@@markswishereatsstuff2500 I like to have anything that makes a line different (i.e. splice, shackle, other hardware) hanging down so I can spot different lines easily.
Benefit of gasket coil hitch is that it tends to stay locked up for longer. Your preferred method will come undone more easily when the coil is being passed (thrown!) around the boat. Agreed it hangs straight and looks neater for mainsheets hung on the end of the boom. You could also add a half twist to the bight as you pass it through the coil and then hang the coil on that bight. This is good for hanging halyards off a cleat on the mast.
If you hang the different coils in order (in the direction from your elbow to your hand) it won't foul even if you don't manually uncoil it before using it, which is a mess if the rope is really long. If the rope is too long you can pass the first coils on to your arm before continuing.
an english seaman showed me one where you make an x to sinch a loop for hanging when i was a teen but i lost how to do it but your way is fine and easier to remember; thanks
if it's longer and especially if it's braided not twisted, you really should figure 8 not round coils. You are adding twist with each round coil. when you understand wrap a longer line (i.e. a spare sheet or halyard) it will kink and foul.
Yes, I realise that and should hjave added this in. If you check the videos on coiling rope in my Stress-Free Sailing and Stress-Free Motorboating I have corrected this.
The gasket coil hitch is better because it locks the coil. Also, you should leave more on the end so that you can clove hitch it to a rail below and the rope hangs and dries. They should all be hung up, not thrown into lockers. Good to see clockwise coiling.
Are you saying that having viewed my video you did not have the knots under the belt or that the instructor was not impressed and so you watched the video and are now fully armed with all the knots. I'm confused. D
APSLDT.com shows how to coil without introducing twist. Maybe because it is a short length....Clean and pretty but will it feed smartly through a block? But I mostly surf and the only line I use is the leash.
Each time the rope goes over your hand to form a coil it should pass back in a different direction, little finger to thumb, thumb to little finger. That way its not being twisted as you have just done....
One large improvement to your method. That pre-spliced eye on your beginning end?? When you first lay it to begin the coil,,, make it longer than the coil is going to be. Allow it to hang a substantial,, for that size and weight rope,, 10 or 12 inches lower than the bottom of the loops. Because,,,, when the starting loop is shorter, if often drops through the coil, or can be pulled through the coil when you go to use it. That will cause a knot and a delay. If the starting loop is longer, it resists dropping through the coils and usually,,, not always, stays to the correct side so when you drop the coil for use,, it runs true. You need not do a pre- uncoil. Just take the daisy-chain off the top and throw it. It will run smooth nearly every time.
There is a fair amount of misinformation in this short video. As you eventually acknowledge, the coiling method will impart a full twist for each coil. Not good. Either reversing every other coil, or simply laying it back and foth in your hand rather than coiling would avoid this problem. Also, Duncan, the idea that three strand rope should be coiled in one direction because of the twist of the strands ignores the fact that "right hand" is "left hand" if you turn the coil around. You can coil three strand in either direction, really. Uh, and then you demonstrate how to do it so you don't have enough length left to hang it up as you say is the point of the coiling system? Maybe you should have tried this before you turned on the camera to get the length right. So, I will make you a deal. You drop by the Alamitos Bay Yacht Club, in Long Beach, California, and we'll have a few beers and really get to the bottom of this whole rope coiling thing. Russ Sailing Vessel "Coyote" ABYC
I should be delighted to meet and have a beer. We have come a long way since this video and I should delete it because as you say it misinforms but it has a high viewership and I am reluctant to do so. This video from Stress Free Sailing is what we present these days - vimeo.com/110879100
Oh what a shame you don't prefer the much superior gasket coil. Your preferred method will come undone all too readily. The gasket coil is so named because it has been used to coil the gaskets on square riggers for centuries, they hang neatly on the forward side of sails through all weathers, the last thing you want is a gasket coming loose in a gale and jambing the gear when clewing up...... It's sad to see bad practice being taught to new sailors. But that's 'yotties' for you.
I would call the bite “ spliced” rather than pre spliced. No need for the “ pre” in most cases....I worked as a carpenter for yrs. Was told many times to “ pre- drill” something. I would take a sip from my coffee, then “ drill the hole. Not pre drill the hole.
Except as a shipwright I have often pre-drilled a part in the workshop so that I don't have to do it on the job where there might not be the electricity or the ability to drill as accurately as one can in ideal circumstances. I think with this guy not being a seaman like a great many yotties he can't do his own splicing so has to get the supplier of the rope to do it so buys his warps 'pre' spliced, ie done by someone else.
Richard D You “ drilled” the hole , lol. Pre drill might involve charging battery or a coffee. Pre is often mis used and not proper. Sorry, my damn grandfather was a Cornell English geek. Lol
Ah, I have one over on your Grandfather, I'm English! 'drilled' is in past tense because I said I have, implying in the past...... The term pre-drilled, pre-spliced, pre-anything is perfectly proper grammar where I come from. By yours I gather you are American? You don't speak English that side of the pond!
Richard D Lol. Can one pre anything really? We can arrange things, drill things do things. Not pre- do things. We can have a pre- mature ejaculation. I know it sounds great and is a valuable means of communication but...Perhaps I will find time to research up something good for this one! I’ll try and think about it some more. Lol To Old to bother thinking about so many things, especially in a world fraught with absolute nonsense. Men to the moon. Aah ahh ahh
Wrong way to cool a rope This.ends with a twist in the rope. The better way to cool a rope is to start the same way but to pass the rope over not wrapping around the wrist like shown. This way you end up with no twist in the rope
if you coil from the free end and finish with the spliced end, you can hang the coil from the prepare splice on a hook or peg etc.
