Marillion: Pseudo Silk Kimono, Kayleigh, & Lavender REACTION/ANALYSIS | The Daily Doug (Episode 342)

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  • #Marillion #MisplacedChildhood #Kayleigh
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  • @Mach2k
    @Mach2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    The album grows darker and darker with each song. Recommend to do the complete album. It was Fishs masterpiece

    • @MrDuneedon
      @MrDuneedon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I prefer Clutching At Straws to Misplaced Childhood -- talk about dark! But, both are masterpieces.

    • @daneng3641
      @daneng3641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Someone's not paying attention.

    • @simond1574
      @simond1574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Clutching is the masterpiece. I even prefer the debut over Misplaced.

    • @StuartDootson
      @StuartDootson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Blind Curve is the nadir (the peak of darkness) - love it…

    • @SamRoads
      @SamRoads 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It absolutely doesn't. It has one of the most triumphant endings in prog. I can't believe I'm even writing this.

  • @davidwhite9659
    @davidwhite9659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I saw Marillion live in 1986 opening for Rush. I thought Marillion would just play a bunch of songs from their first 3+ albums, but when the show started Fish took the stage and said, "We have just enough time to get this in. This is an album called Misplaced Childhood." With the first notes of "Pseudo Silk Kimono" the crowd roared. Best concert I ever saw. Well worth the 18 hour (!) train ride to get there.

    • @toddsherman4618
      @toddsherman4618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I saw multiple shows on that Rush tour and share your memories. What a fantastic show.

    • @JCRidley
      @JCRidley 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw them open for Rush in Detroit and then headline in Grand Rapids on back to back nights.

    • @billmische
      @billmische 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The first gig I went to they supported Status Quo at Milton Keynes in 1984 - but I was at Brixton Academy shortly after Kayleigh hit the charts. The rear 2/3rds of the audience were couples for whom Kayleigh was "their song"...and then there was us lot in the mosh pit at the front ;-)

    • @richardgolub5297
      @richardgolub5297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That must have been a concert among concerts. Epic!!!! You were so very lucky to have been there.

    • @langdalepaul
      @langdalepaul ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw them headline their own festival at the Milton Keynes bowl in 1986. They played the entire Misplaced Childhood album as their first encore.

  • @AndrewMiesem
    @AndrewMiesem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Fish-era Marillion is pure magic! I would absolutely love for you to react to the first side of Marillion's "Clutching at Straws" album; it is neck-and-neck in terms of which one is my favorite of their albums.

    • @TheFilwud
      @TheFilwud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If I was going to suggest 2 tracks off Clutching- Sugar Mice and White Russian, both epics and show the breadth of Fishes writing as well as a showcase for the group.

    • @AndrewMiesem
      @AndrewMiesem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Warm Wet Circles/That Time of the Night (The Short Straw)" would also be pretty amazing tracks, though honestly, there's so much goodness on that album, almost anything works.

    • @gwaptiva
      @gwaptiva 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To me, CaS is by far the superior (prog) record. But careful, it's deeply depressing; my friends know to call for intervention but it's such an awesome record to hear on full blast with the lights off

    • @marinhrabric6162
      @marinhrabric6162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not just the first side, the whole album

    • @stephenslade1639
      @stephenslade1639 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheFilwud saw 'new' Marillion play Sugar mice about 10 years ago.. Was hilarious to see Hogarth get p off coz everyone sang along which they had not been doing before. Dont get me wrong, love post Fish Marillion but there is just something about the earlky stuff,

  • @fcukwelshy
    @fcukwelshy ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Fish is a lyrical genius, every album with Marillion & his solo stuff tells a story & paints a picture. Amazing lyricist.

  • @garanceadrosehn9691
    @garanceadrosehn9691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I've always really loved both _"Kayleigh"_ and _"Lavender"._
    Note that _"Lavender"_ is almost certainly a reference to the long-time folk song _"Lavender Blue (Dilly Dilly)",_ done by Burl Ives and Sammy Kaye (among many others, I'm sure). The Burl Ives version is available right here on TH-cam. Hmm. So is the Sammy Kaye version. The version by SK says: _"Charted at #4 in Billboard in December 1948. Vocals by the Three Kaydets. Based on an English folk song and nursery rhyme. It was featured in the 1948 movie, "So Dear to My Heart", as sung by Burl Ives."_

    • @chadbennett7873
      @chadbennett7873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellently stated!

