How Honey Scammed Everyone on YouTube

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  • In this video I discuss the honey affiliate link and coupon code scam that was exposed by MegaLag
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  • @hectorchikomba7670
    @hectorchikomba7670 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1119

    This is totally unacceptable. I will discuss this with my BetterHelp therapist as soon as i get back from visiting my plot of land in Scotland!

    • @hamzerpanzer
      @hamzerpanzer 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +109

      Wistfully staring at your fractional share of a piece of art as you ponder the magnitude of this situation

    • @oskark312
      @oskark312 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      i hope this comment abaut BetterHelp is ironic

    • @Gilannun12
      @Gilannun12 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +30

      @oskark312 don't worry it bleeds irony.

    • @poisonouspotato1
      @poisonouspotato1 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @oskark312 it is

    • @pavwi
      @pavwi 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      safe trip home, Lord Hectorchkomba7670!

  • @user-wv8ni3xd9c
    @user-wv8ni3xd9c 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1716

    I'm disappointed to find out Honey isn't a Honeypot.

    • @realchiknuggets
      @realchiknuggets 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      true

    • @vrrooooommmm123
      @vrrooooommmm123 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +25

      Five Eyes must be affiliated ain’t no way!!!!

    • @fractaltinker
      @fractaltinker 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      L(MAOZEDONG) yea

    • @PhilippBlum
      @PhilippBlum 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

      Depends on the perspective, I guess.

    • @pajeetsingh
      @pajeetsingh 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Peter The Eal.

  • @nm_9_
    @nm_9_ 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +734

    "And your really only going to hear about it if the sponsor is scamming the creators as well" this hits hard

    • @AndrewBrownK
      @AndrewBrownK 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

      Its sooooo true

    • @I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS
      @I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +27

      So tired of all these scumbags, they're so phony on top of everything. Just blocked most of their channels.

    • @PCorNPC
      @PCorNPC 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS same here

    • @Jeffcrocodile
      @Jeffcrocodile 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      they are not really victims here, they get the sponsorship money.

    • @Clownacy
      @Clownacy 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      you're

  • @Gilannun12
    @Gilannun12 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +721

    Yup, the only reason youtubers call it "biggest scandal on yt" is because it hits their wallets, they will shill any garbage service for a pouch of silvers. Trust no one

    • @rushyscoper1651
      @rushyscoper1651 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      the thing its scam everyone involve in the chain and even ppl who aren't, it some point this no scam it does to theft/hack

    • @mariokarter13
      @mariokarter13 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

      Nearly 10 years ago, "free speech" TH-camrs promoted an app designed to train an algorithm to be more effective at censorship. It was called Candid.

    • @Melpheos1er
      @Melpheos1er 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I don't know if this is the biggest scandal but clearly this is a major scam from Paypal who clearly stole commissions from hundreds of youtubers.
      They should definitely be sued with a class action lawsuit

    • @interstellarsurfer
      @interstellarsurfer 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Honey is a scam, brought to you by RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS! 🤣

    • @interstellarsurfer
      @interstellarsurfer 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Melpheos1er *sad violin noises*

  • @nothingtoseehere449
    @nothingtoseehere449 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +707

    this is why use sponsor block I had no idea honey was running this scam.

    • @Skelterbane69
      @Skelterbane69 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +135

      Spreading the good word of sponsorblock

    • @muizzsiddique
      @muizzsiddique 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +33

      Honey has been sponsors for YT channel for yeeeears. You have definitely heard of them.

    • @nothingtoseehere449
      @nothingtoseehere449 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@muizzsiddique oh I heard of them I just had no idea they were running a scam because I was using sponsorblock for so long.

    • @hipersonic999
      @hipersonic999 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +40

      I didn't even knew what "Honey" meant in this context lol. Sometimes, ignorance is indeed a bliss.

    • @valeeeeeaaeeeeeeeeee
      @valeeeeeaaeeeeeeeeee 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      Great! And now sponsor block has your data?

  • @ZampNoxis
    @ZampNoxis 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +679

    Never use or buy ANYTHING peddled by TH-camrs

    • @lobitome
      @lobitome 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Back in the day, radio presenters pushing Herb-A-Life relentlessly, and later got in zero trouble for pushing the scam weight loss pills for years. Trust very few people.

