There's this urban legend going around about a university student who contracted scurvy because he only ate "falukorv" (a type of thick sausage which is most commonly fried in slices) and "snabbmakaroner" (parboiled macaroni). The moral of the story is that if he'd only put ketchup on it, he'd have been fine.
Actually, this whole ketchup thing is not just a Sweden thing. For example in Russia we have the same situation, sometimes we can cook plain pasta, without any sauce, just to put ketchup or mayonnaise (or both at the same time) on top afterward. Ketchup on top of a bread slice - why not? And after I moved here to Sweden I was really glad that situation is the same :D
@@JustaBritAbroad I'm not sure but my best guess - it was some similar ketchup+pasta TV advertisement in our countries a long ago, our parents/grandparents found that very convenient and easy to cook and now our generation just accepted it completely because we've been doing it since our childhood.
Eh ... Surely you have to ask the toastmaster if you want to speak at the wedding dinner? Unless you're just giving a toast after the scheduled speeches are done. Also, how unswedish isn't it to give spontaneous speeches!? 🤣
I agree. All Swedish weddings I have attended have had a toastmaster that _requires_ you to ask for a slot, and you will get your slot days in advance. However, there will always be that one aunt..
Korvstroganoff shouldn't have brown sauce, it should be a creamy tomato sauce. We use Ketchup/ Lingon jam on everything, yes ketchup families are seldom lingon family and vice versa.
@@JustaBritAbroad Well brown sauce here is that gravy, I know some people use a packet of brown sauce mixed with ketchup or tomato paste to make the sauce. I dont, I follow a 1970 recipe that uses milk, mustard, tomato paste and spices and slowly reduce it to a sauce.
Greetings from Finland! Once again our country is almost similar on all of those things. I don´t think that we commonly put ketchup to all pasta. Mostly with common spagetti or macarons. And if there are already tomato sauce in the food it depends does it taste enough of tomatoes. I don´t put ketchup in lasagne but some times if i eat spagetti bolognese and the sauce is mild (canned from supermarket) then i might put a little bit to get the right taste balance 😁. I mostly make spagetti sauce from grinded meat that is in brown sauce so that is the reason to use ketchup with it. Rice is big no no! I never put ketchup on rice dish. That´s weird! Snuss is illeagal to sell in Finland and we can legaly carry three towers over the border for our own use. Still it´s very common and popular everywhere in Finland these days. Most of the young people have tried it and many uses it so here is huge black markets for snuss. Snuss was forbidden in Finland 1995 by EU (it was forbidden for every other country accept from Sweden becouse of tradition/culture reasons). 90´s there weren´t much of snuss users in Finland. Mostly at the shore those areas that had much more common habbits and traditions with swedish and some athletics used snuss. Athletics like hockey and football teams spreaded that habbit among youngsters slowly all around the country when smoking wasn´t "cool" thing any more.
As a Swedish teacher you are extremely good at knowing the number of the weeks, but when you’re free from work for longer than two weeks like in the summer, you have no idea.
Speed cameras are only there to slow down traffic in certain locations. That's why there is a sign notifying the driver before the camera. Also I believe snus is illegal to sell in EU and only Sweden has an exception. Finns travel here to buy it IIRC.
One practical thing with week numbers is when you have things happening on alternating weeks. That way it's easy to know if some week a few months away is odd or even, and thus whether or not that's the week we do the thing.
The week numbers are a very useful tool. For exemple, here they collect the trash Tuesdays, even weeks. Whenever you're in doubt, "Is the garbage truck coming today,?" you take a look in the calender to see whether it's an odd or even week.
I am swedish and I don't like ketchup (to sweet), but am well aware of that I am an outlier. When it comes to the week numbers we use it a lot at work when we do planning, so yes I knew right away that it is week 37 right now.
Have you tried the less sweetened or without sugar? They're quite nice. I've switched over completely and now the original one feels sickeningly sweet and less tomatoey 🙂
@@catsarkioja7423 The only version that works for me is pure tomato paste. However, I find it that I don't need any substitute for ketchup on most food.
You have these weeks through out the year that help you keep track of where you are! Week 9 is sportlov (in Stockholm any way, it’s spread out between 8-10 to not over crowd the skii slopes) week 27-30 is the summer vacation weeks, week 44 is always the höstlov etc 😁
Born 'n' raised in Sweden, korvstroganoff is one of the most usual matlådor and I see it at least couple times a week. NEVER IN MY 34 years of life have I seen someone put ketchup on korvstroganoff. Just sayin.
Svensk här vet många som har ketchup på korv stroganoff. Jag har ketchup på stuvade makaroner vet flera som tycker det är konstigt. Alla har vi olika vanor.
I think the difference might and this is a guess for my part regarding U.K and USA: that in U.K and U.S.A maybe it is common to ask the toast master at the wedding and they plan it in. My experience of wedding and other formal event like that is more common here in Sweden that you tell the toastmaster in good time before the wedding so they can map out the order and they leave space for if theres more people who at the day decide that they want speak but then you normally find the toastmaster at before everything starts and tell tem. And if I understood the video correct seems that in U. K and USA you as guest gets told how many speeches therer and who is doing beforehand they start to speak. In my expericence that information belongs to toastmaster and those who speak. As non toasting guest you will hear the toastmaster announce who gonna speak now and who they are. Then it is very unswediish to tell someby who has started to make a toast/speech spontaneoous so will let that happen and the toastmaster and the rest of the speakers will adjust to that event. Then you have informell weddings without toastmaster and it of course up to everyone to speak when they want to if the wedding couple not have decided another form. This is my experience and understanding though I havent been to so many formal weddings and events (nor informal weddings except my one own, who just was a civil act in the town house and fika afterwards. Very cheap weeding :).
@Marcus Olofzon Thank you. In U.K or U.S. A you mean? But I don´t understand whcih h wedding "Just a brit abroad" has been to here in Sweden, we plan everyday life and also weddings and we are not a spontaneus people in general.. But we also dont´like to make a fuss about things.
About the speed thing. Going full force, pedal to the metal, on the open road and then slowing back down when you the camera is coming up. I think most people do that. Or maybe i’m just projecting my own faults onto others😅 lol
In swedish weddings there's usually a person called toastmaster that you have contact before the wedding if you want to toast the couple. But it is the bride and groom that decides if they want a toastmaster.
