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The real hero of the movie was the alien worm that killed the incompetent geologist who couldn't orient himself and the incompetent biologist who couldn't identify that the creature had a hostile attitude.
This was a big part of why I dislike this movie. The sheer incompetence of these supposed scientists. The original movie was about a bunch of "space truckers" that had more sense than these eggheads.
I watched Prometheus in the theaters the first weekend it opened. It looked great, because I love sci-fi movies. But I limited my viewing of the trailers as much as I could, because for the last 20 years or more, trailers tend to reveal more that I want to see... especially not that they have multiple teaser trailers, then multiples full trailers. It's actually quite frustrating. So I entered the theater knowing virtually nothing about the primes of the movie. I was in the 6th grade when Alien was released in 1979 and was too young to watch it in the theater. However I did get to watch it on cable a couple of years later when I was in the 8th grade. It scared the life out of me. I watched it at least 3 or 4 times in one week. Fast forward to Prometheus. Everything reminded me of of the original as the movie continued, but I could not connect the dots until the end. I stopped watching the franchise after Alien 3, and I had forgotten that the Wayland corporation was THE company from the original movies. But when David first discovered the bridge... I kept thinking to myself... "This looks so familiar... where have I seen this?" When the first hologram of the ship came up I thought... "Hold on... it can't be". When the engineer entered the seat, and his bio-suit surrounded him... he became the same as the space jockey from the 1979 encounter. I was in shock. As the spaceship lifted out of the hanger... laterally full body chills. I think I had a tear in my eye. Suddenly EVERYTHING clicked into place, and I understood I was watching a prequal to Alien. The scope of this movie was breathtaking.. at least it was to me. Loved your reaction!
The film David watches and quotes is Lawrence of Arabia (1962). It is a very good film about the life of T. E. Lawrence and his involvement in the Great Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Empire during World War I.
If you remember back to the original Alien film when Ripley and crew go down to the planet to investigate, they come upon an alien ship with a giant body inside sitting in a chair that looks like something had burst out of it's chest (foreshadowing what was to come to one of the crew). That giant body was an Engineer (originally referred to as the "space jockey") and that ship was the same type of ship you see here in Prometheus. The idea for Prometheus was essentially born out of Ridley Scott asking the question, who was this "space jockey" in the chair and his desire to explore who exactly were these 'Engineers'? Yea there is alot of Easter eggs everywhere in this film. Covenant was originally supposed to further explore these concepts/ideas and personally I wish Ridley would have committed to doing such but it ended up being a bit of one foot in one foot out but that's all I'll say on that because I don't want to spoil anything.
Ridley didn't have a choice. The Studio hired multiple people to rewrite the Covenant script. Kind of hard to show your vision when the script was rewritten multiple times from Ridley's original concept at the Studio's insistence.
But it is not. This movie has ZERO connection to Alien. The Space jockey they encountered in Alien was so old it had fossilized. Yet, this movie is supposed to take place a mere 27 years before the Nostromo lands on LV-426.
Prometheus writers : Super expensive space ship, project that took decades to put together, hire the most stupid messed up people to fly it. Alien the movie was crewed by the equivalent of space truckers, in it for the money and willing to put up with time dilation issue of coming back to a much older planet while you were a frozen popsicle. This should have been a NASA level trip manned by the best of the best woken up months earlier to prepare.
Yeah this bothered me too, it should've also been a much larger expedition, a 100 people at the very least, with a sizeable security contingent. If for nothing else than to ensure cabin fever doesn't kill everyone. The characters were written to be godawfully stupid as well, taking their helmets off, even when the atmosphere is breathable is one of the dumbest things you could do, you have no idea what kind of pathogens and dangers lurk in that air.
It was a private expedition funded by a wildly rich billionaire (quadrillionaire?) The professionalism of the crew probably wasn't at the top of the list of his criteria when choosing them. If that sounds scary,........or familiar,.......... .....it should.
@@CbricklyneThat makes it make less sense, especially seeing as how the dude was with them the whole time, he's the one with the most skin in the game.
@bloodaxis .....and also the one closest to death,....don't forget. And therefore arguably the one with the least at stake, despite all his wealth. His primary concern and priority was simply getting there and potentially making contact with his 'Maker', and for both of those needs, he had all the professionalism he needed in the form of David.
The movie at 2:50 is the classic Laurence of Arabia considered the best movie ever by Stephen Spielberg who watches it before he makes any movie. It is the greatest epic movie in film history IMHO. You really should react to it. It is incredible.
Prometheus defied the Olympian Gods by stealing fire from them and giving it to man, beginning our use of technology. Zeus was... displeased and had him chained to a big rock. Every day an eagle would eat his liver and every night it grew back.
@ReactDG-rk4im Hollywood in general does not. That info is only allowed to the very top of the 1%. There's no way they care enough about the rest of us to give out any truthful info.
@@billthomas478 in Covent I still can’t get over them removing their helmets in a foreign planet with all kinds of possible viruses around. Fucking idiots.
the fact that they didn’t find their way out despite leaving way before Shaw, i remember when it cut to them lost i was legitimately like “WTF!?”, it’d been like 30 fucking minutes, all they had to do was retrace their steps, and they basically had a map like you said, not to mention Shaw makes it out in a panic with no problem
One thing I love is the scene where David asks “How far would you go to get what you came all this way for?” He’s technically getting consent to perform human experimentation on the crew member. It’s a paper thin justification but it seems like he needs it to go forward.
If these scientists are the best and brightest humanity has to offer then the average humans must lick windows for fun. Loved the reaction and now you know what "The Prometheus school of running" is :)
Despite all the hate this movie gets, I actually really like it. It's a beautiful movie and I like the characters, production design, and music, and really wish they did a true sequel to this instead of what we got. Although I think they could still salvage it. The wacky misaventrues of a girl and her robot. Sounds like another sci-fi show but I would have been up for it. IMO, this is a good blueprint of how a Star Trek horror movie could be done. Envoy comes on the ship, tells them to go look here. Landing party beams down and finds some alien ruins, red shirts do some incredibly stupid stuff that exposes the crew. Horror happens and Kirk, Spock and Bones figures it out and kicks ass. Or talks to them and makes peace...
Yeah, Earth's air is breathable but that doesn't mean it can't be contaminated. It was a cool looking movie but so much stupidity just so it could tie into the first movie.
Fun fact, I met Ian Whyte (The Engineer) at a con here in the uk and I asked him (this was after the release of Covenant) if he felt the 3rd part was coming. He said he had spoken with studio and would likely be filming the following summer. I asked if hes involved does it mean hed be another Engineer and he wryly smiled saying 'possibly'. So I can assume the 3rd film 'would' have had engineers in it asthey were the highlight for me. Sadly were off on a tangent now with Romulus Also, didnt you notice Jen the engineers are the spacejockey from the original Alien movie
Covenant ahouldve been about Shaw's journey to the engineer planet. The actress did such an amazing job playing Shaw. Would've loved to see more of her as Shaw. Engineers, black goo, would've been so much better than David creating the xenomorphs in Covenant.
Also, they get lost in the caves despite the fact that they mapped out the place. And don't even get me started on the guy who tried to pet the slimy space snake.
After the events of 2020, the idea of someone taking off their helmet with no regard for their or other's safety because they didn't want to wear it anymore ended up being the most realistic part of this movie.
Agreed, the space truckers from the first alien were smarter, Ripley was astute enough to order a quarantine of Cain and the away mission. Dr. Holloway was an obnoxious fool and the others were dumb to remove their helmets.
I was in college when this movie came out. One of the kids from my childhood worked at an IMAX theater, and he would get people in to see movies for free. I saw a bunch of free stuff back then, including this. This movie was so visually appealing that It was hard to believe that anything could ever look better.