    • @jwaktare
      @jwaktare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed - didn't see your comment before posting myself

    • @graemew2600
      @graemew2600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fish at the time said he researched nursery rhymes in the search of something that was pure, with no negative connotations (like Ring of Roses, about the plague).

    • @olavl8827
      @olavl8827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No "almost" about this being a clear reference to Lavender's Blue, the old folk song ;-)
      According to Wikipedia the song originates in the 17th century. There are many versions of it, including the ones you mentioned.
      The Fish/Marillion song is very clear about it being a well known song: the narrator hears children sing it in the park.
      This is one of the reasons why Misplaced Childhood is such a fantastic album, apart from the great music. Fish really takes the listener on a journey. The whole thing is superb story telling.

    • @gwaptiva
      @gwaptiva 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And it fits wonderfully in Marillion's oeuvre, cf "Margaret" with Mary's Wedding...

  • @BAMozzy69
    @BAMozzy69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    You really ought to check out Grendel - perhaps Marillion's magnum opus with Fish. An absolute classic!!!

    • @mikelenox7999
      @mikelenox7999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Let the blood flow!

    • @feedback67
      @feedback67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Grendel! Jaaaa! Absolute love that song!

    • @neilstevenson8590
      @neilstevenson8590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doug - please do a review of Grendel by Marillion. This was their show piece from their early period and definitely worth a session of your timed. Plenty of Genesis/ Yes/ PFloyd similarities to get your teeth into...

    • @nunomp2006
      @nunomp2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! Do Grendel!

  • @sgt.grinch3299
    @sgt.grinch3299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Marillion is a fantastic band. Live they are a beast. Steve is one of the best guitarist you never heard of. His melodies and leads are epic.

  • @Plymouth888
    @Plymouth888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Incubus is another excellent Marillion classic.

  • @traffic71
    @traffic71 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    As a Marillion with Fish true fan since the early 80’s, thank you so much for showing this. I still think Steve Rothery is one of the best guitarists ever.
    Please can I ask that you look at their earlier stuff on Script or Fugazi. Fish’s lyrics are real poetry.
    Also, they are one of few bands who sound just as good live as in the studio.

    • @JoriDiculous
      @JoriDiculous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chelsey Monday is a must. Brilliant track.

    • @sgt.grinch3299
      @sgt.grinch3299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. Seen them twice and was completely blown away.

    • @anjizetland-von-kiesel3346
      @anjizetland-von-kiesel3346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw them at The Garden Party at Milton Keynes in the mid 80's and they were awesome. It helped that it was a gorgeous sunny day and we were all sat on the grassy bank with a cool box full of cider and wine and some "herbal" ciggies. Jethro Tull were on the bill too who are always great live. Great memories!

    • @traffic71
      @traffic71 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anjizetland-von-kiesel3346 lucky you! I saw them in 85 or 86 I think at the Brighton Centre. Went with my mate and his older brother. It was brilliant but unfortunately due to my age no wine or herbal ciggies!! I’ve still listened to them ever since. Apart from actually still enjoying their music it has the ability to take me back 30+ years.

    • @anjizetland-von-kiesel3346
      @anjizetland-von-kiesel3346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ traffic71 I am sure you enjoyed it just as much! I have just googled it and apparently Gary Moore played as well but I can't remember him which is strange as I like him too? Maybe too much wine and herbal ciggies!! It was 1986 but it seems like yesterday.

  • @Keith_KC8TCQ
    @Keith_KC8TCQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    you really need to take a listen to Marillion's Grendel, it is a prog epic based on the classic poem Beowulf.
    And Fish has released some really great solo works one of my favorites is Dark Star

    • @JoriDiculous
      @JoriDiculous 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors. Picks up from Misplaced pretty well. Great "debut" album.

    • @alaskatoburningmen4549
      @alaskatoburningmen4549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoriDiculous Have to check that out.

  • @robinzuiderveld
    @robinzuiderveld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I've always liked the fact that, after the guitar solo, the verse modulates from B minor to C sharp minor, but the chorus stays in D both times. Subtle creativity like that can be really inspiring.