Why on earth would someone think stroganoff is a brown sauce. It's invented in Russia for the Stroganoff family with beef in the original. The sauce is with tomato puree, cream and mustard. Sport vacation, atumn holiday etc for week nr. No, not anybody can speak. There is a toastmaster.
One of my favorite uses of ketchup is as replacement for traditional pizza sauce when I make "anything goes" pizza. It's basically microwaved bread coated with a layer of ketchup and topped with whatever toppings you have at hand and a large amount of cheese.
About the speed cameras here in sweden, don't know how it is in other countries but HERE, there is always a warning sign before each and every single speed camera giving you a fair bit of time to slow down to the speed limit. Those cameras far as i know are also almost universally regarded as an annoyance more than anything else.
The thing with speed cameras is that they are placed around places where people really shouldn't be driving too fast like intersections or schools. Then if someone drives a bit too fast inbetween really doesn't make much harm. With the british system you can drive slow where it's not important and fast at intersections and still have an average under the limit.
The speeding cameras are often put in specific places where you would want the cars so slow down. Like intersections or busy parts. So that’s why you often see them directly after a change of the speed limit, because that often means you’re arriving in a place where people live. If you drive north on the E4 you’ll notice it quite clearly.
when you work as a teacher, you always know what week it is. Also if you go in school or have kids in school, you probably know which week it is. Because the Autum break and the "sport break" is the same week every year. Here in Karlstad, we have Autum break in Week 44 and Sport break in week 9.
I sort of agree with the whole week numbering thing. It’s almost impossible to keep track off and of no use in private life except for when talking about holidays. But at work, when working on a project for example, it can be quite handy. Instead of always referring to start and end date of a deadline or a rollout, you can just refer to a week. This speeds communication up a bit and can be easier to remember and keep track off. It dos however require that you have access to a calendar. I was always a sceptic when it came to using week numbers until I changed my line of business and went into project planning.
Jag tar ketchup på korv med bröd, ibland på varma ostmackor och har ibland använt det i köttfärssås om jag har slut på tomatpuré. Som barn åt jag falukorv med makaroner med ketchup på.
Came here to say that. Teachers love their week numbers. We’ll be starting with swimming lessons at week blah blah blah. We’ll be introducing reading homework from week yada yada yada. Don’t forget next teacher parent conference that is on Wednesday week something something. You can book teacher parent talks from week something else. As a parent I’m just: Give me some effin dates!!!
Haha, my half Swedish children LOVE their ketchup! I discovered snus a while back and you used to be able to order it online but it's technically banned in Europe except for the Nordic countries. Now the UK has a "tobacco free nicotine pouch" sold here made in...Sweden. haha!
@@JustaBritAbroad The laws were lobbied for by the tobacco companies, they didn't want health... less unhealthy competition. If I don't misremember, a Swedish company made itself impossible by publicizing that a EU lawmaker asked for bribes regarding this? (That might have been some other horrible law change, about surströmming or something?)
Ha ha ha .... when I was younger I had ketchup on fish fingers !? I'm Swedish btw. I'm a besserwisser so I can not stop myself !? "Snus" is not just finely ground wet tobacco in bags. It's a fairly new phenomenon. "Real" snus is used without "tea bags". It's like the British "snuff" but wet. We are a few who use "real snus" in the old-fashioned way.
At work we planning weeks ahead then it's really good to use the week numbers. Then if you have 24/7 phone duty at work now and then the weeks numbers is good to planning your life with.
Yeah, I don't know anyone who puts ketchup on rice. I have eaten Korv stroganoff with macaroni and ketchup many times, but when I eat korv stroganoff and rice I don't put ketchup on that.
@@Jiiimbooh I did, sometimes when I was young. It's great, but only in really small amounts. Ketchup has nothing like biblical status though. It's rather the most low key and low status of all sauces, condiments, or spices (after salt).
In tourism weeks are the key. This is how we thought of weeks in the swedish mountains. W.51-52,53 Christmas W.1 New year W.2-6 Danish invasion W.7 Göteborgare High energy and fun W.8 Skåningar Bad skiers but relaxed and Fun w.9 Stockholmare Lots of complaints and no patience with anything. (worst week all winter, we normaly had a big party to celebrate that the week was over.) W.10 Norrlänningar Stayed in Norrland not much to see. W.11-12 Nice wether great skiing, old people or kids bellow the age of 7. W.13-16 Easter depending on year. Nice weather terrible skiing. W.17-18 extremly bad skiing so people got drunk instead. During summer we had all weeks figured out to. Stockholmsveckan v29, Politikerveckan, Medeltidsveckan v32 osv. Sept to mid dec I never cared about weeks then I had my time off.
hahaha I feel like I've learned so much from this Christmas, and now I know exactly when I should be visiting the mountains and when I should be staying out of the way! week 7 sounds a lot more fun that week 9 for example haha
The week numbers are used in many ways. I work at a large IT company, and we always referr our planning ahead as to week numbers. Also in private life, it is very common that you mention the weeek number for an event.
Most use weeks in work planning because is hard to tell how namy work days it is between Friday 17/9 until Friday 3/12 but easy to tell number of work days it is between w39 day5 and w48 day 5. Privately however the traditional dates is preferred, and the only time its of interest in which week is to relate to work planning.
UK is on spot 4 in ketchup consumption in the world. The list is 1 Canada 2 Finland 3 Sweden 4 United Kingdom 5 Norway 6 Austria 7 USA I agree that we all drown Spsgettti I Ketchup as we learned to do it at our free school lunches to improve taste. My Geordie friends in Newcastle and Frieda in Guildford eat much more French fries/chips and always with ketchup.
Numbering the weeks is usually used at work, segmenting the year. Now it’s week 38 (actually it’s week 138, 1 is the year 2021). When the boss speaks he say “the job needs to be finalised on Thursday week 42 and in week 44 we all go on a business trip”. That leaves us with 3 weeks of working days and the last 3 days to wrap up the work. But if you say the work has to be finalised 21 October it’s not as easy understanding how many days you have to finish of the work and if it’s in the beginning or the end of a week. Topping the cake every one knows that you usually have days of at school week 7, 44 and also the summer 24-34 isch..and the winter 52-01. …I guess it’s what method you are used to.
Fun fact: week numbers in the EU follow a different standard than the US (of course). The EU starts the first complete week of the year as week 1, but in the US the partial starting week is week 1.