Ahhh... you forget, Data isn't the only trustworthy android. Bishop was also trustworthy. It was Bishop Weyland, the human Bishop the android was based on, that was untrustworthy.
@Mackampackam Good 👍 point. Although Alien 3 and 4 usually get the shaft from First Time watchers. Meaning, their not popular enough to even be considered to watch. But who knows. Jenn sounds interested in watching Covenant. That wasn't as well received as Prometheus. -OG
It's the company that's the real villian in all these Alien movies , greedy, inhuman , selfish, kind of like today where mega corporations rule everything on this Earth!
In the original Alien movie, they also discovered a large humanoid who had his chest burst from the inside on that planet before they discovered all the pods containing the face-huggers. We now know, from this Prometheus film, that the large humanoid was an "engineer" as described in the film. -OG
Dude.. have you been living under the rock? These days it feels like half the Earth's population is way more braindead than this. Prometheus was just ahead of it's time displaying the braindeadedness of a human.
- " ... Okay people, we are looking at the extremely venomous ancestor of the modern Xenomorph species... highly dangerous and very deadly ... I'm going to lick it ... "
While Prometheus may not be straight up horror, it truly has some terrifying elements and acts a prologue to what would become the Alien legacy. i think anyone who is a fan of the Alien franchise should watch this movie atleast once. Its worth it to atleast see some of the origin of what would bring about the existence of the Xenomorph as well as the events of the Alien saga. Second point i'd like to make. As I said, Prometheus is like a prologue. So by that logic, Covenant is the first chapter. I am sure some ppl will try to tell you to skip it, but i highly recommend you watch Covenant as well. It is a solid scifi horror film that i think is worth watching. It truly pays love to both Prometheus and the first Alien film. not the best films in the series but both Prometheus and Covenant establish very interesting lore to the whole Alien franchise 🙏
I think that's the problem a lot of people had with it. If you go in expecting it to be a straight up scifi horror film with a super tight and suspenseful plot you will be disappointed. You have to allow yourself to enjoy it for what it is, i.e. a philosophical character-driven film in which the action sequences are there mostly as a backdrop or for symbolic purposes.
33:50 - yeah, so, don't run like that, Jen. It's bad school of running! (if you ever hear the meme of: The Prometheus School of Running, now you understand it)
people want to believe that they would act differently from that, but it is debunked by footage of multiple catastrophic events on camera where people instinctively run straight in situations like these. when something like this happens, you dont have time to rationally think your way out, you act or freeze, your brain doesnt let you think unless you are conditioned to stressful situations like these.
David's actions were consistent with the desires of Mr Weyland. When Weyland died, David became "free" to exercise his own behaviors and actions. This is even more apparent in Alien Covenant, when the "defective" Android David became completely rogue.
So many plotholes but the underlying idea was amazing for this movie. I wished they had continued the story with Shaw actually going to the engineer planet and learning about them and the black goo and why they created humans how they did it. Instead they made Covenant.
Omg I Love You Jen for watching this movie it's definitely one of my favorites. Noomi Rapace Is An Amazing Actress and deserves to be up there among the Best. All her movies are Amazing!!! 🙌👏💯🖤
Really looking forward to making a première again and the editors did an amazing job with this one it's a belter of a reaction 🎉 Jen and her editors really are the bees knees 🔥oh and the thumbnail is epic so good I love it 🙌
Jen! I was wondering why you didn't recognize stuff. Makes sense, since you saw Alien only once...there WAS a lot to digest for sure. Remember when the Nostromo landed and the crew went out to find the horseshoe-shaped ship with the huge skeleton that had its ribs pushed out from inside? Remember how the skull looked? As advanced as the Engineers were, Prometheus shows those creatures were the bane of the Engineers' existence. :)
Great review!!! I really do not care much for this movie, but it is very well acted to a point, and the effects are just awesome. Also, this is the movie where the TH-cam channel Cinemasins gets its iconic phrase, "Prometheus School of Running" because of the spaceship crashing then rolling onto Charlee Theron's character for she would not get out of the way.
oh hell yeah! you're really my favorite movie reactor thank you for reaching to this! it's a very polarizing movie i love it because it's thought provoking and visually stunning i don't understand why some have such a negative opinion on it, i guess it's just not for everyone as some stuff is but i love movies that makes me think about mortality meaning of life etc
A popular theory is that the Engineer only decided to wipe out humanity after Weyland threatened Elizabeth. It was there that he saw how evil humans can be.
Hi, Jen, watching it again, because I can't help myself ;-) The piano music you liked at 2:30 is Chopin's Prelude op. 28 no 15, "Raindrop". I played this one reasonably well in high school. The name comes from conductor Hans von Bulow, a buddy of Brahms, my personal favorite. Von Bulow gave a name to each of the op. 28 preludes.
@@jrneal1220I take it you're referring to Wagner, who stole von Bulow's wife. It's amazing the number of connections von Bulow had to so many 19th century composers.
It's different but I still love it. What kills me is the retcons though. Especially now LV-426 has a giant, breached, activated bioweapons facility and many ships just a few klicks from where the colony parked.
Oh, good, I'm on time for the premiere. Thought I'd miss it, since I just removed my own gall bladder in an automated surgical pod. April Fool! See ya in the chat, Jen!
Thank you for still another GREAT reaction! This was a perfect topic; I just finished watching SpaceX near where I live. So cool. If you ever come to Los Angeles, let me know!! We can watch movies, rockets, and far more!
16:27 Unbelievable, they discovered interstellar life, ruins of an unknown civilization, advanced technology and a potentially habitable satellite and he's depressed.
I feel like you don’t have a religious background and are probably atheist because i would completely understand his depression. I’d be depressed to find out there was nothing special about my existence, and to find out that there is most likely nothing after death. And these are scientists who have dedicated their lives towards this and are going to be more susceptible to negative reactions because they might not get the answers they’ve spent their whole lives looking for. It seems like he wanted to find proof of divine creation and was met with reality. You’re incapable of putting yourself in the mind space of someone else. How could someone NOT be depressed after finding out that life isn’t what they thought and that theyre out in the middle of the universe and no one really knows or cares? And that if they died on a planet in the middle of nowhere(like they all did) that nothing would come out of it?
When a good friend was slamming this movie, I told him that I liked it, and after a moment of shock, he lowered his head and put his hand up as if he were wounded and need a moment to recover, then took a breath and gasped "I'm sorry. I just lost a little bit of respect for you."
Hi Jen! You're looking lovely if I may say! Do you remember in the first Alien movie where they come across that large Alien sitting in a big machine? The captain mentions how it looks as if something had burst out of his chest. That's the same Alien guy, at least I think, that gets into the big machine to fly it. Also, when you see the large creature come out of that room, the one that was inside her but now much larger; That's what later becomes a face hugger. It's basically how it began before they evolved over time. While many criticise these movies, I personally like them although I do have my own issues with them. I shall not mention them here as I don't wish yo give anything away just in case you do choose to watch the next one, which I recommend. A wonderful reaction as always. Have a great day hun, take care! ❤
The only "bad" thing about this movie is that the technology looks so much newer than the sequel from 1968, I'm refering to holograms and all of that are out of place being a prequel instead of buttons everywhere. The trailer for Alien Romulus looks like they fixed that error of continuity.
That is the classic movie 'Laurence of Arabia'. I highly suggest you watch it. Brilliant movie with the guy who played Obi-Wan in that first Star Wars movie,.
A team of professionals my eye! This movie promised so much and delivered so little. It was also cut and butchered to the death, several critical scenes are missing.
I always thought the stupidest character in the movie was Shaw at the end. Most of them rest made incredibly stupid and reckless decisions but weren't actively trying to die. Shaw finds out the Engineers were planning to wipe out humanity and decides the best course of action is not to go home and warm people but to rock up to their doorstep and demand 'why' from a civilisation the planned on wiping out humanity. In what universe does this possibly not end in her immediate DEATH?
