That might be because she has three brothers she grew up with .She learned to be tough ,focused deadly from the 3 point line .Also she didn't have girls teams to play on in grade school ,so she played on the boys team ,being more physical than girls ,she learned good skills while developing a toughness girl teams don't quite have !
WAIT! Pete Maravich averaged 44 points per game, Clark 28. He averaged 1,222 points per year, Clark 988 per year. Total college games played Maravich 83, Clark 139. Freshmen could not play. AND no 3-point line.
@@TheIkeClanton Trust me they don't count those facts. Zach Edey beat Rick Mounts total points at Purdue. Same predicament. Rick couldn't play as a freshman and had no 3 point line. Otherwise Rick would still have that record. He still holds the average points per game record at Purdue though. Nobody considers the rule changes.
Plum and Woodard finished their scoring records in 139 games. Clark broke Plum's record in 126 games, and Caitlin will never play 139 games in college ball yet will also break Woodard's scoring record, baring injury. GOAT.
Nice point, just one small, possible correction: Clark does have a chance to play 139 games, if Iowa makes it to the Big 10 tourney final and then gets to another NCAA championship game, as they did last year. Gonna be very tough, but never say never.
WAIT! Pete Maravich averaged 44 points per game, Clark 28. He averaged 1,222 points per year, Clark 988 per year. Total college games played Maravich 83, Clark 139. Freshmen could not play. AND no 3-point line.
@@TheIkeClanton Pete Maravich averaged 38.1 field goal attempts per game as a Tiger; for comparison, Clark - who Iowa relies on for much of its offensive production - has averaged 19.9 shots per game across her four years with the Hawkeyes.Feb 27, 2024
@@TheIkeClanton It's more granular than that. Pete averaged 31.1 shots per game all through college. CC averaged 19.9. Different times. Points are points.
Sabrina is more catch and shoot, she’s a scorer and she gets her teammates involved, Caitlin is on a whole other level, like Steph she can control the ball, create space from one or two defenders, pull up from the three, the logo, wherever. And make a good percentage of them so the coaching staff and her teammates won’t get mad. If she can do this in the WNBA she will be what that league needs, surround her with talent and forget about it, maybe team her up with Sabrina, the Splash Sisters, they would televise their games on TNT.
Well said and to clarify, Clark is just as good if not better than Ionescu was in college at getting teammates involved, probably one big reason that her teammates don't get mad at her high shot attempts and usage rate. Clark averages more assists than Ionescu did, and is on track to pass her career assist total.
As someone who’s never given two cents for girls or women’s basketball, most certainly the wnba,,, I concur. I can’t get enough of seeing and hearing about her. And as an Indy resident. I am super stoked for who the Fever is about to draft. CC is total dope. Fr.
Critics out there saying she can't play at the next level. Ummmm yeah. She's a 6-0 guard with unlimited range, stone cold mentality, great vision and passing, and the quickest release in the game.... I think she's going to torch the pros too... maybe that will finally bring some viewers to the dumpster fire that is the WNBA
Aliyah Boston is drooling rn. Indiana has the first pick in the next draft and if Clark goes pro she will team up with Boston and they will be in the eastern conference finals with a shot at the WNBA finals year 1.
Critics are just jealous of her , I've heard former players make outrageous remarks about her , is it because she isn't black . I feel Caitlin will leave her mark on the pros the likes no one has ever seen !
I cant think of anyone playing college ball(man or woman) who shoots like she does. Her movement off the ball reminds me of Curry(as does her shot making and management of the ball).
Hey thanks I really know much about the basketball and so it was great that you pointed out some of the reasons why she is so good ... was very interesting ,
TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS ANALYSIS. Super high level fundamentals explained. And she does this with the opposition's entire focus. This person's analysis is worthy of Caitlin's greatness.
@@RenardGarzaro She is basically the Steph of women's basketball. Compare her numbers across the board to Step in 2021. Almost identical, but she has more rebounds and assists.
Clark > Ionescu (in terms of college; we'll see about Clark in the pros), though not by a wide margin except for scoring. Here's a detailed comparison of career per-game averages, shooting percentages, the most common advanced metrics used (player efficiency rating, true shooting, win shares, box plus-minus), and major accomplishments. And even if you entirely ignore ppg since Ionescu had way more talented teammates than Iowa has, there's many other areas to compare them: Ionescu: 18.0 pts on 14.0 shots, 7.3 reb, 7.7 ast, 1.5 stl, 0.3 blk, 2.8 to 45.5% FGs, 42.2% 3s, 85.1% FTs 33.5 PER, 57.5% TS, 39.8 WS, 16.8 BPM - #4 all-time in assists - 1 national player of the year, 3x 1st team all-American - 1 Final Four, 2 Elite 8 Clark: 28.3 pts on 19.9 shots, 7.0 reb, 8.1 ast, 1.5 stl, 0.6 blk, 4.5 to 46.8% FGs, 38.3% 3s, 85.7% FTs 39.1 PER, 61.3% TS, 37.2 WS, 16.6 BPM - will be #1 all-time in scoring (men or women) by end of season, #6 all-time in assists (on pace to overtake Ionescu at #4) - 1 national player of the year (& heavily favored for 2nd this yr), 2x 1st team all-American (will be 3 this yr), 1x 2nd team all-American, 1 all-sports academic all-America player of the year - so far: 1 NCAA championship game (loss), 1 Sweet 16
@@kcka7144 Indiana Fever has a really good roster with Aliayh Boston and NaLyssa Smith and her boyfriend works for the Indiana Pacers. Caitlin would do a huge disservice to her self and her fans in the Midwest spending another year in college. She's already broken the records, what else can she do at this level?
Whats crazy about her three point game is when she makes it, they arent ugly. They hit the net hard. Doesnt matter if you try to lock her up at half court or not. I dont think she even needed the three point game to break records. Her inside game is solid.
