, alo sounds he was a great guy , :(
      An GL forward with anything

  • @Syncopiia
    @Syncopiia ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've played a lot of tabletop games but Heroscape is by far my favorite, simply because it fires off every neuron in my ADHD brain. I've spent thousands over the years gathering up terrain and figures, making custom stuff from things I bought at hobby and pet stores, painting figures, printing out cards made by myself and the folks on Heroscapers (thousands of playtested custom figures available). Just a few weeks ago my brother and I played a game on a large map. I was playing Godzilla, destroying trees and castle walls, stomping around and firing lasers. He was playing Guts from Berserk, Samus Aran, the Doom Slayer, Megumin from Konosuba (he kept using giant explosions on Ziller) and some airdrop soldiers. It can be as ridiculous as you want, and I love making it a game of wish fulfillment. My friends and I were really bummed out by the reboot failure, because I just wanted it to be affordable again. I was lucky and got in when it was still cheap. Here's to hoping they try one more time.

  • @GrottoGoblin
    @GrottoGoblin ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I've never felt more seen on a niche topic that only I ever seemed to know about in my local community/family/etc. This game started the ball rolling on so many things for me. I barely got the chance to fully play the game as intended; but it was fun, the mechanics of the board were fantastic, and the IP has so much potential. Some of my favorite memories surround this game, not just in playing but in how it game to me--through gifts from my parents. We didn't have a ton of money, so each time I was able to get new sets of this game it was a big deal...and it happened rarely. Eventually, I grew up and the game got cancelled. I still hadn't gotten everything, and I felt robbed. I continued to collect where I could, and have since gotten most of the things released that weren't rare release items. I supplemented my collection with D&D minis, which tracked given it literally went into the D&D IP before shutting down; and that catapulted me into actually getting into D&D, miniature painting, and other TTRPG communities. I write, paint, and I do all these things that bring joy to my life today because of this game that got cancelled too soon.
    I thought, or rather hoped, for a brief moments seeing Hasbro and WotC using the hex tiles in their Magic the Gathering boardgames that maybe, maybe something could be in the works for this IP...then years went by and I lost some of that hope again. Then, relatively recently, they made a crowdfunding campaign to bring the game back under a new company. I had gotten back some of that excitement and hope, but then I saw how they were doing it. They launched it on a private, Hasbro only crowdfunding site, with bare minimum or less promotion. They set their goal not based on money raised, but on backer volume--and the volume they requested was beyond what most popular crowdfunding sites can expect on any given campaign...and, again, this was not a popular crowdfunding site. So, predictably, it failed. It failed, and they had it set to an all or nothing model. So we got nothing, and we get nothing. All that work that the company trying to get the game made had done was wasted. Is wasted. And it's not their fault. The publisher, Hasbro, twice now has fumbled this wonderful IP. It truly is a shame.
    I plan on making a video about this some day, but in the meantime it is great to see content like this covering a game that could have been up there with all the other great table top games only to be doomed by corporate ineptitude.

  • @lanceams483
    @lanceams483 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    definitely feel like if I got into Heroscape as a kid I would have obsessed over it given what I was already obsessed with as a kid. Heroscape gives me the same vibes as old fire emblem and advance wars (or an amalgamation of the two) but in a figurine/toy setting.

  • @IzzysIssues
    @IzzysIssues ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Heroscape is what set me on the path to being up to my eyeballs in wargames today. I still have all the dice, cards, and minis but have no idea where all the terrain is 💔 glad that this game is still getting some love.
    I was surprised that you didn't mention the pseudo-revival that was Arena of the Planeswalkers, in which Hasbro made a flatter, more cardboard Heroscape game focusing on the main characters of Magic and with unpainted squads

  • @recnepsrc
    @recnepsrc ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I remember having the Marvel one as a kid, but none of the others. I was honestly a little too young to fully grasp all the rules and stuff, so mostly I just liked building terrain for the rest of my action figures to be on lol.

  • @MissingNoFilms
    @MissingNoFilms ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Heroscape is one of my all time favorite games, thank you for bringing it the attention it deserves!