For the week thing it is used i varies areas. For example at my place you are not allowed to park there on Tuesdays between 9.00-12.00 on uneven week numbers. Becasue at that time there will be a cleaner there to clean the streets. I also used the week numbers at my old job. I worked at a warehouse. We used 37-1 for example. That means the package are to leave week 37 and day one which is Monday. We also used it to look back to the year before to see how much we were sending out on that week so we know how many employees we need for that date. About the cameras. They are there at specific areas for the cars to slow down. There might be a dangerous crossing or turn. Beacuse we can only fine the person driving we can't measure the speed between the cameras because you can't prove it is that person who is driving all the time. We have the technology in the cameras but it is not in use.
Actually, week numbers is an ISO standard and used all over Europe and in large parts of Asia. In fact, the UK is the odd one out in Europe that doesn't use week numbers. Besides all the Nordic countries, they are also used in Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands, France, Belgium and so on... The week numbering is used within businesses where weekly planning can be just as important as monthly planning, so it's true that for individuals, the only time they encounter week numbers is when they plan for their vacation but for a business it's used it all the time for planning of projects, budget, and other things.
Thanks Greg for yet another interesting video. FYI, snus was first documented in this country 1637 and tobacco was commonly farmed here in the 1700:eds. However, snus as we see it today was developed during the early 1800:eds and one of the first (if not THE first) was Ljunglöfs no 1, also known as Ettan. Snus has a long history and tradition in this country and has been fought for in the EU parliament who wished to ban it.
Spot on about the week numbers. I have no idea what week it is except when it comes to summer holiday and you have to pick which weeks you want off work. And it’s crazy that snus is illegal in the rest of the EU (except Finland I think). It’s great harm reduction compared to smoking. Lung cancer rates among Swedish men are lower than most countries (in the past mostly men used snus but more women are switching to snus too nowadays)
The Ketchup thing is ok also with other countries (as so for the wedding speech and car speed). The weeks are a very Swedish thing and also Snuse, but the snoos could be allined with the chewing of tabacoo done in America. The difference is that in Sweden the "tabacoo" is in a pouch where in America it is "free" in the mouth. To be honest, I still don't know if Swedes spit or not the snuse....tabacco is spit out.
Great video and thanks for your thoughts about Sweden well and i guess it can be well confusing when you are not used to our customs. But i think you are doing just fine.
Calling bs on the weeks thing! You totally forgot that most students up till Gymnasiet, parents with kids, and to a limited extent grandparents also care about week 44; the autumn break.
I´m deffenetly one of those who don´t know which week it is. Sometimes at work I get contacted by customers that wants to have a meeting at for example tuesday week 15 or a supplier contacts me to tell me that my order will be shipped at 15-3 reffering to day 3 in week 15. It´s so confusing and I always have to look it up to know which day it is. Using the date is much easier. Regarding snus, I I can´t understand why someone wants to do it. And seeing someone smiling and see that brown mess....no thanks
Swede here, and the numbering of the weeks is so annoying. Someone will ask: "Can we have a meeting in week 38?" And everyone else of course ask "When is that? What week is it now?" A pretty big portion of the population love this numbering though, and know exactly which week a certain date is. I feel like we are a silent majority who don't like it, but haven't dared to speak against it. :D
Hey, missed that part of "snus" having almost no cancer risk -- and snus doesn't damage your lungs. Of course it isn't healthy, it is still tobacco, but between a factor ten to a hundred less bad than cigarettes. (There is some risk for mouth cancer, but even that is less than for cigarettes.) And yes, it is weird that so many people don't know they should put ketchup on pasta?
My friend ate ketchup on her knäckebrödsmacka at lunch in school. I thought she was crazy but I’m not a big fan of ketchup. About knowing the week numbers - teachers, as myself, knows them well since the whole school system is built and planned from them. I don’t know the week numbers in the summer just because it’s my vacation. 😄
Yeah, no brown sauce in my korv stroganov. Never met anyone who does it like that. Tomato base all the way. I ate a lot of fish sticks with rice and ketchup as a kid though.
@@JustaBritAbroad Yes. All stationary speed cameras only take pictures from the front. I wonder why they don't fix this and change the laws so it is the same as in the rest of Europe.
Can confirm the one about the ketchup. Had some for supper. It was fried eggs and two left over sausages with ketchup on top. Everything is better with ketchup! Also; What?! I thought putting ketchup on pasta or spaghetti or whatever was a universal thing. But it’s not? I’m shocked 🤭
When I was in school I allways knew what week it was since tests and assignments would be given in terms of friday week 39 insted of 1 october. Then the teacher (or yourself in higher grades) would keep a list of which tests and assignments where due each week. Kindergardens are I think also highly ordered around the week numbers. There are probably other work places that also scedules by week number but I think in general its mostly familys and students who properly keep track of what week it is unless as you say the have summer vacation that week or are planing a skiing trip. On the topic of average speed cameras we like to call them norwegian speed cameras since they have them everywhere there (or at leats more than regular ones). While they are not common here they do exist in some places but maybe its more around the big cities like gothenburg and stockholm.
I have ketchup to rice, pasta, i basically have it to most things. It's not unhealthy to eat ketchup. I eat it almost every single day. I don't know which day or week it is. I love being a Swede. I have friends that uses snus. It's basically just tobacco. Like i said. I love being a Swede
Nope, I may be Swedish but I use ketchup very seldom on top of my food. If you crave nicotine, the good thing about "Snus" is that you don't bother your surrounding with any smoke. Furthermore it is way less detrimental to your health than smoking.
You are getting Moore popular...you deserve Moore subs. About the ketchup on everything. I know Swedish that you use Even om pancakes... 🙂 Men jag har inte det på köttfärssås...bara vuxenketchup..dvs sweetchilisås. 😎
The system of numbers the weeks are for business mostly. You should talk about the “jantelagen”, even about the fact that Swedish people think they are American.
There are some professions who knows the numbers of the week and one of them is the teachers.... I know because I am teacher who have very poorly knowledge of the week unless I have a calendar. But are our bosses, the principal an probably their bosses talks in weeks number when we talks about whats is happening and when. And if you want to know which food the school cafeteria is serving this day you need to know/look up the week number.
Actually we usually have Toastmasters at weddings and if You want to make a speach You notify them in advance. And ofc I know what week it is, it's week 37, I live by that system.