First time I saw her play I was thinking "wow she takes a lot of shots from way down range!" Turns out that's normal for her. Plus her being a high volume shooter and 40% three point shooter, that's super impressive.
Records are made to be broken. So every so often you’ll get someone who comes along that does just that and show their talent and skills. She worked hard to be able to be a shooter of that caliber and that’s that
I grew up in central Iowa in the 50s Des Moines was known for tough boy's basketball Roosevelt High and her school Downing were often mentioned perhaps thru the years it trickled thru to the girls.
I come from a family that loved sports especially basketball ,and like Caitlin grew up with brothers . I developed a toughness to compete against my brothers , they never let me win ,I had to fight for every shot and rebound . I think it made me a much better player ,than if I always played against just girls .I think that's why Caitlin is so skilled .
I'm Genx so i have watched swoops and Cheryl miller play in their prime. They were great women's player but they still played like girls to me. Caitlin is a generation talent. She plays a dude which is exciting as hell to watch.
@@justinholland6132 I don't think that was "sexist" at all. One of the big differences in CC's game is that she's brought an NBA (Steph, Reggie Miller, etc) shooting form to women's hoops, allowing her to hit those long shots. Before Caitlin, most outside shooting in women's hoops tended to be the little bunny-hop, 1" vertical variety. Plus, she plays an aggressive, athletic game, a rocket arm in her passing, plus the speed, the handles, the rebounds, the court vision, etc. So yeah.. she plays like not just a "dude", but like the best "dudes". I'm pretty sure CC would not object to being likened to the best male players of all time, and to help elevate the women's game into that level of respect.
@@kurtjohnson4816 No I’m 100% correct. People that resort to “isms” and “phobias” because they have a different opinion than you are often sensitive, weak, liberals. You know it’s true. You don’t see conservatives calling you “racist” or homophobic” or “sexist” because you disagree with their opinions. Truthfully I’m tired of being nice to people that accuse you of things that could get you canceled online (not that this is one of those particular instances but the point stands). It’s a weak cop out and I’m tired of it.
Clark scores 1.422 points per attempt. Ionescu scored 1.285. Clark's taking my shots. If the coach had told Ionescu to take 6 more shots per game, her efficiency would have suffered. What people seem not to understand is that it's much easier to score efficiently if you take fewer shots. If I was coaching the opposing team I'd be much less likely to focus my entire defense on one player even if they're scoring 19 points a game because there are other players on that team that are scoring 15 and 14 and 12 that can take up the slack. Clark draws the intense focus of every team's defense in every situation in every game. Every single offensive possession. One important stat that many are missing is that Clark is 56% from 2pt over her career and Ionescu was 48%. Clark's 3pt shooting is only half of her story. Look, I'm not downplaying Ionescu's greatness, she is truly great, but she was simply not the player that Clark is, and the points ARE important. As far as winning National Championships is concerned, Iowa isn't going to win it this year, but Larry Bird didn't have any NCAA championships either. Neither did Maravich. Neither did Wilt. Taking sex into consideration (and that's a big consideration I admit), she is the best college basketball player in modern basketball history. Mens and Womens. There are other players that were great, but they weren't like her.
Very insightful post and tremendously underrated point about shot efficiency naturally going down with volume, especially when one is the main focus of a D. Ionescu at Oregon had much more talented teammates around her than Clark has had, to be able to take the scoring load off of her. And I will add that when comparing Ionescu's 26 triple doubles (1st all-time) to Clark's 15 (2nd all-time), we see that in fact the triple double can be a somewhat overrated, arbitrary metric because when comparing their career averages, Clark's 7.0 rebounds and 8.1 assists are certainly on par with Ionescu's 7.3 and 7.7 assists, respectively. And obviously that's besides the fact that Clark's ppg is 10 above Ionescu's, which is even more impressive when considering that only one other of the top 9 all-time in triple doubles (those with 6+) barely even averaged 20 ppg!
Even now, after non-Iowa fans have been watching her in the W for 3 months, you'll hear people say 'she needs to bulk up' 'she needs to work on her handles' 'she doesn't have a floater' 'she doesn't have a mid game' and we're all like - WTF is wrong with your eyes? Do you not see how she can usually do anything she chooses to do, because opposing players can't stop her?'
Sure there was. His name was pete maravich. No shot clock, no 3 point line and he was not allowed to play as a freshman and he averaged 44.1 points per game. There will never be another player as talented as pete.
Can't argue with that as I'm a huge Pete fan. When comparing points, keep in mind that Pete averaged about 40 shots per game to Clark's 20. Every single game she has to deal with constant 3-4 different fresh bodies who are each team's best defensive players who told to shadow her every move. She's an unbelievable female talent.
@@MikeyD22 so you don’t think Pistol had to deal with the best defender as well. What stupid logic is this? Plus have you seen a Catlin highlight she’s usually wide open without a single hand in her face so saying she is being guarded by the best defender is hilarious with the space she gets..
Pete was amazing. That being said he took 700 more shots than Clark even though he only played 3 years. If there was a 3 point line then he would have averaged 57 points a game
I have to go back to 90s Bulls to find a player this exciting. Then Vince came along and displayed his talent in Toronto. Then came Kobe. Finally Steph Curry. Now, CC. Yes, she's growing. Yes, she'll evolve a lot more. But she's a phenomenal basketball player already, man or woman. Vision, passing, very low time-to-shoot. 1.82m tall, 22 yo. The kind of basketball she plays is the kind of basketball people pay to go see.