  • @CrimsenOverlordVideos
    @CrimsenOverlordVideos ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I'm surprised you didn't mention the Magic the Gathering game that used the Heroscape hexes and ideas from a few years ago. I bought several of the sets because they felt like diet Heroscape but with a deck building aspect. I think it was Wizards' final attempt at doing something with the brand.

    • @Surelockohms
      @Surelockohms ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That was a great game.

    • @Oxygen1004
      @Oxygen1004 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What is it called? That sounds really fun

    • @Shiggedy
      @Shiggedy ปีที่แล้ว

      Was waiting for him to mention it. I was lucky enough to find a used copy for five bucks a few years back. You can tell that Hasbro really scaled down the production value, with most of the terrain being printed on cardboard (still with the kinda puzzle-piece edges of HS sets tho) and a total of three plastic terrain components, with mostly unpainted minis.
      Solid game though.

    • @NoNoNah306
      @NoNoNah306 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CrimsenOverlordVideos For some reason a few years back in england a heap of them turned up dirt cheap in the discount supermarket chain Aldi, it's the reason I've played it and a few people I know have as well.

  • @ClayHales
    @ClayHales ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This brings back memories of the early days of the Heroscape community. You've got the craft store terrain and custom minis. You just need the hunt for new expansions, going to every Walmart, Target and Toys R Us outside of reasonable driving in hopes of finding the newly released minis and terrain.

  • @Skizzix_
    @Skizzix_ ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Man its honestly really awesome to see you cover this game, its to this day one of my all time favorites and I occasionally still play tournaments for it! I'm still torn on the whole crowdfunding campaign as I think even if they didn't handle it the greatest getting some new terrain especially the jungle stuff at a less insane cost would have been great and overall the campaign was handled very poorly and had too high of a goal. Frankly I don't fully know what the cost of of printing the game would have been but I can't help but feel the 1 million that they raised would have been pretty close if not actually there, and that was them doing a campaign that had only the all in option with no ability to just get the new figures or buy extra of the terrain. At $250 only people who played the original would likely buy in, if they had a paired down version for $100 or so with less terrain and minis they might have had some better success and they could have gotten away with it with the amount of stuff that was going to be in that package.
    But the game will likely continue to limp along through people playing it online and people like me who 3d print the characters now that we have high quality scans of everything. But I can't help but feel like there is a gap in the wargaming market for a game like heroscape, something fast playing, easy to learn, but gains depth through its highly customizable nature.

  • @SurvivorsQuest1
    @SurvivorsQuest1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Rob Daviau is a God of board game design. My mind was blown when I learned he helped develop Heroscape

  • @joshuadenning4062
    @joshuadenning4062 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "I don't have the money for Warhammer, give me Poor-hammer" Iconic.

  • @kellysmith1728
    @kellysmith1728 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had this as a kid! Unfortunately I was the only one in my family that was both nerdy and patient enough to actually want to *play* it, so these huge gameboards would sit barely used for like a week at a time

  • @ethangilbert130
    @ethangilbert130 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm surprised to see no mention of Magic The Gathering Arena of the Planeswalkers Game which was almost 100% an attempt at a heroscape like game. It actually had some really cool mechanics with the spell cards you could play on your turn.

  • @maratuzero
    @maratuzero 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Surprised there was no mention of the MTG boardgame that used the line of sight, had a flattened board that mimicked the tile design, and shipped with 3-6 heroscape tiles

  • @jakeryker3751
    @jakeryker3751 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Man I loved this game. Did you know that recently Hasbro tried to kickstart a Heroscape revival? Unfortunately it didn’t hit its goal so it was abandoned. I blame it being a rather niche hobby to begin with and the kickstarter just being too expensive for casual fans. There weren’t very many tier options and I think each pledge had to be about 250ish dollars.

    • @shadowmetroid18
      @shadowmetroid18 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was a good deal for the price but the price was too high.
      If they had done it on kickstarter wirh a 100 dollar tier they could have made it happen.

    • @Sulucion6Tone
      @Sulucion6Tone ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Non painted models with ugly ass bright colors - Overpriced Everything; Not being able to purchase individual items for people that already have to many sets. They screwed up big time on the relaunch.