    • @evankeal
      @evankeal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's what I always liked most about this song.

  • @Thirdfish
    @Thirdfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Fugazi was their best.
    Clutching was a very under rated album, dark and brilliant.

    • @MrMartinoef
      @MrMartinoef 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep - puhch & judy as well asfugazi stood out for me

    • @rmyikzelf5604
      @rmyikzelf5604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Script is their best imho

    • @Thirdfish
      @Thirdfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MrMartinoef Emerald Lies for me ;)

    • @MrMartinoef
      @MrMartinoef 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thirdfish assasin as well - mpst of Fugazi actually - might have to dig it out for a listen now 🤣

    • @Thirdfish
      @Thirdfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrMartinoef Weird how it was spelt Assassing.

  • @agr7879
    @agr7879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A brand new Marillion album will be released on March 4th. Can’t wait! We all need more Marillion in our lives

  • @brentsnoddy1951
    @brentsnoddy1951 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Jan. '85 I arrived at Holy Loch Scotland in the Navy and within months one of my shipmates turned me on to Misplaced Childhood. I immediately fell in love with their lyrics and sound. Being in a half American and half Scottish member band I quickly found out how much metal and hard rocker Scottish loved this band and was hooked for life on the Fish and early Hogarth albums. Decades later I still love listening to them just no longer on vinyl or cassette. I was fortunate to see them twice, once in Edinburgh and at a Donnington Monsters of Rock multi-concert. I still cherish them as a great little "best kept secret" and still to this day I sip Drambuie as mentioned on Clutching at Straws. Doug, I have watched a lot of your review of music I have enjoyed over the the decades and I appreciate your coverage of anything Marillion. I have found that there seems to be a theme of Fish's song and lyrics that were peaking at Clutching at Straws and/or the peak of his struggles with alcohol and whatnot. I also still love the idea of the bands name from Tolkien. Anyway, a little late to the (Garden) party for your review, but thank you.

  • @stephenbrown4211
    @stephenbrown4211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fish once said that Script, Fugazi and Misplaced were a trilogy of thoughts. Script was Bedsit thoughts when Fish first joined Marillion and living in bedsits and touring, staying in dingy B&B's. Fugazi was hotel thoughts when the band broke out and staying in hotels. Neither of these were actual concepts but the love songs were about mainly one person, Kay-Lee. She was a former girlfriend of Fish and obviously the inspiration for that song. Then comes Misplaced, a concept album he dubbed Home Thoughts. This was about being on the road and wondering what he should do; be with her, be the big rock star or be back home in Scotland. Its about that break up and when you get to the song Childhoods End, releasing he has to break away from her.
    I can relate to this album as it came out just as I broke up with a wonderful girl and I was left devastated. That album got me through a dark period. and although heartbreaking, when you get to Childhoods End, you realise there's reason and hope. Fish is a true poet and he had a great band behind him to put that poetry to music.

  • @yahcobshaul9713
    @yahcobshaul9713 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    EXCELLENT CHOICE! Misplaced Childhood affected me so much I named my first born Kayleigh.😏

    • @kelseyyates8812
      @kelseyyates8812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My daughters name is Kayleigh Gabriel!

    • @chadbennett7873
      @chadbennett7873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@quintisalive I se what you did there! hahaha

    • @jwaktare
      @jwaktare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're not alone - Kayleigh rose from nowhere to be in the top 10 UK girls names list for many years thanks to this song...

    • @memelordmark7532
      @memelordmark7532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My best friend named his first born Kayleigh. Rather obscure here in the States.

    • @hairywelder5188
      @hairywelder5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Didn't Fish create the name himself ? ( if I'd had a daughter it would have been first choice )

  • @vaporman81
    @vaporman81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Weltschmerz is Fishs' final album, The album is amazing and deserves a listen!

    • @Ken5244
      @Ken5244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Garden of Remembrance" is stunning. So is the "making of" video here on TH-cam. Brilliant work on many levels.

  • @klipkultur2951
    @klipkultur2951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fish voice is a mix of Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins, strangely enough.

    • @Thirdfish
      @Thirdfish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peter Hammill too.