    • @SpittingBritTeaEarlGrey
      @SpittingBritTeaEarlGrey 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

      how about Brilliant sponsor ads

    • @Linkman8912
      @Linkman8912 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SpittingBritTeaEarlGreybrilliant was actually good when I used it a while back, but I'm not sure if it's different now, worth researching if you're actually wondering

    • @carbohydratespeter361
      @carbohydratespeter361 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +103

      I would change that to „never use or buy anything without deeper research“

    • @ALC570
      @ALC570 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SpittingBritTeaEarlGreythat’s just paying for educational youtube videos

  • @mason96575
    @mason96575 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +540

    I love how suddenly everyone is talking about Honey after MegaLag’s video. It’s bringing proper awareness to this Honey THEFT scam, and the multiple voices canNOT be silenced!
    I’d love to see some proper justice play out!

    • @justadude8716
      @justadude8716 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      I thought it was based, fuck influencers

    • @martontichi8611
      @martontichi8611 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

      yea I've been a subscriber to megalag for a year now and i love his videos and this one is HUGE .

    • @Jose04537
      @Jose04537 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +39

      It probably enraged a lot of youtubers to discover one of their sponsors was stealing their commissions.

    • @jonathantheyorkie
      @jonathantheyorkie 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah. I'm hoping the video doesn't get taken down, just in case, I downloaded it and this one too.

    • @tomnuke9122
      @tomnuke9122 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Paypal needs to get fucked.

  • @BenisDD
    @BenisDD 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +460

    If it's free, you are the product.

    • @mohammedgoder
      @mohammedgoder 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +100

      Buddy, paid products also make you the product.
      There is no winning. You just have be be smart enough to do your due diligence.

    • @namenlosNamenlos
      @namenlosNamenlos 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

      ​@@mohammedgodertrue indeed.

    • @SssNnn2551
      @SssNnn2551 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      Ublock Origin 😅

    • @CharlieBoy360
      @CharlieBoy360 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I tried explaining this to my dad after seeing his Android phone full of adware and shady apps. SMH.

    • @mr_siuuu
      @mr_siuuu 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      looks like u r a product too cuz u use youtube???

  • @theeccentrictripper3863
    @theeccentrictripper3863 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +149

    Ngl Paypal doing the ol' switcharoo with affiliate links is so cartoonishly diabolical I can't help but chuckle, makes me wonder how much they've raked in through that method alone.

    • @windws7137
      @windws7137 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Love the wording

  • @catdotjs
    @catdotjs 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +155

    I am happy that you credited megalag in the description but you realllyyy should've said it in the video as well at the start!

    • @HeidenLam
      @HeidenLam 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      agreed, or make a pinned comment crediting the original video and the channel it's from

    • @D.von.N
      @D.von.N 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yep, I got to the original video becase somebody just posted the reference in their announcements. Suddenly the hell broke loose and I have seen at least 4 others who jumped on the bandwagon to benefit from years of investigation by the guy. And it is jut the beginning. I wonder when will somebkdy pick up on misleading claims of deleteme and similar services. It is also being pushed down my throat by almost every talking head that accepts sponsors. Annoying.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@HeidenLam it was obviously not legit and i did aff links fulltime for big money in 2011...

  • @kidmosey
    @kidmosey 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +88

    This gave me an idea to just become my own affiliate and create a plugin that hijack's everyone else's affiliate links with my own.

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

      I'm nearly certain that's how honey originated.

    • @jamesinnitbruv
      @jamesinnitbruv 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      That's no different then getting a coupon code that wasn't given to you, so long you actually do what's advertised and save people money (which honey does) then I don't see a problem with it.

    • @kidmosey
      @kidmosey 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jamesinnitbruv I mean just for my own purposes, but I could probably release a plugin so anyone can replace all affiliate links with their own.

    • @windws7137
      @windws7137 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      New Villain of TH-cam (red circles and arrow, acrylic paint filter, white eyes)

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      people did that long ago in 2010.. i did it fulltime actually on a popular tech forum

  • @lisahaik
    @lisahaik 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +79

    This is basically just a retelling of MegaLag's video. But at least it's shorter than the original and it's not named "The Honey Situation is Insane"!

    • @RmFrZQ
      @RmFrZQ 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      Also thumbnail is without a face doing stupid fake expressions, no red circles and no arrows. Basically, one of the best tech news channel on YT, with occasional farming advice video.
      PS: Hello, fellow Blarghonite.

