Why Europe And America Are Falling Out (It's Not Just Trump) | Americans React | Loners
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Hello again, Loners! Thank you all for coming back and watching another video of ours. In this video, we took a look at why Europe and America are having a falling out. We have to say, we don't blame Europe for wanting to back away from the states. It was an interesting view and if you enjoy our content, please make sure to like and subscribe! Thank you all :) - บันเทิง
I think a lot of Europeans understand USA politics better than the people in the USA itself... Trump entertaining? It's scary
Hopeful*
yeah, and some states better than others, especially the colonies like italy -.-"
"Haha our president is so funny and cool"
"Why is everything going so bad?"
Dude, get some help. And stop watching MSNBS
Europeans can barely do anything with their own governments. Why would they know more about ours? It's also funny that Europeans don't understand how much we pay to keep your economies afloat. The US shells out 80% of all NATO on a given year and then the rest of the countries make up the other 20%.
the US has actively blocked the creation of a EU military because it didn't want the EU to become more independant. the EU gave in to the US's complaining and what does the US do, Complain anyway...
Meanwhile Americans yell that Europe needs their own army and stop being dependent on theirs 😂 So uninformed.
@@LalaDepala_00 I'd say the American stance on this has changed over time
@@LalaDepala_00not true. Because of Nato.
@@LalaDepala_00Not so much they yell, they want European countries to spend more on the military, but they don't want it being done at an EU level that integrates their militaries together, as that would make the EU a lot more powerful on military and forign policy matters, it would weaken the US voice in Europe and around the world, it would also give countries around the world options, many of which don't like the US.
The biggest weakness in the EU isn't the economy or the military, it's that we have 27 voices, pulling in all directions, Trump ironically, could be the solution to solve that problem but it would actually backfire on the US in many ways.
@@LalaDepala_00 Honest soul, Americans want us to spend more money on defense, but by buying their weapons
I can understand that you guys over in the US would not be as worried about Russia right now, but for me and others living in countries close to Russia it is not as fun and frankly rather scary. It is not only the Ukraine that Russia has threatened during the last years. There is a reason why Sweden (were I live) is joining NATO now after staying out of military alliances for over 200 years.
Russia is not the problem.
The US weapon industry $$$.
@@eduardveres3501 exactly, you'll notice that the people who push the “Russian threat” narrative the most are also people who would gain millions overnight if a war with Russia actually started.
Chill
@@eduardveres3501 yea sure tell that to Poland, Ukraine, Baltic states which everyday hear from russian politicians that they will use nuke on our countries because this lands are russian
You are insane if you think Russia would invade a Nato country, not even the global superpower as the USSR attempted that,
its just a horror story made by the governments to distract you from the countries problems.
1:37 easy to say if your neighbour is not fighting for their survival. easy to say if your friends are not literally being blown up
Russia is not a threat? What the heck are you smoking?!?
Russia is a mild threat at best, after all, they only have an economy in-between Spain and Italy and it's military capabilities is being seen as a joke around the world, meanwhile, the EU and US are throwing crumbs at Ukraine's and it's keeping Russia bogged down, whiles forcing Russia to spend a lot more on it's military.
Actions always speak louder than words, and it's clear to see that the EU and US doesn't see Russia as much of a threat, just more of a pain in the arse that likes to nibble around the edges lol.
@@paul1979uk2000 You don't think there's a possibility that Russia wins this war against Ukraine?
They aren't. Compared to the US who funds and sends over old military equipment, Russia is a joke.
Russia is not a threat if you live in US. (It's worse if your country have a border with them.)
@@reineh3477 I agree it's not a direct threat - yet. But it is already an indirect one for too many reasons to list here. And it may become a direct threat sooner than you think. It all depends on how things will go in Ukraine. If Russia wins there in any way, we'll have a large war involving NATO (and perhaps China, North-Korea, Iran) in a few years. You may think the U.S. can isolate itself from all this. I very much doubt that.
It seems rather odd to say that the thing you have taken from the events of recent years is to think that that worries (or "scaremongering" as you put it) about Russian militarism, aggression and willingness (even desire) to gamble and to destabilise the international order is somehow all nonsense!
If the invasion of Georgia didn't bother you, or the annexation of Crimea, or paramilitarism in the Donbass, and (of course) the continuing threats and interference in the politics of neighbouring countries, assassinations on the streets of foreign countries (including here in the UK), if all that passed you by as scaremongering, you might think that just the full-on military invasion to attempt to just take over their largest neighbouring country with the exception of China (all while looking the entire world in the right in the eye and saying "no, of course we're not going to do that"), continual threats of nuclear weapons use, frank and unapologetic territorial claims and threats against other countries that Russia sees as "belonging" to it and seemingly deliberate provocation of NATO boundaries, maybe all that might make you go: "Oh, maybe Russian military aggression is an actual problem. Maybe they really are dangerous and a threat to international security."
If not, what the bloody hell *would* it take to come to that conclusion?