  • @jwaktare
    @jwaktare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another enjoyable and though provoking analysis - Thanks Doug
    As an FYI "lavender's green dilly dilly" is a UK nursery rhythm and the fact that Fish felt that this children's song was the song that he (as a successful rock singer/lyricist) failed to write for his lamented recently lost lover has always been a very poignant thought for me. While I love a diverse range of music, Fish's emotion laden poetic wordplay and singing combined with the musicianship and song writing of the rest of the band was a unique combo and I love all four of the Fish era albums (while still a fan of both' halves later separate work)

  • @Keith_KC8TCQ
    @Keith_KC8TCQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this was what got me into Marillion and the lyrical genius of Fish and the musical genius of the band

  • @edoardoconvertino3527
    @edoardoconvertino3527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Pseudo Silk Kimono hits in such a deep, powerful way. One of the best intros ever for one of the best albums ever! Btw you should check out "Grendel" by Marillion too, their best work imo.

  • @jeffreygould101
    @jeffreygould101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I'm asked for my favorite Fish era Marillion album, my response is "Script for a Misplaced Fugazi Straw." I really struggle ranking these 4 classic albums. All are really special to me and continue to fascinate and captivate me decades after first hearing them. And the b-sides from '82-'88 are pretty amazing as well!

  • @casuallyabandoned
    @casuallyabandoned 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Folks, we all, as Marillion fans, have fond memories of Grendel, but it sounds very much like what it is, a group of teenage Genesis fans trying to write something that sounded like Supper's Ready. There is so much Marillion, even from the Fish era, that I'd love to hear Doug's take on before Grendel. Garden Party, Fugazi, The opening three songs of Clutching.

    • @mortenbay
      @mortenbay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or how about he reacts to An Hour Before It's Dark when it comes out next week? Some early reviews say it's their best album ever. I know some folks will never be convinced, but FEAR was transformative for me, and what I've heard so far is amazing.

  • @kestrelhill
    @kestrelhill 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kayleigh was one of my brother's favorite songs - we played it at his memorial service. Bittersweet to hear it again.

    • @redkop510
      @redkop510 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You did him proud....may he rest in peace.

  • @ramoncardinali
    @ramoncardinali 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    We need a reaction to the song "Greatest Escape"! Marillion masterpiece!

  • @matthewlloyd5130
    @matthewlloyd5130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love Marillion- this album hooked me immediately back then!

  • @andrewobrien1034
    @andrewobrien1034 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Kayleigh was written about a former girlfriend of Fish - real name Kay Leigh - who he split up from as Marillion started to become more well known. Fish tells the story of the lyric, their relationship breakup and their subsequent meeting many years later in an interview at the link below.
    th-cam.com/video/fXQm2H8ygxA/w-d-xo.html

    • @jakemaattanen
      @jakemaattanen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought that her name was Kay Lee and then Fish came up with Kayleigh because other band members were uncomfortable with a direct naming of a person they knew?

    • @Vortigan07
      @Vortigan07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahh how horribly sad. All these years and I never knew that backstory...or even that a backstory existed! Now that I do know it, I love that Fish accents her real name the last time he mentions it. A lovely and deeply poignant touch at the end to see a photo of them together. RIP 🌹

    • @evanjazzista
      @evanjazzista 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Vortigan07 Sadly, the girl _Kayleigh_ is about lost her battle to cancer years ago.

    • @rog2224
      @rog2224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@evanjazzista October 2012, if memory serves

  • @shanghai264359
    @shanghai264359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great review Doug. I remember when the world and I first heard the opening tracks of the album. It was broadcast live on BBC radio from the (then) Hammersmith Odeon here in London on December 14 1984, months before it came out. Fish announced the tracks as "part of a 46 minute concept album with 2 tracks, one called side 1 and the other one called side 2 and this was part of side 1 of an album which will be called 'Misplaced Childhood.' "

  • @sebamude
    @sebamude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is was born in 1999 and Kayleigh is one of those special songs that make me feel nostalgic for a time I didnt even live through

  • @gwts1171
    @gwts1171 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. One of my favorite bands. "Kayleigh" still makes me cry. Their new one that's coming out is amazing. Thanks for the video, Doug.