    • @glass7923
      @glass7923 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      >hello fellow redditnite

    • @manana1444
      @manana1444 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@RmFrZQ Get DeArrow, I had no idea how cancerous was the original thumbnail and title before seeing it in this video.

    • @windws7137
      @windws7137 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@RmFrZQ Agreed. Plus this complaint, retelling - that's how the news work, duh

    • @tetrisgonzo37
      @tetrisgonzo37 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      so what. I don't know who you are talking about. And I'm subscribed to this channel. Mental Outlaw wins, MegaLax lost. Get over it.

  • @andrewpotato6002
    @andrewpotato6002 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +235

    This is how all voucher/coupon websites have worked since the invention of the cookie. It is crazy how many people are outraged by Honey and not the whole affiliate industry. This must be a US thing

    • @realchiknuggets
      @realchiknuggets 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      you're probably right

    • @terrsus
      @terrsus 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

      Personally i just never heard about these types of scams/ fraud going around

    • @AndroidFerret
      @AndroidFerret 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Sounds like.

    • @andrewpotato6002
      @andrewpotato6002 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +46

      To elaborate, I am amazed how so many supposedly-expert tech TH-camrs seem surprised, when this is how affiliate extensions/toolbars/plugins have always worked. They can't do a Honey sponsorship, get paid $3 per install, and then expect to get paid again for Amazon affiliate links in the video descriptions. And what about other creators? Well tough - there can only be one referrer and that's how the affiliate business works. If you don't like it, make your own merch or ask for donations through Patreon or wherever.
      In the tier list of TH-cam sponsorship shadiness, I place Honey in D tier. The CSGO gambling sites go in A tier.

    • @andrewpotato6002
      @andrewpotato6002 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@terrsus at worst it is dark patterns. There are plenty of real scams and fraud in TH-cam sponsor spots. PayPal is an evil, immoral company that needs to be broken up, but this is the least of their crimes.

  • @ContraHacker1337
    @ContraHacker1337 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

    I was hoping you would talk some technical stuff about how they swap the cookie. MegaLag showed Honey opening up a sneaky Chrome tab, that's something I haven't seen before.

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      That's straight up a malware like behavior, and usually it could instantly trigger the virus protection

  • @fonfonanime
    @fonfonanime 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +45

    This is really just a summary of megalag's video right down to the analogy and examples they used. You should have made that clear in the video not just a note in the description

    • @zolii204
      @zolii204 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      +1

  • @pinko7429
    @pinko7429 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Honestly I'm a little annoyed at this situation, not because Honey is a scam, scams and scammers are a part of life. It's the fact that TH-camrs will reccomend their viewers all this shady shit, "there's no catch!", "it protects your privacy/protects you from hackers!" they will lie to people for money, and sleep soundly at night, but as soon as THEY get fucked over it's something we're all meant to care about.

  • @bcj842
    @bcj842 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    I learned my lesson several years back concerning influencer-marketed products. I bought RayCons once. I took them out of the box, put them in my ears, and I didn't even get 30 seconds through the song I used to test their fidelity. I put them back in the box and sent them back. The sonic equivalent of breathing swamp gas. I don't know how people can rock those things. You can get 1000x better sounding full-wireless for the same price. RayCON indeed.

    • @sohn7767
      @sohn7767 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeap, Ridge wallet is also super overpriced for what it does

  • @LePygargue
    @LePygargue 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +99

    If it's promoted by big influencers, it's a scam.

    • @SporianSummit
      @SporianSummit 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      facts

    • @njpme
      @njpme 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      You ain't lying

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@SporianSummit No it is not.. get a reality check

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@njpme yes.. they are.. thats outright paranoia 100%

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Very bad immature take

  • @radu24maior
    @radu24maior 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    While vpns don’t exactly protect you from advertisers and hackers, they do protect you from your isp when you torrent stuff.

    • @sohn7767
      @sohn7767 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yes they have their uses, just their necessity is often overblown

    • @jasonoutman420
      @jasonoutman420 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Also for getting around country wide blocks or accessing streaming services that are geo locked

    • @iyziejane
      @iyziejane ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jasonoutman420 accessing streaming services that are geo locked is legally equivalent to torrents anyway.

  • @327efrain
    @327efrain 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +38

    Tried to use honey once 10 years or something g like that ago and it didn’t find any coupons so I said this is stupid and deleted. Didn’t know how much of a bullet I dodged there

    • @Glocky131
      @Glocky131 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah same, I also noticed the coupons that it was supposedly trying seemed randomly generated and fake but I had no idea how big of a scam it all was.