I think the problem is that Americans are always at war with someone. Their military is everywhere so unless a b0mb is dropped on them directly they would not care because if it's not them it is at it always has been for them. Nothing changes FOR THEM. If it is Iran, Afghanistan, Laos, Nigeria, Palestine, Israel, Russia, Ukraine... it doesn't matter to them. And I hate to say it but we (Europeans) were the same for the most part until it came to our doorstep. And even now the further we are from it the less we care.
Russia isn't scary. They might have spies within european governments but that's about it.
Ukraine with the small backing of the US is proof that Russia isn't to be taken seriously. The US sent over 60yr old military technology to Ukraine and they've been using it to not only stop Russia's advancement but also push back some.
You just know that the self-proclaimed greatest country in the world isn't so great, when the best you have to offer for 12 years is Trump or Biden. But that's what you, and the world, gets if a powerful country still has a unchanged political system from 350+ years ago.
Do you really believe that US Presidents decide their country's policies? Know that in reality the American president has less power than the French one. So who is president doesn't really matter.
He loners, thanks for you comments. 👍👍 And if you don't want trump for president, you should vote for an other candidate. If somebody in my country complains about the government, I always ask first if he voted in the latest election. A country is a democracy when everyone votes during elections.
The thing is that they don't have much choice. Either the clown with the red tie or the senile clumsy grandpa.
The author of the original video doesn't understand a lot of things.
In 2022, EU countries imported $680 billion worth of goods from China and the US $563 billion in absolute numbers, but per capita it was $1520 for the EU and $1670 for the US. It's important to note that the EU number includes US brands manufactured in China (due to labor costs) such as Tesla, Apple, Xbox, Nike (and many other clothing brands) which are manufactured in Mexico or domestically for the U.S. market. Also former US brands that were sold to China such as Motorola, Thinkpad, Segway, etc....
The author of the original video doesn't understand a thing.
Oh dear do your due diligence. Look at some recent history and how Russia behaves.
You know, we are to have European elections soon, and at least for France, right extremists are polled favorite. Right extremism is rising in European gouvernments. What I mean, is that the fear of having Trump back, we are having here some shifts to the extremes as well. And looking elsewhere, it is kind of a general world trend.
Germany is sadly forced to vote far right since there is no other alternative. Our current Middle left is in real too far left and has absolute no plan what they do, they drive Germanys Industry against the wall and cause real fear.
So let me say it so. the last 8 years, Germany with 80 Million people (and 1/3 of them already have a migration background) has taken 4 Million additional Asylants. We have a situation you as normal German cant find anymore a apartment because ALL of them are rentet, we even have Hotels, Sport halls and container full with asylants we have no living room for. And our current government calls everyone who state that this is a problem a Nazi.
So yes, its time to bite into the sour apple and vote for the only alternative
The US detachment and often willful ignorance about the rest of the world and the plight of those inhabiting it may be nothing new but the reckless abandon of authoritarian leaders toppling democracy (or threatening to) has become far more frequent in this new age of populism. The suspicion and surpression with which the US has regarded European independence - often using NATO for its own ends, is also nothing new but the sense of alarm of the potential consequences is. Notably, Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons to Russia in the 90s, in exchange for guarantees of independence and neutrality. Given the disregard for that in the face of naked ambition and aggression, it is hardly surprising its driven historically neutral nations to try and join a military alliance for safety. Furthermore, it can also be unsurprising that there is disappointment and fury at a US that simultaneously complains about its structural issues, yet insists on its eternal superiority. Hopefully, at least if the US does abandon us, we can at least embargo their arms companies in favour of the plethora of reliable European ones (Glock, Steyr, Dassault, Thales, H&K, Mauser, Rheinmetall, Beretta, Airbus, Saab, BAE, etc.).
You both don't seem so happy anymore. I hope you are well.
I find it funny how this video that you watched use zero source, probably because it is so full of misinformation. Funny. Sorry.
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It has never been hard to figure out why many countries outside EU want it to fall apart. Especially UK. Follow the money. EU will still hold on and get better helping Ukraine.
I dont think we are falling out..we are together in the western,culture sphere..against anti democratic,dictatureships like Russia,China, Iran,Northkorea...of course,we europeans and americans dont see eye to eye on everything..we dont want your gmo foods for example..and we believe in a social safety net for people that cant pay for themselves,bills,foods etc..and we also believe in free education,all things americans see as socialism. So we have our differences, I would never like to live in America,not in a million years,but Im very happy you guys are there,and are a world police,as youve been for many decades now.. I wouldnt say that we fell out with eachother,as its simply just not true...everyone have their differences...even people that love eachother,in families,have differences...its nothing strange,but we have a value system as a whole that sets us apart from people from dictatureships and other oppressed,non democratic countries...we also have our shared western culture..thats not a small thing...
Of course you aren't scared of Russia coming for you in the US...most of us Europeans currently are less than a days drive away from the front line on which Russia is actually coming for one of us though...
Americans must not forget one thing.