  • @kenlee5015
    @kenlee5015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kayleigh isn't a favorite of mine but this album is like therapy for me, having been an abused child. I listen to it whenever I need a release from my personal demons. A true masterpiece. Fish is the man

  • @user-fj8jb3oj7e
    @user-fj8jb3oj7e ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uncle Doug, please, give us more Marillion.This is my favorite band and you my favorite reactor.Please, give me this simbios, made more reactions to this great rock collective!Script For a Jesters Tear, Fugazi, second part of Misplaced Childhood and Clutching at Straws been waiting for you!

  • @brianoconner7645
    @brianoconner7645 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my first live concerts back in the days, totally hooked. Fish‘s voice always gave & gives me chills.

  • @TheScottSlater
    @TheScottSlater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's so strange to go back and listen to Burl Ives's "Lavender Blue (Dilly Dilly)" from Disney's movie "So Dear To My Heart" (which itself is a version of an old English folk tune) that this track borrowed from. I actually knew this version before I ever heard the Burl Ives version so that was a fun backwards way to discover it.

  • @andrewbennett6089
    @andrewbennett6089 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This album is a true 80's classic and, you're right, the Peter Gabriel resemblance is very strong. Misplaced Childhood was one of the first "neo-prog" albums - with this type of synthesizer sound, this style of Genesis-influenced vocal, and a less complex, more melodic and through-composed style of music (more Genesis, Pink Floyd, and Collins-era Genesis than other, highly complex prog bands like ELP, Yes, Rush, etc.)
    Other bands playing this style since then are IQ, Pendragon, Arena, Jadis, and Shadowland. "Harvest of Souls" by IQ has been recommended before and I would also strongly suggest checking out Pendragon, specifically something off The Masquerade Overture, The Window of Life, or Not of This World (three pretty much untouchable neo-prog albums), if you like this style.

    • @alaskatoburningmen4549
      @alaskatoburningmen4549 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nicely summarised.True, Marillion (like Genesis and Kansas, very underrated in prog circles) were more song/lyric-based than on instrumental wizardry.

  • @yvesblues560
    @yvesblues560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just a touching eternal masterpiece, tyvm 🙏

  • @marcvolgers8352
    @marcvolgers8352 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy you did 3 songs, and not just Kayleigh! And now I'm going to enjoy listening to your probably awesome take on it!!!

  • @danielmeola3651
    @danielmeola3651 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Doug, i love this hole album, beautifull adolescent memories of those times.

  • @UlucOzcu
    @UlucOzcu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    that was legendary album...thanx for this reaction video

  • @nero3k
    @nero3k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this album so much.

  • @classiccars1994
    @classiccars1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fish who is on the vocals, and an excellent wordsmith, try any track of his solo album Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors all excellent

  • @MissingMars
    @MissingMars 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yesyesyes!!! more please from this criminally underrated band -thanks Doug!

  • @memelordmark7532
    @memelordmark7532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to see you react to the opening suite to Marillion Clutching at Straws. Fish's final Lp with the band.
    Fish has excellent solo material as well. One of the great lyricists of our time.
    Thanks for adding this to the Daily episodes. The EPL episode on the Patreon is wonderful as well. 😎

  • @Thingfishy
    @Thingfishy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see you react to full album’s from Fish’s solo career, too, Doug, particularly ‘Vigil In A Wilderness Of Mirrors’, one track of which features Iron Maiden’s Janick Gers 😊

  • @avro66
    @avro66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic band, great album, especially the remastered boxset including bluray audio and hi res versions.

  • @docpangasinan
    @docpangasinan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, Fish used to sound like Peter Gabriel and yet made fun of Peter sometimes. I remember those days.

  • @gustavobandeira1
    @gustavobandeira1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is “the” Marillion era. S Rothery’s guitar is magical, for me his solos are as superb as Gilmours, he has the same good taste for crazy bends and great melodies. ❤ the guy!

  • @radinamarca
    @radinamarca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 17 year old son, he’s a metal head, loves to hear “That Time of the Night” from Clutching At Straws. He says that song is magical

  • @Mr.Batsu12
    @Mr.Batsu12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So great to see you finally look at some "real" Marillion. If it's not with Fish then it's not real Marillion.

    • @welcomemachine6580
      @welcomemachine6580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh, no you di'nt! ;-) Although Fish was the original voice for them, they have expanded so far since his departure, we need to get rid of the pre/post Fish discussion.

