This is another very sad story that needs to be told. Very unfortunate about Carl's childhood. Today, Carl's father would probably have been facing legal problems, for not keeping his gun secured and locked up. Very unfortunate story all the way around. Thank you very much Leo and Heather, for telling this story.
I some times wonder with these young children and teens if they had been taken from abusive parents at infancy and placed with a family member or CPS if maybe their destiny could have been changed,ive been noticing young one have been getting more voilent and angry and itbreaks my heart. I raised my 4 kids by myself and im so glad they turned out kind loving and respectful of other folks.
I have a story of another child that was tortured to death here in Greenup County KY. Mary Magdalene Pitts. Very sad and very bad parent and house maid. I wonder why some parents are even allowed to have kids ! Or even how they figured out what to do to create a child! Just from this story alone!
This story is older where there’s no help from him and he had to deal with a problem himself you have to remember that they did not like strangers and had to deal with it himself so he did what he could he didn’t understand what happened he just did what was best for the situation
When it was mentioned that his parents were alcoholics, it made me wonder if Carl was a baby born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, which will cause a wide range of behavioral problems, impulsiveness and trouble getting along with friends and relating with others. Not that I feel any less pain for the loss of Cecil and his family. A sad story. Thank y’all for bringing this story, that the majority would never have heard about.
@@kathleensullivan4547 I get it. So sorry you went through it. I was severely abused from infancy on. I escaped at 18 and never went back. I internalized everything. Sexual, beatings, alcoholic mother that did nothing to protect me. It was hell. I turned out to be a good person after going wild for a time. Stay safe and try to leave that garbage in the past where it belongs.
Tragic story for both boys. Some children are more emotionally stable than others.Who knows what violence the boy might have experienced living in an alcoholic home? Carl killed himself at an early age. Did guilt make him end his life? We will never know. Tragic for the family of the boy that was killed and the poor boy himself. Thank you for this video.
My grandma was playing outside and a little girl down the street wanted her doll. She and the little girl got into a fight and the little girl hit her in the eye with a ring that had lost its stone. She continued to wear the ring with just the wire setting. Needless to say it was during the depression and the eye became infected and my grandma lost her eye. It troubled her through out her life. Little kids will do terrible things. I feel very bad for Cecil’s folks. Very sad. Little Carl was a cute little kid but who knows what he was thinking.
I was one lucky duck when I was around 9 or 10 years old can't really tell you much only we didn't get along with kids around our home in KCMO. You're talking early 1970's my twin would go pretty much each day out in the back yard and throw a ball up and hit it with an aluminum sliver bat. One day arguing with the kids next door I just took the bat from my twin and hit the boy around age across the back of the head. I can still hear the thick part of the bat connect to his shull if I think about it even after 50 years or more. He chased me some around a old metal scrap area by a tree. I don't remember anything after that.
@@HealingHappyAli Exactly, the pre-frontal lobe. It's the last part of the brain to develop: not fully developed until the age of twenty-five. This accounts for a lot of risk taking behaviour on the part of teenagers!
As a six year old I was a fighter. One of the things the children in our neighbourhood enjoyed doing was throwing stones at each other and I was an excellent shot. By the age of eight I was no longer a fighter and have been one to shy away from confrontation ever since. I’m now in my late fifties. I believe that it was my parents actions that made made me understand that violence is not the answer. My parents never even argue they are the kindest people ever and taught me right from wrong. Upbringing can have such lasting effects on children. If only those parents didn’t have a gun or at least locked it away.
This is soooo weird yet awesome. I literally was just watching this video then went to find a grave and thought his mom’s name sounded familiar and then came to find out that this boy, Carl, was my grandpa’s first cousin. Their mother’s were sisters. Thank you for the background history. We had not heard this before.
Wow to say shocking that you have a family member who did something so bad. But I don't hold it against children who kill sometimes they do know what their doing and others don't
That’s just amazing no one had shared of the events. I suppose some prior generations would prefer not sharing such tragic history. I noticed on the stone Cora doesn’t have a date of death.
Stephen King set his scariest stories in small towns because they can harbor darkness! I appreciate your comments about the victim. Often in salacious stories like this one the victim is forgotten.
@@VintageRose75 Stephen king was born in maine. Maine is considered the most haunted state in the country. I can conquer that it is INCREDIBLY haunted. My grandparents lived there since I was a kid and I always went up to visit each year. That’s his inspiration. Maine is just a bunch of small towns besides a few cities. Very eerie state.
@@VintageRose75 Sometimes fundamentalism and evangelicalism. Have you ever noticed all the True Crime episodes that take place in the Bibble (sic) Belt?
The term "infant" is used in this legal context as an individual who had NOT gained majority age....which is either 18 or 21 depending on which state the person is living in. The term "infant" when not used in a legal context refers to a child who cannot as yet walk.