Here's a fun fact: There are 4 androids and each android's name begins with the corresponding letter of the alphabet Alien: Ash Aliens: Bishop Alien Resurrection: Call Prometheus: David.
The main reference and connection with the original Alien movie is that the wreckage of the alien spacecraft that crashed at the end is the one they find and explore in the first movie. I really like Prometheus, although it didn't get great reviews when it came out. I like Alien Covenant too, and without giving away any spoilers, I'm desperate for a third movie as I really want to find out what happens with the David storyline in the end. By the way, the movie David was watching and imitating on the voyage was Lawrence of Arabia.
Are you aware that 'ALIEN: Romulus' is due for release very soon? It is set between A L I E N and Aliens. The look & feel of the movie is more towards A L I E N. Check the trailer.
The Alien references that you missed. 1: The Engineers. The Engineer suits were made to look like the space jockey the crew of the Nostromo found in the alien ship. This is one of my biggest contentions with this movie. It's clear that the space jockey was a actual skeleton and not some space suit. 2: The alien ship was the same type of ship that they found on LV-426. 3: The pilot console that the engineer sat at as he took off was the same device the space jockey was sitting at in Alien. 4: Shaw's "baby" was a giant pre-cursor to the face hugger. 5: The creature that came out of the Engineer was a early version of the Xenomorph from Alien.
Despite one or two good moments and some nice effects, this was such a labored attempt to connect some dots which didn't need connecting. The alien was supposed to be inscrutable and unknown (you know, alien) but they felt the need to explain its origins. Shame because the trailers really sold me on this.
Seems like you had a preference and didn't like that your preference irrelevant. Not trying to be rude, but the film wasn't that bad. It had a good story, Shaw and David were by far the best in the film, and telling a sorta prelude what will later become the Alien series is perfectly fine if it fleshes out the world a franchise a little, which it did. I respect that you wanted the xenomorph's origins to remain ambiguous, but unfortunately you cant always get what you want. I think the criticism for this film and Covenant are based a little too strongly on biased and perhaps entitled opinions on how the Alien franchise should be. Sadly we the audience rarely are able to shape canon, we merely observe it.
@@TeeDiss The criticisms for this have more to do with the lazy storytelling (particularly the all-purpose black goo that does whatever the scene needs it to do) and trying to across all lofty when it really has nothing to say.
@@TeeDissExcept for the fact that none of the story makes any logical sense in any way. How does a black goo (that deconstructs bio mass down to the DNA) go from infecting a human (that makes a worm somehow instead of dissolving him), to than transfer to another human through sexual intercourse (that somehow makes her pregnant in a matter of hours), to then becoming a completely different and unique organism somehow, to then impregnating a completely different species, which then creates another completely different and unique organism, that somehow turns into the organisms in Alien, which are also completely different. There is nothing in those steps that even remotely makes sense or connects them in anyway. And not to mention the absolute stupidity of nearly every character in the movie that does exactly the worst and stupidest thing possible so that these events can happen. The look and feel of the movie are good, but the story and writing are absolute garbage.
@@sumotode Well ultimately I'm not trying to convince you. But since you brought some strong thoughts, which are valid btw, I must point out that you're working under the assumption that the black goo only works one way? This is all theoretic since in fact this is just a movie, but It may depend on a number of factors. For example, since the molecules of that goo are spreading through Holloway's body, we know that It passed onto Shaw through their sex. Obviously seeing as it's an alien substance that we can't fully understand those molecules then mixed with the eggs and fertilized instead of breaking down. Why? Because it had that ability. Maybe because it was a woman it entered and because it entered and was embedded in an egg, rather than just the rest the body. What you're saying is it doesn't make sense, as if we were given an explanation at any point that the goo ONLY deconstructs biomass or that every molecule within the black goo is the same.. your gripe is that a science fiction movie doesn't fully logically explain how its possible to have both outcomes of creative and destructive properties? Then let's put it to RL logic-- Do atoms not create life and also have the power to destroy it depending on the circumstances? You're completely in your right to disagree, but I must disagree with the assertion that a sci-fi movie should have to explain every last molecular process/sequences of events for you.. you're correct that it doesn't make sense, because it's using faux science. Hence why it's called Science Fiction. Obviously there will be a little bit of so called "scientific elements" that make it convincing. In truth I can't argue that the science makes sense because in movie world, it's alien science. And in our real world, it's faux science. Either way, there is just enough logic in the real world to make the sequences of events you criticize possible, but you're choosing to not accept them while judging this faux science by RL science. Lastly, I agree the characters are annoying, but I also believe this too is explainable. But that's more a matter of preference. Sorry to ramble.
If you like the actress the plays Dr. Shaw, Noomi Rapace, I highly suggest the Swedish Millennium trilogy, which begins with the ORIGINAL The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, and its two subsequent sequels The Girl Who Played with Fire, and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornets Nest.
I think one thing this movie shows is that even an android (or "artificial person" as Bishop preferred to be called) can become psychotic if left by themself for too long.
Since it is an artificial person - why would they turn psychotic? Why would the movie "show this" - you seem to consider this some sort of "obviously it must be so" proof? A computer is no more or less psychotic if it is on for one day or 10 years - so why must "even an android" be any different?
The only thing this really had to do for me to like it as a prequel was to end with everything the way the crew of the Nostromo finds it. It really looks like they intended to do that then changed some things at the last second so they could say "Different planet! Haha".
I'm gonna be honest, when I first watched this movie On Demand (a place that you can watch movies for free or rent) I had no clue this was related to the Alien franchise or that Alien Covenant was the sequel. 💜
It is incredible how Ridley Scott is the director of this film full of script errors, meaningless things and such absurd decisions and he is the same one who made Alien
I don't know. I think maybe you might be judging it a little too harshly. The film is good overall in my opinion. I would love to see what you count as script "errors" because to me it seemed like the script was written quite well. But we could just have different opinions of what constitutes as errors. I can probably lend credence to the fact that the characters, apart from Shaw and David, werent really that good. In fact, Shaw and David are the only characters I liked in the film really. As for absurd decisions, i would also like to know what you mean by that. Character decisions or directing decisions? If character, i can sorta see why you would say that. if its directing, please feel free to explain if you'd like.
@@TeeDiss 1. Ok, everyone knows that space suits are not only for breathing but also for protecting you from other things, taking off the helmet is nothing short of a very stupid decision. . 2.- There you have a biologist who, without taking precautions, plays with a creature that clearly has a hostile attitude, and an incompetent geologist who despite drawing the map of the structure, gets lost. . 3.- There Holloway becomes depressed despite having made many important discoveries for humanity and then does not tell anyone that he had that worm in his eye until it is too late, putting the entire crew at risk. . 4.- There is Benjamin Button whose plan is to ask some aliens who he doesn't know if they are friendly or not how to cure his illness that perhaps those engineers don't know about. . 5.- Shaw tries to ask the engineers why they wanted to kill humanity and they don't allow him to speak even though that was a very good question... . Etc
To be fair, the Soldiers in Aliens (A2) were supposedly highly trained and made some dumb decisions throughout. John Hurt's character in Alien, was wearing his suit and helmet and a facehugger still got him. Smart and dumb ppl have all succumb the Alien threats. I feel like thats the point of the overall story, theres no controlling the outcome, not when it comes to these powerful creatures. but best humanity can do is leave them alone. -- Weyland's plan for longer life is foolish but that's the point, in his ignorance he wants to asks for immortality from his creators, believing them to be of a divine existence compared to humans. Weyland was purposely arrogant and ignorant so as to meet his inevitable downfall. -- Holloway didnt know what he had, he saw something in the mirror but he didnt really know what it was. But i can agree that he put ppl in danger. Still, once he realized that he was a threat to everyone he let himself be set on fire. -- Shaw asked a question, but Weyland cared more about his goal than whatever Shaw was asking. It might be a good question but to Weyland the rest of humanity is irrelevant. He wanted his immortality, Shaw's existential question is irrelevant to him. We the audience know the question matters. But to a man like Weyland, she's just interrupting HIS goals. I'm not saying you're wrong and I'm sure you have other valid complaints, I'm just saying these are sorta observations that I feel are valid counterpoints to your points. But I respect that we disagree 👌
Is that Solomon Lane? Distinct voice. Guy Pearce under all that old man prosthetic was well concealed. The Count Of Monte Cristo and The Time Machine are two of his work that I enjoyed!