In Europe, we have the "WELCOME STATE" that does not exist in America.
So you can't compare illegal migration to America and illegal migration to Europe!
Did you mean Welfare?
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To be fair, I do have to say as European I agree with being more harsh on China. It just makes no sense to let them get away with all the unfair business practices and extreme protectionism, while they can take advantage of our open trade and laws.
And I also agree that Taiwan is actually a great risk to Europe. Thing is, way Europe is now greatly benefits from so called rules based world order and how things are now. But both China and Russia are clearly trying to annex more territory where they can, and use all kinds of authoritarian economic and diplomatic tricks to further their goals.
Don't get me wrong, I have a huge list of criticism for US, just like I have for my native country. But I don't think they are anywhere as bad as China or Russia. Everything needs to be put in context, just because something sucks, doesn't mean it's equal to everything else that sucks to various degrees.
Your ignorance and the way you deal with the topic hurts.
Trump strikes me as Randle McMurphy - you know, like the one from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". Where's Rachel when you need her most ?
Well in central Europe we have a lot of immigrants from Ukraine but probably countries like Italy and Greece have also immigrants from Africa.
Quite rich from TLDR , Not so independent media. imho
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you are lucky to have trump, best president you have ever had.
This video is made by someone from the US so it's not that well informed or objective.
The dissonance is about cultural differences, the US is about social status (needs to dominate, is conflictual) and is materialistic while Europe just wants to chill, doesn't want complications.
At this point it's hard to say that the US is civilized - health care costs, education costs, worker rights, death sentence, crime rates. Europe's relationship with the US is tending towards being like a marriage between AOC and Trump.
Yh fear mongering is more of an American thing, so we act like this are fine even though Russia is a terrifying country that could literally nuke Europe.
Russia cant beat the Ukraine so how the hell are they going to defeat the whole of Europe?
Ukraine is losing regardless of the hundreds of billions of dollars and euro they are receiving from Europe and USA, of the intelligence they are being provided, the know-how. USA is profiting from LNG and weapons exports though. EU is just an obedient donor. Russia is not interested in defeating nations not threatening her security. When it comes to spheres of influence, I'm not so sure about this, but times are surely changing again.
@@Jzscrstsprstr how is Ukraine a threat to Russia, the supposed second super power in the world?
@@robertoleary5470It wasn't. They became such by being a neighbour of Russia that overthrew its elected president and become USA's puppets, by waging a civil war on the russians in Donbas, by celebrating neonazism.
It is about nukes, most coutries don't have them. If a split with us that will change. Russian army would not be an issue
@@Jzscrstsprstr Russia is having to spend a fortune whiles both the EU and US are throwing crumbs at Ukraine, both the EU and US could do more when it comes to Ukraine, but I get the impression, especially from the US that they want the war to drag on because it can be more profitable, whiles it can also drain Russia of resources.
The US after all have always shown that they need wars to happen a lot to feed it's military complex, so as much as they can help, you get a sense that they are doing what's in their own interest and don't really care what's going on in Ukraine, whereas the EU view is hard to judge, but being that Ukraine is much closer, I highly doubt those European countries want a war on its doorstep.
In any case, Russia isn't a threat to the EU countries, hence why there seems to be less panic in EU countries about Russia then there is in the US, after all, you have to put things into context, Ukraine is one of the poorest countries in Europe, they are not in the EU or NATO, they were an easy target for Putin, especially considering the natural resources Ukraine has, we also need to put it into context that Russia's economy isn't that big compared to the EU, US or China, and it's performance in Ukraine is showing that they are a lot weaker than many expected.
Sorry but why is Comedy taken as serious ???
The recent Putin interview with Tucker Carlson was very interesting, particularly the part where Putin describes the U.S. foreign policy and diplomacy since he is in office.
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It’s not Europe falling out with America!
It’s the EU Falling out with America.
Countries like the UK, Turkey and Norway are not it the EU 😉
In the same line of thinking....America represents Continents, there is NO country called America.
@@gerryhatrick6678 Exactly, people should call it United States or US instead, Ironically in Spain they call it Estados Unidos or EEUU, I often misunderstand it in conversations.
But have you watched the Tucker Carlson/ Putin interview? Its really interesting.
I know this isn't a fact many viewers of this channel appreciate or even aknowledge, but many, many Europeans hope Trump will be POTUS again after the dissaster that is the Biden administration. Furthermore, all over Europe liberal and socialistic parties are being surpassed by conservative or even far right-wing parties, which shows how people are fed up with the liberal policies of recent years.
Bullshit. every european with a working brain understands that trump is bad news. don't make these statements that are based on your imagination.
Well in the EU where I live, many people hate Trump. He is dangerous for the world.
Wow! I'm just sooo surprised that you shared your knowledge and expert view about European continent's 50 countries politics in this small TH-cam channel.
I trust your comment, LOL
@@Pterodactylus548 Being European it's no different as an American talking about politics concerning all 50 US States...
I don’t particularly think that Europeans want a second Trump term