    • @windws7137
      @windws7137 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Lol real, and it has this goofy animation of "cracking" the codes

  • @JediCore
    @JediCore 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +40

    Honey is a sneaky with this one, not gonna lie.
    I did download it to try it out, but it didn't work. I think I've tried it twice maybe? I couldn't find any of the coupons I said to myself "fuck this, it doesn't work anyway", then uninstalled it.

  • @VerhoevenSimon
    @VerhoevenSimon 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    I'm still baffled LTT didn't do an expose, but just stayed quiet.

    • @amber1862
      @amber1862 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      LTT are at their lowest point in regards to their reputation. They can't afford another public fuckup like this. It's messed up but I wouldn't call their behavior baffling, it's expected at this point. Just avoid them entirely and encourage everyone you know to do the same.

    • @ceticobr
      @ceticobr ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They are not exactly good at apologizing.

  • @livingmess_
    @livingmess_ 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +68

    there are upsides of living under a rock and not trusting sponsorships bulshit :)

  • @Maxშემიწყალე
    @Maxშემიწყალე 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

    LTT not saying a word after they found out is disgusting. Their mods on the LTT forum are banning anyone who calls them out too.

    • @omduggineni
      @omduggineni ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It’s probably part of their deal with Honey that they can’t say anything to be honest

    • @ceticobr
      @ceticobr ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@omduggineniI find it hard to give LTT the benefit of the doubt these days.

    • @kvdrr
      @kvdrr ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@omduggineniwdym they can't?

    • @Mugetsu_Gaming
      @Mugetsu_Gaming 54 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Stopped watching LTT ages ago, I think around the time some scandal happened

  • @MangoPanic
    @MangoPanic 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Everyone knew Honey was pretty much guaranteed to be mining shopping data, it doesn't take a genius to figure out it was a scam, so you're right that we should be disappointed in creators for promoting it (especially tech channels who should know better). But the extent of the scam is definitely surprising.

  • @TheDarkestPhoenix
    @TheDarkestPhoenix 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    I think the shittier part of the affiliate hijacking is it probably didn't even really hurt the people promoting honey as much as the smaller creators who weren't promoting honey, because audience overlap and all. Honey stole basically all affiliate links, even if they didn't have coupons to give or anything else. All without informing the user they were doing this, or giving you lesser coupons. And probably building a gigantic tracking database. And, apparently, giving out coupons that weren't actually supposed to be public in some cases, from the sounds of it.

    • @kvdrr
      @kvdrr ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      hey, that last bit is pretty cool

  • @pmqtpqbtmz3956
    @pmqtpqbtmz3956 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    I called this back in 2018. Nobody listened and my tweet was largely ignored. On the record, I don't trust Ryan Hudson or his companies. I'm highly skeptical of the ad blocker Pie. Maybe you could look into this one?

    • @longtom
      @longtom ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Upper Echolon did that yesterday already. At least he added something new to the discussion unlike this video which is only a lame rehash of MegaLag's investigation. Very disappointed!

  • @ascreamingchimpus9321
    @ascreamingchimpus9321 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    Honey Shills on their podcasts: "Honey! It's free! You're stupid if you don't get it"
    I guess I'm stupid then.

    • @windws7137
      @windws7137 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They criticized Mr Beast for his "subscribe for a cookie/car" and here is a literal insult

  • @scheimong
    @scheimong 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +64

    Shocking revelation! Megacorporations don't have your best interest in mind.

    • @AJ-po6up
      @AJ-po6up 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

      Neither does the government, politicians or 99% of strangers. Welcome to reality.

    • @1337Shockwav3
      @1337Shockwav3 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      "But people need coupons to survive"

  • @Julio860JVL
    @Julio860JVL 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +100

    Attempt # 9.
    Trying to get your attention to check your microphone because your S letters sound like a sword cutting something.

    • @s...4901
      @s...4901 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      tihi can't unhear it now

    • @purpleey
      @purpleey 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      I shouldnt have read this 😢 now I cant unhear it ahhhhh

    • @CentreMetre
      @CentreMetre 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Oh god i hate when that happens in videos

    • @underintact134
      @underintact134 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      It sounds like a knife cutting paper and I hate that you brought attention to it cause now it's all I hear

    • @D.von.N
      @D.von.N 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I haven't even watched it, after watching the original content yesterday. I am here just for the comments, not expecting to hear anything new here LOL.