This film doesn’t just make references to “Alien”, it is directly linked to it. The ship they discover is, I believe, the exact same one discovered by the Nostromo crew. After the whole crash landing sequence, the film makers went to great pains to make sure the ship finally rested in the exact same position as the ship in “Alien”. The alien pilot was probably infected prior to going into cryo, which would explain why they found him sitting in the chair with his chest exploded. Go back and watch both of them back to back and everything will hopefully make sense. Btw, the film David was watching is “Lawrence of Arabia”.
Lawrence of Arabia was my favorite movie a long time ago, 2001, A Space Odyssey was #2, but there's newer movies to choose from now. The robot guy was watching Lawrence of Arabia, it's a true story.
I saw this in theathers and it was pretty cool on a huge screen. The movie at the begining is lawrence of arabia. A must watch classic that won several oscars with epic landscape shots. Imagine you go to a planet with zero level of tech aliens living on the planet... and theres basically only a few small villages on the entire planet... seems to me it would be quite a job to find them at all, theres a big chance you would think theres zero life on the planet... especially if theres like a few thousands intelligent aliens living in the forest... good luck finding em...
Alien: Covenant is an extremely divisive movie in the series. I would like to see your opinion of it. I like all the movies in the franchise in varying degrees. This one (Prometheus) has such a cool look about it and then style of the viscerality is stark contrast to it. I'll pop it in anytime I want some good sci-fi.
Jen, some references to Alien. The big tentacle creature (called a Trilobite, I think?), the way it enclosed the Engineer, is a direct reference to the facehugger. And the Deacon at the very end is the direct predecessor to the modern Xenomorph.
Don't trust any robots except Data! Good rule of thumb. :) I'm happy to watch any/all Alien movies you're willing to watch. They're good, scary fun. =)
You should watch Creator with Peter O-Toole and Vincent Spano. My favorite quote from the movie is "One day Boris, we will look into our microsocopes and find ourselves eye to eye with God. And the first one to blink is going to lose a testicle." 🙂
Fun facts: 1) The C-Section scene with Naomi Rapace’s (Shaw) stomach protruding up and down was not a visual effect. She was actually doing that herself and creeped the film crew out. 2) The item that came out of the floor of the ship that looked like a gun was a chair like the one the Alien crew found in the original movie with the engineer with the whole in his chest. 3) The ship is the same type seen in the original movie on the planet where they discovered the face hugger. 4) Ridley Scott insisted on limiting the amount of CGI which is why he hired actual 7 footers to play the Engineers instead of going CGI humanoid characters crazy like so many movies today.
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Absolutely! 💜
YES👍I Liked "Covenant" More than this one!
Covenant is definitely worth watching...
I'm also Voting for "Alien Vs. Predator"👍Short of watching "Predator 2" (Just-for-Fun), it's Safe-to-Say that Jen knows both Franchises / Both Species well enough to dive right into AVP👌and Enjoy it!
I can only answer one way Jen as you know by now 😅 would be a YES from me anyway 🔥
The real hero of the movie was the alien worm that killed the incompetent geologist who couldn't orient himself and the incompetent biologist who couldn't identify that the creature had a hostile attitude.
Um, that's a bit rough calling the alien thing the hero.
But both of them were a little stupid and arrogant but didn't deserve to die !
This was a big part of why I dislike this movie. The sheer incompetence of these supposed scientists. The original movie was about a bunch of "space truckers" that had more sense than these eggheads.
Yes, possibly the worst script in a long time. Almost laughable.
The guy mapping everything gets lost with the guy that was scared of everything dead but not an alive snake thing coming out of the muck.
@@jcappucino Coochi-coochi-coo, little hissing penis alien thingie!
🤖= "Don't trust em.... Unless it's Data" - Jen
But you cant differ Data from Lore!
Robby was okay!
@@ajivins1 Even R2D2 lied! Hid the message from the Empire... x)
@@gettygermanygood point. Although Lore can’t help but reveal himself, the narcissist that he is
Or Bishop.
I watched Prometheus in the theaters the first weekend it opened. It looked great, because I love sci-fi movies. But I limited my viewing of the trailers as much as I could, because for the last 20 years or more, trailers tend to reveal more that I want to see... especially not that they have multiple teaser trailers, then multiples full trailers. It's actually quite frustrating.
So I entered the theater knowing virtually nothing about the primes of the movie.
I was in the 6th grade when Alien was released in 1979 and was too young to watch it in the theater. However I did get to watch it on cable a couple of years later when I was in the 8th grade. It scared the life out of me. I watched it at least 3 or 4 times in one week.
Fast forward to Prometheus. Everything reminded me of of the original as the movie continued, but I could not connect the dots until the end. I stopped watching the franchise after Alien 3, and I had forgotten that the Wayland corporation was THE company from the original movies.
But when David first discovered the bridge... I kept thinking to myself... "This looks so familiar... where have I seen this?" When the first hologram of the ship came up I thought... "Hold on... it can't be". When the engineer entered the seat, and his bio-suit surrounded him... he became the same as the space jockey from the 1979 encounter.
I was in shock. As the spaceship lifted out of the hanger... laterally full body chills. I think I had a tear in my eye.
Suddenly EVERYTHING clicked into place, and I understood I was watching a prequal to Alien. The scope of this movie was breathtaking.. at least it was to me.
Loved your reaction!
And then you realize that this movie is supposed to take place a mere 27 years before the Nostromo lands on LV-426.
The film David watches and quotes is Lawrence of Arabia (1962). It is a very good film about the life of T. E. Lawrence and his involvement in the Great Arab Revolt against the Ottoman Empire during World War I.
Worth a watch in its own right, although it is quite long (one of those 'journey, not the destination' films)
I’m not sure that Jen is ready for that one yet.
@@jdelark6428 I like the "not about the destination" part you mention, given they tell you how it all ends in the first 3 minutes!
@@jimrobinson9979Lmao.
My favourite movie. The one which I can watch again and again if a competition comes.
If you remember back to the original Alien film when Ripley and crew go down to the planet to investigate, they come upon an alien ship with a giant body inside sitting in a chair that looks like something had burst out of it's chest (foreshadowing what was to come to one of the crew). That giant body was an Engineer (originally referred to as the "space jockey") and that ship was the same type of ship you see here in Prometheus. The idea for Prometheus was essentially born out of Ridley Scott asking the question, who was this "space jockey" in the chair and his desire to explore who exactly were these 'Engineers'? Yea there is alot of Easter eggs everywhere in this film. Covenant was originally supposed to further explore these concepts/ideas and personally I wish Ridley would have committed to doing such but it ended up being a bit of one foot in one foot out but that's all I'll say on that because I don't want to spoil anything.
Ridley didn't have a choice. The Studio hired multiple people to rewrite the Covenant script. Kind of hard to show your vision when the script was rewritten multiple times from Ridley's original concept at the Studio's insistence.
But it is not. This movie has ZERO connection to Alien.
The Space jockey they encountered in Alien was so old it had fossilized.
Yet, this movie is supposed to take place a mere 27 years before the Nostromo lands on LV-426.
@@Merecir not here to debate potential plot holes. Simply pointing out to Jen a couple easter eggs she missed and the genesis of the movie in general.