    • @boinkmcbingo8890
      @boinkmcbingo8890 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Large companies shouldn't attempt to crowdfund I'm glad it didn't hit it's goal

    • @Scapemaster00
      @Scapemaster00 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Coming in over a year later, playing the new Heroscape with Renegade games is so much nostalgia

  • @selfaware7617
    @selfaware7617 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    From the bottom of my heart man. You provide me with such comfort within these niche topics. I mean it's like listening to a close friend speak endlessly about things that define them. Your channel is one in a million. I love watching

  • @muddy5013
    @muddy5013 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I recently found my box of heroscape and was looking at the rules to get my friends to play. Still meaning to do a game. I used to love playing this with my family.

  • @sarrenwakk
    @sarrenwakk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My family plays monthly heroscape games! During the peak, we owned almost every expansion set spare ONE. Then, we started buying multiple copies of the starter/expansion sets, and honestly it's a mainstay in our family engagements. We've even made custom characters with custom stats and figures over the years. This game is fantastic and if you've never played it, and find a set at reasonable price, i promise you won't regret it.

  • @LynkCableTv
    @LynkCableTv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I hope Billiam covers more Heroscape as Renegade Game Studios is reviving the franchise with new sets.

  • @renderance3551
    @renderance3551 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And now today Renegade game studios has announced they will be producing a new set.

  • @whyishoudini
    @whyishoudini ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Marvel set makes me think this could have been the Fortnite of war gaming lol

  • @DIA-gi9qh
    @DIA-gi9qh ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember just screwing around with my older brothers figurines I didn't even realize this is what it was. single handly the hardest nostalgia trip I've ever had

  • @PortSDG
    @PortSDG ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you're a real one for this video, heroscape ruled so hard when I was a kid

  • @jacobengland6443
    @jacobengland6443 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I won’t lie, the last week I’ve been trying to remember the name of a specific game I played at a friends house as a kid when lo and behold my man Billiam comes in swinging with this blast from the past! Thanks for helping me remember this game

  • @sonicsega6
    @sonicsega6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember having the marvel version of this... I didn't actually play the game, I just played with the figures

  • @alexanderkracinovich6123
    @alexanderkracinovich6123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had Heroscape when I was a kid too. I had forgotten what it was called until this video. Thank you for reminding me.

  • @TriTomMaximum
    @TriTomMaximum ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was one of my favorite board/tabletop games of all time. When I got out of college, I found it in my childhood storage, asked my girlfriend and some friends to play it, and we all had a blast.

  • @charleajustice7687
    @charleajustice7687 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm so happy that you did a video covering this game!!! Me and my brothers played it all the time as kids. Our oldest brother bought us almost all of the expansion packs. I also remember chewing on like 90% of the characters 😂

  • @dust.runner
    @dust.runner ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This game seems really neat. It's great that the fans are still supporting it (and that the devs made it so that it could be 'modded' for lack of a better word).
    Also, a 30-40min base game for a complex tabletop like this seems pretty rare. Even more so with the concept of doing longer games being a thing too. Pretty great!
    If it wasn't so expensive to collect it'd probably be a good entry tabletop. I would love to play it someday.

    • @shadowmetroid18
      @shadowmetroid18 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you can play it on tabletop sim. You lack the tactile experience but it's still a way to play.

    • @dust.runner
      @dust.runner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shadowmetroid18 oh nice!

  • @TheFormidibleDan
    @TheFormidibleDan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Poorhammer sure captures a lot of the good chaos of tabletop wargames, but for me a big appeal on the hobby is the customization of building and painting your own army. I'm a big fan of that part, especially when I lack the time to drum up players and set up a battle.

  • @scoobydoo23320
    @scoobydoo23320 ปีที่แล้ว +1032

    Dear Billiam I know you like talking about Scooby Doo. But feel free to skip Velma. It is not worth your sanity. And I think everyone would agree, we are much happier to see you talk about something that makes you happy rather than suffer through Velma just to have covered all of Scooby Doo media.

    • @murderalphabetinc.5162
      @murderalphabetinc.5162 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      It might as well not be a Scooby Doo property; it doesn't have Scooby Doo.