We very nearly had another 6 year old murderer with the boy in Virginia who shot his first-grade teacher. Who knows how that is going to pan out. That child has serious behavioral issues to the point that required one or the other of his parents to be in the classroom with him at all times. the day of the shooting, neither of his parents were in attendance as required.
I absolutely love your channel. I have a slew of family in Kentucky and spent a lot of time there. This story is a crazy one. Taking a look at the laws then for children committing crimes like that and the laws now, it's just mind boggling. You two take care of yourselves.
Interesting story, sad too. In 2000, in Mt. Morris Michigan, there was a six year old boy named Dedrick Owens, who brought a gun to school and shot and killed his six year old classmate. Her name was Kayla Rolland. This was publicized as the youngest murderer.
Hello, I just found your channel, I love history and I also lived in KY for 8 years, it was a beautiful piece of USA land. I loved especially the fall season, beautiful tree leaf colors... Just breathe taking. Thank you for the history of Carl, and remembering Cecil. 2 young children, both devastating circumstances. Sad. Blessings and prayers to you and yours ✨🙏🕊️🙏✨
What a story! I can see how a fued like the Hatfields and McCoys could have started over something like this. If I was the father of the dead boy (and wasn't a God fearin' person) I would have gone after the dad for not keeping his gun put away better.
He would have used an axe or a knife instead. When a person decides to kill another, there are plenty of weapons to choose from. David killed Goliath with a slingshot. Cain killed Abel with a chunk of iron. Samson used the jawbone of an ass.
@FRLN500 Are you serious!? He was 6! It wasn't premeditated, as in it was a provoked attack, and even if he had calmly plotted to kill someone using a knife or axe there's less chance it would have been fatal. This is the danger with guns. Someone can take a life in the blink of an eye without any thought or energy on behalf of the assailant...in many cases accidentally!!! A gun literally allows the taking f a life with a single finger movement. Not the same as exerting all ones strength/energy/rage, struggling up close and personal, for an extended period with a knife or axe in a loud, bloody, gruesome scene of murder.
@FRLN500 Case in point: Cecil lost his temper and struck Carl with a piece of metal and Carl survived. Carl lost his temper and struck Cecil with a gun and Cecil died. Not all weapons are equal. Guns allow ease and effacy in ending life with very little energy, strength, skill, intent, emotion, motivation etc This is why we arm soldiers and law-enforcement with guns and not axes/knives/sling-shots.🙄 In LE guns are used to extinguish mortal threat while tazer's are use to de-escalate.
@@ellaova If I was being charged by a bear or moose, I'd actually rather have an axe. Anything can be killed with an axe, and there's only one step to using it. In close proximity to someone pulling a gun on me, I'd reach for my knife rather than my gun, for the same reason. Do you have any form of combat, hunting or firearm training/experience whatsoever? Happiness is an emotion, too. So, I hope you're really happy about the 400,000+ se xual assaults that are prevented each year in the US by women who privately own and use firearms to protect themselves. Anti-gun is pro-gRape, so I hope you're not a filthy little coward (anti-gun)-ist.
GREAT JOB to my Bluegrass Hillbilly neighbors!! 💙❤️🔥This is so interesting and only a couple hours away from me too!! Thanks for educating us!! Keep up the great work!💙❤️🔥
Alot of people must not know that a shotgun uses a shotgun shell... full of shot... shot are metal balls. Cecil was hit by shot and 19 metal balls entered him... he wasnt shot 19 seperate times from a shotgun!
Very sad and falling in hard times. I could imagine Carl was scared and not knowing what would come. And later on taking his own life showed his remorse thank you both for sharing this story. Hope you all are feeling better
I as a father of 4 boys who all turned out top notch citizens It pains me to see how a 6 year old could even have thoughts like that. It just saddens me to see how tragic some children lives turn out especially at such a tender age of 6.
Thank goodness for men like yourself, who step up and raised your boys to be respectful, loving and productive members of society. I salute you ❤.I'm afraid in this day and age too many of our babies are "free- range" children who wander around aimlessly and lost.
Times were rather different, then. Revenge came easy and for SOME-NO CONSEQUENCES. Such an ugly tale exist in my own family history. After being attacked by six males with their faces covered, my great uncle, a giant of a being (6'8") later on was killed by a much bigger mob. This occurred about the same epoch as this crime-1929. He'd beaten off the first six villains so badly a few required medical care and with injured egos in hand they returned to commit murder most foul. Somewhere, down Louisiana way, in a sand bog he remains, quietly waiting for Judgement Day and justice. Our world is filled with evil! God bless and stay safe.
I remember reading up on this story before, and it seemed like a lot of the surviving documents had different info like ages of the boys, where Cecil was shot, full names, etc. It was just a sensational news story at the time. A tragic incident feels all the more tragic to me when it's just news, so I'm glad this video remembers Cecil as a person and a victim.