It's not the same ship, and it's on the moon next door; LV-426 and LV-223 both orbit the same planet@@Merecir
33:40 And that's the birth of "Ah, so you went to the Prometheus school of running away from things"
Prometheus writers : Super expensive space ship, project that took decades to put together, hire the most stupid messed up people to fly it. Alien the movie was crewed by the equivalent of space truckers, in it for the money and willing to put up with time dilation issue of coming back to a much older planet while you were a frozen popsicle. This should have been a NASA level trip manned by the best of the best woken up months earlier to prepare.
Yeah this bothered me too, it should've also been a much larger expedition, a 100 people at the very least, with a sizeable security contingent. If for nothing else than to ensure cabin fever doesn't kill everyone. The characters were written to be godawfully stupid as well, taking their helmets off, even when the atmosphere is breathable is one of the dumbest things you could do, you have no idea what kind of pathogens and dangers lurk in that air.
It was a private expedition funded by a wildly rich billionaire (quadrillionaire?)
The professionalism of the crew probably wasn't at the top of the list of his criteria when choosing them.
If that sounds scary,........or familiar,..........
.....it should.
Yeah, this is what scares me about moving away from NASA and going private sector - you get what you pay for 😬
@@CbricklyneThat makes it make less sense, especially seeing as how the dude was with them the whole time, he's the one with the most skin in the game.
@bloodaxis
.....and also the one closest to death,....don't forget.
And therefore arguably the one with the least at stake, despite all his wealth.
His primary concern and priority was simply getting there and potentially making contact with his 'Maker', and for both of those needs, he had all the professionalism he needed in the form of David.
The movie at 2:50 is the classic Laurence of Arabia considered the best movie ever by Stephen Spielberg who watches it before he makes any movie. It is the greatest epic movie in film history IMHO. You really should react to it. It is incredible.
Prometheus defied the Olympian Gods by stealing fire from them and giving it to man, beginning our use of technology. Zeus was... displeased and had him chained to a big rock. Every day an eagle would eat his liver and every night it grew back.
@ReactDG-rk4im Hollywood in general does not. That info is only allowed to the very top of the 1%. There's no way they care enough about the rest of us to give out any truthful info.
I was always amazed at how quickly Dr. Shaw recovered from her major abdominal surgery 😂
Advanced late 21st Century/early 22nd Century medical science technology.
It's far from the most unbelievable or least credible thing in this movie.
@@Cbricklyne Staples? Yes.. high tech.
@@myfreakyvalentineyes he was obviously talking about the staples...dumbass 😂
@@myfreakyvalentine Well, administered by a robot machine not from a human being so it's a bit more advanced !
I remember thinking she was flying on pain meds and adrenalin afterwards. She wasn't recovered. Maybe we put more thought into this than they did. 😉
The crew getting lost after a super detailed laser cartography scan always gave me a chuckle
It's because this one and the next several have some of the dumbest characters imaginable
Almost as stupid as the biologist cuddling with a space cobra.
@@billthomas478 in Covent I still can’t get over them removing their helmets in a foreign planet with all kinds of possible viruses around. Fucking idiots.
the fact that they didn’t find their way out despite leaving way before Shaw, i remember when it cut to them lost i was legitimately like “WTF!?”, it’d been like 30 fucking minutes, all they had to do was retrace their steps, and they basically had a map like you said, not to mention Shaw makes it out in a panic with no problem
They are absolute idiots hired by wayland
One thing I love is the scene where David asks “How far would you go to get what you came all this way for?”
He’s technically getting consent to perform human experimentation on the crew member. It’s a paper thin justification but it seems like he needs it to go forward.
If these scientists are the best and brightest humanity has to offer then the average humans must lick windows for fun. Loved the reaction and now you know what "The Prometheus school of running" is :)
Prometheus had so much promise. I don't know if it was Ridley Scott or the Studio, but it in the end it was a mere Prolapseus
Despite all the hate this movie gets, I actually really like it. It's a beautiful movie and I like the characters, production design, and music, and really wish they did a true sequel to this instead of what we got. Although I think they could still salvage it. The wacky misaventrues of a girl and her robot. Sounds like another sci-fi show but I would have been up for it. IMO, this is a good blueprint of how a Star Trek horror movie could be done. Envoy comes on the ship, tells them to go look here. Landing party beams down and finds some alien ruins, red shirts do some incredibly stupid stuff that exposes the crew. Horror happens and Kirk, Spock and Bones figures it out and kicks ass. Or talks to them and makes peace...
10:13 Why do they take off their helmets? Although the air is breathable, it does not mean that many other dangers do not exist.
I'd assume that they have bio filters/detectors? But yeah, it's super dumb
Yeah, Earth's air is breathable but that doesn't mean it can't be contaminated. It was a cool looking movie but so much stupidity just so it could tie into the first movie.
Fun fact, I met Ian Whyte (The Engineer) at a con here in the uk and I asked him (this was after the release of Covenant) if he felt the 3rd part was coming. He said he had spoken with studio and would likely be filming the following summer. I asked if hes involved does it mean hed be another Engineer and he wryly smiled saying 'possibly'. So I can assume the 3rd film 'would' have had engineers in it asthey were the highlight for me. Sadly were off on a tangent now with Romulus
Also, didnt you notice Jen the engineers are the spacejockey from the original Alien movie
Covenant ahouldve been about Shaw's journey to the engineer planet. The actress did such an amazing job playing Shaw. Would've loved to see more of her as Shaw. Engineers, black goo, would've been so much better than David creating the xenomorphs in Covenant.
Taking their helmets off immediately makes them the dumbest space travelers in the future of mankind.
Even the dude "Guy" from Galaxy Quest knew this.
Plus, the guys mapping the caves got lost. 😂
Yeh, it's ridiculous.
Also, they get lost in the caves despite the fact that they mapped out the place. And don't even get me started on the guy who tried to pet the slimy space snake.
After the events of 2020, the idea of someone taking off their helmet with no regard for their or other's safety because they didn't want to wear it anymore ended up being the most realistic part of this movie.
Agreed, the space truckers from the first alien were smarter, Ripley was astute enough to order a quarantine of Cain and the away mission. Dr. Holloway was an obnoxious fool and the others were dumb to remove their helmets.
I was in college when this movie came out. One of the kids from my childhood worked at an IMAX theater, and he would get people in to see movies for free.
I saw a bunch of free stuff back then, including this. This movie was so visually appealing that It was hard to believe that anything could ever look better.
20:36 Why didn't he tell anyone he had that thing in his eye? If it happened to me I would be desperate calling everyone to remove that worm.
For the same reason that no one else in the movie acts how they should outside of a couple of people.
Because writing is hawd can i has monies nao :(
Ahhh... you forget, Data isn't the only trustworthy android. Bishop was also trustworthy. It was Bishop Weyland, the human Bishop the android was based on, that was untrustworthy.
Bishop was arguably more stable than Data.
@@Mackampackam Wasn't Winona Ryder a synthetic droid in Resurrection? So, she would be trustworthy too. -OG
@@suproliver I am not discussing a film Jen hasn't seen here, since I consider that a spoiler.
@Mackampackam Good 👍 point. Although Alien 3 and 4 usually get the shaft from First Time watchers. Meaning, their not popular enough to even be considered to watch. But who knows. Jenn sounds interested in watching Covenant. That wasn't as well received as Prometheus. -OG
It's the company that's the real villian in all these Alien movies , greedy, inhuman , selfish, kind
of like today where mega corporations rule everything on this Earth!
Noomi Rapace is a phenomenal actress!
In the original Alien movie, they also discovered a large humanoid who had his chest burst from the inside on that planet before they discovered all the pods containing the face-huggers. We now know, from this Prometheus film, that the large humanoid was an "engineer" as described in the film. -OG
This is why I love Jen; she knows who 'Crosby, Stills, and Nash' is.