    • @usagiwerd6664
      @usagiwerd6664 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's not that bad the first few episode was the worst by the end it got alright people hate way to hard amd bandwagon without watching it all

    • @crunchy4702
      @crunchy4702 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@usagiwerd6664 hey if it’s not good in the first few episodes it’s not worth my time

    • @crunchy4702
      @crunchy4702 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He did review all Scooby-Doo media Velma doesn’t count

    • @usagiwerd6664
      @usagiwerd6664 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Crunchy hey that's totaly acceptable but if billiam watches it he gonna watch all of it and call eveyone out for the bandwagon of hate . So I don't want him proving yall wrong . Straight out not for me but by the end it was a scooby doo media and was very scooby doo style

  • @nickschwartz8793
    @nickschwartz8793 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Heroscape is coming back in 2024.

  • @L33Reacts
    @L33Reacts ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude I had this as a kid! I totally forgot about it till now. It never came out of my closet unless I was using the “land” pieces for some other random game or activity 😂

  • @LordRedland
    @LordRedland ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This brings back a lot of good memories setting up two tables side by side to play with friends in middle school. I would build one map to cover an entire table during the week, plotting out every tile placement, and then play games with every single piece we had on the weekends. I still have all my sets, but these days we use them for other games like D&D when we get them out of storage.

  • @ninja34744
    @ninja34744 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I never got to play Heroscape and honestly it looks very cool. They should put out a digital version, I'd buy it.

    • @ninja34744
      @ninja34744 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I feel this about 40k too now that I think about it. Why do none of these wargames have virtual versions?

    • @caesarsgaming3888
      @caesarsgaming3888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cuz OTT makes too much money. But there is always tabletop simulator.

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ninja34744 Honestly bringing up virtual warhammer brings up the obvious reason why: Doing a virtual tabletop version of the rules would bite into the true market value for getting you to buy the models and rulebooks and occasional other paraphernalia related to the game itself. At the end of the day, Citadel/Games Workshop is a model company first and foremost. TRPGs like DND or Shadowrun tend to get away with virtual adaptations as those tend to be more like computerized DMs for a scenario using the rulesets, or something like Battletech vs Mechwarrior or the World of Darkness set games which are drastic genre shifts despite focused on similar aspects of the source material.
      TL;DR the reason we get Space Marine and Dawn of War is because Virtual 8th or 9th Edition would mean noone would spend a good 100+ bucks per edition. The fact that the start of 10th is doing virtual rules at the start for all factions is a bit of a miracle and 'where's the catch' sorta move tbh.

    • @charlx8979
      @charlx8979 ปีที่แล้ว

      This game has a mod for it for tabletop simulator. Its good shit.

  • @nana-rt6zt
    @nana-rt6zt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for this video billiam it's been so long since my friends literally gaslight me into thinking this didn't exist you have no idea how much i'm shaking and crying rn

  • @JuniperMe
    @JuniperMe ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was interested in the new Heroscape, I never had the original but it looked great. In Australia, the Hasbro distributer wanted around $750 for the campaign pledge!! Kinda ruled it out for me.

  • @CocoHutzpah
    @CocoHutzpah ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my buddies in elementary school got Heroscape when it first released. We played it several times and I remember really enjoying it. Then a few years later, another buddy introduced 40k to me. After I graduated college, I gained a crippling addiction to Guardsmen. Heroscape was a gateway drug to Warhammer.

  • @NoahDaArk
    @NoahDaArk ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Oh my gosh… I REMEMBER THIS!
    Okay I never actually played it, but I remember seeing an ad for it in Boys Life back when I was in Boy Scouts! It was an epic fold out ad that showed an epic battle unfolding! So cool!

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    0:17 Maybe not but having an old-fashioned rice cooker to try to seal demons with is.

  • @wanderingalfir3563
    @wanderingalfir3563 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can't wait for the full Heroscape playthrough to come out on Billiam B Sides!

  • @mamluk2003
    @mamluk2003 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video helped me end a search i didnt think would ever end, i moved into a house way back when i was younger, and a bunch of the tiles and units from this game were left behind but no instructions or anything that could've told me what they were, and now more than 12+ years later i know them again, thank you!

  • @dungeonbrownies
    @dungeonbrownies ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i played heroscape once and it's ultra friendly and approachable, it's great!