Sad story. It boils down to how children are raised. Carl had an abusive upbringing. Maybe it would have been better for Carl to serve his sentence to have a better life.
Reform schools at that time were often more violent than most violent homes. Guards were often violent sexual predators themselves. A lot of kids died at reform schools. Whatever story the guards came up with would be believed because they were the adults in charge. No one asked the kids what happened because who’s going to believe a law breaking child. In the minds of authorities, they were just liars, thieves, and malcontents who deserved their harsh punishments.
Times were very different then. Many children were left to their own devices while parents worked. There weren't systems available to help them like today.
Thank you for posting this video. I had forgotten this case even though a couple of years ago I had done some research on it and found several newspaper clippings on it. I do a blog entitled "Looking Back: A Glimpse Into Kentucky's Forgotten History." I may have to do an in-depth blog on this case sometime in the near future.
I love history. Also old graveyards. Here in Ireland we have really old graveyards where some skeletal remains have come to the surface because back then the bodies weren't buried as deep are they now.
Yes I work in a cemetary school it's tough children getting younger and younger violent disrespectful no rules or consequence but we also have children coming from disfuntional homes so sad my god
As someone in a family with a teacher, god bless you. She recently quit for nursing. She couldn't take it anymore. The horror stories of the gremlins masquerading as kids she had to deal with could fill books. Kids can be terrible with their anger and impulsivity.
WOW. Well you are qualified to make the comment. Kids can be cruel, kids can be mean, kids are humans after all, and we are the deadliest species on the face of this EARTH.
@@5050TM They are human. It seems when God created us, he left out some important ingredients in the recipe. We have been killing each other for centuries. I was a substitute teacher, and eventually quit. The stress levels in the teaching profession are through the roof. You will burn out, you will. The worst part is you have to deal with the parents that don't want to hear the truth about they're "Little Angels." To all those brave souls out there that stay the course until retirement, God bless each and every one of you.
It’s hard to imagine someone making a living driving a taxi in Paintsville. I lived in Van Lear for eight years in the 80s and there wasn’t a big call for taxis as you could walk easily from one end of the town to the other.
AWESOME intro ,you two ! You guys just keep getting better and better and im so proud and here for it ! Love hearing all the stories you both tell , the history , and the way you go about telling it all . Glad yall are feeling better , and glad youre back,Heather🎉 ~Sending awesome vibes from SW Arkansas ❤
You two are great and I love your stories of the mountains and the folklore of yesteryear's. My wife and I have been to some of those places recently and often just a day or two behind you. Pretty sure one day we'll cross paths. It'd be a good day for sure!
I just stumbled over your channel, I love this way of story telling and you doing all the efforts to bring us some history! Greetings from the Netherlands 👋👋👋
What an incredible & interesting channel to discover & happily subscribe. So very well done & natural. I really like that you both contribute & it is researched thoroughly with care & detail. This episode reminds me when I was a police Officer in Florida, the youngest child I ever arrested was 8yoa in the late 1980 's, early 1990's( the minimum age to be charged with a crime). He had stolen, opened & hid within his clothing multiple video tapes. The 2 adults that came in with him & directed him to steal, fled & abandoned him. I led him to my cruiser by the hand,(not cuffed) he was crying so hard. The state & business (Zayres) dropped charges & I heard his guardian was only angry that he got caught. He never had a chance, later I was made aware that he was in our holding cell at age 15 for grand theft auto with other youth. Sad & preventable. He was crying then as well & no one came forward in his family to support him. He went to Juv detention & I lost track of him. Carl seemed to act on impulse without an awareness of consequences for his actions. So sad that the other child was killed but remembered. Thanks for sharing.
I just entered the words Kentucky history in my TH-cam search and happened upon this. I'm a proud Kentuckian. I never knew this story. Quite sad but thank you for sharing it. I would love to place flowers on Cecil's grave and may drive too painful to do so one day
I grew up in west central Indiana and my family would go to Tennessee and Kentucky for vacations. Both loved History, so we would go to a lot of museums and historical sites. Ohio is a great state too! I had ancestors in all 4 of those states, so I research county and state histories a lot!
I really love your channel! I enjoy all your stories and the history of that area of West Virginia and Kentucky. Thank you so much for getting out there to bring these to us!
This is a sad , sad , story. It made me cry. I watch it all around , parents caught in thier own self gratification. When the children of this world need to stand up and be hero's. Calling all angels. Sounding trumpets it is time to make things right.