  • @randomaccount53793
    @randomaccount53793 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +51

    It has nothing to do with the video, but I love how 0:27 the coffee is spilled and he just keeps smiling and pretend it didn't happen. Super introvert energy.

    • @Killer_KT
      @Killer_KT 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      it do be like that huh

    • @skootz24
      @skootz24 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Your point stands, but isn't that what the tiny little plates those teacups come on are for? Actual question lol I don't coffee 😅

    • @acerIOstream
      @acerIOstream 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@skootz24 kinda! But generally, it's the drinker who spills some coffee while sipping, and not the barista lol

    • @SidShakal
      @SidShakal 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      i love connecting to sites that start with htps
      (i wasn't gonna say it, but when i saw an off-topic comment referring to the same spot in the video, i couldn't help it 😭)

  • @Crazyboutpeace
    @Crazyboutpeace 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +27

    Man I feel bad for some of the people who promoted this. The one guy Noodle actually looked through the terms to make.sure they kept things private, was one of the earliest people who got sponsored, and they're not a tech guy at all, they'd never have been able to know this was a thing. Like LTT and others like em are scum for not telling people about this, but the smaller content creators who survived because of the sponsorships don't deserve this or any hate.

    • @ElusiveEel
      @ElusiveEel 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      but the problem is, where does the money come from that they are sponsoring their shills with?

    • @ceoherohub2584
      @ceoherohub2584 45 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @@ElusiveEelBro… freaking PayPal owns honey.

  • @MrBelles104
    @MrBelles104 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    I think the affiliates that hid discount codes are the most idiotic of individuals, because if you don't want people to get a better discount then...just don't offer that discount? Don't make it a code that would work in the first place, and BOOM, no partnership needed, they're actively hurting themselves. I know they have some unethical logic, but I still want to slam them for their behavior.

    • @D.von.N
      @D.von.N 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Your data is their prize, don't forget! You are just a milking cow here.

  • @lobitome
    @lobitome 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    As a rule, I never click on something someone is telling me that I need. Especially so called influencers. And I also never click affiliate links of TH-camrs.

  • @odine55
    @odine55 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Somehow, Honey was able scam everyone on the chain:
    Product Affiliates (having 100% of commissions stolen by PayPal)
    Product Vendors (although not really a scam, but end users pay lower prices for products)
    End Users (probably getting spied on and not really getting the best prices)

  • @Wkaelx
    @Wkaelx 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +121

    8:45 This is scummy behavior, that's why I use the old fashion Firefox.

    • @kidmosey
      @kidmosey 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately, Mozilla isn't long for this world. A court ruled against Chrome paying mozilla to be their primary search engine, which is 80% of their revenue, and the rest of the money is being divvied up amongst Mozilla's dwindling executive board. It's crazy what happens when companies focus more on activism than their primary product.

    • @objectionablycurious
      @objectionablycurious 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      brave is one of the scummiest browsers out there and will constantly lie to consumers

    • @Lextron68PlusOne
      @Lextron68PlusOne 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I recommend u try librewolf

    • @mangu4558
      @mangu4558 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      I don't get why Brave is so popular anyway

    • @Lextron68PlusOne
      @Lextron68PlusOne 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @mangu4558 librewolf is better

  • @srpenguinbr
    @srpenguinbr 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Tbh all public coupons are sketchy. Why give discounts openly? Coupons shold be directed to repeat customers.

    • @D.von.N
      @D.von.N 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Or to lure new customers in. Business is not that easy. Utilities have been doing it since I remmember: getting a better deal to switch while lasting customers got rise in price after the cheap period ended. One had to keep hopping from provider to provider to save. Internet, sim deals, bank accounts... and your credit score suffers, but those who understant, those know you are just being savvy. And some will appreciate that.

  • @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
    @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

    "Everyone" Me a person on youtube. Hold up!
    Are you imply I believed for even the slightest of moment a for profit entity was going to give me a "Deal" as their expense? Come on that's just insulting! Lol, joking because it takes one hell of a sucker to think something is free from a corporation, no cost is not the same as free.

  • @TonyHamone
    @TonyHamone 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +46

    TH-camrs and podcasters are never held responsible for promoting these scams.