I think the NCAA ought to incorporate the pre- NCAA, pre 1982 stats into their regular stats. Caitlin will likely break that record too soon barring injury, but Woodard deserves to be recognized. Though you are also right that Woodard played at a time when it was harder to score as much with no 3 point line or shot clock. But there’s no real way to quantify that. So the record just has to be who scores the most points even though it’s not a perfect comparison. But right now Woodard is the leading scorer in D1 women’s college basketball and her name should be known. Even Clark’s coach agreed with a reporter that the pre-NCAA records should be incorporated at a recent press conference (don’t recall which game it was after. It was before Clark broke the NCAA record. )
I agree with everyone in this thread so far: Woodard absolutely should be recognized as the all-time scoring leader until Clark passes her. However, while quite valid to point out no-shot-clock or 3-pt line back then, it should be noted that if Clark did not have a 3-pt line, then she would certainly be going to the FT line a lot more, with her 85.7% FTs (vs Woodard's 68.1%), and also Clark's 2-pt FG% of 55.5% (vs Woodard's 52.5%) is way higher than her career 46.8% FGs (EDIT: spelling).
@neoisis9373 she's gonna break that anyways, she could reach 4000 as well, they still have 4 more regular season games, the big 10 tourney and march madness
@@kcka7144 she still has a year of eligibility if she wants. She certainly makes more money if she comes back. Also we can’t compare today’s players with those 40 years ago. It’s not the same game.
The 3-pt shot wasn't available for Woodard, and others. I believe Pistol Pete accomplished is NCAA scoring mark in 89 games. Freshmen were not allowed to play on the varsity. PP also did not have the 3-pt shot available to him, so while CC is very talented and a stone-cold shooter and scorer, her records shouldn't be compared to the feats of those who played without the benefit of a 3-pt shot and/or a limit on the number of seasons Woodard & PP had available to them.
WAIT! Pete Maravich averaged 44 points per game, Clark 28. He averaged 1,222 points per year, Clark 988 per year. Total college games played Maravich 83, Clark 139. Freshmen could not play. AND no 3-point line. Pete Maravich could only play 3 college years.
"Records are made to be broken". True; but I would be shocked, gobsmacked, stunned and enraptured if anyone comes along to eclipse CC''s total points while ALSO reaching 1100+ assists and nearly 1000 rebounds. Cuz that's just so insanely far from what anyone has ever accomplished on any level in basketball that it feels nuts to suggest it will happen.
I'm sure Aja is well aware of Caitlin, Brink, Reese, etc in this phenomenal class. I'm also sure that she'll welcome (despite how she'd like to beat their ass) these new players coming into the league. These W players aren't stupid, they know the W will benefit from this new influx of players and their fans, media coverage, etc. Just increases their own visibility and $$.
So people here are saying that Clark isn't better than any man? So, is a man better than any woman? Aren't there " Men" playing women's sports? People who comment have no clue what you are saying! If Clark had the players that Taurasi had at UCONN. It would be a different story! Clark doesn't take 30 shots every game! People think she's a ball hog, well if anybody watched Iowa basketball you would know that Caitlin doesn't have much of a supporting cast. She makes her team better. Meaning that she can shoot, she can rebound, she's the all time leader in assists. Defense could be better, yes. But, look at the NBA All-Star 202 points by one team! Come on now! What a JOKE! Clark shouldn't even give the WNBA lesbian league a first or second look! She should play one more year at Iowa then go play in Europe. Tougher competition! Plus, the WNBA is nothing but Lesbians, that are jealous and bullies! Ask former WNBA players who are Straight that have said, the Lesbians are jealous and don't like straight women playing. But, they would sure bitch if a Trans man wanted to play wouldn't they? I'm not Clark. She is an Adult, she has a great family, a great support system. Whatever she decides I hope she proves all the HATERS wrong!!
Traveling = having FULL control of ball in right hand, then taking 2 full steps before shooting. Why not hop to a new place like a kangaroo? In one of these it’s 3 steps. This is a ‘STEPBACK’? Giannis does the Euro 3 step, so why not. We got 1 1/2 steps in the 80s and before. If the ball was rotating on its own with your fingers touching, OK, because a defender can slap it away. Still, A. She disguises it well. B. She’s a great shooter. I might win sometimes if we played HORSE vs OX.
Since you mentioned Pete's 3 yr record is "going to stand for a while", it should be mentioned that it is because his dad as the coach directed him to a 38.1 shots/game career average, which will probably never happen anywhere else again and is as unique a situation as his 44.2 ppg was. So this means Pete actually took substantially more shots in his 83 games in 3 yrs with 3,166 than Clark has in her 126 games in 4 yrs with 2,503. Still a remarkable record for Pete, but I do wonder how Clark would fare with that amount of shots vs her 19.9.
@@darchon5 to get his numbers he had to shoot that much there wasn’t a three point line at that time. Which makes his numbers even more impressive. You acting like him shooting more is somehow relevant is effin ridiculous. It’s basketball that’s what you do is SHOOT the basketball.. So while we are speculating “I wOnDeR hOw mAnY pOinTs PeTe wOulD haVe if He hAD tHe 3 PoInT lINe”..
@@Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam Chill, I already said he's remarkable either way. All I did was to add that the reason his pts record in 3 yrs will stand maybe forever is because he did take a ridiculous amount of shots in that time. And it is pretty wild that he had way more shots in 3 yrs than Clark has had in 4, that's just the numbers. But yes, it's absolutely fair to bring up that he had no 3-pt line, and should be brought up.
NCAA really needs to put an asterisk next to all pre-1970 records, because athletics were not integrated before that. PM played on a white-boy team, in a white-boy conference. He didn't have to play talent at the level of today's game. PM's college career wins is barely above .500. People rag on Clark for not winning the big one, hell LSU never qualified.
Apparently women's college basketball coaches at the D-1 level have never heard of the Box & 1 defense. I could shut her down with bench players. Why has Caitlyn been left open 3600 times in her career? Caitlyn understands one thing: defense doesn't exist in women's D-1 college basketball.
Is it true that women play with a smaller basketball??? How can women think she broke a man's record with a smaller basketball??? So she didn't play the same sport as Pete!!!!