    • @Mr.Batsu12
      @Mr.Batsu12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@welcomemachine6580 Listen, I'm not saying the replacement singer is bad or anything. He's a perfectly good singer for a generic pop/rock band which seems to mostly be what Marillion became. I even bought Seasons End and Brave when they came out to give the new guy a shot but... the music was just somewhat flat and uninteresting compared to their previous work with Fish.
      I liked the song 'After Me' a bit but it wasn't much more than a catchy surface level song. I also bought a number of solo Fish albums at the time and it was clear that the special depth and spark that Fish brought to Marillion was in his solo work. It unfortunately just didn't have the same edge as his work in Marillion.
      Again, nothing bad about post Fish Marillion but all that I've heard is just more generic pop/rock music. It's fine for what it is but since it's Marillion I know how much better it could be. I do agree that Marillion has expanded so far since Fish left - the trouble is they were so amazing with Fish and they expanded away from that greatness.

    • @birdslivehere6402
      @birdslivehere6402 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr.Batsu12 I respect your take on this. There was really something about the visuals Fish created lyrically that matched the mood of the music written behind it. It's safe to say (for me) that Marillion as a whole were at their best with Fish as the poet vocalist 😉.
      Another thing; I don't believe Marillion "matured " musically after Fish, they simply changed. I never cared for the term "dated" music. This is not on you Batsu, it's just what others say time to time.

    • @Mr.Batsu12
      @Mr.Batsu12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@birdslivehere6402 I was looking at Marillion's discography after Fish left and I've bought and listened to 2, maybe 3, albums with the new singer but my memory of what I heard was their songs lost the depth they had with Fish. I love a lot of prog rock music of the 70s and 80s and one thing that really stood out about Mariilion was their lyrics.

    • @knee_boarder
      @knee_boarder ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mr.Batsu12 I bought Season's End when it was released (on cassette tape!) and hated it. They'd lost the lyricism when Fish left and I just didn't like what they did. I've been in to many bands who've changed singers (Deep Purple, Black Sabbath amongst others) and not had a problem but Fish is my favourite lyricist and the way he delivers a line is so special. Personally, I wished they'd changed the name of the band because Fish era Marillion are my favourite band.

  • @glinthi5978
    @glinthi5978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tremendous album in my young life while I was an exchange student over in Germany in 87-88 (Hamburg). They were one of my first concerts. Thanks for the video.

  • @JeffreyTheTaylor
    @JeffreyTheTaylor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rothery was such a great "counterpunch" guitar player. Nothing too flashy, just always perfect for the song.

  • @projekt9759
    @projekt9759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Ian Mosleys drumming and his sound 👍 And Fish, he gave Marillion another dimension.

  • @coritoj
    @coritoj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks for this, I'm on a Fish research quest at the moment, log live the Daily Doug :-p greetings from Caracas

  • @sethkaicer319
    @sethkaicer319 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The daily Doug is with me through thick and thin always.

  • @JesperHellvik
    @JesperHellvik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uh that hurt when you stopped it just before Kayleigh! I love that transition.

  • @chadbennett7873
    @chadbennett7873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my all-time favorites. It's interesting that you mentioned the familiarity with Peter Gabriel's voice. I've always felt the two most passionate singers I've ever listened to are Fish and Peter Gabriel. They had a capability of reaching into your chest and touching your heart. Fish (Derek Dick) is seriously one of the finest lyricists ever. Lavendar is actually a children's song adapted to fit this mini-suite (as stated by Mr. Drosehn below). My personal favorite Mariliion album is Clutching At Straws. The song White Russian is lyrically one of the most impressives songs ever written. It applies very much to what is happening in Europe this very minute 2-24-22 - give it a listen if you haven't already -- "Uzi's on the street corner!"

  • @paultheretrogamer
    @paultheretrogamer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry I'm late I love how you break things down so I understand

  • @denisden934
    @denisden934 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What I think was the strength of Marillion back then was the intensity that they put in every song, even the most simple ones. Fish was such a great fiery singer and Steve Rothery's solos were so emotional...

  • @gablen23
    @gablen23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never really listened to their other albums, but I love this one, just fabulous.