Weeks are used for appointments too. "Which week suits you? Tuesday of week xx, OK?" From what I've heard, the chewing tobacco in the US is similar to snus, though not as common - this is often brought up by Americans if Swedes try to talk about the uniqueness of snus
It's not the same. Chewing tobacco is whole tobacco leaves rolled together and choppet up in smaller pieces. Snus is very fine chopped tobacco, or maybe you could even say grinded.
Sweden is actually the only country in the EU where it is legal to sell snus. We have to apply for a exception from EUs rules to be able to sell. That’s probably the reason for other people to know about it. If it were level to sell to other countries we would probably export a lot of it.
National Ketchup Day? Yes indeed - there should be one. And the week number thing is now Swedish - it's an international standard (ISO 8601, and BS ISO 8601-1:2019 in the UK), but many countries have opted to not pay too much attention to the week number thing, or use a different basis for calculating the week number (looking at you, USA).
Per eats pasta with vegetarian meatballs, peanuts, and ketchup. He loves it. He's not a fan a mayo and uses ketchup for everything when it comes to condiments.
En grej Sverige har är : Sveriges namnsdagar sorterad efter datum. Den nuvarande namnlängden har funnits sedan 2001, och innehåller sedan dess både ennamns- och tvånamnsdagar. Totalt listas 616 namn, varav 300 är kvinnonamn och 316 är mansnamn.
Det är så intressant att höra hur du upplever oss svenskar 🙂👍 Jag bodde i nuneaton i 3 år och jag kände att det var ganska oroväckande hur farligt det var i trafiken i uk, men jag har värkligen trivts i englan men borta bra men hemma bäst 🤘😎
Haha ketchup i can't relate to that even if im Swedish 🤣. I'm not a big fan of it. I only use it on 1 occasion and that's on stuvade makaroner. Don't like it otherwise. Btw korvstroganoff is a Swedish variation of beef stroganoff originally from East Europe.
you aren't Maria?! interesting!! and good point out korvstroganoff being the Swedish version of beef stroganoff. we have that in England too and its yum!!
The UK is the forth highest per capita consumer of ketchup after Canada (3.1kg), Finland (3 kg) and Sweden (2.7 kg). In the UK they eat 2.4 kg per capita, so I think it's a question of where in the country you are. I don't like ketchup, so I agree that it's shocking how often Swedes use ketchup, but I hardly ever see people use ketchup (in Stockholm) nowadays except for on Bolognese pasta (which seems to be a holdout from when they where kids). Back when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s people did use ketchup on almost everything.
There's this urban legend going around about a university student who contracted scurvy because he only ate "falukorv" (a type of thick sausage which is most commonly fried in slices) and "snabbmakaroner" (parboiled macaroni). The moral of the story is that if he'd only put ketchup on it, he'd have been fine.
Mm.. Also heard that one got scurvy from just eating noodles
@@kristofferhellstrom Yup; heard that one in the 90-ies. & did so myself, while at UU, when short of cash.
Eat noodles that is.😅
Do you realise you put random Swedish words in your English text?
@@vulc1 Swedish yes, random no. I chose them very carefully to convey exactly which products are meant.
Actually, this whole ketchup thing is not just a Sweden thing. For example in Russia we have the same situation, sometimes we can cook plain pasta, without any sauce, just to put ketchup or mayonnaise (or both at the same time) on top afterward. Ketchup on top of a bread slice - why not? And after I moved here to Sweden I was really glad that situation is the same :D
hehe :D
Mmmm, the classic student fine dinning of Pasta Rosso.
no way, really? I'd love to know where this whole tradition originated from haha
@@JustaBritAbroad I'm not sure but my best guess - it was some similar ketchup+pasta TV advertisement in our countries a long ago, our parents/grandparents found that very convenient and easy to cook and now our generation just accepted it completely because we've been doing it since our childhood.
In Japan also, they put ketchup on for example rice and egg sometimes (like the dish omuraisu).
Eh ... Surely you have to ask the toastmaster if you want to speak at the wedding dinner? Unless you're just giving a toast after the scheduled speeches are done. Also, how unswedish isn't it to give spontaneous speeches!? 🤣
I agree. All Swedish weddings I have attended have had a toastmaster that _requires_ you to ask for a slot, and you will get your slot days in advance. However, there will always be that one aunt..
Yeah. I was toastmaster at my sister's wedding and guests had to tell me in advance (up to before the dinner) if they wanted to make a speech.
haha that's a good point actually - especially the part about how unswedish it would be to get up and give a speech uninvited haha
The toastmaster will move things along to the next segment of the evening if too many people would makes toasts
I’m a teacher and we use the weeks constantly. Only today I told one of my classes ”ok, we are now in week 37 and the exam is in week 39”.
Korvstroganoff shouldn't have brown sauce, it should be a creamy tomato sauce. We use Ketchup/ Lingon jam on everything, yes ketchup families are seldom lingon family and vice versa.
Ah så speciell jag känner mig nu👍😂
I meant browny orange, its the way I described that creamy tomato colour😅 but good point!
@@JustaBritAbroad Well brown sauce here is that gravy, I know some people use a packet of brown sauce mixed with ketchup or tomato paste to make the sauce. I dont, I follow a 1970 recipe that uses milk, mustard, tomato paste and spices and slowly reduce it to a sauce.
Greetings from Finland!
Once again our country is almost similar on all of those things. I don´t think that we commonly put ketchup to all pasta. Mostly with common spagetti or macarons. And if there are already tomato sauce in the food it depends does it taste enough of tomatoes. I don´t put ketchup in lasagne but some times if i eat spagetti bolognese and the sauce is mild (canned from supermarket) then i might put a little bit to get the right taste balance 😁. I mostly make spagetti sauce from grinded meat that is in brown sauce so that is the reason to use ketchup with it.
Rice is big no no! I never put ketchup on rice dish. That´s weird!
Snuss is illeagal to sell in Finland and we can legaly carry three towers over the border for our own use. Still it´s very common and popular everywhere in Finland these days. Most of the young people have tried it and many uses it so here is huge black markets for snuss.
Snuss was forbidden in Finland 1995 by EU (it was forbidden for every other country accept from Sweden becouse of tradition/culture reasons). 90´s there weren´t much of snuss users in Finland. Mostly at the shore those areas that had much more common habbits and traditions with swedish and some athletics used snuss. Athletics like hockey and football teams spreaded that habbit among youngsters slowly all around the country when smoking wasn´t "cool" thing any more.
We was same contries many years. I think that do, we are similar in lot a things :) .