    • @MonkehCream
      @MonkehCream 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      yeah they are lmao

    • @_therax
      @_therax 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      In this case, they shouldn't be. The influencers that promoted Honey were not made aware that it was performing shady stuff until recently. The only team that was aware of it years ago was LTT and they just stopped working with honey and withheld the information and didn't sound the alarm about it.

    • @rendezvousonmemorylane
      @rendezvousonmemorylane 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Copy paste comment that doesn't spply here.

    • @CentreMetre
      @CentreMetre 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@_therax LTT should definitly face backlash, for their lack of talking about it ages ago, and not providing good answer to megalag when he asked. I say this as a fan of LTT aswell

    • @_therax
      @_therax 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@CentreMetre I agree. LTT has been getting a lot of heat recently lmao. i wonder what issue's going to pop up about them in the coming future.

  • @mariokarter13
    @mariokarter13 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Another false advertising thing people seem to ignore is the claim that "crypto is untraceable."
    It's the most traceable thing in existence, literally every transaction is logged.

  • @videoarchive2243
    @videoarchive2243 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I always had the mind set of " when something is too good to be true then there is twist "
    The internet is place to make profit out of anything from the user : time , info , money even a mindset
    And the more i send in the internet the more i see it

  • @SporianSummit
    @SporianSummit 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    i called it back when people were shilling for it like crazy a few years ago or something, and now this ends up happening.
    just like the legend from dragon ball had said: *CALLED IT.*

  • @MrKushinator420
    @MrKushinator420 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lmao when they started ads on this years ago I thought to myself "cookies are making them money" Yeah turns out it's way worse than that. They're stealing from other cookie providers. As a cookieman, I wholeheartedly deny this as a legitimate business model.

  • @pajeetsingh
    @pajeetsingh 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Seen lot of thumbnails floating around on recommendation. I only watch Mental Outlaw's take. Shorter and concise.

  • @Stephcurry-e7v
    @Stephcurry-e7v 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +107

    Honey scamming before GTA 6 is nasty work

    • @raumfahreturschutze
      @raumfahreturschutze 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

      At first I found all this GTA6 stuff annoying, but I'll admit it's starting to make me laugh. 😆

    • @kougamecs3876
      @kougamecs3876 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Same​@@raumfahreturschutze

    • @pajeetsingh
      @pajeetsingh 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      Stop it. Get some help.

  • @kaydog890
    @kaydog890 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    It seems like it's a seller / creators problem. Not a user problem.
    If it saved a user even $1, then it's done it's job.
    We, the majority, don't care where the commission goes.
    I have no doubt they're collecting data on spending habits, but so is every other tech company.

    • @acpjr
      @acpjr 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      True, but the title does say that Honey is scamming TH-camrs (their partners) not people purchasing products.

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      But they don't offer what they say they offer (the best coupons).

    • @manana1444
      @manana1444 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It deliberately lies to it's user base that they get the best offer possible so that they don't go around finding a better deal themselves. How is that not a user problem?

  • @boltez6507
    @boltez6507 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    9:00 100% my point,the youtubers who promoted honey didn't even have the decency to look at their FAQ let alone background research which reveals a lot about how much do they care about their audience.

  • @mattkwarren
    @mattkwarren 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've pretty much just stopped listening to anything promoted on TH-cam. In my experience, the best products never have loud affiliate programs.

  • @Problemsolver434
    @Problemsolver434 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    You should have mentioned Megalag in the video itself rather than a small mention in the description that most people wouldn't read
    Given that your entire video is solely just repeating his work

    • @shutupavi
      @shutupavi 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      that description wasn’t even there last night.

  • @bluecat2186
    @bluecat2186 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +27

    You really should have given the guy who broke the story credit before rereading his script for your own youtube video
    I don't think you'd appreciate it if someone did that to you

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Read the description fam.

    • @kvykimo
      @kvykimo 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@Anonymous4045 ..and self admission makes this okay? is your brain working?

  • @UndercoverNormie
    @UndercoverNormie 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Just never use or buy anything, ever.

    • @zax1998LU
      @zax1998LU 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Make your own stuff.
      Find people that make their own stuff near you.
      Give eachother stuff for free.
      Escape the need for money.

  • @danieladelodun9547
    @danieladelodun9547 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    If only there was a mantra you could memorise that would guide you away from these kind of cons, but That Would Be Too Good To Be True

  • @bodeneinheit
    @bodeneinheit 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    sounds like the perfect time for someone to step up and create an open-source, non-scam honey, which actually works

  • @BehradJi
    @BehradJi 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    It would've been nice if you also mention the MegaLag video and give him some credit!