Tangentially related, Connie Hawkins was going to play for Iowa, was a freshman attending classes (back when freshmen weren't allowed to play varsity) until he somehow got wrapped up in a fixing scandal. He wasn't involved but being a big time player from New York did cross paths with people who were, and his name being in the mouths of criminals was enough to get him in trouble. He lost his scholarship and was blackballed by the NCAA and NBA so ended up playing in the ABA and with the Globetrotters.
@@bookertee3057Yep, he had to sue the NBA to get them to lift his ban. They settled with him, so he got to finish out his career in the league, but unfortunately was nearing the end of his prime since he had developed a bunch of knee issues. Even then he carried that Suns team. What could have been.
The it looks simple body feint to blow pass defenders but not that easy to pull off that only works for soccer geniuses ala Messi, which people claim he wasn't entertaining or that good to watch cause no stupid bicycle moves.
Has anyone been to a wnba game? I got free tickets & went to one and it was actually painful. One pass hit a ref in the back of the head (that was the nights highlight) but the rest of the game was slow, clumsy and missed layups. Not being hyperbolic, I wouldn’t go to another game if I was paid $250.
Caitlin got dudes watching the game. Dude's watching the game is what the wnba needs to succeed. Femenist drop the ball on that a long time ago. No pun intended.
@@johnmcneece4321 Ha no prob. But that makes more sense, cuz it looked like you cut off your own sentence while trying to say that Ionescu was better than Clark heh.
She is great but she can not compete with the likes of Bird, MJ, Dr. J, Pete Maravich, and on. Do you know if Pete M. had been playing today in the college ranks, his point average would have been at least 16 points per game higher than his historic 44 per game during his senior year at LSU.
Title is very misleading and Cap! The truth is you may have never seen a woman player like this because she is not a generational talent when it comes to all around maybe within the woman league but not even close in mens league.
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Skills aside, she is an ice cold competitor. The way she broke the scoring record with her trademark logo 3 was legendary.
That might be because she has three brothers she grew up with .She learned to be tough ,focused deadly from the 3 point line .Also she didn't have girls teams to play on in grade school ,so she played on the boys team ,being more physical than girls ,she learned good skills while developing a toughness girl teams don't quite have !
She handles the ball almost like a man. She's slick.
@@judynichols2904 Lol. She can shoot from NBA 3 point range. Curry said her release time was identical to his.
WAIT! Pete Maravich averaged 44 points per game, Clark 28.
He averaged 1,222 points per year, Clark 988 per year.
Total college games played Maravich 83, Clark 139.
Freshmen could not play. AND no 3-point line.
@@TheIkeClanton Trust me they don't count those facts. Zach Edey beat Rick Mounts total points at Purdue. Same predicament. Rick couldn't play as a freshman and had no 3 point line. Otherwise Rick would still have that record. He still holds the average points per game record at Purdue though. Nobody considers the rule changes.
Great analysis. I haven't seen this in-depth look at her different moves before. Great video.
Plum and Woodard finished their scoring records in 139 games. Clark broke Plum's record in 126 games, and Caitlin will never play 139 games in college ball yet will also break Woodard's scoring record, baring injury. GOAT.
Nice point, just one small, possible correction: Clark does have a chance to play 139 games, if Iowa makes it to the Big 10 tourney final and then gets to another NCAA championship game, as they did last year. Gonna be very tough, but never say never.
She will likely get 139. 4 left in reg season. Possibly 8 in tourneys
WAIT! Pete Maravich averaged 44 points per game, Clark 28.
He averaged 1,222 points per year, Clark 988 per year.
Total college games played Maravich 83, Clark 139.
Freshmen could not play. AND no 3-point line.
@@TheIkeClanton Pete Maravich averaged 38.1 field goal attempts per game as a Tiger; for comparison, Clark - who Iowa relies on for much of its offensive production - has averaged 19.9 shots per game across her four years with the Hawkeyes.Feb 27, 2024
@@TheIkeClanton It's more granular than that. Pete averaged 31.1 shots per game all through college. CC averaged 19.9. Different times. Points are points.
I love her game for all the reasons you stated. She is so much fun to watch. Poetry in motion!
Sabrina is more catch and shoot, she’s a scorer and she gets her teammates involved, Caitlin is on a whole other level, like Steph she can control the ball, create space from one or two defenders, pull up from the three, the logo, wherever. And make a good percentage of them so the coaching staff and her teammates won’t get mad. If she can do this in the WNBA she will be what that league needs, surround her with talent and forget about it, maybe team her up with Sabrina, the Splash Sisters, they would televise their games on TNT.
Well said and to clarify, Clark is just as good if not better than Ionescu was in college at getting teammates involved, probably one big reason that her teammates don't get mad at her high shot attempts and usage rate. Clark averages more assists than Ionescu did, and is on track to pass her career assist total.
She is not Steph
@@zikemdg That is what you here from people after Steph smashes your dreams, bron fans, I understand.
She's the most exciting player in college sports right now. What a great time for women's hoops.
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@@blacklightlifestyle9763 Spookaloo is jealous.
As someone who’s never given two cents for girls or women’s basketball, most certainly the wnba,,, I concur. I can’t get enough of seeing and hearing about her. And as an Indy resident. I am super stoked for who the Fever is about to draft. CC is total dope. Fr.
For real. Had zero interest in women's bball. Watched it a few times. Yawnfest. However Her talent and drive make her a spectacle to behold.
Yall must not know Livy Dunn, lsu gymnastic, watching her butt when she does flips bro, she’s the talk of sports
Critics out there saying she can't play at the next level. Ummmm yeah. She's a 6-0 guard with unlimited range, stone cold mentality, great vision and passing, and the quickest release in the game.... I think she's going to torch the pros too... maybe that will finally bring some viewers to the dumpster fire that is the WNBA
Lmaoooo who is saying that
@@DonnyFlyssheryl swoopes
If the WNBA defense is the same as D-1 women's sports, she'll rewrite those record books too.