As a Swedish teacher you are extremely good at knowing the number of the weeks, but when you’re free from work for longer than two weeks like in the summer, you have no idea.
Speed cameras are only there to slow down traffic in certain locations. That's why there is a sign notifying the driver before the camera. Also I believe snus is illegal to sell in EU and only Sweden has an exception. Finns travel here to buy it IIRC.
Yes, the speed cameras are placed in dangerous places, with a high risk of accidents.
good point Magnus!
Norwegians and Danes too, every friday evening is filled with Norwegian cars on the Ica parking lot.
One practical thing with week numbers is when you have things happening on alternating weeks. That way it's easy to know if some week a few months away is odd or even, and thus whether or not that's the week we do the thing.
The week numbers are a very useful tool. For exemple, here they collect the trash Tuesdays, even weeks. Whenever you're in doubt, "Is the garbage truck coming today,?" you take a look in the calender to see whether it's an odd or even week.
I am swedish and I don't like ketchup (to sweet), but am well aware of that I am an outlier. When it comes to the week numbers we use it a lot at work when we do planning, so yes I knew right away that it is week 37 right now.
Exactly its for work planning.
Have you tried the less sweetened or without sugar? They're quite nice. I've switched over completely and now the original one feels sickeningly sweet and less tomatoey 🙂
@@catsarkioja7423 The only version that works for me is pure tomato paste. However, I find it that I don't need any substitute for ketchup on most food.
Det värsta exemplet jag mött var en man som hällde ketchup på sina pannkakor. Där går gränsen, även för mig.
no way😱😱😱
You have these weeks through out the year that help you keep track of where you are! Week 9 is sportlov (in Stockholm any way, it’s spread out between 8-10 to not over crowd the skii slopes) week 27-30 is the summer vacation weeks, week 44 is always the höstlov etc 😁
yeah kids have a better understanding of weeks, and to some extent parents I guess. adults however really dont
Born 'n' raised in Sweden, korvstroganoff is one of the most usual matlådor and I see it at least couple times a week. NEVER IN MY 34 years of life have I seen someone put ketchup on korvstroganoff. Just sayin.
That's because I don't know where he got brown sauce from. It should be tomato sauce or at least a sauce with a lot of tomato sauce in it.
Perhaps not ON it, but in the sauce. That´s how I always made it.
Svensk här vet många som har ketchup på korv stroganoff.
Jag har ketchup på stuvade makaroner vet flera som tycker det är konstigt. Alla har vi olika vanor.
@@Diabolus1978 Ja man kan ju ha rätt sen kan man ju också välja att ha fel.
Even in Sweden you need to ask the toastmaster/host on the wedding if and when you can give a speak at the wedding. In fact there often is a queue ! 🤪
I think the difference might and this is a guess for my part regarding U.K and USA: that in U.K and U.S.A maybe it is common to ask the toast master at the wedding and they plan it in. My experience of wedding and other formal event like that is more common here in Sweden that you tell the toastmaster in good time before the wedding so they can map out the order and they leave space for if theres more people who at the day decide that they want speak but then you normally find the toastmaster at before everything starts and tell tem. And if I understood the video correct seems that in U. K and USA you as guest gets told how many speeches therer and who is doing beforehand they start to speak. In my expericence that information belongs to toastmaster and those who speak. As non toasting guest you will hear the toastmaster announce who gonna speak now and who they are. Then it is very unswediish to tell someby who has started to make a toast/speech spontaneoous so will let that happen and the toastmaster and the rest of the speakers will adjust to that event. Then you have informell weddings without toastmaster and it of course up to everyone to speak when they want to if the wedding couple not have decided another form. This is my experience and understanding though I havent been to so many formal weddings and events (nor informal weddings except my one own, who just was a civil act in the town house and fika afterwards. Very cheap weeding :).
I understood him as that in the UK you typically wouldn't consider yourself someone to speak at the wedding unless it was in your formal role?
@Marcus Olofzon Thank you. In U.K or U.S. A you mean? But I don´t understand whcih h wedding "Just a brit abroad" has been to here in Sweden, we plan everyday life and also weddings and we are not a spontaneus people in general.. But we also dont´like to make a fuss about things.
Korvstroganoff you make with tomatoepaste and cream so it's more of "red" sauce and even thou i'm an big ketchup fan I dont use it for K.Stroganov.
Good point! I think this is the more regular way to prepare korv stroganoff, from what I've understood at least!
About the speed thing. Going full force, pedal to the metal, on the open road and then slowing back down when you the camera is coming up. I think most people do that. Or maybe i’m just projecting my own faults onto others😅 lol
In swedish weddings there's usually a person called toastmaster that you have contact before the wedding if you want to toast the couple. But it is the bride and groom that decides if they want a toastmaster.
Why on earth would someone think stroganoff is a brown sauce. It's invented in Russia for the Stroganoff family with beef in the original. The sauce is with tomato puree, cream and mustard. Sport vacation, atumn holiday etc for week nr. No, not anybody can speak. There is a toastmaster.
One of my favorite uses of ketchup is as replacement for traditional pizza sauce when I make "anything goes" pizza.
It's basically microwaved bread coated with a layer of ketchup and topped with whatever toppings you have at hand and a large amount of cheese.
haha wow, that's a new recipe on me!
About the speed cameras here in sweden, don't know how it is in other countries but HERE, there is always a warning sign before each and every single speed camera giving you a fair bit of time to slow down to the speed limit. Those cameras far as i know are also almost universally regarded as an annoyance more than anything else.
Week numbers are much used for everything that's work-related.
good point Johan!
The thing with speed cameras is that they are placed around places where people really shouldn't be driving too fast like intersections or schools. Then if someone drives a bit too fast inbetween really doesn't make much harm. With the british system you can drive slow where it's not important and fast at intersections and still have an average under the limit.
The speeding cameras are often put in specific places where you would want the cars so slow down. Like intersections or busy parts. So that’s why you often see them directly after a change of the speed limit, because that often means you’re arriving in a place where people live. If you drive north on the E4 you’ll notice it quite clearly.
when you work as a teacher, you always know what week it is. Also if you go in school or have kids in school, you probably know which week it is. Because the Autum break and the "sport break" is the same week every year. Here in Karlstad, we have Autum break in Week 44 and Sport break in week 9.
good point actually! its a lot more common place in a school environment!
3 minute macaroni + meatballs + ketchup is like, my comfort food. I had it all the time as a kid when we were on summer vacation.