Sees a snake on an alien planet, surrounded by corpses. Immediately pets it. No one is that brain dead.
Dude.. have you been living under the rock? These days it feels like half the Earth's population is way more braindead than this. Prometheus was just ahead of it's time displaying the braindeadedness of a human.
Because being lost on an alien planet surrounded by alien corpses is the place where logical and rational decisions happen.
- " ... Okay people, we are looking at the extremely venomous ancestor of the modern Xenomorph species... highly dangerous and very deadly ... I'm going to lick it ... "
While Prometheus may not be straight up horror, it truly has some terrifying elements and acts a prologue to what would become the Alien legacy. i think anyone who is a fan of the Alien franchise should watch this movie atleast once. Its worth it to atleast see some of the origin of what would bring about the existence of the Xenomorph as well as the events of the Alien saga.
Second point i'd like to make. As I said, Prometheus is like a prologue. So by that logic, Covenant is the first chapter. I am sure some ppl will try to tell you to skip it, but i highly recommend you watch Covenant as well. It is a solid scifi horror film that i think is worth watching. It truly pays love to both Prometheus and the first Alien film. not the best films in the series but both Prometheus and Covenant establish very interesting lore to the whole Alien franchise 🙏
Funny, I didn't care for either of these films, but I do think everyone should watch them. Make up their own minds. After all, "One man's trash..."
I think that's the problem a lot of people had with it. If you go in expecting it to be a straight up scifi horror film with a super tight and suspenseful plot you will be disappointed. You have to allow yourself to enjoy it for what it is, i.e. a philosophical character-driven film in which the action sequences are there mostly as a backdrop or for symbolic purposes.
33:50 - yeah, so, don't run like that, Jen. It's bad school of running!
(if you ever hear the meme of: The Prometheus School of Running, now you understand it)
They change direction numerous times though so it's wholly inaccurate.
CinemaSins!
people want to believe that they would act differently from that, but it is debunked by footage of multiple catastrophic events on camera where people instinctively run straight in situations like these. when something like this happens, you dont have time to rationally think your way out, you act or freeze, your brain doesnt let you think unless you are conditioned to stressful situations like these.
Aliens left us star chart to some remote station for some reason. Biggest troll ever.
Love that medical bay scene, just pure horror 😮😂
"Likes David..."
"DOESN'T LIKE DAVID!!!"
😂
David was watching Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia. The winner of seven Oscars in 1962.
it is always fun to watch Jen try and avoid watching the icky parts of a movie! 😅 Great reaction once again Jen!
David's actions were consistent with the desires of Mr Weyland. When Weyland died, David became "free" to exercise his own behaviors and actions. This is even more apparent in Alien Covenant, when the "defective" Android David became completely rogue.
22:38 - 22:41 Somewhere in Angel Grove, the Dragonzord wakes up from the harbor after hearing that flute.
🎶Bah. Bah bah. Bahbahbah🎶
That first ship they discovered in Alien was on it’s way to release the contagion on earth but it failed because…Well you know
I don't think so. The ship was loaded with the later evolution 🧬 of species being animal not goo! ☮️
@@allengray5748 Goo just a hot minute longer to evolve.
@@allengray5748 that was going to be in the final prequel of at least 2 more films that Ridley was preparing.
@@k.delpino1124 Ya? madeintheshade is talking about the original movie 🍿🎥 No jars of goo. Just the leathery egg.
@@allengray5748 yes. But I mean how the ship got to LV 426.
So many plotholes but the underlying idea was amazing for this movie. I wished they had continued the story with Shaw actually going to the engineer planet and learning about them and the black goo and why they created humans how they did it. Instead they made Covenant.
That's what you get when the studio wants to go in a different direction than Ridley did.
In case your question hasn't already been answered, the movie David was watching in the beginning is Lawrence of Arabia.
Did you notice the Asian gent on the bridge? You might remember him as... Wong. 😁
Omg I Love You Jen for watching this movie it's definitely one of my favorites. Noomi Rapace Is An Amazing Actress and deserves to be up there among the Best. All her movies are Amazing!!! 🙌👏💯🖤
Really looking forward to making a première again and the editors did an amazing job with this one it's a belter of a reaction 🎉 Jen and her editors really are the bees knees 🔥oh and the thumbnail is epic so good I love it 🙌
Jen! I was wondering why you didn't recognize stuff. Makes sense, since you saw Alien only once...there WAS a lot to digest for sure. Remember when the Nostromo landed and the crew went out to find the horseshoe-shaped ship with the huge skeleton that had its ribs pushed out from inside? Remember how the skull looked? As advanced as the Engineers were, Prometheus shows those creatures were the bane of the Engineers' existence. :)
Great review!!! I really do not care much for this movie, but it is very well acted to a point, and the effects are just awesome. Also, this is the movie where the TH-cam channel Cinemasins gets its iconic phrase, "Prometheus School of Running" because of the spaceship crashing then rolling onto Charlee Theron's character for she would not get out of the way.
oh hell yeah! you're really my favorite movie reactor thank you for reaching to this! it's a very polarizing movie i love it because it's thought provoking and visually stunning i don't understand why some have such a negative opinion on it, i guess it's just not for everyone as some stuff is but i love movies that makes me think about mortality meaning of life etc
A popular theory is that the Engineer only decided to wipe out humanity after Weyland threatened Elizabeth. It was there that he saw how evil humans can be.
I always kind of thought he was disgusted by Weyland's egotism and hubris (bragging about how he created David, wanting to be immortal etc.)
Hi, Jen, watching it again, because I can't help myself ;-) The piano music you liked at 2:30 is Chopin's Prelude op. 28 no 15, "Raindrop". I played this one reasonably well in high school. The name comes from conductor Hans von Bulow, a buddy of Brahms, my personal favorite. Von Bulow gave a name to each of the op. 28 preludes.
And then there's the other "buddy" of von Bulow that features in Covenant...
@@jrneal1220I take it you're referring to Wagner, who stole von Bulow's wife. It's amazing the number of connections von Bulow had to so many 19th century composers.
It's different but I still love it. What kills me is the retcons though. Especially now LV-426 has a giant, breached, activated bioweapons facility and many ships just a few klicks from where the colony parked.
Seeing the giant face hugger in 3d IMAX really gave me the impression of what having one on your face would be like
Don't trust robots unless its Data. I love that!
Oh, good, I'm on time for the premiere. Thought I'd miss it, since I just removed my own gall bladder in an automated surgical pod. April Fool! See ya in the chat, Jen!
They should have kept their helmets ON! Such a double dumbass move taking their helmets off in an alien environment.
Thank you for still another GREAT reaction! This was a perfect topic; I just finished watching SpaceX near where I live. So cool. If you ever come to Los Angeles, let me know!! We can watch movies, rockets, and far more!
16:27 Unbelievable, they discovered interstellar life, ruins of an unknown civilization, advanced technology and a potentially habitable satellite and he's depressed.
I feel like you don’t have a religious background and are probably atheist because i would completely understand his depression. I’d be depressed to find out there was nothing special about my existence, and to find out that there is most likely nothing after death. And these are scientists who have dedicated their lives towards this and are going to be more susceptible to negative reactions because they might not get the answers they’ve spent their whole lives looking for. It seems like he wanted to find proof of divine creation and was met with reality. You’re incapable of putting yourself in the mind space of someone else. How could someone NOT be depressed after finding out that life isn’t what they thought and that theyre out in the middle of the universe and no one really knows or cares? And that if they died on a planet in the middle of nowhere(like they all did) that nothing would come out of it?
Jen, "there's something in the goo" needs to be on any merch you have 😂
When a good friend was slamming this movie, I told him that I liked it, and after a moment of shock, he lowered his head and put his hand up as if he were wounded and need a moment to recover, then took a breath and gasped "I'm sorry. I just lost a little bit of respect for you."