  • @steve.hoffman
    @steve.hoffman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great reaction. Perhaps my “desert island” album. The lyrics to start are straightforward and later become more complex with multiple interpretations similar to most of his lyrics. Lavender “Dilly Dilly” is a lyrical play on a Childrens’ song, with one interpretation being that the character was not yet mature enough for a true relationship and so he sings a kids song to his love. The usage of the name Kayleigh was the first known usage, after which there was an explosion of girls named Kayleigh in the UK and beyond that are all about 20-30 years old right now. 😃 I would also suggest the Hotel Hobbies/Warm Wet Circles/That Time of the Night trilogy off their next album.

  • @subbielover9374
    @subbielover9374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an epic album. Reminds me I haven't listened to it in a long time.

  • @Olaf_G
    @Olaf_G 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was on that concert in December (with many snow). So this completly album is a "winter-album" for me.

  • @michaelakkerman407
    @michaelakkerman407 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I could hit the like button a thousand times I would. Loved this album when it came out.

  • @ukrdima
    @ukrdima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the whole album performed by Fish live in Warsaw several years ago. It was magnificent

  • @francescorondinella425
    @francescorondinella425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic song

  • @martijnv6032
    @martijnv6032 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you and Marillion

  • @Juststartingout768
    @Juststartingout768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You must do the last song of their new album that came out yesterday, Care. That last 5 minutes is the best ending to an album ever. The vibrato in his voice. The depth and feeling. People will cry listening to this song

  • @kelvyn_araujo
    @kelvyn_araujo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please. Do the rest of the album, you gonna get crazy especially with Waterhole/Lords Of Backstage/Blind Curve side two

  • @KevanRCraft
    @KevanRCraft 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Tab of Acid, the loss on a friend and realisation you are not a child any longer but an adult on borrowed time. Mylo is based on a excellent drummer John Mylett from the the UK Liverpool bands Nutz and later Rage who was killed along with his then girlfriend in Ibiza, spain in a fatal car crash. I met John Mylett a couple of times seen him play in Nuts and Rage locally in the late 1970s early 1980s before he was killed.. What a sad tale Misplaced Childhood is. excellent work by Fish..

  • @funkyleo1973
    @funkyleo1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I hope you don't mind Doug but i've just shared this in a Whatapp group i'm in with Steve Rothery (Marillion's guitarist).

  • @GabAssbreaker
    @GabAssbreaker ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Lavender so much, every time i hear the reprise of the riff in Bitter Suite makes me cry of joy.

  • @ceribleiddmann1490
    @ceribleiddmann1490 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only now I’ve got around to watching this…as ever found it insightful. Brought back so many memories …The Misplaced Childhood Tour was the first gig I was allowed to go to with friends!
    Doug, you may find Fish’s song “Garden of Remembrance” about early onset dementia an interesting listen

  • @endapian
    @endapian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a fabulous album it was........ ! I saw them only once......

  • @kimberley1195
    @kimberley1195 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Doug in my opinion the best lyricist ever Fish has the ability to touch your soul with his song writing his last album was outstanding if you delve into his work you will see that his lyrics are full of metaphors and dark subjects he was well ahead of his time in the 80,s tapping into current affairs and what was happening in the world

  • @mikem.7921
    @mikem.7921 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely my favorite album from the band OMG this is remarkable and what a career they had .

  • @namiokami1111
    @namiokami1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Memories! I loved this band, a very eccentric fish style and originality....but went back to playing them quite a bit.

  • @EduardoLamasNeiva
    @EduardoLamasNeiva 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @patrickjmorgan
    @patrickjmorgan ปีที่แล้ว

    Not heard any of this for a few years. Reminds me of my vinyls which are still in the ‘record case’ . I saw Marillion a few times at Hammersmith Odeon, usually with my old Mate Martin Mathews (RIP)

  • @codemonkey2k5
    @codemonkey2k5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are some Genisis moments in this.

  • @trsidn
    @trsidn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I adore this record. I had become disenchanted with Genesis going poppy. And I ran across this... and Kayliegh in particular

  • @rmyikzelf5604
    @rmyikzelf5604 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! Some truely awesome marillion!

  • @bassplayer998
    @bassplayer998 ปีที่แล้ว

    The C# the go after the Kayleigh's solo has to be my favorite modulation of all time, it sounds just heavenly

  • @a.debree6771
    @a.debree6771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been a long time ago and I am going along with you (Thanks for The Who).

