Big Muff Pi tone bypass - quick mod gets the midrange back
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Blake shows you how to easily mod a Big Muff Pi tone stack to get the missing midrange sound back. With this pedal mod, you can simply flip a switch to get that great midrange sound, then just switch it off when you want that regular big scoop sound that the Big Muff is famous for. Great pedal mod that anyone can do to take their Big Muff Pi to the next level.
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You should mod that stool so you can reach the pedal
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Hahahaha outstanding my man
The internet is full of f*ck faces...
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My only question is why not drill a hole and put a second footswitch instead of a toggle switch so you don't have to bend down and flip the switch
I'd had the same idea... this way is usefull.
Insert Infinity War, "Because we didn't think of it." Meme here
Actual answer: It's probably less expensive to sell the smaller flickswitch.
Absolutely. Then it would allow you to bring the midrange back on for solos/riffs and drop it back to scooped for rhythm playing
*Intelligence 100*
When you do a demo to show different settings, please play the same licks in both!
Right on!
Exactly. Some chords to.
That is a great mod. Great to have the option there.
Blake is an amazing host. I really enjoy listening to him
I was going to make a joke about stewmac ripping you off by selling you a 25c switch and 2 bits of wire for $10 by calling it a big muff mod kit. then I clicked on the link
But you get a nice bro'sure!
lmao I was going to say this
the instructions are free online, just buy the 25c switch and go wild
I think it sounds better stock.
Absolutely.
In a solo setting sure, but once you get into that band scenario you can slam that pedal on full volume and still can't hear it over the bass guitar and high hats of the drums you'll be wishing you had some mids to work with!
This mod is perfect in a down tuned scenario as I play in drop B. Stock is super muddy in drop tunings.
@@jackrussellbruce7565 you can use a tubescreener or semilar stacked with bigmuff and you have more mids. Not necessary that mod
@@macauley70 pay £80 for a pedal that you have to switch on as well as the big muff every time you want to use it, or pay £10 to turn your original pedal into a more usable and useful version of itself. Hmm 🤔
To be honest - it was tricky to really appreciate any difference the mod made to the pedal when Blake played two totally different riffs for the before and after test.
I find I can hit the Gilmour sweet spot by diming the volume, tone around ten to noon and *gasp* rolling back my guitar's volume knob!
you monster
BURN THE WITCH!
Jeesh! And to think, I almost mentioned using my... tone knobs!... 😬
@@HellcatCustoms Don't you know that those are for DECORATION?
SHAME!!! **ding** SHAME!!!
I’ve been a longtime follower of trade secrets - since long before video format. These have become less and less about quality information for luthiers with tricky problems and clever solutions, but cater toward the amateur guitarist with less actual content. I seriously miss the detailed, and high quality lutherie content of the past.
Hard same, Sparky.
What's wrong with the amateur guitarist getting details from this? You sound just like the elitists who say "it's this way or no way." This is why so few want to learn how to do something. Comments like yours. For shame.
@@kjemradio lol ok
No issues whatsoever with amateur level videos. However, the trade secrets used to be a fantastic resource in the trade. It had tips and tricks that could only be gained through a career like Dan’s. The video quality has dropped off, the production of serious lutherie videos has all but vanished, and these are now just beefed up promotions for products instead of the really great work they used to be.
That would all be fine and well. Except that the lutherie videos have disappeared in favor of the sales pitches. There was (almost) always a sales aspect - featured tools that were used in the repair or build, but it served the purpose of the video/article rather than the article/video existing only to sell a toggle switch.
There was a time when these were as valuable to the trade as any of the lutherie journals out there. It advanced the craft, while promoting the business.
Surely you would want this as a foot switch? (Unless you enjoy clambering on and off your high stool...)
So basically you turned it into every other distortion pedal out there...lol
I'm wondering if you could put this mod on an additional foot switch to turn it on and off. I liked both tones and think the bypass would work well as a solo or cut function while the regular mode could be a more rhythm mode.
you would have to install a jack instead of a switch. wiring should be the same. now this has me thinking if you can use it w/ an amp triggers
Gilmour used the Ram's Head big muff
Huge improvement!
Nice mod
Or just go get a big muff tone wicker. Has that mod built in already and a wicker switch to add clarity and lo fo growl.
