You are the best among current Alims, I watch all your lectures here in USA. You are a very reasonable and good speaker who really represent realities and the goodness of our Religion of Peace. Please train more scholars like you from the newer generation. Also you should visit USA and CANADA, YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF YOUR Qadardaans here.
He talks so lovely, rationally and on the basis of curios evidence grounds , have been adoring nfp's work since I was in school, am 17 now and more I grow , the more I come to love people like paracha sir , Syed muzzamil, shezad bringing in political awareness, rationality and sense .
As usual an Honest Indepth Podcast, can't stop watching once you start, anyone wanting to understand Pakistan & how Pakistainis understand & view India must watch this channel. Never a dull moment , constant probing by this wonderful host helps keep the conversation going .
NFP narrates it as it is. His honesty and bluntness is unparalleled. The best thing abt the episode as a whole is that both shehzad and nfp are pulling no punches here. Much needed and very timely.
Boss this guy is so anti PTI thats fine but sarcastic jokes and remarks he uses for them is below belt, but that’s fine what els u can expect from a noon league supporter
Super Impressive talk by Nadeem Paracha. This intellectual should talk regularly and share his wonderful thoughts with us on a regular basis. Salute to you, Nadeem Paracha Sahib. I don’t miss any of your talk on any channel and do not miss reading your articles too. You are brilliant brilliant brilliant!!! 🙏🏼❤️👍
Shahzad a rare criticism of Bhutto and PPP I must applaud you for your honesty When Sindhis criticize Sindhi leaders first and muhajir criticize muhajir leaders then we can hope for a meaningful dialogue
i’ve been watching this podcast, still an hour to go but just pausing the video to thank you for bringing him again, i can safely say this is by far the most thought provoking podcast i’ve watched after a long time, so thank you. keep going man!
Bro, I am watching this a year late and I enjoyed every second of the 3 hour podcast! I love how your old podcasts are so relevant even years later. May Allah give you more success, and money and wealth and keep you safe from evil. Ameen.
It is good but felt repetitive. If yiu have lived in karachi, you know pppp winning is not a surprise. They played it smart. A few seats here and there, itna tu chalta hai. That's true and that's what they have discussed for 2 hours.
@@ThePakistanExperience I am from Mumbai. Been a pleasure listening to your podcasts. Looks like Pakistans politicians could be reasonable ppl..... if only the establishment and clergy could give them time and space.
this man has balls, who can speak truth which people doesn't used to listen. In India, we don't have people who can speak truth against public opinion. Respect for him.
Really? Never heard of Rana Ayyub? Ravish Kumar? Ajit Anjum? Ashok wankhede? Aruf khannum? Rohini singh... U may want to start there and I can tell more. And yes Paracha saab has balls.
Didn't realize this was 3 hours long. 1 hour into it and I can't believe how much misinformation is prevalent in our society. Great work, Shahzad! Please keep these coming.
I was surprised that everyone saw Murtaza Wahab on streets of Karachi himself and his efforts during floods in clearing roads for public, despite all this people are reluctant to admit that PPP has won majority of seats in local bodies election of Khi. Superbly explained by NFP. Shehzad & TPE team thanks for this and many such podcasts....
Murtaza Wahab is no doubt good candidate for mayor position, but he was deliberately put forward by PPP after YEARS of injustice & corruption with Karachi. I would hope that PPP Leadership finally realized their issues, but given the sustained mistrust and antics around local body elections, that doesn't seem to be the case. After 2-3 years of face-saving in Karachi, they still resorted to playing dirty games when JI & PTI started gaining traction in Karachi.
Karachi is an ever evolving work in progress. Its divided mandate caused it fragmentation. Now its mandate is clearly defined. Local bodies, Sindh government and Federal government is aligned. Karachi will do a lot better now. The poor man's Dubai. Fortunes change in Karachi.
I used to love NFP. His articles in Dawn back in the day helped me in understanding things a lot. However, looks like he has frozen his thoughts in a bubble. The world is changing and is changing very fast. And for those with a basic understanding of calculus, the rate of change on out planet is much higher than the rate of change of our country. We are not changing and we don't have much time left in our hands either. Human misery at an astronomical scale awaits us and our intellectual class is out of their depths. I don't know what's gonna happen but status quo is not the answer. The thing that hurt me the most is there is no escape for hundreds of millions of us. Though I was able to escape!