  • @Draugh39
    @Draugh39 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The song from the Fish-era I would like you to have a go at, is "Grendel". It is about 18 minutes long but it does contains a few "twists and turns".

  • @timoseppa9124
    @timoseppa9124 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! More than one song from Misplaced Childhood! Well done. Best album ever. Yes, best album ever. A couple of the other songs completely give me goosebumps, still. As I've mentioned elsewhere, in an Iron Maiden tour book circa Somewhere in Time, Bruce Dickinson mentioned that he loved this album.

  • @peterknicked
    @peterknicked 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this album. It's a journey

  • @markfeggeler3479
    @markfeggeler3479 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my all time favorite albums.

  • @typxxilps
    @typxxilps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    pretty many comments cause I found this channel today when listening to the re upload of queen at Live Aid 1985 where I always remember the heat of that day and my preparation of our racing shell after the concert had started and I had to take a break, 2 hours later I went back and
    misplaced childhood was the album of that weekend in the prepartion of my last country champs or better heats and finals before being drafted to my military duty back then. I heard it day in and out on my walkman just to get the mood for the race ... but still the U2, Queen and howard jones tunes in my mind as Phil Collins face value I guess.
    Marillion became the name of another racing shell and the brother of my then girl friend was the biggest Marillion fan of all who died a few years later in an unsolved car accident and took her with him.
    Still enjoy Fish , also Marillion, but nothing comes close to the early albums and the art work we lost when Vinyl disappeared.
    Still have some of these well crafted albums in Vinyl with the huge booklet.

  • @regnadkcin6702
    @regnadkcin6702 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Lavender he's the song what he heard the children are singing, the children are singing a version of an old nursery rhyme, the dilly, dilly is part of the rhyme.

  • @vampiroangelico
    @vampiroangelico ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It makes perfect sense that Fish's voice reminds you of Peter Gabriel, as he was his main influence, and Genesis was Marillion's main influence at the time. Then, they evolved and crafted their own individuality with Steve Hogarth on vocals and songwriting.

  • @Vortigan07
    @Vortigan07 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'll bet that more than a few of us know a now thirtysomething "Kayleigh"! A fantastic album, this. Time to dig it out and revisit it, I think.

  • @MarmiteTheDog
    @MarmiteTheDog ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do an Extended Play reaction to Script For A Jester's Tear - it's pure magic

  • @10CentHead
    @10CentHead 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite albums from the era

  • @martijn7416
    @martijn7416 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Geweldig

  • @flomalheur7467
    @flomalheur7467 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for sharing songs from the album "Misplaced Childhood" with us (you hear it far too rarely on the "reaction channels"). Certainly not Marillion's most virtuoso or most complex album, but perhaps the most soulful. Too bad you didn't include the next song "Bitter Suite" as well. For me, that is an essential part of it.

    • @JoriDiculous
      @JoriDiculous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bitter Suit is brilliant. Best part of the album.

    • @guisav
      @guisav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me, Lavender and Bitter Suite have to go together. The contrast between them is magic.

    • @JoriDiculous
      @JoriDiculous 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@guisav Agree. Bitter suit is the best tracks on the album. Blind Curve and Childhood's End sums up the album pretty good too.

  • @danielmoore4693
    @danielmoore4693 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The rest of the album after Lavender is more interesting musically, even getting into some metal and prog styles one wouldn't expect from this sampling. MC is the breakout album for Marillion internationally, and straddles the line between pop and the more typically complex music Marillion we're doing in the first two parts of this album trilogy. I'll always maintain the 80s were the last widely interesting decade of published music, and that Marillion were an indisputable part of that.

  • @steveclarke6257
    @steveclarke6257 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doug goes back into my youth, sixth form common rooms, the pub and bar room games.

  • @klipkultur2951
    @klipkultur2951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We know these lyrics by heart Doug... just listen...

  • @JeffTiberend
    @JeffTiberend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A few years ago I heard Kayleigh on a local rock station. I was so hooked on Marillon.

  • @martijnalexanderkugel9646
    @martijnalexanderkugel9646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This album=My Childhood. I listened this album over and over. Classic!