Yeah just buy a new pedal when you can mod the muff you already have.
Eleven 😂 sounds like a great financial decision!
So this gets you half the way you get when buying the Tone-Wicker version?
When buying new - it is the better choice I think. When buying used, you may have to wait for one to show up ... mine won't.
Awesome run at 2:46
The mod makes it sound like a too high a gain distortion pedal. The scooped mids is what actually makes it sound like fuzz.
Good idea with the switch.
But is it possible to install a second potentiometer.
One for bass and one for trebble?
Yes it is. I just today read an article written by Brian Wampler wherein he describes how to do that very thing.
the big box reissue has other issues ... volume pot too large, coupling caps too big ... it would be nice if you offered the skreddy-style tone switch where you get your choice of flat, scooped, or pushed mids
So this just disconnects C8 and R5 from GND? Why have 2 wires going to ground then?
This is NOT the Tone Bypass circuit of some V3-4-5-6 vintage Muffs: this is a simplified mod to get around the tone control, but it's not the original circuit. It kinda works, but you get a pretty huge volume boost and it still interacts a bit with the tone control: you need a true bypass (DPDT) switch, an extra cap and an extra resistor for the original Tone Bypass circuit. You also need to cut a trace on the circuit board. I tried both versions of the mod with my NYC Muff and the original circuit works much better...
Teach me
@@dontotte Here you can find a schematic for the V3 and V6 Tone Bypass Muffs, with a slightly different resistor value: www.bigmuffpage.com/Big_Muff_Pi_versions_schematics_part2.html
So what StewMac is saying is that one of the most influential sounds of the guitar from 1971 to 1980 was deficient, lacking and a problem. Thanks StewMac. To be fair I like the mods. Thanks StewMac.
it doesnt bypass completely the tone stack, still theres a change in sound with tone control position
Why not a foot switch instead of a normal one?
Orrrr... Switch a cap to make the tone stack flat or mid humped and keep the tone knob usable and the pedal not obnoxiously loud.
Fun fact: I've done frequency response measurement on the muff with pink noise and tone at noon, and it's less scooped than you might think! That's because the rest of the pedal emphasizes mids and the tone control only partially counters that.
that's my preferred option, too! the tone control is too useful for me to want to do away with it; the only problem imo is the severe mid suckage when it's swept. like you say, changing the cap values fixes that.
@@soupalex it's the signature sound: you fix the problem but it also sounds very different
What this video lacks is a before-and-after look at the circuit diagram, showing the changes made. And, how can a single tone control be referred to as a "tone stack"? The term derives from the conventional practice of representing treble, bass, and mid controls one above the other on a circuit diagram, rather than the more normal left-to-right.
I suppose you might consider it a tone stack as the potentiometer is actually blending the sounds between a high pass filter (bass control) and a low pass filter (treble control). In essence, it's a 2-in-1 as opposed to a simple 'tone' control.
Great mod, but StewMac please replace the toggle with a latching foot switch. Let it be switched by foot and not have to bend down and fumble for the toggle and break the mood.
That was my first thought when I saw what was being done. A "foot" pedal without foot controls for all its functions and adjustments doesn't seem to be Foot Pedal anymore.
That's the $150 version coming soon
NO WHAT ARE U DOING U MONSTER
90% of the character of that pedal comes from its tone stack, just sell it and get one you actually want to play.
White cables go to r5 and c8 holes ok?
But, what about the black cables, where do i solder them? Please help
Sounds great! works on a Little Big Muff?
would this work on a nano big muff?
Is there a mod to bypass the entire Big Muff π?
Can i replace the potentiometer type of connection? Can i use cables?
would’ve appreciated a backing track to actually see the difference in context with a band
prefer original....hear the character
Definitely agree. To my ears, the mod sounds like it transforms an iconic fuzz pedal into a regular run-of-the-mill distortion pedal. If you want that sound, buy a distortion pedal instead of butchering a Big Muff.
@@MrGul Considering the price of a used Big Muff and how many are just sitting on shelves, why not?
@@shawnmcvey7789 In that case I can see a point, but I didn't know they were cheap used over there because they sure ain't cheap used over here in Sweden.
@@MrGul We're swimming in big box Muffs. No, drowning.
Mine came with a bypass switch installed at the factory.