Lots of respect for NFP. Two points of worry though: 1. “Feudalism in Sindh has ended” 2. “PPP is NOT fundamentally feudal” It’s people like NFP on whose shoulders falls the responsibility to fix the biggest problem that Sindh faces today but he is bending over back to protect feudalism.
@19:10 he dodged the question. You're right many of the muhajreen are not urdu speaker nor identify themselves as one. My family migrated from Pune in '47 and they still to date communicate in Gujrati. My daddi used to read all her books in Gujrati (she passed away last year).
I am from Maharashtra and a frequent visitor to Pune. Would love to know where they stayed in Pune. Also, now Pune is in Maharashtra so Gujarati has lost its space from Pune. So has Marathi from Gujarat. They were a part of Bombay state earlier. Now two separate ones.
My elder brother was fond of an American magazine called Mad. I remember going through an episode by Don Martin(perhaps).A middle aged is busy reading his newspaper and comes his teenaged daughter and she seeks his permission to go for a party and he offhandedly gives his accent.And then he stops reading his news and starts reminiscing about the days when he was a teenager and used to go for the parties and he recalls what he and his male friends used to do to the girls and he bangs his dining table with his fists and shouts a big NO to his surprised daughter.Isn’t it typical Asian?Moral? We have to learn to live in a global village and know we are the same.Proud of the contents of your interviews.
Everyone has their biases I do to. But I enjoy the no BS conversation. Our mainstream media is too limited and cinematic to ever focus on real conversations.
Such an interesting discussion. Really respect Mr. Paracha for his observation and analysis. However, his book should be accessible to all rather than catering to the elites. How will you educate the masses if your literature is not available at economical rates?
almost at 1:57:00, lots of criticism for analysts who are calling the elections rigged, no detailed explanation as to why and how PPP's won. The conversation starts well, some potentially strong points are raised but within minutes it turns into a rant. Let's spend more time on how exactly is that they manage to win, people will inevitably judge who is right and wrong. I think TPE can benefit from having a better structure to the interviews, if you take the rants and anecdotes out, this shouldn't be more than an hour, if that. Regardless, TPE is doing a good job in having these talks. Really appreciate it.
The critique of Non-Karachi media's generalized and uninformed coverage of Karachi's elections was fair but it should have been followed by an honest discission of the elections themselves. I felt that many important points were missed such as gerrymandering of the constituencies. How does District Central have 46,000 voters per UC while Malir, west and Kemari have less than 30,000 voters per UC? Are these not undemocratic tactics?
Nfp is among the most underrated intellectuals in Pakistan people who stand with rationality are very few and rare in our beloved country Nfp is one of them sane voices.
It's amazing that Nadeem thinks urdu speakers are insecure and biased without mentioning the quota system, systematic sidelining of urdu speaking community by Sindhis, and intentional destruction of Karachi by the PPP
Read about the first time word Quota was even uttered here. It was done by Liaqat Ali Khan and the specific quota applied to Karachi to secure jobs for immigrants'. It can well be regarded as insecurity. Quota implemented by Bhutto was almost two decades later and if had been implemented on merit wouldn't have been bad at all. It's the inherent corruption within the system that makes it the bad thing.
Do you remember liaquats quota system in favor of muhajirs? That was kosher? Muhajirs are sidelined? Lol give me a break. They dominate in Karachi in private jobs and business even politics. Even in Hyderabad. Who is murtaza wahab, shehla raza, sheery rehma, taj haider, najmi alam, raza rabbani, qadir patel? All muhajirs. And you have the balls to say muhajirs are sidelined? Until recantly your muhajir altaf ruled this city with iron fist. Had this city by the balls. Why are you so dumb and biased against sindhis? What have sindhis done to you to deserve so much hate from you people? Except for allowing you people to settle in their land? Like should they just now perish into thin air? Stop acting like yahoodis. You should be ashamed of your racism. I seriously question your parents and their upbringing of yours. You are a sad perosn.