I'm from Michigan. Families go 4 generations back in Michigan. I really enjoy listening to stories of other families in other areas of the world and the USA. I really enjoyed your presentation. Thank you
there has been another boy who murdered his 6y old classmate after trying to kiss her or inappropriate touch her. This little monster already had aggressive behavior, but was allowed in class. He had brought a gun (wth would any decent/sane/responsible adult) to school, killing the little girl. He was not charged with any crime. I think his parent was charged with a misdemeanor charge. Not good enough😊
About 50 years ago, I`m 57 now, I remember going to visit my Dads Aunt Tippie. I don`t know her real name I just called her tippie. She lived just outside Winchester Ky. A well with a pump handle and an outhouse. She had a long wall across the road that both dad and her said was a slave wall. Built by slaves. Ever hear of them? The wall in your video reminded me.
Clicked on this video at random and the blue p in the beginning made my head turn. I spent a large portion of my life in paintsville. Never heard this story.
I just found your video. You did a great job. I'm from Kentucky but I had never heard this story before. It's a sad story for both families. I'll be waiting for your next video.
I have subscribed to your channel. This was a sad part of history. Children must be taught kindness, respect of people and animals, to share, empathy. I do not think Carl was taught that. So sorry Cecil passed so young. I was able to work with children and did my best to teach them those necessary tools to a good life.
Love your channel! had one of my best friends in life born in Floyd County Kentucky in the early 30s, his stories were fascinating to me. Do you have any content planned about the goings-on in Floyd County? From the things I was told about you should
Thanks for sharing this sad story. I imagine the boy's family were devastated. I have no idea why the town's people were impressed by a kid murdering another child.
This is another very sad story that needs to be told. Very unfortunate about Carl's childhood. Today, Carl's father would probably have been facing legal problems, for not keeping his gun secured and locked up. Very unfortunate story all the way around. Thank you very much Leo and Heather, for telling this story.
I some times wonder with these young children and teens if they had been taken from abusive parents at infancy and placed with a family member or CPS if maybe their destiny could have been changed,ive been noticing young one have been getting more voilent and angry and itbreaks my heart. I raised my 4 kids by myself and im so glad they turned out kind loving and respectful of other folks.
You’re awesome for raising 4 kids by yourself
I have a story of another child that was tortured to death here in Greenup County KY. Mary Magdalene Pitts. Very sad and very bad parent and house maid. I wonder why some parents are even allowed to have kids ! Or even how they figured out what to do to create a child! Just from this story alone!
I have 7 raising my youngest 3 on my own I don't cps is a Good option they seem to do more harm than good
You were the reason your kids turned out well.
This story is older where there’s no help from him and he had to deal with a problem himself you have to remember that they did not like strangers and had to deal with it himself so he did what he could he didn’t understand what happened he just did what was best for the situation
When it was mentioned that his parents were alcoholics, it made me wonder if Carl was a baby born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, which will cause a wide range of behavioral problems, impulsiveness and trouble getting along with friends and relating with others. Not that I feel any less pain for the loss of Cecil and his family. A sad story. Thank y’all for bringing this story, that the majority would never have heard about.
So true!
More likely Carl was abused, and learned this behavior when dealing with others.
Good call. I was born with it and rage was the mood all the time
@@kathleensullivan4547 I get it. So sorry you went through it. I was severely abused from infancy on. I escaped at 18 and never went back. I internalized everything. Sexual, beatings, alcoholic mother that did nothing to protect me. It was hell. I turned out to be a good person after going wild for a time. Stay safe and try to leave that garbage in the past where it belongs.
I think you hit it right on the spot, you are absolutely right. ❤
Tragic story for both boys. Some children are more emotionally stable than others.Who knows what violence the boy might have experienced living in an alcoholic home? Carl killed himself at an early age. Did guilt make him end his life? We will never know. Tragic for the family of the boy that was killed and the poor boy himself. Thank you for this video.
My grandma was playing outside and a little girl down the street wanted her doll. She and the little girl got into a fight and the little girl hit her in the eye with a ring that had lost its stone. She continued to wear the ring with just the wire setting. Needless to say it was during the depression and the eye became infected and my grandma lost her eye. It troubled her through out her life. Little kids will do terrible things. I feel very bad for Cecil’s folks. Very sad. Little Carl was a cute little kid but who knows what he was thinking.
I was one lucky duck when I was around 9 or 10 years old can't really tell you much only we didn't get along with kids around our home in KCMO. You're talking early 1970's my twin would go pretty much each day out in the back yard and throw a ball up and hit it with an aluminum sliver bat. One day arguing with the kids next door I just took the bat from my twin and hit the boy around age across the back of the head. I can still hear the thick part of the bat connect to his shull if I think about it even after 50 years or more. He chased me some around a old metal scrap area by a tree. I don't remember anything after that.
Little kids can be so impulsive especially before they develop the cause and effect part of their brain.