  • @austinhunter3770
    @austinhunter3770 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When he said " I don't have the money for warhammer, give me some of that poor hammer" dam I felt that 🤣

  • @energyhammer
    @energyhammer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    FREAK YEAH, HEROSCAPE WAS NOICE

  • @theshamurai32
    @theshamurai32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got into 40k within the last couple years and couldn't help but feel it was waaaay too familiar for some reason. Then you unlocked the memory, I was obsessed with this game summer of 05 but was homeschooling at the time so when school started nobody had time to play it and I dropped the game. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My childhood next door neighbor had a game similar Heroscape. I have no clue what it was and barely remember anything about it. I think it might have been Mighty Empires by Games Workshop though.

  • @murasakibebeby3127
    @murasakibebeby3127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanted to get into heroscape. But my dad just took 1 look at it. Saw it as dungeons and dragons. And told me no. He wasn't going to have his son turn into some basement hermit. That was a very sad day for me. Locked out of something great forever.

  • @abrinkley7
    @abrinkley7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved heroscape as a kid you brought so many memories back

  • @HurricaneDDragon
    @HurricaneDDragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This continues to reign supreme as the ultimate “Oh yeah, I vaguely remember that!” channel.

  • @mdxque8393
    @mdxque8393 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still have a couple sets of this game. It’s a pretty fun game.

  • @magickmeat8763
    @magickmeat8763 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Dad became a collector of HeroScape near the end of its production and bought countless boxes for a few bucks each from every local store that had one as they were all phased out. We, quite literally, have an entire wall of our basement with hundreds of HeroScape products. I can only imagine how much money is just a few feet away from my bedroom door. When we were kids he let us open and play with the Marvel set, base starter set, and a few booster boxes, my siblings and I loved this game. We even introduced it to a friend we were growing up with at the time who ended up putting countless hours into it just like us! HeroScape is awesome man, great video.

  • @ptgia1301
    @ptgia1301 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't believe they put Humbaba in but snubbed Enkidu. Now how's Gilgamesh gonna beat the bull of heaven? 0 cedar trees out of 10

  • @scaperstory
    @scaperstory ปีที่แล้ว +2

    someone needs to let billiam know heroscape is BACK!!!

  • @KreuzDrache
    @KreuzDrache ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Man, I remember seeing these in a storeroom of Toys R Us back when they hold YGO events.
    Definitely feels like I missed out on this game, I love the idea of mashing different groups from species and timelines together to fight it out in a war-like setting. Also dinosaurs and dragons.
    Definitely missed out on this. 😔

  • @donnylurch4207
    @donnylurch4207 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I *looooved* Heroscape, man! It came out the same year I started high school, and my dad would gift me the original Master Set for Christmas in 2005 or 2006. I had to catch up on earlier waves by begging my parents to order a butt-ton of them from an online retailer, but looking at the prices today, I'd say I made a good call! My best friends and I would stay up at one house for entire weekends to party and hang around games of Heroscape. It was so much fun, but I haven't built a map and played in over 10 years.
    I'm actually getting into Warhammer 40K now as an outlet for my love of miniature painting. It *is* expensive, but it's got me looking at that nearly complete Heroscape collection and seeing dollar signs... I would not mind letting it go if it meant funding another expensive, space-consuming hobby.

  • @Azurenere
    @Azurenere ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Literally started this game again with a friend a few weeks ago. Super fun of Tabletop Simulator where I can finally build the epic maps of my childhood dreams.
    Rest in peace Scape. You were too pure for this world.

  • @T4silly
    @T4silly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy hell I LOVED HeroScape as a kid. Thank you so much for covering it!

  • @shardgunner4815
    @shardgunner4815 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Billiam, idk if there any chance of you ever seeing this. But I've loved Heroscape with all my heart since I was a child. They are finally relaunching Heroscape. It doesn't have a lot of coverage, and I just thought if you could do a follow up it might inspire people to come back to the game. It's such a fun experience, and I'd love for kids of this generation to get a shot at playing it 💞💞💞

  • @Cloudindustries
    @Cloudindustries 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Update: Hasbro Pulse is releasing new Heroscape stuff this year!