@@historychannel6469 Altaf may go to hell as far as I'm concerned and I've nothing against Sindhis, you're my brother. My problem is with the unfair treatment of Urdu speakers in Sindh govt jobs. Muhajirs make it big in private jobs bcuz there's no sifarish there and businesses hire the best talent. Govt jobs is a different story, no merit. I have no issues with Sindhis progressing on merit. Again, I consider common Sindhis my brothers. I'm against the systematic discrimination at the govt. level
@@JawadKhan again you are extremely wrong. You are fed wrong information. Muhajirs get 40 pc quota in sindh govt jobs. Thats more than their population share. Even today sindhs chief secretary is a muhajir. Spsc's chairman is a muhajir. Countless others. Even in federal govt they get a good 11 or 12 pc quota, which is more than enough. Now come to private jobs, how many sindhis you see in them? You see no discrimination there? According to you there are no educated sindhis who can land a private job in karachi? But do yo see them? No. Because muhajirs deliberately dont employ sindhis. But you guys cry foul even when you get 40 pc quota of sindh govt jobs. Muhajirs doninate even in kmc, kda, water board, kpt. What are you guys even talking about? You guys have the best in Pakistan after punjabis. But still accuse sindhis of racism. Should sindhis just die and kill themselves because muhajirs are living in sindh now? Cant you people live peacefully and tone down yout racism against sindhis? Just because a terrorist and target killer party like mqm is not allowed to spread terrorism daily in karachi, suddenly muhajirs are oppressed? You guys completely ignore all the good things which have happened to muhajirs in karachi? Just because some muhajir mqm target killers are put in jail?
@@razaalee9477 a quota system wasn’t required at that time in the way it is used today and nor would there have been any insecurity as immigrants were significantly more educated, it may have been done to attract skilled labour to Pakistan however you cannot use this argument to say that Urdu speaking immigrants haven’t faced severe systemic bias and prejudice based on their ethnicity.
Sir g iam a proud Urdu speaking and well educated from my forefathers my nana and nani was graduate's from Aligarh university ALHUMDULILAH iam working for a American Multinational corporation from past 10 years ALHUMDULILAH just wanted to know ke jub urdu speaking jo graduate's they at the time of partition and came to PAKISTAN so unhey kitne graduates let's keep it educated Sindhi and punjabi and pathans mile PAKISTAN me in 1947 you know what root's iam talking about here why we urdu speaking got something in our DNA is difference in education form there roots and humne tou yaha jo kamaya wo bhi inhi me bat dia or aj bhi bat rahein hn and secondly since PAKISTAN came into being aj bhi Hume government jobs nhi milti Sindhi anghota Chapo ko government jobs mili WI hn in majority 60% of educated Urdu speakings have already migrated from Pakistan to western countries
Mr. Nadeem Paracha Sahib's solution to the Ahmadi question is very simplistic. Ahmadis are not allowed to vote in Pahistan unless they declare themselves non muslims first. It can never happen as Ahmadis profess themselves muslims and their sect is not confined to Pakistan only. To advise them to vote as non muslims in Pakistan, and then profess themselves muslims globally is not possible.
I have watched the previous part of 3.5 hrs as well, amazing talk no doubt..but without touching the subject of quota system the political history of Karachi is incomplete..its one of the major rootcause behind the emergence of MQM, more so than the arrivals of Pushtoons during Ayub and Afghan war periods.
Syed Yousaf Raza gilani, Member Majlis e shora of Zia, Nazim Multan, supporter of Refrendum , Minister of Zia Government, then entered PPP and become PM of Pakistan but nobody said he was Marshal Law B Team.
12:37 Against all racism that does exist in Karachi but NFP conveniently missed out on a big factor how badly Urdu speaking were treated for years after migration. If there is resentment against Sindhis and Punjabis then you have to also look at the racism that Urdu speaking people have faced for decades.
@@ThePakistanExperience Ruling section of a community is always the minority part of it. Majority of Urdu speaking struggled to get jobs and even renting or buying a house was difficult. I know these instances from personal experiences of my relatives and friends. Also, killings on 90s definitely intensified the sentiment. It’s unfortunate that politically religion and ethnicities are still used to gain power but it truly creates rift and unneeded divide.
There was a lot of racism against the mohajirs at least until about 30 or so years ago. Just because there were some elites in power that did nothing for the common people except the non mohajirs took out their resentment on them. I understand the lack of empathy and hatred towards the mohajirs as they probably did come to the new land thinking they will make it just like the home they had left and maybe ticked off a lot of locals, but it’s about time we move on. I find you Shehzad as a fair and open person but I can sense that you don’t have the same feelings for the mohajirs. I don’t feel like Pakistan is my country or that I belong there. I’m glad I’m out and other than my dad’s grave nothing ever attracts me back.