  • @zigafide
    @zigafide 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    it's obviously not fully their fault, but I think this should be a wakeup call for youtubers to not promote just anybody who pays them to their massive audiences.

  • @thebosscrystal
    @thebosscrystal 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    I like your videos but this one felt way too much copy paste from MagaLag’s video (also compared to other TH-camrs who have since made their own videos). Only the thumbnail was shown but no real attribution imo

  • @jyyqz
    @jyyqz 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    as what others said, you should've given megalag credit within the video itself, preferably at the start since he was the one who publicised it (Ik there was a comment and I'm quite sure he gave credit to it within his video which led mega to discover this scam anyways)

  • @raumfahreturschutze
    @raumfahreturschutze 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Thank you for the video Señor Outlaw.
    9:58 I figure this point is appreciated and intuitive to anyone with more than three brain cells to rub together. But this is why I have respect for SsethTzeentach. He low keys talks smack against all his sponsors in his ad reads, and has outright said in unsponsored videos to never believe any of his ad reads, as 'they're all lies and I'm just milking sponsors for money'. lol What a lad!

  • @monkaSisLife
    @monkaSisLife 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is exactly the reason why i'm against affiliate in general.
    I wont click these links, i'll just go to the site myself without an affiliate link and also clear my cookies.

  • @TheSpurious
    @TheSpurious 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am honestly shocked that people didn't understand this to be how honey operated. Did everyone really think they were just trying to get you the best deal? It exists to make money.

  • @yellow_spinning_goose
    @yellow_spinning_goose 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Sure i have already watched 5 videos about this, but this ones made by mental outlaw, its special.

    • @D.von.N
      @D.von.N 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Have you watched the original, on which everyone else just parasites? I admire your patientce. I gave up after the third (two in addition to the original).

  • @ACT8113
    @ACT8113 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    For me, it was Bedhead Bernie's tweet from years back that made me avoid using Honey.

  • @codefallacy
    @codefallacy 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love you 4 eye cat man, in the video itself you never gave attribution to the original investigator. You even used the thumbnail and screenshots from the original video itself. It would be nice if you at least linked to the original video in the description instead of just a footnote saying their name

  • @1hd3szfgrdm13
    @1hd3szfgrdm13 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    "...and you're really only going to hear about it, if the sponsor is scamming the creators as well"
    Yup. And that's why I'm subbed.

  • @mentalmarvin
    @mentalmarvin 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I swear I already saw this video from another creator

  • @UncleChopChop22
    @UncleChopChop22 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    How are you any different to honey, literally taking megalag content as your own. Next time try just directing people to his vid instead.

  • @Silverwing_99
    @Silverwing_99 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    How about crediting the person that did the excellent investigative piece exposing honey! U seem to re-sent as you realised this when u clearly saw megalags video, Ure also echoing what penguin and Austin said, Alton they clearly from the outset reference and acknowledge megalag investigative expose

  • @YunaiaFiyabq
    @YunaiaFiyabq 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +60

    They are wild damn

  • @ChandravijayAgrawal
    @ChandravijayAgrawal 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    i tried honey many years back, it never even provided coupons in my case, and UI is bad too

  • @Pablo-t6q7h
    @Pablo-t6q7h 45 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Dude this is why I follow you! And I got to know about this new from a random channel and not yours

  • @LAK253
    @LAK253 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    TH-camrs only talk about other TH-camrs . . . It’s how they keep the gears turning

  • @TuriGamer
    @TuriGamer 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    When I first heard about honey I installed it for about a week, it had no codes or literal 2 year old ones that obviously didnt work

  • @Rollthered
    @Rollthered 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    (p)Honey

  • @L0rdLogan
    @L0rdLogan 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    If only we listened to that rando on the LTT forums 4 years ago. this would've been over 4 years ago

  • @DiscoBallGaming
    @DiscoBallGaming 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I had honey and I hope there's a class action lawsuit so I can get my 7 dollars, I feel really stupid especially since I grew up in the XP era, I figured it was just collecting ad info or something but no they modified your cookies which is really shady, I forgot viruses used to target those

  • @josephlim-c8q
    @josephlim-c8q 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    This was such an eye-opener! I’ve always been a bit skeptical about these influencer promotions, but hearing all the details about Honey and how they’re exploiting both consumers and creators really made me rethink everything. It’s crazy how they’re profiting off of data and even hijacking affiliate links. Thanks for breaking this down so clearly. It's a shame that so many people, including influencers, get caught up in these schemes. Definitely need to stay more cautious online!

