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We love the homie and all the judges and RAs for helping us keep up with janky interactions
They are the best!
I'm finally internet famous 😍😍😍😍
lol thanks for the shout out.
Of course! Thanks for the idea!
Well done!
Interesting: Never knew Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis actively flaunts 305.3, by letting your opponents play a land at the end of your turn.
Technically that's not playing a land, that's putting a land into play
@@chargingbadger867 oooof, like the difference between declaring an attack and the state of attacking igy
@@JokingThiefexactly otherwise green ramp spells that just grab you lands wouldn’t work. Or fetch lands
@@JokingThiefAlso just like "putting a card from the top of your library into your hand" is NOT the same as drawing card.
Im too tired for my brain to track all this lol
Come back when rested.
@keepingitcasualmtg nah can we just get a longer version of this short that's not so rushed and explained just a bit more
@@ShadowFist13I rewatched it after a short nights sleep lol. Here lemme break it down.
His first thought to suspend Dryad Arbor with Jhoira wasn't going to work because Jhoira says to exile a nonland card. Dryad Arbor being a land makes it an invalid card.
Then he went down a rabbit hole about the wording of Jhoira, it uses 'cast' instead of 'play' but thats because the rules for Suspend changed it to 'play' and Jhoira just keeps the old wording because again nonland card so doesn't really NEED an update.
Jhoira you can exile a MDFC that has a land on the back, you can play it on the land side due to the Suspend rules. Still have to follow the rules for lands being played only on your turn.
Dryad Arbor can't be 'cast' because its a land, Lands can't be 'cast'. So Dryad Arbor is 'played' and since it was 'played' and not 'cast' it can't gain haste from suspend. As suspend only gives creature spells haste. Dryad Arbor can still gain haste through other means though, it just can't get it from suspend.
Cheers
Another fun interaction is Dryad Arbor + Flash, which can let you play a land at instant speed!
😆😆 Dryad Arbor is such a weird card
This is a problem I've been thinking about but never really learned the answers to, so I'm glad to hear it!
Glad it helped!
Love Gray. He mentored me to my L1
He knows his stuff for sure
wow thats a crazy rule interact
It was an interesting dive into the rules
Rules are getting so damn convoluted!
Excellent video. Thank you
Thanks!
also, also, if it looses it's last time counter on your opponent's turn, you can't play it because there is a rule that says you can't play lands on your opponent's turn, even if something would otherwise allow you to.
If the rules of mtg weren't permissive then Etali, Primal Storm just got a lot worse.
It would change up a lot of cards
Actually love this
Glad you enjoyed!
Can you go further on the explanation for the backside land, because I thought that for all intents and purposes it only cares about the front side if it is in exile, like cascading
When looking for characteristics of a double faced card we look at the front face. But when making the choice to play something if the other side is something that you can play then you’re allowed to make that choice
Have you done a video on when you can and can't play mdfc lands off effects?
Does playing the land off suspend count as your land drop for the turn?
From reading the suspend rules, I noticed this weird section:
"702.62a: "... you may play it without paying its mana cost if able..."
I know that suspend forces you to cast the spell if able once it runs out of counters (the rules text enforces this by saying "if able" so you might need to Shivan Meteor your own creature), but if you aren't given a choice, why does that rule say "you may"? Wouldn't "...play it without paying it's mana cost if able..." work?
I believe it used to be forced, but I think in recent times they've changed it so that you don't have to play the suspended card if you choose to.
I thought when it comes off suspend the creature has haste also.
I assume if you have already played your land for turn, you can't play it even when it comes off suspend?
Shame we don't get this kind of jank in her commander colors
Can you suspend it even though it isnt a spell?
Suspend represents three abilities. If somehow a land card had suspend while in your hand, you couldn't use the first ability it represents - it only lets you exile it if the card could be cast from your hand. However, this doesn't prevent cards from otherwise gaining suspend when exiled by other means (such as the instant card "Suspend"), and the second and third abilities function as normal, provided there are one or more time counters on that card.
Goth mommy eldrazi deck
I like that yes, it won't have haste, but at the same time, it doesn't have summoning sickness so it does have haste without having haste
how do you even have double sided cards and keep the rule that cards have to stay impossible to tell apart while in the deck.
Sleeves or some packs from sets with double faced cards come with little place holder cards you can use
I hate jhoira she was the first deck a played against with a ghired precon. She with hold my disdain forever.
That's valid
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