I use ketchup very sparingly, preferring it on sausage or hamburger. Cream and butter on the other hand is useful in lots of foods.
I sort of agree with the whole week numbering thing. It’s almost impossible to keep track off and of no use in private life except for when talking about holidays. But at work, when working on a project for example, it can be quite handy. Instead of always referring to start and end date of a deadline or a rollout, you can just refer to a week. This speeds communication up a bit and can be easier to remember and keep track off. It dos however require that you have access to a calendar. I was always a sceptic when it came to using week numbers until I changed my line of business and went into project planning.
Jag tar ketchup på korv med bröd, ibland på varma ostmackor och har ibland använt det i köttfärssås om jag har slut på tomatpuré. Som barn åt jag falukorv med makaroner med ketchup på.
vad bra då! det funkar!
People with kids are usually aware of the weeks all year round. 😜 School holidays are always in certain weeks. 👍
good point Sara! kids certainly makes a big difference!
People in school (uni etc.) are most often aware of the weeks as well ☺️
Came here to say that. Teachers love their week numbers.
We’ll be starting with swimming lessons at week blah blah blah.
We’ll be introducing reading homework from week yada yada yada.
Don’t forget next teacher parent conference that is on Wednesday week something something.
You can book teacher parent talks from week something else.
As a parent I’m just: Give me some effin dates!!!
Alltid roligt att kolla på dina videos
Haha, my half Swedish children LOVE their ketchup! I discovered snus a while back and you used to be able to order it online but it's technically banned in Europe except for the Nordic countries. Now the UK has a "tobacco free nicotine pouch" sold here made in...Sweden. haha!
is it really banned elsewhere in Europe? how interesting, I didn't know that!
@@JustaBritAbroad The laws were lobbied for by the tobacco companies, they didn't want health... less unhealthy competition.
If I don't misremember, a Swedish company made itself impossible by publicizing that a EU lawmaker asked for bribes regarding this? (That might have been some other horrible law change, about surströmming or something?)
When you go to school you know exactly which week it is. They don't even use dates in school. It's just "the test is on wednesday week 12."
Ha ha ha .... when I was younger I had ketchup on fish fingers !? I'm Swedish btw.
I'm a besserwisser so I can not stop myself !? "Snus" is not just finely ground wet tobacco in bags. It's a fairly new phenomenon. "Real" snus is used without "tea bags". It's like the British "snuff" but wet. We are a few who use "real snus" in the old-fashioned way.
At work we planning weeks ahead then it's really good to use the week numbers.
Then if you have 24/7 phone duty at work now and then the weeks numbers is good to planning your life with.
"Ketchup has near biblical status" 🤣
Love it! 😂
However, ketchup on rice is a crime.
Yeah, I don't know anyone who puts ketchup on rice. I have eaten Korv stroganoff with macaroni and ketchup many times, but when I eat korv stroganoff and rice I don't put ketchup on that.
@@Jiiimbooh I did, sometimes when I was young. It's great, but only in really small amounts. Ketchup has nothing like biblical status though. It's rather the most low key and low status of all sauces, condiments, or spices (after salt).
Well the week numbers are also for how and when u can park in certain areas. Like datum parkering and odd/even week parking.
In tourism weeks are the key. This is how we thought of weeks in the swedish mountains.
W.51-52,53 Christmas
W.1 New year
W.2-6 Danish invasion
W.7 Göteborgare High energy and fun
W.8 Skåningar Bad skiers but relaxed and Fun
w.9 Stockholmare Lots of complaints and no patience with anything. (worst week all winter, we normaly had a big party to celebrate that the week was over.)
W.10 Norrlänningar Stayed in Norrland not much to see.
W.11-12 Nice wether great skiing, old people or kids bellow the age of 7.
W.13-16 Easter depending on year. Nice weather terrible skiing.
W.17-18 extremly bad skiing so people got drunk instead.
During summer we had all weeks figured out to. Stockholmsveckan v29, Politikerveckan, Medeltidsveckan v32 osv. Sept to mid dec I never cared about weeks then I had my time off.
hahaha I feel like I've learned so much from this Christmas, and now I know exactly when I should be visiting the mountains and when I should be staying out of the way! week 7 sounds a lot more fun that week 9 for example haha
The week numbers are used in many ways. I work at a large IT company, and we always referr our planning ahead as to week numbers. Also in private life, it is very common that you mention the weeek number for an event.
interesting!
Ketchup on pasta is fantastic!
instead of a sauce or as well as though?😳😉
@@JustaBritAbroad always 😂
Curry ketchup is actually real good much meter than regular ketchup but i hardly ever use it on other stuff than sausges
Most use weeks in work planning because is hard to tell how namy work days it is between Friday 17/9 until Friday 3/12 but easy to tell number of work days it is between w39 day5 and w48 day 5.
Privately however the traditional dates is preferred, and the only time its of interest in which week is to relate to work planning.
Ketchup är ju så bra!
Desperat mat om jag har spagetti och smält ost samt ketchup för smak och färg!
haha på riktig? i så fall skulle jag söka efter pesto😆
Ugh, I agree…! Ketchup has no business being a main ingredient in a bolognese like many ppl think!
UK is on spot 4 in ketchup consumption in the world. The list is
1 Canada
2 Finland
3 Sweden
4 United Kingdom
5 Norway
6 Austria
7 USA
I agree that we all drown Spsgettti I Ketchup as we learned to do it at our free school lunches to improve taste.
My Geordie friends in Newcastle and Frieda in Guildford eat much more French fries/chips and always with ketchup.
Korv Stroganoff sauce isn't brown. It's tomato and onion sauce. Some also put mustard in it.
Numbering the weeks is usually used at work, segmenting the year. Now it’s week 38 (actually it’s week 138, 1 is the year 2021). When the boss speaks he say “the job needs to be finalised on Thursday week 42 and in week 44 we all go on a business trip”. That leaves us with 3 weeks of working days and the last 3 days to wrap up the work. But if you say the work has to be finalised 21 October it’s not as easy understanding how many days you have to finish of the work and if it’s in the beginning or the end of a week. Topping the cake every one knows that you usually have days of at school week 7, 44 and also the summer 24-34 isch..and the winter 52-01. …I guess it’s what method you are used to.
I've never heard of the numbers being assigned a year in this way too Claes, how interesting. thanks for sharing!