@@HealingHappyAli Exactly, the pre-frontal lobe. It's the last part of the brain to develop: not fully developed until the age of twenty-five. This accounts for a lot of risk taking behaviour on the part of teenagers!
I wonder if he became an alcoholic like his parents? Could have contributed to him taking his own life… what a sad little life he had…
As a six year old I was a fighter. One of the things the children in our neighbourhood enjoyed doing was throwing stones at each other and I was an excellent shot. By the age of eight I was no longer a fighter and have been one to shy away from confrontation ever since. I’m now in my late fifties. I believe that it was my parents actions that made made me understand that violence is not the answer. My parents never even argue they are the kindest people ever and taught me right from wrong. Upbringing can have such lasting effects on children. If only those parents didn’t have a gun or at least locked it away.
Sometimes a local library has old newspapers or information. I appreciate what you do.
This is soooo weird yet awesome. I literally was just watching this video then went to find a grave and thought his mom’s name sounded familiar and then came to find out that this boy, Carl, was my grandpa’s first cousin. Their mother’s were sisters. Thank you for the background history. We had not heard this before.
Wow 😲 Really you could not make this up
@@adairadair9490 Very True! It was a surprise to my dad and his siblings.
Wow to say shocking that you have a family member who did something so bad. But I don't hold it against children who kill sometimes they do know what their doing and others don't
That’s just amazing no one had shared of the events. I suppose some prior generations would prefer not sharing such tragic history. I noticed on the stone Cora doesn’t have a date of death.
Your story sounds like it would be interesting
Stephen King set his scariest stories in small towns because they can harbor darkness!
I appreciate your comments about the victim. Often in salacious stories like this one the victim is forgotten.
Really? What is it about small towns that makes him feel that way?
@@VintageRose75 Stephen king was born in maine. Maine is considered the most haunted state in the country. I can conquer that it is INCREDIBLY haunted. My grandparents lived there since I was a kid and I always went up to visit each year. That’s his inspiration. Maine is just a bunch of small towns besides a few cities. Very eerie state.
@@VintageRose75 Sometimes fundamentalism and evangelicalism. Have you ever noticed all the True Crime episodes that take place in the Bibble (sic) Belt?
Big cities have their share of darkness!
@@marianparoo1544they take place everywhere!
I realize society often has evolving qualifiers, but calling a 6 yr old an infant is a stretch
Definitely that's like national enquirer
The term "infant" is used in this legal context as an individual who had NOT gained majority age....which is either 18 or 21 depending on which state the person is living in. The term "infant" when not used in a legal context refers to a child who cannot as yet walk.
Infantile age
@@tula1433 Age of the Infantile..
...Age of Aquarius...
Infant simply means a very young child. I'd say 6 is very young..
Very sad story, thank you Leo and Heather for bringing these obscure events to light. Well done
We very nearly had another 6 year old murderer with the boy in Virginia who shot his first-grade teacher. Who knows how that is going to pan out. That child has serious behavioral issues to the point that required one or the other of his parents to be in the classroom with him at all times. the day of the shooting, neither of his parents were in attendance as required.
Where did he get the gun from?
@@franrowe8696 , his mother. And, strangely, the case has gone quiet - nothing reported about the outcome of charges.
Thank you for telling about cases like this and Muriel. No one else would remember them.
I absolutely love your channel. I have a slew of family in Kentucky and spent a lot of time there. This story is a crazy one. Taking a look at the laws then for children committing crimes like that and the laws now, it's just mind boggling. You two take care of yourselves.
Come see us in Richmond
Carl's younger brother, Jimmie, drowned at 16. A tragic family tale all around,
Was Carl there at the time?
@@JPW965 good question
Interesting story, sad too. In 2000, in Mt. Morris Michigan, there was a six year old boy named Dedrick Owens, who brought a gun to school and shot and killed his six year old classmate. Her name was Kayla Rolland. This was publicized as the youngest murderer.
I had just mentioned this. Sadly, he had already shown/exhibited aggressive behavior. No charges for him and minor charge for the parent (s).
Hello, I just found your channel, I love history and I also lived in KY for 8 years, it was a beautiful piece of USA land.
I loved especially the fall season, beautiful tree leaf colors... Just breathe taking.
Thank you for the history of Carl, and remembering Cecil.
2 young children, both devastating circumstances. Sad.
Blessings and prayers to you and yours
✨🙏🕊️🙏✨
Thanks for watching!
What a story! I can see how a fued like the Hatfields and McCoys could have started over something like this. If I was the father of the dead boy (and wasn't a God fearin' person) I would have gone after the dad for not keeping his gun put away better.
He would have used an axe or a knife instead. When a person decides to kill another, there are plenty of weapons to choose from. David killed Goliath with a slingshot. Cain killed Abel with a chunk of iron. Samson used the jawbone of an ass.
These days the parents that owned the gun would have been charged with murder.