  • @YanAde
    @YanAde ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you so much for this video

  • @kyumigames
    @kyumigames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im not seeing the giant florida battle on your other channel. I am disappointed. I was excited to watch it.

  • @HazardWolfCorp
    @HazardWolfCorp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss this game SO much, i had the original main box i got it at a flea market when i was like 14, absolutely obsessed with it for YEARS, here i am 32 and wishing i still had my set.

  • @BlueDavrial
    @BlueDavrial ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great vid Billiam! I remember my dad using HeroScape tiles for his HeroClix games. You should totally cover HeroClix too Billiam. It's completely marvel-centric but very similar and lot more characters as well as a really neat in-session character progression built into the base of each hero. My favorite that i still remember is how the Hulk starts each match as one of the worst units in the game, because he's actually Bruce Banner, and only turns into the hulk after a turn or two at which point his stats get crazy

  • @HeroQuestFans
    @HeroQuestFans 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Renegade Studios finally revealed the info on their take on the franchise...

  • @grandlancer
    @grandlancer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn, I never heard about that resurrection attempt. I still have my Heroscape collection and would've jumped in to something like that. On a separate note Schleich makes great animals and dinosaurs that are pretty good size for HS. I used to get these from Target for custom characters.

  • @CRANTIME
    @CRANTIME ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forever PO'd that I got Heroscape for Christmas, never had anyone to try it out with and then it was given away after I left for college.
    I never got to play it once...

  • @80LittleJohn13
    @80LittleJohn13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, I remember this game. This is a lot of fun. We would play for about six hours. On average we had eight of us, and we all chipped in to buy all the expansion packs so we actually had a place where we had tables where we had the lava and the ice almost all the expansions. It was even fun as that my daughter at the time was about seven and she enjoyed the game too now she is in her 20s.

  • @khudspeth6467
    @khudspeth6467 ปีที่แล้ว

    I literally never got into this game when it was going, never even really knew it existed. Not only is this a great video created with love and amazing entertainment value (in terms of your video quality and sound quality/effects) but also it's totally well researched and affectionate without being condescending. Can't wait to check out the rest of your content!

  • @CrimsonOptics
    @CrimsonOptics ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought I was the only person who grew up with these sets as a kid. I loved Heroscape, however I was also a dumb child. I remember intentionally losing the hero cards and just playing with the figures on the terrain making my own stories. And the models were so sick.

  • @nerfdude1129
    @nerfdude1129 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IT'S BACK!!! Renegade Games has taken up the publishing rights, and the first new wave is set to release in August '24!

  • @danluna8840
    @danluna8840 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool walkthrough on heroe scape. Here’s one of the best things we found to help with the never ending problem of not enough field to play on . The hex is 1.75” across so, we printed hex patterns on colored craft paper and laminated them. This allows for a huge base so that the rest can be used for terrain shaping. A real time saver in general.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:45 Lúcio is the one with a buff aura and only a speed buff aura as part of his crossfade ability (his passive is running along walls), Mercy just heals and her passive makes her heals heal her as well.

  • @vo1non
    @vo1non หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Thanks for making it. I’m a Heroscaper from ever since it was first released, and still own 95 percent of everything ever made for it. It is, by far one helluva game for young and old!

  • @ScarletSpartan_
    @ScarletSpartan_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still have all of my childhood figures. Could never get enough of this as a kid. It reminded me of Heroes of Might & Magic III, which I also grew up with.

  • @DalirKRuiz
    @DalirKRuiz ปีที่แล้ว

    "The windows vista of D&D" OMFG what a way to put it I love it I will use it from now on.
    This has been one of my favorites videos ever WTH that's hard to accomplish considering so many of this channel's videos are my hardcore favorites already wow.

  • @TheZatrahc
    @TheZatrahc ปีที่แล้ว

    Heroscape was a gigantic deal in my childhood. Online games are great, but getting together in a room with people who I didn't know, playing a game together, and learning how to just be a social person changed the way I went about life general. I was active on the forum, and wound up begging my parents to drive me 2-3 hours to go to tournaments on a regular basis. Playing in those game stores was one of the only things I had when I was 13 that I could feel really good about. I was the weird kid who got picked on, and having a community like the heroscapers one around allowed me to feel less like a freal and more like just a nerd.
    Shout outs to the heroscapers in MD and PA, you guys were a really positive impact on my life.