Aliyah Boston is drooling rn. Indiana has the first pick in the next draft and if Clark goes pro she will team up with Boston and they will be in the eastern conference finals with a shot at the WNBA finals year 1.
Critics are just jealous of her , I've heard former players make outrageous remarks about her , is it because she isn't black . I feel Caitlin will leave her mark on the pros the likes no one has ever seen !
She's such a joy to watch. Imagine how much fun it is to play with her!?
I cant think of anyone playing college ball(man or woman) who shoots like she does. Her movement off the ball reminds me of Curry(as does her shot making and management of the ball).
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Grest video bud. Very well done.
Bro. I love your breakdown.🎉
Great analysis. Liked that you looked at her passing - as spectacular, as the logo threes.
Excellent video!
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That was such a good breakdown of her game
Great analysis. Thank you.
Hey thanks I really know much about the basketball and so it was great that you pointed out some of the reasons why she is so good ... was very interesting ,
TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS ANALYSIS. Super high level fundamentals explained. And she does this with the opposition's entire focus. This person's analysis is worthy of Caitlin's greatness.
She's Steph Curry as a woman and can drive pretty damn well too and is a great passer.
She is not Steph, stop it.
@@RenardGarzaro She is basically the Steph of women's basketball. Compare her numbers across the board to Step in 2021. Almost identical, but she has more rebounds and assists.
Who’s better her or Sabrina? Also props to u for giving women’s ball attention.
It's hard to say because Sabrina played at Oregon and they would never let a player take so many shots.
@@sp123 They didn't have a player that COULD take so many shots.
Clark > Ionescu (in terms of college; we'll see about Clark in the pros), though not by a wide margin except for scoring. Here's a detailed comparison of career per-game averages, shooting percentages, the most common advanced metrics used (player efficiency rating, true shooting, win shares, box plus-minus), and major accomplishments. And even if you entirely ignore ppg since Ionescu had way more talented teammates than Iowa has, there's many other areas to compare them:
Ionescu:
18.0 pts on 14.0 shots, 7.3 reb, 7.7 ast, 1.5 stl, 0.3 blk, 2.8 to
45.5% FGs, 42.2% 3s, 85.1% FTs
33.5 PER, 57.5% TS, 39.8 WS, 16.8 BPM
- #4 all-time in assists
- 1 national player of the year, 3x 1st team all-American
- 1 Final Four, 2 Elite 8
Clark:
28.3 pts on 19.9 shots, 7.0 reb, 8.1 ast, 1.5 stl, 0.6 blk, 4.5 to
46.8% FGs, 38.3% 3s, 85.7% FTs
39.1 PER, 61.3% TS, 37.2 WS, 16.6 BPM
- will be #1 all-time in scoring (men or women) by end of season, #6 all-time in assists (on pace to overtake Ionescu at #4)
- 1 national player of the year (& heavily favored for 2nd this yr), 2x 1st team all-American (will be 3 this yr), 1x 2nd team all-American, 1 all-sports academic all-America player of the year
- so far: 1 NCAA championship game (loss), 1 Sweet 16
@darchon5 ur right, can't wait to see her in the wnba even though I think she should take her extra year. It will be a hard decision for her.
@@kcka7144 Indiana Fever has a really good roster with Aliayh Boston and NaLyssa Smith and her boyfriend works for the Indiana Pacers. Caitlin would do a huge disservice to her self and her fans in the Midwest spending another year in college. She's already broken the records, what else can she do at this level?
Whats crazy about her three point game is when she makes it, they arent ugly. They hit the net hard. Doesnt matter if you try to lock her up at half court or not. I dont think she even needed the three point game to break records. Her inside game is solid.
Good analysis.👍
First time I saw her play I was thinking "wow she takes a lot of shots from way down range!" Turns out that's normal for her. Plus her being a high volume shooter and 40% three point shooter, that's super impressive.
And her 85.+% free throws.
Records are made to be broken. So every so often you’ll get someone who comes along that does just that and show their talent and skills. She worked hard to be able to be a shooter of that caliber and that’s that
Reminds me of Lin a bit. Pick and roll plus the 3. Very exciting to watch.
I grew up in central Iowa in the 50s Des Moines was known for tough boy's basketball Roosevelt High and her school Downing were often mentioned perhaps thru the years it trickled thru to the girls.
I come from a family that loved sports especially basketball ,and like Caitlin grew up with brothers . I developed a toughness to compete against my brothers , they never let me win ,I had to fight for every shot and rebound . I think it made me a much better player ,than if I always played against just girls .I think that's why Caitlin is so skilled .
I feel like I benefitted the same way; always having to play against guys who were 2-5 years older than me. It's get tough or get out.
Caitlin is phenomenal The trash towred her very disrespectful. She is the best of best.
How can anyone talk that trash to the best.❤
I'm Genx so i have watched swoops and Cheryl miller play in their prime. They were great women's player but they still played like girls to me. Caitlin is a generation talent. She plays a dude which is exciting as hell to watch.
Such a sexist thing to say. U really couldn’t have thought of a better way to say that?
@@justinholland6132 How’s that Biden vote turning out?
@@justinholland6132 I don't think that was "sexist" at all. One of the big differences in CC's game is that she's brought an NBA (Steph, Reggie Miller, etc) shooting form to women's hoops, allowing her to hit those long shots. Before Caitlin, most outside shooting in women's hoops tended to be the little bunny-hop, 1" vertical variety. Plus, she plays an aggressive, athletic game, a rocket arm in her passing, plus the speed, the handles, the rebounds, the court vision, etc. So yeah.. she plays like not just a "dude", but like the best "dudes". I'm pretty sure CC would not object to being likened to the best male players of all time, and to help elevate the women's game into that level of respect.
@@ayoisthataspiderbiteonyopp9381 What a completely idiotic thing to post, on a variety of perspectives.