@@ThePakistanExperience Defintiely post partition experience mate. Racism is faced by almost all factions in Karachi in some form or the other but the younger generation has moved away from it, not entirely but surely.
i was inquisitive about Ahmadi question , he explained it very well, but again he did not talk about the foreign pressure on this issue , bcz once mubashir Hassan said in his interview with najam sethi that there was a lot of foreign pressure on ZAB, but yes I will say he is Guru
Karachi beats for Altaf Hussain !!! Altaf Hussain is the first political leader of Pakistan who started politics of non-electables ! Even if Altaf Hussain gives ticket to a light pole that pole will win ! This is the power of Altaf Hussain !!! The right man ALTAF HUSSAIN 🇵🇰❤️✊🏻
As salam walikum watching it in 2024 in retrospect the analysis on this podcast got redundant in the general elections you should do a second podcast based on this one 😊
You are the best among current Alims, I watch all your lectures here in USA. You are a very reasonable and good speaker who really represent realities and the goodness of our Religion of Peace. Please train more scholars like you from the newer generation. Also you should visit USA and CANADA, YOU HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF YOUR Qadardaans here.
He talks so lovely, rationally and on the basis of curios evidence grounds , have been adoring nfp's work since I was in school, am 17 now and more I grow , the more I come to love people like paracha sir , Syed muzzamil, shezad bringing in political awareness, rationality and sense .
As usual an Honest Indepth Podcast, can't stop watching once you start, anyone wanting to understand Pakistan & how Pakistainis understand & view India must watch this channel. Never a dull moment , constant probing by this wonderful host helps keep the conversation going .
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NFP narrates it as it is. His honesty and bluntness is unparalleled. The best thing abt the episode as a whole is that both shehzad and nfp are pulling no punches here. Much needed and very timely.
He is a treat to watch, listening for the 3rd time. Way to go, NFP!
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As a JI supporter I can disagree on alot of things about NFP ... but it was a nice podcast. Hats Off to both of you.
Would you list the things you disagree with? And am i wrong to assume that NFP presented a twisted version of history at some places?
Boss this guy is so anti PTI thats fine but sarcastic jokes and remarks he uses for them is below belt, but that’s fine what els u can expect from a noon league supporter
Yahan PTI ki baat horahi hai? Tum log itne barey ghaddhey Q hai@@ehtishamqadir8572
What a treasure of knowledge. Please do come often on screen NFP. Love listening you whole day. Love from larkana.
It is intriguing. It is making me more addicted and captivated to The Pakistan Experience.
I am shocked as a Karachite i know that he’s speaking facts but it takes great courage to defend your perspective out in public.
Super Impressive talk by Nadeem Paracha. This intellectual should talk regularly and share his wonderful thoughts with us on a regular basis. Salute to you, Nadeem Paracha Sahib. I don’t miss any of your talk on any channel and do not miss reading your articles too. You are brilliant brilliant brilliant!!! 🙏🏼❤️👍
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Shahzad a rare criticism of Bhutto and PPP I must applaud you for your honesty
When Sindhis criticize Sindhi leaders first and muhajir criticize muhajir leaders then we can hope for a meaningful dialogue
NFP is an authority on the issues and politics of Karachi. 👍
zindabad The Pakistan Experience and Nadeem Farooq Paracha. really enlightening talk.
i’ve been watching this podcast, still an hour to go but just pausing the video to thank you for bringing him again, i can safely say this is by far the most thought provoking podcast i’ve watched after a long time, so thank you. keep going man!
NFP is my favourite , first celebrity who followed me at Twitter and that was definitely a privilege.
Bro, I am watching this a year late and I enjoyed every second of the 3 hour podcast! I love how your old podcasts are so relevant even years later. May Allah give you more success, and money and wealth and keep you safe from evil. Ameen.
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So enlightening. I could listen to NFP entire day
Brilliant. Brilliant. Brilliant. 😍😍😍
Thank you so much for bringing NFP again!
I appreciate NFP for his objective analysis.
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Saw the notification, hit the like button without watching. Will watch at night in peace and focus.