Anny video on how to install a modern 6 saddles bridge to a vintage tele?
How about modding the toe of your shoe so you actually active it.
I wouldn't run both components on the same pole. just get a dpdt switch to get a pole to each component.
I have a green russian BM pi will this apply just the same ?
Lulz, you bought a Big Muff when you really wanted a Rat.
Also... chords would probably give us a better idea of the difference.
ErickC yes, chords instead of typical noodling
there do black cables go?
Didn't they have that switch in back on the vintage ones?
Would it work with the ehx nano big muff?
Can you use a SPST switch instead?
This mod kit is sold out! :(
When I hear the name "Big Muff" I laugh and think that Mike Matthews at Electro Harmonix has a great sense of humor.
“Big Muff Pi” the joke is “muff pie.” lol
You use a on-on toogle switch? Or maybe a on-off toogle switch?
it is an on on, basically with one if the positions you have (unfortunately both on the same line) continuity, as the cap and the res aren't lifted. other position you have the two components going to a dead road.
Buy the switch for a couple bucks and they pretty much show you everything you need to know here. On difficulty scale this is a 2.
Is this the same as the OP Amp switch on some other big muffs?
Yeah, exactly the same mod.
this was the question and answer i was looking for thank you
With the tone and musical history of David Gilmour. I wonder what his take is on this Big Muff Mod?
He used ram head big muff
Is this the same idea as what's going on in the Tone Wicker version of the Big Muff?
Absolutely. The Tone Wicker has the tone off switch out of the box.
Just use an eq pedal
what exact switch is it?
Spdt on on
Will this work on the little big muff?
Yes, but the components will have different labels and numbers.
Just buy a Green Russian circuit-Tall Font is my favorite,bass and gain on it are perfection and you still have those mids.
Big muff is a fuzz
Hey stewmac team,
Can you do a video showing how to extend too short pickup cables/wire?
Greetings from Germany
I usually just solder new wires to the ends of the short ones
Just get the pedal that sounds the way you want to begin with. Tho I find using the amp I like I don't need a distortion pedal. Unless they run on high voltage they all squash the tone. Just the nature of a 9 volt device.
You can get fuzz tones out of an amp?
@@jackrussellbruce7565, Fuzz is just distortion. Maybe the amp isn't giving you the character you want in your distortion so I guess that's why people use pedals. For me I don't like much more than a slightly over-driven tone. Distortion by nature compresses the signal to much for my taste, you lose all your dynamics, which is the nature of compression.
@@bradt.3555 Fuzz is distortion x100, which I've never seen available from an analogue tube amplifier
This mod costs 8 dollars, but you could do it from one dollar by buying a switch. 😂 You probably have wires at home, but this much would cost around 5 cents.
I like it without the MOD better…..
Just use a eq 🤷♂️
A stomp swich would help me a lot instead, got a serius backpain.
No disrespect, great project ...but haven't you literally removed the sound the pedal is know for. Why not just use a different pedal that gives you the sound you want?
Man the hate on the coment section is real
DEburr the hole!!!! Be a good machinist. :-)
Yeah, now it sounds like a fuzz, but not a Big Muff π. You clearly haven’t heard Mudhoney or Jimmy Hendrix use these correctly :D
You guys know that basically, with that same budget, maybe a little more, you can build a big muff clone, with this mod.
Because of this, all the engineers from that Department at electro harmonix got fired and lost their pensions. They should never miss the midrange again !
jesus man play some chords
Ok ! who threw in the common sense. ? your ruining the 21st century, stop it !. LOL !
Big Muff = electric kazzoo effect. Horrible. Leave the 60's in the past.
So you think Gilmour's sound is horrible? Wow your missing a lot of great music from Pink Floyd and David's solo music.
@@Cpt_Adama really? I have owned most of their trash for 3 decades. I don't listen to it any longer. It's too painful and sloooooow.
@@TheFissionchips Yea millions of people have to be wrong, but one man's trash is another man's treasure. I guess Rolling Stone, Guitar Player, R&R Hall of Fame, etc. must be crazy to think that David Gilmour is one of the best guitar players ever. I'm glad you set me straight, lol.
TheFissionchips So you’re unable to hold an intelligent discussion without having to use insults to bully your point along. You sound like you have anger issues, you should seek help for your condition. Best of luck.