@@kurtjohnson4816 No I’m 100% correct. People that resort to “isms” and “phobias” because they have a different opinion than you are often sensitive, weak, liberals. You know it’s true. You don’t see conservatives calling you “racist” or homophobic” or “sexist” because you disagree with their opinions. Truthfully I’m tired of being nice to people that accuse you of things that could get you canceled online (not that this is one of those particular instances but the point stands). It’s a weak cop out and I’m tired of it.
I would like to see clark enter the NBA draft
Clark scores 1.422 points per attempt. Ionescu scored 1.285. Clark's taking my shots.
If the coach had told Ionescu to take 6 more shots per game, her efficiency would have suffered. What people seem not to understand is that it's much easier to score efficiently if you take fewer shots.
If I was coaching the opposing team I'd be much less likely to focus my entire defense on one player even if they're scoring 19 points a game because there are other players on that team that are scoring 15 and 14 and 12 that can take up the slack.
Clark draws the intense focus of every team's defense in every situation in every game. Every single offensive possession.
One important stat that many are missing is that Clark is 56% from 2pt over her career and Ionescu was 48%. Clark's 3pt shooting is only half of her story.
Look, I'm not downplaying Ionescu's greatness, she is truly great, but she was simply not the player that Clark is, and the points ARE important.
As far as winning National Championships is concerned, Iowa isn't going to win it this year, but Larry Bird didn't have any NCAA championships either. Neither did Maravich. Neither did Wilt.
Taking sex into consideration (and that's a big consideration I admit), she is the best college basketball player in modern basketball history. Mens and Womens. There are other players that were great, but they weren't like her.
Very insightful post and tremendously underrated point about shot efficiency naturally going down with volume, especially when one is the main focus of a D. Ionescu at Oregon had much more talented teammates around her than Clark has had, to be able to take the scoring load off of her.
And I will add that when comparing Ionescu's 26 triple doubles (1st all-time) to Clark's 15 (2nd all-time), we see that in fact the triple double can be a somewhat overrated, arbitrary metric because when comparing their career averages, Clark's 7.0 rebounds and 8.1 assists are certainly on par with Ionescu's 7.3 and 7.7 assists, respectively. And obviously that's besides the fact that Clark's ppg is 10 above Ionescu's, which is even more impressive when considering that only one other of the top 9 all-time in triple doubles (those with 6+) barely even averaged 20 ppg!
She's a Cold-Blooded-Shooter combined with Fearlessness. The competing teams have a serious problem on their hands.
She is amazing
I’ve never seen anything like her. Range, handle and passing. No other woman has ever been so prolific in those 3 combined skills.
If there is ever another "Space Jam" movie, Caitlin Clark should totally be in it
1:17 mark, she takes three steps. The rules don't matter anymore.
Shooting 40% from 3 off the dribble and from deep deep range is wild. She looks like the female version of curry to me
She's a Larry Bird...
no she is not stop comparing women to men.. larry bird is also 6f10..
Larry Bird was 6'8"
@@RenardGarzaro wrong he was almost 6f10
Even now, after non-Iowa fans have been watching her in the W for 3 months, you'll hear people say 'she needs to bulk up' 'she needs to work on her handles' 'she doesn't have a floater' 'she doesn't have a mid game' and we're all like - WTF is wrong with your eyes? Do you not see how she can usually do anything she chooses to do, because opposing players can't stop her?'
I'm amazed at those 3 point shots unbelievable she doesn't need the line
Great video
Great video. We'll done!
This whole video i was wondering why she needed teammates, cuz all she does is shoot. But holy crap 8.5 assists a game? This girl is unreal
Yes, we have. They play Men's basketball.
Her passing skills is what impress me most.
Greatest College Player Ever
Sure there was. His name was pete maravich. No shot clock, no 3 point line and he was not allowed to play as a freshman and he averaged 44.1 points per game. There will never be another player as talented as pete.
He did take 40 shots tho while Caitlin takes 20
Can't argue with that as I'm a huge Pete fan. When comparing points, keep in mind that Pete averaged about 40 shots per game to Clark's 20. Every single game she has to deal with constant 3-4 different fresh bodies who are each team's best defensive players who told to shadow her every move. She's an unbelievable female talent.
“PISTOL”
I love Pistol Pete. The guy was amazing. So is Caitlin.
@@MikeyD22 so you don’t think Pistol had to deal with the best defender as well. What stupid logic is this? Plus have you seen a Catlin highlight she’s usually wide open without a single hand in her face so saying she is being guarded by the best defender is hilarious with the space she gets..
Uhhh, the title is incorrect; we've seen someone who plays like Caitlin Clark. He plays out here in the bay area and wears number 30
spare me
Clark plays a lot like Larry Bird did. Amazing!!
Pete was amazing. That being said he took 700 more shots than Clark even though he only played 3 years. If there was a 3 point line then he would have averaged 57 points a game
I have to go back to 90s Bulls to find a player this exciting.
Then Vince came along and displayed his talent in Toronto.
Then came Kobe.
Finally Steph Curry.
Now, CC.
Yes, she's growing. Yes, she'll evolve a lot more.
But she's a phenomenal basketball player already, man or woman. Vision, passing, very low time-to-shoot.
1.82m tall, 22 yo.
The kind of basketball she plays is the kind of basketball people pay to go see.
Caitlin Clark will save the WNBA
She won't nice try tho
@@jamesmanuel9909She’s the first female professional baller I’ve wanted to watch. She’s special.
@@MH-lk8mdshe’s electric. The logo 3 to win the scoring record got me hyped up
How?
@kgar5String she will bring more men to the game and she will increase advertising revenue...she will also be the highest paid WNBA player ever
Lynette Woodard had 3650 at Kansas with no shot clock or three point line. Her numbers don’t count because until 1982 women weren’t in the ncaa books.