Fun fact: week numbers in the EU follow a different standard than the US (of course). The EU starts the first complete week of the year as week 1, but in the US the partial starting week is week 1.
oh really? cool, thanks for sharing!
For the week thing it is used i varies areas. For example at my place you are not allowed to park there on Tuesdays between 9.00-12.00 on uneven week numbers. Becasue at that time there will be a cleaner there to clean the streets. I also used the week numbers at my old job. I worked at a warehouse. We used 37-1 for example. That means the package are to leave week 37 and day one which is Monday. We also used it to look back to the year before to see how much we were sending out on that week so we know how many employees we need for that date.
About the cameras. They are there at specific areas for the cars to slow down. There might be a dangerous crossing or turn. Beacuse we can only fine the person driving we can't measure the speed between the cameras because you can't prove it is that person who is driving all the time. We have the technology in the cameras but it is not in use.
that's a good point actually Linus, there's surely a distinction based on the work you do!
Actually, week numbers is an ISO standard and used all over Europe and in large parts of Asia. In fact, the UK is the odd one out in Europe that doesn't use week numbers. Besides all the Nordic countries, they are also used in Germany, Switzerland, the Netherlands, France, Belgium and so on...
The week numbering is used within businesses where weekly planning can be just as important as monthly planning, so it's true that for individuals, the only time they encounter week numbers is when they plan for their vacation but for a business it's used it all the time for planning of projects, budget, and other things.
interesting to hear how companies use the weeks Joacim! thanks for sharing :)
Thanks Greg for yet another interesting video. FYI, snus was first documented in this country 1637 and tobacco was commonly farmed here in the 1700:eds. However, snus as we see it today was developed during the early 1800:eds and one of the first (if not THE first) was Ljunglöfs no 1, also known as Ettan. Snus has a long history and tradition in this country and has been fought for in the EU parliament who wished to ban it.
Spot on about the week numbers. I have no idea what week it is except when it comes to summer holiday and you have to pick which weeks you want off work.
And it’s crazy that snus is illegal in the rest of the EU (except Finland I think). It’s great harm reduction compared to smoking. Lung cancer rates among Swedish men are lower than most countries (in the past mostly men used snus but more women are switching to snus too nowadays)
The Ketchup thing is ok also with other countries (as so for the wedding speech and car speed). The weeks are a very Swedish thing and also Snuse, but the snoos could be allined with the chewing of tabacoo done in America. The difference is that in Sweden the "tabacoo" is in a pouch where in America it is "free" in the mouth. To be honest, I still don't know if Swedes spit or not the snuse....tabacco is spit out.
Great video and thanks for your thoughts about Sweden well and i guess it can be well confusing when you are not used to our customs. But i think you are doing just fine.
Ketchup on french fries is not really a thing here though as we have so many dip sauces to choose between. But everything else, yes please.
Calling bs on the weeks thing! You totally forgot that most students up till Gymnasiet, parents with kids, and to a limited extent grandparents also care about week 44; the autumn break.
I´m deffenetly one of those who don´t know which week it is. Sometimes at work I get contacted by customers that wants to have a meeting at for example tuesday week 15 or a supplier contacts me to tell me that my order will be shipped at 15-3 reffering to day 3 in week 15. It´s so confusing and I always have to look it up to know which day it is. Using the date is much easier.
Regarding snus, I I can´t understand why someone wants to do it. And seeing someone smiling and see that brown mess....no thanks
glad its not just me that's got no idea at all which week we're in, Martin😅
Swede here, and the numbering of the weeks is so annoying. Someone will ask: "Can we have a meeting in week 38?" And everyone else of course ask "When is that? What week is it now?" A pretty big portion of the population love this numbering though, and know exactly which week a certain date is. I feel like we are a silent majority who don't like it, but haven't dared to speak against it. :D
The whole week 10 thing is also very normal for any businesses that have international dealings.
Hey, missed that part of "snus" having almost no cancer risk -- and snus doesn't damage your lungs. Of course it isn't healthy, it is still tobacco, but between a factor ten to a hundred less bad than cigarettes. (There is some risk for mouth cancer, but even that is less than for cigarettes.)
And yes, it is weird that so many people don't know they should put ketchup on pasta?
My friend ate ketchup on her knäckebrödsmacka at lunch in school. I thought she was crazy but I’m not a big fan of ketchup.
About knowing the week numbers - teachers, as myself, knows them well since the whole school system is built and planned from them. I don’t know the week numbers in the summer just because it’s my vacation. 😄
They have snus in Norway and Finland to! And snus isn't a new thing because of smoking regulation. It's because we think it's nicer!
As far as I know it is banned in Finland, although frequently smuggled in from Sweden in the north.
@@grymkaft It is allowed for personal use but it is not allowed to sell outside of Sweden (EU ban with an exemption for Sweden).
@@ulvsbane I meant banned to sell or import, so yeah
Yeah, no brown sauce in my korv stroganov. Never met anyone who does it like that. Tomato base all the way. I ate a lot of fish sticks with rice and ketchup as a kid though.
There's no brown sauce in korv & stroganoff >_> you could probably replace the ketchup with tomato puree, since it offends you so much.
Still remember from my childhood like it was yesterday, ate at one of my cousins... and he drenched boiled Cod in ketchup, totally grossed me out.
As a teacher, what week it is is essential knowledge... How would I remember when the schoolbreaks are otherwise?
good point Philippa! but that proves the point I guess, its most useful when it comes to planning in break and vacation times!
Also motorcycles cannot get a fine with a stationary camera, because there is no license plate on the front. Very strange!
really? interesting!
@@JustaBritAbroad Yes. All stationary speed cameras only take pictures from the front. I wonder why they don't fix this and change the laws so it is the same as in the rest of Europe.
Can confirm the one about the ketchup. Had some for supper. It was fried eggs and two left over sausages with ketchup on top. Everything is better with ketchup! Also; What?! I thought putting ketchup on pasta or spaghetti or whatever was a universal thing. But it’s not? I’m shocked 🤭
When I was in school I allways knew what week it was since tests and assignments would be given in terms of friday week 39 insted of 1 october. Then the teacher (or yourself in higher grades) would keep a list of which tests and assignments where due each week. Kindergardens are I think also highly ordered around the week numbers. There are probably other work places that also scedules by week number but I think in general its mostly familys and students who properly keep track of what week it is unless as you say the have summer vacation that week or are planing a skiing trip.