    • @Lobonova
      @Lobonova 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Its not crazy. More common than you realize.

  • @zombieboyxx
    @zombieboyxx 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    i was literally like 14-15 when i first saw honey ads and i still felt there was something fishy about it like i thought "how are they making money without ads or purchases?"

  • @SoopCanSam-EthoPlaylists
    @SoopCanSam-EthoPlaylists 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    It would be nice if you linked the video that discussed this problem before you. At least including that you used their thumbnail in this video.

  • @expandifypro
    @expandifypro 52 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Kenny is a legend. So underrated.

  • @lassmirandadennsiewillja2235
    @lassmirandadennsiewillja2235 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just bought a jar of honey paying with cash, and I'm pretty sure none of the bees will even see a penny of it, but luckily they are all asleep this time of the year.

  • @mariamolly3637
    @mariamolly3637 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Oh no, what do I do with all these ball washing products I bought from some reviewer? I don't want my boys to melt.

  • @cz7259
    @cz7259 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    As an experienced programmer, I found most of the programming channels don’t know what they are doing, and I extrapolated that all TH-camrs are bull shitting all the time. That why I never fell for non of the ads

  • @2547techno
    @2547techno 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    none of this is new, why are people now acting surprised? how else did people think they made money?

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Did you get to the part about affiliate links yet?

  • @hughmungusbungusfungus4618
    @hughmungusbungusfungus4618 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I remember trying Honey back in 2016. It took about a day for me to notice that it wasn't providing any value, at which point I uninstalled the extension. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

  • @JefferySmith-i7y
    @JefferySmith-i7y 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I knew it was happening, I just thought it was how they were monetized. I did not notice the poaching of affiliate links.

  • @px8
    @px8 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    breaking news: free product which has large advertising campaign turns out to be bad

  • @havila1906
    @havila1906 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    So is JLCPCB a scam too? I've had nothing but a great experience ordering my PCB designs from them, I even started a small business selling some guitar pedals in my local venues lol

    • @384cz
      @384cz 52 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      I don't think so, but maybe overpriced?

  • @oleroma
    @oleroma 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Its strange you didnt mention the source in video. I see link in description, but from video its kind of presented like its your findings.

  • @gregtasi
    @gregtasi 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    No offense, but you are kind of stealing megalag's video word by word without mentioning him a single time in your video

    • @shutupavi
      @shutupavi 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      yea that’s what I said! pretty infuriating

  • @Joutube_is_trash
    @Joutube_is_trash 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Even if it wasn't a scam, using coupons has always been such a small benefit that even if I used one on every single purchase I made I might save enough per year to pay off a speeding ticket

  • @andylin6560
    @andylin6560 29 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    The most scummy thing is Honey advertises "partnerships" where the company can limit the sale percentage. For example a company partners with Honey, Then the company tells Honey "do not show discounts above 10%" So there might be coupons for 15% or 20% off but those coupons won't show on Honey, even if you try to manually add the code.

  • @SchizophrenixTheGaul3478
    @SchizophrenixTheGaul3478 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely diabolical, like a Saturday Morning cartoon villain.

  • @brucewilliams6292
    @brucewilliams6292 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A shitty new world for us to explore. Thought it was scamy and am glad for the verification. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

  • @User-cf8ll
    @User-cf8ll 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for afirming my intuition that all sponsors that youtubers shill are scams : )

  • @floppa9415
    @floppa9415 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Advertising something through TH-camrs is the best way to discredit your product.

  • @lisashiela9137
    @lisashiela9137 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The constant influencing, from the influencers, have been off the charts this year.

  • @madquack6449
    @madquack6449 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    5:27 Well, that explains why not a single coupon on honey works

  • @chloe-sunshine7
    @chloe-sunshine7 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Still waiting for the Rocket Money video. I don’t trust them whatsoever.

  • @dustykh
    @dustykh 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Markiplier said he didnt trust honey years ago.

  • @TeaInTheMorning-we2kh
    @TeaInTheMorning-we2kh 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Generally reputable companies don't have to resort to having TH-camrs shill their products