آپکی اور آپ کے مہمان کی سچائی اور جرات کو واقعی سلام پیش کرتا ہوں!
اللہ آپ کو ہمیشہ استقامت عطاء فرمائے۔
جزاک اللہ خیرا۔سبحان اللہ۔
I haven't watched it yet, but I super happy that it's 3 hours long. 🥰
It is good but felt repetitive. If yiu have lived in karachi, you know pppp winning is not a surprise. They played it smart. A few seats here and there, itna tu chalta hai. That's true and that's what they have discussed for 2 hours.
Can you please upload on podcast quickly? Watching on youtube with ads every 5min gets me angrier than altaf bhai on a Sunday morning.
NFP & Shahzad Ghias, A Deadly Duo!!! Kudos TPE
2 Punjabis giving there opinion on karachi
@@thebaaz1 they are Karachiites. Mind it that Karachi isn't owned and known by Urdu speakers only.
ماشاء اللہ بہت خوب جناب
Lighting a cigarette on a podcast ... very lit 😊 Had seen such a scene in cricket matches of the 80's and 90's at Sharjah
Smokers corner. Literally.
@@ThePakistanExperience I am from Mumbai. Been a pleasure listening to your podcasts. Looks like Pakistans politicians could be reasonable ppl..... if only the establishment and clergy could give them time and space.
this man has balls, who can speak truth which people doesn't used to listen. In India, we don't have people who can speak truth against public opinion. Respect for him.
Really? Never heard of Rana Ayyub? Ravish Kumar? Ajit Anjum? Ashok wankhede? Aruf khannum? Rohini singh...
U may want to start there and I can tell more. And yes Paracha saab has balls.
@@saurabhsrivastava522rana ayuub arfa😂😂😂
Sindh contribution for Pakistan movement needs to be discussed. Please discuss G.M Syed role. People should know his vision, he was right.
Very decent person I ever listened..!!
Didn't realize this was 3 hours long. 1 hour into it and I can't believe how much misinformation is prevalent in our society. Great work, Shahzad! Please keep these coming.
Malik saab Punjabis have been eating Pakistan since beginning , what more information do you need ? Aren't you ashamed ?
What misinformation you have noticed..?
@@daniyalbbd5281 Khud daikh lou video
I was surprised that everyone saw Murtaza Wahab on streets of Karachi himself and his efforts during floods in clearing roads for public, despite all this people are reluctant to admit that PPP has won majority of seats in local bodies election of Khi. Superbly explained by NFP. Shehzad & TPE team thanks for this and many such podcasts....
Murtaza Wahab is no doubt good candidate for mayor position, but he was deliberately put forward by PPP after YEARS of injustice & corruption with Karachi.
I would hope that PPP Leadership finally realized their issues, but given the sustained mistrust and antics around local body elections, that doesn't seem to be the case.
After 2-3 years of face-saving in Karachi, they still resorted to playing dirty games when JI & PTI started gaining traction in Karachi.
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A much needed return, truly. 🙏💖
Karachi is an ever evolving work in progress. Its divided mandate caused it fragmentation.
Now its mandate is clearly defined. Local bodies, Sindh government and Federal government is aligned.
Karachi will do a lot better now. The poor man's Dubai. Fortunes change in Karachi.
Simply brilliant !!!🎉🎉🎉❤
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Thanks Internet our eyes are opening and that alone is enough to bring revolution in Pakistan
I love Imran khan Because I know him and have met him many a times. So please grow up now and evolve. Thanks 🙏
Nadeem Farooq Piracha is a Genius .
Thanks for bringing Mr. Paracha again.
It's a very good podcast.
Thanks for sharing real history which is non-existent in mainstream.
I used to love NFP. His articles in Dawn back in the day helped me in understanding things a lot. However, looks like he has frozen his thoughts in a bubble.
The world is changing and is changing very fast. And for those with a basic understanding of calculus, the rate of change on out planet is much higher than the rate of change of our country.
We are not changing and we don't have much time left in our hands either. Human misery at an astronomical scale awaits us and our intellectual class is out of their depths.
I don't know what's gonna happen but status quo is not the answer. The thing that hurt me the most is there is no escape for hundreds of millions of us. Though I was able to escape!
Ye kaisi bhand maari hai 😂😂😂
This podcast is a beacon of truth, restoring the forgotten pages of history and empowering listeners with knowledge. We need more podcasts like this.