  • @Danivan444
    @Danivan444 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was the kid from the neighborhood that had Heroscape and one gameplay could take us an entire Sunday. We would gather roughly 8 of us and start playing at noon and would finish by 8pm. Whoever got eliminated wouldn't stay until the end so sometimes we wouldn't find out who won until the next day. It was awkward for me when I got eliminated early and it was my bedtime but two of my friends were still battling it out in my living room.

  • @zattack87
    @zattack87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My High school friends and I made custom character cards using Hero Clix and other figs, this game dominated many of my weekends in the early 2000's.

  • @wattrus6077
    @wattrus6077 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a kid I wasn’t allowed to play fantasy games. I had to give a friend at school money to buy me D&D books which were promptly hidden. I always saw heroscape at the store and wanted it. Always thought id just buy it when I got older…

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVED the base set my buddy and I had as a kid. I still have the terrain and minis for use with other TTRPGs

  • @PhyreSpore
    @PhyreSpore ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man my friends at church had this! Seeing the video they had a LOT of the expansions too! It was our post-church go-to game for a while. I'm glad you did a video on it.

  • @MissAshley42
    @MissAshley42 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a board game enjoyer in my childhood, 20-something-year-old me thought Heroscape was rad as hell! The rules may have been simpler than other miniatures games, but they still allowed for engaging strategies. Also, the modular design made assembling battlefields fun in itself. I still have my base set and a few unit packs to this day.
    My main issues with the game are balancing and average playtime. A handful of units are so broken that they are must-picks, and sadly, some of the coolest looking units, like the mech, aren't among them. As for playtime, I quickly realized that with every player taking at least 5 minutes a turn, and with three turns per round, a single round with just four players would take at least an hour. I don't know if this kind of time commitment is standard for the genre, but it can be a slog if you have a bad turn or round early on.
    Still, this game rules, I didn't buy enough, and I wish it would come back (and stay back).

  • @blastingsound
    @blastingsound ปีที่แล้ว

    4:29 is literally the most vivid recreation of the ONLY memory I have of this game ... twas about 2004/5 idr, but my friend had a birthday/sleepover and he got this as a present. Now all of us were Hype af to play it.... but after seeing there were not 1, not 2, but 3 instruction manuals...
    this is pretty much what it cultivated into X,D
    on the side ... you have no idea what old great emotions you elicited with those old school AIM chatroom noises

  • @jeffreese1828
    @jeffreese1828 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi , Billiam and Savanah , my first vid of yours . I was watching some board game vids , then a Heroscape , then yours .
    Wow , you're real energetic , man , but I STILL liked the vid ! Lol
    The Fla. and PC references were funny , and I been there lots when I was younger , long ago , alas .... I only live about 1.5 hrs north of PC in Alabama .
    ANYWAY, I am Heroscape fan too , but I was a grown man when it came out . A grown man with a decent job .
    Man , I bought every single set made in the original run . The last things were that lame D&D "starter set" and finally I broke down and bought that jungle terrain set online cos its the one thing I missed in stores . BUT , it was only a little higher cos it was way back then . I think there were 9 (maybe 7)4 pack expansion Waves , 3-4 Large Figure packs , Lava and Ice terrain set , that Castle , the special dice and deluxe banner guys for each Lord , or Gods , or whatever they were supposed to be , a couple of Bridge/Tree and the two PROPER Starter Sets . Well been a long time since I've had anyone to play it , but I still break it all out and set up some cool battles doing my best for whoever's turn it is and dig checking out all the figs , cards and special abilities of the figs . I remember there's one who looks like a robot and he can walk into a crowd and SELF DETONATE creating a circle of devastation !
    (Course , it can only do that ONCE ! lol )
    Lotta fun , but not for casual gamers that get excited over , say , Parchesi or Monopoly .
    While not "hard" there IS a lot to be learned and sorta retained and that can be daunting . Brought back a few memories... thanks .
    Y'all have fun !

  • @kyubimage9526
    @kyubimage9526 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ITS BACK ITS BACK ITS BACK
    And it works with the old stuff!!