Wow, kind of a tool if he bases his respect for people on agreeing with his entertainment choices.
Good God... I would have told them that I just lost respect for them for even saying that. 🤦♀️
Just a bit?
Wow, I can't believe he said something so terrible, rude and correct.
That's when you hit him with the "Aww, that's a shame."
In the next film, composer Jed Kurzel pays homage to Jerry Goldsmith's original themes for Alien, great stuff.
Hi Jen!
You're looking lovely if I may say!
Do you remember in the first Alien movie where they come across that large Alien sitting in a big machine?
The captain mentions how it looks as if something had burst out of his chest.
That's the same Alien guy, at least I think, that gets into the big machine to fly it.
Also, when you see the large creature come out of that room, the one that was inside her but now much larger; That's what later becomes a face hugger.
It's basically how it began before they evolved over time.
While many criticise these movies, I personally like them although I do have my own issues with them.
I shall not mention them here as I don't wish yo give anything away just in case you do choose to watch the next one, which I recommend.
A wonderful reaction as always.
Have a great day hun, take care! ❤
The only "bad" thing about this movie is that the technology looks so much newer than the sequel from 1968, I'm refering to holograms and all of that are out of place being a prequel instead of buttons everywhere. The trailer for Alien Romulus looks like they fixed that error of continuity.
1979*
Jen! You are one of the best in the business! Love your reactions.
The alien ship that takes off at the end is the same type as the ship they find in Alien and Aliens.
Both this and Alien: Covenant had THE dumbest crews severe assembled lol. But wow does Ridley Scottr make artwork cinematography.
Imagine seeing the C-section scene in IMAX in the front row like I did!
That is the classic movie 'Laurence of Arabia'. I highly suggest you watch it. Brilliant movie with the guy who played Obi-Wan in that first Star Wars movie,.
Also, 3% CO2 is acceptable by humans to breath.
and yeah, those helmets protect from more than just non-breathable atmosphere :)
No, not cigarettes,....eh. ;)
A team of professionals my eye! This movie promised so much and delivered so little. It was also cut and butchered to the death, several critical scenes are missing.
Ah, the film that gave us "The Prometheus School of Running Away From Things" 🤣
Wild this movie is 12 years old now... such better times
I think the reanimated head in this was inspired by Dennis Potter's 'Cold Lazarus (Albert Finney's head).
I always thought the stupidest character in the movie was Shaw at the end. Most of them rest made incredibly stupid and reckless decisions but weren't actively trying to die. Shaw finds out the Engineers were planning to wipe out humanity and decides the best course of action is not to go home and warm people but to rock up to their doorstep and demand 'why' from a civilisation the planned on wiping out humanity. In what universe does this possibly not end in her immediate DEATH?
Here's a fun fact: There are 4 androids and each android's name begins with the corresponding letter of the alphabet
Alien: Ash
Aliens: Bishop
Alien Resurrection: Call
Prometheus: David.
The main reference and connection with the original Alien movie is that the wreckage of the alien spacecraft that crashed at the end is the one they find and explore in the first movie. I really like Prometheus, although it didn't get great reviews when it came out. I like Alien Covenant too, and without giving away any spoilers, I'm desperate for a third movie as I really want to find out what happens with the David storyline in the end. By the way, the movie David was watching and imitating on the voyage was Lawrence of Arabia.
Are you aware that 'ALIEN: Romulus' is due for release very soon? It is set between A L I E N and Aliens. The look & feel of the movie is more towards A L I E N. Check the trailer.
The crashed ship in this movie is NOT the same as in Alien.
They are on completely different planets.
I still think the Engineer seeding Earth with his body is one of the coolest opening sequences to a sci fi movie ever.
The Alien references that you missed.
1: The Engineers. The Engineer suits were made to look like the space jockey the crew of the Nostromo found in the alien ship. This is one of my biggest contentions with this movie. It's clear that the space jockey was a actual skeleton and not some space suit.
2: The alien ship was the same type of ship that they found on LV-426.
3: The pilot console that the engineer sat at as he took off was the same device the space jockey was sitting at in Alien.
4: Shaw's "baby" was a giant pre-cursor to the face hugger.
5: The creature that came out of the Engineer was a early version of the Xenomorph from Alien.
4 and 5 I got
My favorite robot in scifi is Android from the show Dark Matter. Data would be fascinated by her.
Despite one or two good moments and some nice effects, this was such a labored attempt to connect some dots which didn't need connecting. The alien was supposed to be inscrutable and unknown (you know, alien) but they felt the need to explain its origins. Shame because the trailers really sold me on this.
Looks like Romulus will be taking some steps to rectify what the prequels kinda set up, mainly concerning David
Seems like you had a preference and didn't like that your preference irrelevant. Not trying to be rude, but the film wasn't that bad. It had a good story, Shaw and David were by far the best in the film, and telling a sorta prelude what will later become the Alien series is perfectly fine if it fleshes out the world a franchise a little, which it did. I respect that you wanted the xenomorph's origins to remain ambiguous, but unfortunately you cant always get what you want. I think the criticism for this film and Covenant are based a little too strongly on biased and perhaps entitled opinions on how the Alien franchise should be.
Sadly we the audience rarely are able to shape canon, we merely observe it.
@@TeeDiss The criticisms for this have more to do with the lazy storytelling (particularly the all-purpose black goo that does whatever the scene needs it to do) and trying to across all lofty when it really has nothing to say.
@@TeeDissExcept for the fact that none of the story makes any logical sense in any way. How does a black goo (that deconstructs bio mass down to the DNA) go from infecting a human (that makes a worm somehow instead of dissolving him), to than transfer to another human through sexual intercourse (that somehow makes her pregnant in a matter of hours), to then becoming a completely different and unique organism somehow, to then impregnating a completely different species, which then creates another completely different and unique organism, that somehow turns into the organisms in Alien, which are also completely different.
There is nothing in those steps that even remotely makes sense or connects them in anyway. And not to mention the absolute stupidity of nearly every character in the movie that does exactly the worst and stupidest thing possible so that these events can happen.
The look and feel of the movie are good, but the story and writing are absolute garbage.
@@sumotode Well ultimately I'm not trying to convince you. But since you brought some strong thoughts, which are valid btw, I must point out that you're working under the assumption that the black goo only works one way? This is all theoretic since in fact this is just a movie, but It may depend on a number of factors. For example, since the molecules of that goo are spreading through Holloway's body, we know that It passed onto Shaw through their sex. Obviously seeing as it's an alien substance that we can't fully understand those molecules then mixed with the eggs and fertilized instead of breaking down. Why? Because it had that ability. Maybe because it was a woman it entered and because it entered and was embedded in an egg, rather than just the rest the body.
What you're saying is it doesn't make sense, as if we were given an explanation at any point that the goo ONLY deconstructs biomass or that every molecule within the black goo is the same.. your gripe is that a science fiction movie doesn't fully logically explain how its possible to have both outcomes of creative and destructive properties?
Then let's put it to RL logic-- Do atoms not create life and also have the power to destroy it depending on the circumstances?
You're completely in your right to disagree, but I must disagree with the assertion that a sci-fi movie should have to explain every last molecular process/sequences of events for you.. you're correct that it doesn't make sense, because it's using faux science. Hence why it's called Science Fiction. Obviously there will be a little bit of so called "scientific elements" that make it convincing. In truth I can't argue that the science makes sense because in movie world, it's alien science. And in our real world, it's faux science. Either way, there is just enough logic in the real world to make the sequences of events you criticize possible, but you're choosing to not accept them while judging this faux science by RL science.
Lastly, I agree the characters are annoying, but I also believe this too is explainable. But that's more a matter of preference. Sorry to ramble.