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I really like how the host is not interrupting him plus very nice i m a big fan shehzad, One day you will be doing podcast with me InshAllah
I am from Peshawar and the Guest is continuously saying "PTI kam karney waley party nahi" but they did an amazing job in KP.
Kya kam kiya aik DNA centre to bana nahi sakay apney dor mein
Lol
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Lots of respect for NFP. Two points of worry though:
1. “Feudalism in Sindh has ended”
2. “PPP is NOT fundamentally feudal”
It’s people like NFP on whose shoulders falls the responsibility to fix the biggest problem that Sindh faces today but he is bending over back to protect feudalism.
@19:10 he dodged the question. You're right many of the muhajreen are not urdu speaker nor identify themselves as one. My family migrated from Pune in '47 and they still to date communicate in Gujrati. My daddi used to read all her books in Gujrati (she passed away last year).
I am from Maharashtra and a frequent visitor to Pune. Would love to know where they stayed in Pune. Also, now Pune is in Maharashtra so Gujarati has lost its space from Pune. So has Marathi from Gujarat. They were a part of Bombay state earlier. Now two separate ones.
So thankful for bit pause now we can see missed episodes🎉
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Great Sir Nadeem Paracha sahab
great open aap ko bahut jyada hi mahan samajhta he
NFPis amazingly clear-headed.
Well-done 👍👍
My elder brother was fond of an American magazine called Mad. I remember going through an episode by Don Martin(perhaps).A middle aged is busy reading his newspaper and comes his teenaged daughter and she seeks his permission to go for a party and he offhandedly gives his accent.And then he stops reading his news and starts reminiscing about the days when he was a teenager and used to go for the parties and he recalls what he and his male friends used to do to the girls and he bangs his dining table with his fists and shouts a big NO to his surprised daughter.Isn’t it typical Asian?Moral? We have to learn to live in a global village and know we are the same.Proud of the contents of your interviews.
Everyone has their biases I do to. But I enjoy the no BS conversation. Our mainstream media is too limited and cinematic to ever focus on real conversations.
Such an interesting discussion. Really respect Mr. Paracha for his observation and analysis. However, his book should be accessible to all rather than catering to the elites. How will you educate the masses if your literature is not available at economical rates?
Nadeem paracha is genuine philosopher historians thinker.. Great applause
Thank You Shehzad!
Nadeem Farooq Piracha Great 😊
Absolutely loved the episode! Keep exploring NFP for more ❤️
Well said sur
almost at 1:57:00, lots of criticism for analysts who are calling the elections rigged, no detailed explanation as to why and how PPP's won. The conversation starts well, some potentially strong points are raised but within minutes it turns into a rant. Let's spend more time on how exactly is that they manage to win, people will inevitably judge who is right and wrong. I think TPE can benefit from having a better structure to the interviews, if you take the rants and anecdotes out, this shouldn't be more than an hour, if that. Regardless, TPE is doing a good job in having these talks. Really appreciate it.
The critique of Non-Karachi media's generalized and uninformed coverage of Karachi's elections was fair but it should have been followed by an honest discission of the elections themselves. I felt that many important points were missed such as gerrymandering of the constituencies. How does District Central have 46,000 voters per UC while Malir, west and Kemari have less than 30,000 voters per UC? Are these not undemocratic tactics?
MAA SHAA ALLAH G
Invite people from Balochistan as well.
Long awaited guest TPE
Nfp is among the most underrated intellectuals in Pakistan people who stand with rationality are very few and rare in our beloved country Nfp is one of them sane voices.
Listening to this while traveling through sindh to my home city near naudero. GREAT WATCH! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Such a brilliant guy to listen to ❤
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It's amazing that Nadeem thinks urdu speakers are insecure and biased without mentioning the quota system, systematic sidelining of urdu speaking community by Sindhis, and intentional destruction of Karachi by the PPP
Read about the first time word Quota was even uttered here. It was done by Liaqat Ali Khan and the specific quota applied to Karachi to secure jobs for immigrants'. It can well be regarded as insecurity. Quota implemented by Bhutto was almost two decades later and if had been implemented on merit wouldn't have been bad at all. It's the inherent corruption within the system that makes it the bad thing.