I think the NCAA ought to incorporate the pre- NCAA, pre 1982 stats into their regular stats. Caitlin will likely break that record too soon barring injury, but Woodard deserves to be recognized. Though you are also right that Woodard played at a time when it was harder to score as much with no 3 point line or shot clock. But there’s no real way to quantify that. So the record just has to be who scores the most points even though it’s not a perfect comparison. But right now Woodard is the leading scorer in D1 women’s college basketball and her name should be known. Even Clark’s coach agreed with a reporter that the pre-NCAA records should be incorporated at a recent press conference (don’t recall which game it was after. It was before Clark broke the NCAA record. )
I agree with everyone in this thread so far: Woodard absolutely should be recognized as the all-time scoring leader until Clark passes her. However, while quite valid to point out no-shot-clock or 3-pt line back then, it should be noted that if Clark did not have a 3-pt line, then she would certainly be going to the FT line a lot more, with her 85.7% FTs (vs Woodard's 68.1%), and also Clark's 2-pt FG% of 55.5% (vs Woodard's 52.5%) is way higher than her career 46.8% FGs (EDIT: spelling).
@neoisis9373 she's gonna break that anyways, she could reach 4000 as well, they still have 4 more regular season games, the big 10 tourney and march madness
@@kcka7144 she still has a year of eligibility if she wants. She certainly makes more money if she comes back. Also we can’t compare today’s players with those 40 years ago. It’s not the same game.
@jamescampbell9533 true. Ur very right and can I just say as a 13 Yr old I'm glad to be witnessing CC in front of my own eyes.
Notice how this guy describes her moves but never mentioned how she pushed off to get separation
She does nothing new that other players do
Here after she lost to kelsey plum
The 3-pt shot wasn't available for Woodard, and others. I believe Pistol Pete accomplished is NCAA scoring mark in 89 games. Freshmen were not allowed to play on the varsity. PP also did not have the 3-pt shot available to him, so while CC is very talented and a stone-cold shooter and scorer, her records shouldn't be compared to the feats of those who played without the benefit of a 3-pt shot and/or a limit on the number of seasons Woodard & PP had available to them.
You forgot about here defensive skills. Tisk, tisk.
WAIT! Pete Maravich averaged 44 points per game, Clark 28.
He averaged 1,222 points per year, Clark 988 per year.
Total college games played Maravich 83, Clark 139.
Freshmen could not play. AND no 3-point line.
Pete Maravich could only play 3 college years.
She also took way less shots then he did, but a record is a record
"Records are made to be broken". True; but I would be shocked, gobsmacked, stunned and enraptured if anyone comes along to eclipse CC''s total points while ALSO reaching 1100+ assists and nearly 1000 rebounds. Cuz that's just so insanely far from what anyone has ever accomplished on any level in basketball that it feels nuts to suggest it will happen.
Most complete woman player ever! Just knows every aspect of the game. She'd be brilliant as a coach or announcer.
Goat
She's the Larry Bird of female basketball Caitlin is definitely nba prepared.
In women's basketball!
CAITLIN CLARK, the GREATEST FEMALE NCAA WOMEN’S BASKETBALL “SHOOTER” of ALL-TIME.
And passer
It's funny Kelsey Plum held the scoring record when she entered the WNBA and no one even cared or talked about her.
Ability aside she has a fantastic attitude.
You mean she hits the basket when she shoots? Good for her.
you couldn't make a layup
Aja Wilson says hello.
I'm sure Aja is well aware of Caitlin, Brink, Reese, etc in this phenomenal class. I'm also sure that she'll welcome (despite how she'd like to beat their ass) these new players coming into the league. These W players aren't stupid, they know the W will benefit from this new influx of players and their fans, media coverage, etc. Just increases their own visibility and $$.
It's because Clark can actually ball and her competition is weak. It's like a pro playing against high schoolers.
She's the best female player by far, best ever? Did you ever see Pistol Pete Maravich play? He averaged 44 points a game.
So people here are saying that Clark isn't better than any man? So, is a man better than any woman? Aren't there " Men" playing women's sports? People who comment have no clue what you are saying! If Clark had the players that Taurasi had at UCONN. It would be a different story! Clark doesn't take 30 shots every game! People think she's a ball hog, well if anybody watched Iowa basketball you would know that Caitlin doesn't have much of a supporting cast. She makes her team better. Meaning that she can shoot, she can rebound, she's the all time leader in assists. Defense could be better, yes. But, look at the NBA All-Star 202 points by one team! Come on now! What a JOKE! Clark shouldn't even give the WNBA lesbian league a first or second look! She should play one more year at Iowa then go play in Europe. Tougher competition! Plus, the WNBA is nothing but Lesbians, that are jealous and bullies! Ask former WNBA players who are Straight that have said, the Lesbians are jealous and don't like straight women playing. But, they would sure bitch if a Trans man wanted to play wouldn't they? I'm not Clark. She is an Adult, she has a great family, a great support system. Whatever she decides I hope she proves all the HATERS wrong!!
28.5
Is she better than Cheryl miller ?
I wish her amazing skills and wonderful story would bring to light the great ones before her like Pearl Moore.
Larry Bird step back. I swear. She’s special.
Let’s GO FEVER!
Traveling = having FULL control of ball in right hand, then taking 2 full steps before shooting. Why not hop to a new place like a kangaroo? In one of these it’s 3 steps. This is a ‘STEPBACK’? Giannis does the Euro 3 step, so why not. We got 1 1/2 steps in the 80s and before. If the ball was rotating on its own with your fingers touching, OK, because a defender can slap it away. Still, A. She disguises it well. B. She’s a great shooter. I might win sometimes if we played HORSE vs OX.
Of course we have. Look at the Joker.
Well if CC can't play at the next level, than who can?
She’s going to average 35 ppg in the WNBA.
Labronn needs to study her technique so he won't travel constantly in game.
I'm from Iowa and love Caitlin but Pete did it in three years. That record is going to stand for a while. Definitely the goat so far.