If you like the actress the plays Dr. Shaw, Noomi Rapace, I highly suggest the Swedish Millennium trilogy, which begins with the ORIGINAL The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, and its two subsequent sequels The Girl Who Played with Fire, and The Girl Who Kicked the Hornets Nest.
She is so good in those.
Definitely watch the original swedish one's. The American ones are crap
The surgical bed being calibrated for male patients only, is the most hilarious bit I've seen in a horror film.
Should have bought more RAM. Always have to buy more RAM.
I think one thing this movie shows is that even an android (or "artificial person" as Bishop preferred to be called) can become psychotic if left by themself for too long.
Since it is an artificial person - why would they turn psychotic? Why would the movie "show this" - you seem to consider this some sort of "obviously it must be so" proof? A computer is no more or less psychotic if it is on for one day or 10 years - so why must "even an android" be any different?
I love seeing Star Trek Sunday seeping into other reactions lol 😊
my question is that why when im yelling at the screen BREAK RIGHT BREAK LEFT Charlize just kept running str8
The only thing this really had to do for me to like it as a prequel was to end with everything the way the crew of the Nostromo finds it. It really looks like they intended to do that then changed some things at the last second so they could say "Different planet! Haha".
I'm gonna be honest, when I first watched this movie On Demand (a place that you can watch movies for free or rent) I had no clue this was related to the Alien franchise or that Alien Covenant was the sequel. 💜
Prometheus and Covenant are prequals to the first Alien movie.
@@dre3k78 I knew Covenant was a Prequel, I didn't know Prometheis was until after I watched it like 5 years ago.
@dre3k78 I also didn't watch the first original 4 movies until after about 2 years after I saw Covenant in theaters with a friend.
It is incredible how Ridley Scott is the director of this film full of script errors, meaningless things and such absurd decisions and he is the same one who made Alien
I don't know. I think maybe you might be judging it a little too harshly. The film is good overall in my opinion. I would love to see what you count as script "errors" because to me it seemed like the script was written quite well. But we could just have different opinions of what constitutes as errors. I can probably lend credence to the fact that the characters, apart from Shaw and David, werent really that good.
In fact, Shaw and David are the only characters I liked in the film really. As for absurd decisions, i would also like to know what you mean by that. Character decisions or directing decisions? If character, i can sorta see why you would say that. if its directing, please feel free to explain if you'd like.
@@TeeDiss 1. Ok, everyone knows that space suits are not only for breathing but also for protecting you from other things, taking off the helmet is nothing short of a very stupid decision.
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2.- There you have a biologist who, without taking precautions, plays with a creature that clearly has a hostile attitude, and an incompetent geologist who despite drawing the map of the structure, gets lost.
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3.- There Holloway becomes depressed despite having made many important discoveries for humanity and then does not tell anyone that he had that worm in his eye until it is too late, putting the entire crew at risk.
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4.- There is Benjamin Button whose plan is to ask some aliens who he doesn't know if they are friendly or not how to cure his illness that perhaps those engineers don't know about.
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5.- Shaw tries to ask the engineers why they wanted to kill humanity and they don't allow him to speak even though that was a very good question...
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The real hero of the movie was the alien worm that killed the geologist and the biologist.
To be fair, the Soldiers in Aliens (A2) were supposedly highly trained and made some dumb decisions throughout. John Hurt's character in Alien, was wearing his suit and helmet and a facehugger still got him. Smart and dumb ppl have all succumb the Alien threats. I feel like thats the point of the overall story, theres no controlling the outcome, not when it comes to these powerful creatures. but best humanity can do is leave them alone.
-- Weyland's plan for longer life is foolish but that's the point, in his ignorance he wants to asks for immortality from his creators, believing them to be of a divine existence compared to humans. Weyland was purposely arrogant and ignorant so as to meet his inevitable downfall.
-- Holloway didnt know what he had, he saw something in the mirror but he didnt really know what it was. But i can agree that he put ppl in danger. Still, once he realized that he was a threat to everyone he let himself be set on fire.
-- Shaw asked a question, but Weyland cared more about his goal than whatever Shaw was asking. It might be a good question but to Weyland the rest of humanity is irrelevant. He wanted his immortality, Shaw's existential question is irrelevant to him. We the audience know the question matters. But to a man like Weyland, she's just interrupting HIS goals.
I'm not saying you're wrong and I'm sure you have other valid complaints, I'm just saying these are sorta observations that I feel are valid counterpoints to your points. But I respect that we disagree 👌
@@juancarlosgonzales993 lol thats funny
Is that Solomon Lane? Distinct voice.
Guy Pearce under all that old man prosthetic was well concealed. The Count Of Monte Cristo and The Time Machine are two of his work that I enjoyed!
This film doesn’t just make references to “Alien”, it is directly linked to it. The ship they discover is, I believe, the exact same one discovered by the Nostromo crew. After the whole crash landing sequence, the film makers went to great pains to make sure the ship finally rested in the exact same position as the ship in “Alien”. The alien pilot was probably infected prior to going into cryo, which would explain why they found him sitting in the chair with his chest exploded.
Go back and watch both of them back to back and everything will hopefully make sense.
Btw, the film David was watching is “Lawrence of Arabia”.
Lawrence of Arabia was my favorite movie a long time ago, 2001, A Space Odyssey was #2, but there's newer movies to choose from now. The robot guy was watching Lawrence of Arabia, it's a true story.
I saw this in theathers and it was pretty cool on a huge screen. The movie at the begining is lawrence of arabia. A must watch classic that won several oscars with epic landscape shots. Imagine you go to a planet with zero level of tech aliens living on the planet... and theres basically only a few small villages on the entire planet... seems to me it would be quite a job to find them at all, theres a big chance you would think theres zero life on the planet... especially if theres like a few thousands intelligent aliens living in the forest... good luck finding em...
Alien: Covenant is an extremely divisive movie in the series. I would like to see your opinion of it. I like all the movies in the franchise in varying degrees. This one (Prometheus) has such a cool look about it and then style of the viscerality is stark contrast to it. I'll pop it in anytime I want some good sci-fi.
"The Prometheus School Of Running Away From Things."
I remember I was so psyched about seeing this movie.... 😏😒
Jen, some references to Alien. The big tentacle creature (called a Trilobite, I think?), the way it enclosed the Engineer, is a direct reference to the facehugger. And the Deacon at the very end is the direct predecessor to the modern Xenomorph.
"My darling. I've always loved. Oh no. Promootheus."
Sorry. Had to be referenced. L'artiste est Morte will long outlive this.
The film that the android is watching in the beginning is Lawrence of Arabia, which I would love to see you cover one day =)
But the robot in Alien was just following his programming/orders. He did not malfunction.
Don't trust any robots except Data!
Good rule of thumb. :)
I'm happy to watch any/all Alien movies you're willing to watch. They're good, scary fun. =)
Yes Stephen Stills is the "Stills" in Crosby, Stills & Nash........... :)
16:14 Did you notice the logo for Weyland Industries in David's fingerprint?
You run either right or left when a tree falls, not straight below it... lol
You should watch Creator with Peter O-Toole and Vincent Spano. My favorite quote from the movie is "One day Boris, we will look into our microsocopes and find ourselves eye to eye with God. And the first one to blink is going to lose a testicle." 🙂
My space crush: Jen Murray.
Fun facts: 1) The C-Section scene with Naomi Rapace’s (Shaw) stomach protruding up and down was not a visual effect. She was actually doing that herself and creeped the film crew out. 2) The item that came out of the floor of the ship that looked like a gun was a chair like the one the Alien crew found in the original movie with the engineer with the whole in his chest. 3) The ship is the same type seen in the original movie on the planet where they discovered the face hugger. 4) Ridley Scott insisted on limiting the amount of CGI which is why he hired actual 7 footers to play the Engineers instead of going CGI humanoid characters crazy like so many movies today.