Do you remember liaquats quota system in favor of muhajirs? That was kosher? Muhajirs are sidelined? Lol give me a break. They dominate in Karachi in private jobs and business even politics. Even in Hyderabad. Who is murtaza wahab, shehla raza, sheery rehma, taj haider, najmi alam, raza rabbani, qadir patel? All muhajirs. And you have the balls to say muhajirs are sidelined? Until recantly your muhajir altaf ruled this city with iron fist. Had this city by the balls. Why are you so dumb and biased against sindhis? What have sindhis done to you to deserve so much hate from you people? Except for allowing you people to settle in their land? Like should they just now perish into thin air? Stop acting like yahoodis. You should be ashamed of your racism. I seriously question your parents and their upbringing of yours. You are a sad perosn.
@@historychannel6469 Altaf may go to hell as far as I'm concerned and I've nothing against Sindhis, you're my brother. My problem is with the unfair treatment of Urdu speakers in Sindh govt jobs. Muhajirs make it big in private jobs bcuz there's no sifarish there and businesses hire the best talent. Govt jobs is a different story, no merit. I have no issues with Sindhis progressing on merit. Again, I consider common Sindhis my brothers. I'm against the systematic discrimination at the govt. level
@@JawadKhan again you are extremely wrong. You are fed wrong information. Muhajirs get 40 pc quota in sindh govt jobs. Thats more than their population share. Even today sindhs chief secretary is a muhajir. Spsc's chairman is a muhajir. Countless others. Even in federal govt they get a good 11 or 12 pc quota, which is more than enough. Now come to private jobs, how many sindhis you see in them? You see no discrimination there? According to you there are no educated sindhis who can land a private job in karachi? But do yo see them? No. Because muhajirs deliberately dont employ sindhis. But you guys cry foul even when you get 40 pc quota of sindh govt jobs. Muhajirs doninate even in kmc, kda, water board, kpt. What are you guys even talking about? You guys have the best in Pakistan after punjabis. But still accuse sindhis of racism. Should sindhis just die and kill themselves because muhajirs are living in sindh now? Cant you people live peacefully and tone down yout racism against sindhis? Just because a terrorist and target killer party like mqm is not allowed to spread terrorism daily in karachi, suddenly muhajirs are oppressed? You guys completely ignore all the good things which have happened to muhajirs in karachi? Just because some muhajir mqm target killers are put in jail?
@@razaalee9477 a quota system wasn’t required at that time in the way it is used today and nor would there have been any insecurity as immigrants were significantly more educated, it may have been done to attract skilled labour to Pakistan however you cannot use this argument to say that Urdu speaking immigrants haven’t faced severe systemic bias and prejudice based on their ethnicity.
Hi, Your vlog made my day.
been through only 4 minutes and i already love it
Great job Shahzad, love the content.
Sir g iam a proud Urdu speaking and well educated from my forefathers my nana and nani was graduate's from Aligarh university ALHUMDULILAH iam working for a American Multinational corporation from past 10 years ALHUMDULILAH just wanted to know ke jub urdu speaking jo graduate's they at the time of partition and came to PAKISTAN so unhey kitne graduates let's keep it educated Sindhi and punjabi and pathans mile PAKISTAN me in 1947 you know what root's iam talking about here why we urdu speaking got something in our DNA is difference in education form there roots and humne tou yaha jo kamaya wo bhi inhi me bat dia or aj bhi bat rahein hn and secondly since PAKISTAN came into being aj bhi Hume government jobs nhi milti Sindhi anghota Chapo ko government jobs mili WI hn in majority 60% of educated Urdu speakings have already migrated from Pakistan to western countries
Hav always enjoyed NFP perspectives. Though I don't fully agree ... but interesting analysis
Very engaging. Dawn smokers corner wale sahab jee. Aap ko Mera namaskar pl accept
May you stay strong and keep the resolve to have difficult conversations. I hope everyone associated with this podcast continues to stay brave.
Mr. Nadeem Paracha Sahib's solution to the Ahmadi question is very simplistic. Ahmadis are not allowed to vote in Pahistan unless they declare themselves non muslims first. It can never happen as Ahmadis profess themselves muslims and their sect is not confined to Pakistan only. To advise them to vote as non muslims in Pakistan, and then profess themselves muslims globally is not possible.
Rightly told by NFP that ZAB refused to outcast Ahmadis. My parents listen to his live speech on TV in Summer of 1974.