Since you mentioned Pete's 3 yr record is "going to stand for a while", it should be mentioned that it is because his dad as the coach directed him to a 38.1 shots/game career average, which will probably never happen anywhere else again and is as unique a situation as his 44.2 ppg was. So this means Pete actually took substantially more shots in his 83 games in 3 yrs with 3,166 than Clark has in her 126 games in 4 yrs with 2,503. Still a remarkable record for Pete, but I do wonder how Clark would fare with that amount of shots vs her 19.9.
@@darchon5 to get his numbers he had to shoot that much there wasn’t a three point line at that time. Which makes his numbers even more impressive. You acting like him shooting more is somehow relevant is effin ridiculous. It’s basketball that’s what you do is SHOOT the basketball.. So while we are speculating “I wOnDeR hOw mAnY pOinTs PeTe wOulD haVe if He hAD tHe 3 PoInT lINe”..
@@Bam_Bam_Bam_Bam Chill, I already said he's remarkable either way. All I did was to add that the reason his pts record in 3 yrs will stand maybe forever is because he did take a ridiculous amount of shots in that time. And it is pretty wild that he had way more shots in 3 yrs than Clark has had in 4, that's just the numbers. But yes, it's absolutely fair to bring up that he had no 3-pt line, and should be brought up.
NCAA really needs to put an asterisk next to all pre-1970 records, because athletics were not integrated before that. PM played on a white-boy team, in a white-boy conference. He didn't have to play talent at the level of today's game. PM's college career wins is barely above .500. People rag on Clark for not winning the big one, hell LSU never qualified.
Caitlin will break his record with fewer shots, and sacrificing more of her scoring for assists and rebounds.
Caitlin = Jimmer.
Apparently women's college basketball coaches at the D-1 level have never heard of the Box & 1 defense. I could shut her down with bench players. Why has Caitlyn been left open 3600 times in her career? Caitlyn understands one thing: defense doesn't exist in women's D-1 college basketball.
Because of how far out she shoots from. There are other players to watch, she'd pass to them.
She makes all teams look like that. She's a second or two ahead of others.
We have ,Pistol Pete, Larry Bird, and others in College Basketball. Never a Female though.
I know one better. That being Jazz Shelley from Australia
We have never seen a player like her? What you mean to say is there hasn't been a FEMALE player like her.
Can you name me a player who can score from deep and anywhere else on the court but also have insane court vision
Is it true that women play with a smaller basketball???
How can women think she broke a man's record with a smaller basketball???
So she didn't play the same sport as Pete!!!!
Undoubtedly, you never seen Connie Hawkins or Pistol Pete play.
Tangentially related, Connie Hawkins was going to play for Iowa, was a freshman attending classes (back when freshmen weren't allowed to play varsity) until he somehow got wrapped up in a fixing scandal. He wasn't involved but being a big time player from New York did cross paths with people who were, and his name being in the mouths of criminals was enough to get him in trouble. He lost his scholarship and was blackballed by the NCAA and NBA so ended up playing in the ABA and with the Globetrotters.
@skweetis Ended his career with the Atlanta Hawks with bad knees. He also played with the Suns and the Lakers.
@@bookertee3057Yep, he had to sue the NBA to get them to lift his ban. They settled with him, so he got to finish out his career in the league, but unfortunately was nearing the end of his prime since he had developed a bunch of knee issues. Even then he carried that Suns team. What could have been.
@skweetis I was lucky to see Connie Hawkins play several times in his prime. MJ, Iceman, Dr J had nothing over Connie Hawkins.
She's White?... Nooooooo! Blacks reacting.😅😂
i see people saying angle reese is better they just cant imagine a white girl being the best
The best player in the WNBA is white (Breanna Stewart)
She's the Eminem of female basketball 🤣🤣🤣
@@xxuy393both are very good but angel has quite the edge on defense. It’s not crazy to say angel is better.
@@xxuy393 cause when yall at the top of any sport we get these comments like OP's that appear all over the internet
Shes the next michael jordan !!! Reallllly 👀
Brenna Stewart led UConn to FOUR NATINAL TITLES how many titles has Iowa won ZERO 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
The it looks simple body feint to blow pass defenders but not that easy to pull off that only works for soccer geniuses ala Messi, which people claim he wasn't entertaining or that good to watch cause no stupid bicycle moves.
Damn
Nba potential?
Has anyone been to a wnba game? I got free tickets & went to one and it was actually painful. One pass hit a ref in the back of the head (that was the nights highlight) but the rest of the game was slow, clumsy and missed layups. Not being hyperbolic, I wouldn’t go to another game if I was paid $250.
Caitlin got dudes watching the game. Dude's watching the game is what the wnba needs to succeed. Femenist drop the ball on that a long time ago. No pun intended.
I saw a player exactly like Caitlin. He's 13 years old and hasn't grown body hair yet.
The best WOMAN player. Big difference.
Sabrina women's basketball
Clark is the improved version of Ionescu, based on college careers. We'll see what Clark can do in the pros.
I was trying to look up who that was sorry did it here instead of Google
@@johnmcneece4321 Ha no prob. But that makes more sense, cuz it looked like you cut off your own sentence while trying to say that Ionescu was better than Clark heh.
No I think Caitlin will show them all up
She is great but she can not compete with the likes of Bird, MJ, Dr. J, Pete Maravich, and on. Do you know if Pete M. had been playing today in the college ranks, his point average would have been at least 16 points per game higher than his historic 44 per game during his senior year at LSU.
I'd like to see someone redo that Dale Brown analysis because he based it on the 19' 9" 3-pt line at the time, not today's 22' 1.75" line.
She Can't compete with high school boys, what are you talking about?
@@RenardGarzaro jealous Spookaloo?
Pete shot 40 times a game, Clark 20, and she's a woman, quit comparing her to men.
Title is very misleading and Cap! The truth is you may have never seen a woman player like this because she is not a generational talent when it comes to all around maybe within the woman league but not even close in mens league.
Guys like you are the reason for the term "fragile male ego".