@FRLN500
Are you serious!? He was 6! It wasn't premeditated, as in it was a provoked attack, and even if he had calmly plotted to kill someone using a knife or axe there's less chance it would have been fatal.
This is the danger with guns. Someone can take a life in the blink of an eye without any thought or energy on behalf of the assailant...in many cases accidentally!!!
A gun literally allows the taking f a life with a single finger movement. Not the same as exerting all ones strength/energy/rage, struggling up close and personal, for an extended period with a knife or axe in a loud, bloody, gruesome scene of murder.
@FRLN500
Case in point: Cecil lost his temper and struck Carl with a piece of metal and Carl survived. Carl lost his temper and struck Cecil with a gun and Cecil died.
Not all weapons are equal. Guns allow ease and effacy in ending life with very little energy, strength, skill, intent, emotion, motivation etc
This is why we arm soldiers and law-enforcement with guns and not axes/knives/sling-shots.🙄
In LE guns are used to extinguish mortal threat while tazer's are use to de-escalate.
@@ellaova If I was being charged by a bear or moose, I'd actually rather have an axe. Anything can be killed with an axe, and there's only one step to using it. In close proximity to someone pulling a gun on me, I'd reach for my knife rather than my gun, for the same reason.
Do you have any form of combat, hunting or firearm training/experience whatsoever?
Happiness is an emotion, too. So, I hope you're really happy about the 400,000+ se xual assaults that are prevented each year in the US by women who privately own and use firearms to protect themselves.
Anti-gun is pro-gRape, so I hope you're not a filthy little coward (anti-gun)-ist.
GREAT JOB to my Bluegrass Hillbilly neighbors!! 💙❤️🔥This is so interesting and only a couple hours away from me too!!
Thanks for educating us!! Keep up the great work!💙❤️🔥
Alot of people must not know that a shotgun uses a shotgun shell... full of shot... shot are metal balls. Cecil was hit by shot and 19 metal balls entered him... he wasnt shot 19 seperate times from a shotgun!
Very sad and falling in hard times. I could imagine Carl was scared and not knowing what would come. And later on taking his own life showed his remorse thank you both for sharing this story. Hope you all are feeling better
I as a father of 4 boys who all turned out top notch citizens It pains me to see how a 6 year old could even have thoughts like that. It just saddens me to see how tragic some children lives turn out especially at such a tender age of 6.
Thank goodness for men like yourself, who step up and raised your boys to be respectful, loving and productive members of society. I salute you ❤.I'm afraid in this day and age too many of our babies are "free- range" children who wander around aimlessly and lost.
For a7 yr old to have the knowledge of getting a gun to seek revenge at that young of age, that behavior and it knowledge is learned. Very sad.
Times were rather different, then.
Revenge came easy and for SOME-NO CONSEQUENCES.
Such an ugly tale exist in my own family history.
After being attacked by six males with their faces covered, my great uncle, a giant of a being (6'8") later on was killed by a much bigger mob.
This occurred about the same epoch as this crime-1929.
He'd beaten off the first six villains so badly a few required medical care and with injured egos in hand they returned to commit murder most foul.
Somewhere, down Louisiana way, in a sand bog he remains, quietly waiting for Judgement Day and justice.
Our world is filled with evil!
God bless and stay safe.
They just model what they see or know
You know what would be interesting......... getting information on the victims family and what stage of life they're in.
I remember reading up on this story before, and it seemed like a lot of the surviving documents had different info like ages of the boys, where Cecil was shot, full names, etc. It was just a sensational news story at the time. A tragic incident feels all the more tragic to me when it's just news, so I'm glad this video remembers Cecil as a person and a victim.
Thanks for this guys! Such a sad case. Beautiful cemetery too!
Sad story. It boils down to how children are raised. Carl had an abusive upbringing. Maybe it would have been better for Carl to serve his sentence to have a better life.
Reform schools at that time were often more violent than most violent homes. Guards were often violent sexual predators themselves. A lot of kids died at reform schools. Whatever story the guards came up with would be believed because they were the adults in charge. No one asked the kids what happened because who’s going to believe a law breaking child. In the minds of authorities, they were just liars, thieves, and malcontents who deserved their harsh punishments.
Something to consider
Edward, Not always.
Times were very different then. Many children were left to their own devices while parents worked. There weren't systems available to help them like today.
Your voice and delivery are so well tempered and calming, i. An listen to you so easily
The parents are at fault for not having the gun locked up. They should go to jail
Thank you for posting this video. I had forgotten this case even though a couple of years ago I had done some research on it and found several newspaper clippings on it. I do a blog entitled "Looking Back: A Glimpse Into Kentucky's Forgotten History." I may have to do an in-depth blog on this case sometime in the near future.