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Thank you asking my question Shehzad. I will check out Hussain Haqqani's work.
I have watched the previous part of 3.5 hrs as well, amazing talk no doubt..but without touching the subject of quota system the political history of Karachi is incomplete..its one of the major rootcause behind the emergence of MQM, more so than the arrivals of Pushtoons during Ayub and Afghan war periods.
Those who do not accept
Holy Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him as
The Last Prophet of Allah
Peace be upon him
excellent program !
PPP ki kisi performance pe baat nahi, koi corruption ka mention nahi. Only praise. Awesome investments by PPP in media.
Bakwas kr rhe ye
Sahi baat I totally agree....
Another gem 👍🏼👏🏻
Yaar NFP you proved you are a hardcore Bhutto worker.. you can see everyone’s corruption but Bhutto’s… shabash!! 👍👏
Syed Yousaf Raza gilani, Member Majlis e shora of Zia, Nazim Multan, supporter of Refrendum , Minister of Zia Government, then entered PPP and become PM of Pakistan but nobody said he was Marshal Law B Team.
Bhai main ne to ek baat pakri hui hai, suno sb, phir khud analyze karo. Positive negative dono ko dekho. Kisi k peeche ankhen band kr k na lag jao.
Bhai aap ka podcast bahut acha tha ,hame bhi kuch aapke taraf ke point of view janana jaruri tha so yes
👍👍👍Behtereen NFP
12:37 Against all racism that does exist in Karachi but NFP conveniently missed out on a big factor how badly Urdu speaking were treated for years after migration. If there is resentment against Sindhis and Punjabis then you have to also look at the racism that Urdu speaking people have faced for decades.
@@ThePakistanExperience Ruling section of a community is always the minority part of it. Majority of Urdu speaking struggled to get jobs and even renting or buying a house was difficult. I know these instances from personal experiences of my relatives and friends. Also, killings on 90s definitely intensified the sentiment.
It’s unfortunate that politically religion and ethnicities are still used to gain power but it truly creates rift and unneeded divide.
There was a lot of racism against the mohajirs at least until about 30 or so years ago. Just because there were some elites in power that did nothing for the common people except the non mohajirs took out their resentment on them. I understand the lack of empathy and hatred towards the mohajirs as they probably did come to the new land thinking they will make it just like the home they had left and maybe ticked off a lot of locals, but it’s about time we move on. I find you Shehzad as a fair and open person but I can sense that you don’t have the same feelings for the mohajirs. I don’t feel like Pakistan is my country or that I belong there. I’m glad I’m out and other than my dad’s grave nothing ever attracts me back.
@@ThePakistanExperience Defintiely post partition experience mate. Racism is faced by almost all factions in Karachi in some form or the other but the younger generation has moved away from it, not entirely but surely.
@@ThePakistanExperiencefor how long urdu speakers ruled pak ? Because ayub zulfiqar was not urdu speakers. Quta system. Zulfikar and Benazir speeches
Putting things into perspective. Brilliant podcast as usual.
i was inquisitive about Ahmadi question , he explained it very well, but again he did not talk about the foreign pressure on this issue , bcz once mubashir Hassan said in his interview with najam sethi that there was a lot of foreign pressure on ZAB,
but yes I will say he is Guru
Worth watching
Amazing interview
What. A. Conversation!!!
Superb analysis Nadeem Farooq Paracha sb👌
What a conversation 💯✨
Weldone Nadeem Farooq Sb 👍
I relate with shehzad when he was at loss about who to support as a progressive in Pakistan.
Great 👍 👌
the most feel good factor for me other than of course the podcast itself was that it was three hour long
excellent podcast,, dont ever change your style
As always it feels great while listening to NFP.. Thanks TPE for bringing him on the podcast again...
Waqai yaar! PTI is more of a content creator party than an on-ground working party
Karachi beats for Altaf Hussain !!! Altaf Hussain is the first political leader of Pakistan who started politics of non-electables ! Even if Altaf Hussain gives ticket to a light pole that pole will win ! This is the power of Altaf Hussain !!!
The right man ALTAF HUSSAIN 🇵🇰❤️✊🏻
As salam walikum watching it in 2024 in retrospect the analysis on this podcast got redundant in the general elections you should do a second podcast based on this one 😊