On the topic of average speed cameras we like to call them norwegian speed cameras since they have them everywhere there (or at leats more than regular ones). While they are not common here they do exist in some places but maybe its more around the big cities like gothenburg and stockholm.
ah good point about the use of week numbers in schools! I've noticed that too when it comes to my Swedish tests for example!
I have ketchup to rice, pasta, i basically have it to most things. It's not unhealthy to eat ketchup. I eat it almost every single day. I don't know which day or week it is. I love being a Swede. I have friends that uses snus. It's basically just tobacco. Like i said. I love being a Swede
One thing that is pretty weird are the plush toys young people graduating from high school put around their neck!
Nope, I may be Swedish but I use ketchup very seldom on top of my food.
If you crave nicotine, the good thing about "Snus" is that you don't bother your surrounding with any smoke. Furthermore it is way less detrimental to your health than smoking.
I'm a Swede living in England. I do all except ketchup one I don't overdue the ketchup I like it but dont overdo it so I've lost that trait.
Ketchup and Lingon goes whit everything!
You are getting Moore popular...you deserve Moore subs. About the ketchup on everything. I know Swedish that you use Even om pancakes... 🙂 Men jag har inte det på köttfärssås...bara vuxenketchup..dvs sweetchilisås. 😎
Why would I know which week my birthday is on? It wouldn’t be the same week each year.
In the Philippines, we put banana ketchup in our pasta 😂
banana ketchup?! that's a new one on me😅 I've been to the Philippines once before, but never got to experience that!
Love banana ketchup.
@@lindatisue733 same!
@@JustaBritAbroad doesn’t taste like bananas at all and it is also red 😄 it is sweeter than normal tomato ketchup, i love it on everything.
Gormet swede here who havent eaten nor had ketchup at home for years and years.
(oh yes forgot, I do like banana curry pineapple pizza)
Yummy, isn´t it? 😊
ooh interesting! is this the distinction then - gourmet versus non-gourmet Swede😅😉
The system of numbers the weeks are for business mostly. You should talk about the “jantelagen”, even about the fact that Swedish people think they are American.
There are some professions who knows the numbers of the week and one of them is the teachers.... I know because I am teacher who have very poorly knowledge of the week unless I have a calendar. But are our bosses, the principal an probably their bosses talks in weeks number when we talks about whats is happening and when. And if you want to know which food the school cafeteria is serving this day you need to know/look up the week number.
Actually we usually have Toastmasters at weddings and if You want to make a speach You notify them in advance. And ofc I know what week it is, it's week 37, I live by that system.
good point!
@@JustaBritAbroad week 40 now...
korv Stroganoff" have no ketchup, but tomato pate..
Weeks are used for appointments too. "Which week suits you? Tuesday of week xx, OK?"
From what I've heard, the chewing tobacco in the US is similar to snus, though not as common - this is often brought up by Americans if Swedes try to talk about the uniqueness of snus
It's not the same. Chewing tobacco is whole tobacco leaves rolled together and choppet up in smaller pieces. Snus is very fine chopped tobacco, or maybe you could even say grinded.
Sweden is actually the only country in the EU where it is legal to sell snus. We have to apply for a exception from EUs rules to be able to sell. That’s probably the reason for other people to know about it. If it were level to sell to other countries we would probably export a lot of it.
National Ketchup Day? Yes indeed - there should be one. And the week number thing is now Swedish - it's an international standard (ISO 8601, and BS ISO 8601-1:2019 in the UK), but many countries have opted to not pay too much attention to the week number thing, or use a different basis for calculating the week number (looking at you, USA).
Only people who work in schools or go to school knows what week number it is.
As someone who doesn't like ketchup at all I'm wondering how I'm gonna avoid it there now 😅
Per eats pasta with vegetarian meatballs, peanuts, and ketchup. He loves it. He's not a fan a mayo and uses ketchup for everything when it comes to condiments.
En grej Sverige har är : Sveriges namnsdagar sorterad efter datum. Den nuvarande namnlängden har funnits sedan 2001, och innehåller sedan dess både ennamns- och tvånamnsdagar. Totalt listas 616 namn, varav 300 är kvinnonamn och 316 är mansnamn.
jaså? tack för att du delade!
You should ask the toastmaster!
Speed cameras are put up around road crossings and such to remind the driver to slow down rather than torturing people that already pay tax.
Ketchup on fried eggs 🤤🤤🤤
Det är så intressant att höra hur du upplever oss svenskar 🙂👍
Jag bodde i nuneaton i 3 år och jag kände att det var ganska oroväckande hur farligt det var i trafiken i uk, men jag har värkligen trivts i englan men borta bra men hemma bäst 🤘😎
I have never ketchup on lasagne or strogranoff 😅
You MUST have ketchup on lasagna!!! Loads of bechamel inside and ketchup on top! Not totally covering it up, but LAGOM (best swedish word)!
brown sås in korvstroganoff ??Maybe in uk but not in Sweden look at all recept for stroganoff
We don’t have korvstroganoff in the UK!!
Shift workers that work morning shift odd week´s and afternoon shift on even week´s tend to know what week it is :)
Haha ketchup i can't relate to that even if im Swedish 🤣. I'm not a big fan of it. I only use it on 1 occasion and that's on stuvade makaroner. Don't like it otherwise. Btw korvstroganoff is a Swedish variation of beef stroganoff originally from East Europe.
you aren't Maria?! interesting!! and good point out korvstroganoff being the Swedish version of beef stroganoff. we have that in England too and its yum!!
@@JustaBritAbroad ketchup is a big no no for me with stew macaronie but I confess I like it
with köttbullar o bara kokta makaroner .
I love stuvade makaroner med köttbullar ( stew macaronies with meatballs.)
Speed is always tracked between cameras. If a section measures too high avg speeds over time the cameras are turned on to catch the sinners.
The UK is the forth highest per capita consumer of ketchup after Canada (3.1kg), Finland (3 kg) and Sweden (2.7 kg). In the UK they eat 2.4 kg per capita, so I think it's a question of where in the country you are.
I don't like ketchup, so I agree that it's shocking how often Swedes use ketchup, but I hardly ever see people use ketchup (in Stockholm) nowadays except for on Bolognese pasta (which seems to be a holdout from when they where kids). Back when I was a kid in the 70s and 80s people did use ketchup on almost everything.
interesting, I didn't know how the hierarchy worked in ketchup consumers. thanks for sharing!