I'm related to Carl's family. My family is from Paintsville and surrounding areas. A couple hundred years in that area
All the best to you and your family
I am too. Carl was my gpa’s cousin. Their mother’s were sisters.
I love history. Also old graveyards. Here in Ireland we have really old graveyards where some skeletal remains have come to the surface because back then the bodies weren't buried as deep are they now.
Another good one. I love the bits of forgotten information you guys share. Thank you.
After having taught elementary school for many years, I can easily see this happening.
Yes I work in a cemetary school it's tough children getting younger and younger violent disrespectful no rules or consequence but we also have children coming from disfuntional homes so sad my god
As someone in a family with a teacher, god bless you. She recently quit for nursing. She couldn't take it anymore. The horror stories of the gremlins masquerading as kids she had to deal with could fill books. Kids can be terrible with their anger and impulsivity.
WOW. Well you are qualified to make the comment.
Kids can be cruel, kids can be mean, kids are humans after all, and we are the deadliest species on the face of this EARTH.
@@5050TM They are human. It seems when God created us, he left out some important ingredients in the recipe. We have been killing each other for centuries.
I was a substitute teacher, and eventually quit. The stress levels in the teaching profession are through the roof. You will burn out, you will. The worst part is you have to deal with the parents that don't want to hear the truth about they're "Little Angels."
To all those brave souls out there that stay the course until retirement, God bless each and every one of you.
@@anneliedorman2435 a cemetary school? Holy Christ....you work there. Surely you jest.
Obviously he was a troubled child. Very sad story. Thanks for the interesting story.
It’s hard to imagine someone making a living driving a taxi in Paintsville. I lived in Van Lear for eight years in the 80s and there wasn’t a big call for taxis as you could walk easily from one end of the town to the other.
AWESOME intro ,you two ! You guys just keep getting better and better and im so proud and here for it ! Love hearing all the stories you both tell , the history , and the way you go about telling it all . Glad yall are feeling better , and glad youre back,Heather🎉
~Sending awesome vibes from SW Arkansas ❤
Thanks so much!!
They really do! I love them.
You two are great and I love your stories of the mountains and the folklore of yesteryear's. My wife and I have been to some of those places recently and often just a day or two behind you. Pretty sure one day we'll cross paths. It'd be a good day for sure!
I just stumbled over your channel, I love this way of story telling and you doing all the efforts to bring us some history! Greetings from the Netherlands 👋👋👋
Thank you both very interesting very relaxing best wishes from SCOTLAND bless 🙏❤🙏💖✌️☮️
What an incredible & interesting channel to discover & happily subscribe. So very well done & natural. I really like that you both contribute & it is researched thoroughly with care & detail. This episode reminds me when I was a police Officer in Florida, the youngest child I ever arrested was 8yoa in the late 1980 's, early 1990's( the minimum age to be charged with a crime). He had stolen, opened & hid within his clothing multiple video tapes. The 2 adults that came in with him & directed him to steal, fled & abandoned him. I led him to my cruiser by the hand,(not cuffed) he was crying so hard. The state & business (Zayres) dropped charges & I heard his guardian was only angry that he got caught. He never had a chance, later I was made aware that he was in our holding cell at age 15 for grand theft auto with other youth. Sad & preventable. He was crying then as well & no one came forward in his family to support him. He went to Juv detention & I lost track of him. Carl seemed to act on impulse without an awareness of consequences for his actions. So sad that the other child was killed but remembered. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for tell and show us everything you know about this little boy, I like this little town with a perfect day and good company
I just entered the words Kentucky history in my TH-cam search and happened upon this. I'm a proud Kentuckian. I never knew this story. Quite sad but thank you for sharing it. I would love to place flowers on Cecil's grave and may drive too painful to do so one day
Beautiful cemetery thanks for all your hard work hope your feeling well.
I just found this channel. I really like it. I always lived in Ohio but remember great visits to Kentucky.
I grew up in west central Indiana and my family would go to Tennessee and Kentucky for vacations. Both loved History, so we would go to a lot of museums and historical sites. Ohio is a great state too! I had ancestors in all 4 of those states, so I research county and state histories a lot!
I really love your channel! I enjoy all your stories and the history of that area of West Virginia and Kentucky. Thank you so much for getting out there to bring these to us!
Our pleasure, and we're glad you liked them. Thank You. :-)
Another sad one... Thanks for sharing!!!!
This is a sad , sad , story. It made me cry. I watch it all around , parents caught in thier own self gratification. When the children of this world need to stand up and be hero's. Calling all angels. Sounding trumpets it is time to make things right.
Really enjoyed this story. I have never heard of it before. I’m glad I subscribed.
Sad on all accounts.
Finally something New and Not hashed to death umpteen thousand ways. Thank You Sincerely. It's Nice to hear New, interesting factual tales.
What a lovely little town. Every town has some kind of history.
Little channels like this are a wealth of valuable information.
Excellent job.
Danke schön.
I'm from Michigan. Families go 4 generations back in Michigan.
I really enjoy listening to stories of other families in other areas of the world and the USA.
I really enjoyed your presentation. Thank you
Such a sad story But I never knew this til now. Thank you for sharing
I'm from Kentucky!! My grandparents told use about this!! My grandfather had his guns in a corner in the living room, and told use not to touch them
This is a different kind of crime documentary but kudos on the work on it guys. God bless you and yours.
Thank you for the story and the tour.
so sad 😥 thank you for sharing 🙏🖤☠️💀🤘
I came across your video. I appreciate you sharing the information. Keep up the good work.
A six years old child cannot possibly be considered criminally responsible, he can't have truly understand the consequences of death.
I’m so glad I found your channel! I find the story telling very interesting. Really appreciate the time and effort you guys put in to the research.
😢heartbreaking story.
Y’all are very awesome for bringing us along on these journeys. Thank you
Just found this channel. Love history
The idea of revenge may have been more of a societal norm in that area at that time.
Hi, I’m from Manchester in the U.K. that was a very interesting story. Thanks
Thank you 🙏
What was Carl's life after the murder , he also died young. Did he commit any other crimes? What did he died of?
there has been another boy who murdered his 6y old classmate after trying to kiss her or inappropriate touch her. This little monster already had aggressive behavior, but was allowed in class. He had brought a gun (wth would any decent/sane/responsible adult) to school, killing the little girl. He was not charged with any crime. I think his parent was charged with a misdemeanor charge. Not good enough😊
About 50 years ago, I`m 57 now, I remember going to visit my Dads Aunt Tippie. I don`t know her real name I just called her tippie. She lived just outside Winchester Ky. A well with a pump handle and an outhouse. She had a long wall across the road that both dad and her said was a slave wall. Built by slaves. Ever hear of them? The wall in your video reminded me.
Clicked on this video at random and the blue p in the beginning made my head turn. I spent a large portion of my life in paintsville. Never heard this story.
Terrible tragedy. Thank you for this video and very well edited. Poor boys and family’s indeed.
Thank you so much for these amazing stories we would never know without dedicated You- tubers!
Very sad story.
Poor Heather. I know she was running for the vehicle to get out of that wind🤪🙏🏻✌🏽💜.
Thank you two for these wonderful videos😍
Thank you for sharing the victim’s story!
An 8 yr old slashed a boy with a knife at a b-day party recently.
Then tried to attack the cops. Way out of control
Very sad but interesting piece of history. Thank you
Some story... heartbreaking.
I just found your video. You did a great job. I'm from Kentucky but I had never heard this story before. It's a sad story for both families. I'll be waiting for your next video.
I have subscribed to your channel. This was a sad part of history. Children must be taught kindness, respect of people and animals, to share, empathy. I do not think Carl was taught that. So sorry Cecil passed so young. I was able to work with children and did my best to teach them those necessary tools to a good life.
Thank you 🙏
Powerful. Thanks for sharing
Actually, both your voices are easy to listen to. Thank you
My mom grew up in Lexington/Pikeville area. It's such a beautiful place. So sad
Sad for the young boy who was shot!
New sub!
Thankyou and every blessing to you both for sharing!
Thank you for taking us along. Great camera work. “Ill be back”😊
Very nice narrative good videos and interesting 😮 greetings from Honduras Central America 🇭🇳 🥹new fan!
Thank you for sharing . Very interesting and sad . Blessings 🙏
I've lived in Paintsville for 45 years and have never heard about this.
Another great video guys. Keep them coming,your such great history and story tellers. ✌&❤
Interesting story. Thank you for sharing.
This story popped up & I had to see what happened!
Thank y’all for sharing this !
Learned something new today so I subbed!
Thanks for subbing!
Love your channel! had one of my best friends in life born in Floyd County Kentucky in the early 30s, his stories were fascinating to me. Do you have any content planned about the goings-on in Floyd County? From the things I was told about you should
You two are wonderful! I thought I had already subscribed but hadn’t 😢. I just did! Thank you for being people I would want to personally know❤
Thank you for sharing this with us
Thanks for sharing this sad story. I imagine the boy's family were devastated. I have no idea why the town's people were impressed by a kid murdering another child.
Sounds so much like the 1st grader that shot his teacher in Virginia this past February.
I just found your channel today & I really like it! Very intriguing!
Thanks and welcome aboard
Really enjoy the history part of yalls shows and hope you continue to follow leads
Oh we plan too! Thank you 😊
So glad to see someone featuring real Kentucky stories. Let me know if you need help in northern Kentucky.
I enjoyed your walk thru the noisy town. Interesting story