True. I should have added that.
Jordan Harkness it’s what i do too.
Yes but you won't get rid of the twist
Finish with the spliced end is how, me, a Pro 1st Mate does it. Less work.
@@markswishereatsstuff2500 I like to have anything that makes a line different (i.e. splice, shackle, other hardware) hanging down so I can spot different lines easily.
Benefit of gasket coil hitch is that it tends to stay locked up for longer. Your preferred method will come undone more easily when the coil is being passed (thrown!) around the boat. Agreed it hangs straight and looks neater for mainsheets hung on the end of the boom. You could also add a half twist to the bight as you pass it through the coil and then hang the coil on that bight. This is good for hanging halyards off a cleat on the mast.
If you hang the different coils in order (in the direction from your elbow to your hand) it won't foul even if you don't manually uncoil it before using it, which is a mess if the rope is really long. If the rope is too long you can pass the first coils on to your arm before continuing.
Excellent! Especially for the new sailor. Your explanation is simple to follow and execute. Thank you.
I'm happy the internet didn't exist when this man was a young man o'wise the whole YT would be spam.
Very good presentation. I liked how you repeated your original tie after doing the gasket tie. Excellent.
Wow. Just tried your tieoff on half inch anchor line. Marvellous. Thanks again.
an english seaman showed me one where you make an x to sinch a loop for hanging when i was a teen but i lost how to do it but your way is fine and easier to remember; thanks
well described. My vote is for the gasket coil
if it's longer and especially if it's braided not twisted, you really should figure 8 not round coils. You are adding twist with each round coil. when you understand wrap a longer line (i.e. a spare sheet or halyard) it will kink and foul.
thx. for the video, I have seen people coiling it using figure 8 method. They say it prevents twisting of long ropes. What are your thoughts on this?
Agreed
Thank you for that ,I own lots of rope, now all i need is the boat :o)
I like the gaskey coil hitch because you don't need any free end to tidy the line.
The way to release a Gasket Coil hitch is just pull the bight back over the top of the coil, you don't snake the free end back out.
Yes, I realise that and should hjave added this in. If you check the videos on coiling rope in my Stress-Free Sailing and Stress-Free Motorboating I have corrected this.
The gasket coil hitch is better because it locks the coil. Also, you should leave more on the end so that you can clove hitch it to a rail below and the rope hangs and dries. They should all be hung up, not thrown into lockers. Good to see clockwise coiling.
I agree. See Stress-Free Sailing etc, we now include it
Thank you, just what I needed to see!!!
Thank you
Great! I took a two day beginners sailing course and the instructor was not best pleased at my attempt at knots!
Are you saying that having viewed my video you did not have the knots under the belt or that the instructor was not impressed and so you watched the video and are now fully armed with all the knots. I'm confused. D
APSLDT.com shows how to coil without introducing twist. Maybe because it is a short length....Clean and pretty but will it feed smartly through a block? But I mostly surf and the only line I use is the leash.
very good normally most people ignore all this things in life , and will have to face trouble at crucial occasions .
Each time the rope goes over your hand to form a coil it should pass back in a different direction, little finger to thumb, thumb to little finger. That way its not being twisted as you have just done....
Not for a braided line! Excellent for the three-strand shown.
One large improvement to your method. That pre-spliced eye on your beginning end?? When you first lay it to begin the coil,,, make it longer than the coil is going to be. Allow it to hang a substantial,, for that size and weight rope,, 10 or 12 inches lower than the bottom of the loops. Because,,,, when the starting loop is shorter, if often drops through the coil, or can be pulled through the coil when you go to use it. That will cause a knot and a delay. If the starting loop is longer, it resists dropping through the coils and usually,,, not always, stays to the correct side so when you drop the coil for use,, it runs true. You need not do a pre- uncoil. Just take the daisy-chain off the top and throw it. It will run smooth nearly every time.
*Great*
Very helpful
Thank you
Nicely Done
Thank you
There is a fair amount of misinformation in this short video. As you eventually acknowledge, the coiling method will impart a full twist for each coil. Not good. Either reversing every other coil, or simply laying it back and foth in your hand rather than coiling would avoid this problem. Also, Duncan, the idea that three strand rope should be coiled in one direction because of the twist of the strands ignores the fact that "right hand" is "left hand" if you turn the coil around. You can coil three strand in either direction, really. Uh, and then you demonstrate how to do it so you don't have enough length left to hang it up as you say is the point of the coiling system? Maybe you should have tried this before you turned on the camera to get the length right. So, I will make you a deal. You drop by the Alamitos Bay Yacht Club, in Long Beach, California, and we'll have a few beers and really get to the bottom of this whole rope coiling thing.
Russ
Sailing Vessel "Coyote"
ABYC
I should be delighted to meet and have a beer. We have come a long way since this video and I should delete it because as you say it misinforms but it has a high viewership and I am reluctant to do so. This video from Stress Free Sailing is what we present these days -
vimeo.com/110879100
Oh what a shame you don't prefer the much superior gasket coil. Your preferred method will come undone all too readily. The gasket coil is so named because it has been used to coil the gaskets on square riggers for centuries, they hang neatly on the forward side of sails through all weathers, the last thing you want is a gasket coming loose in a gale and jambing the gear when clewing up...... It's sad to see bad practice being taught to new sailors. But that's 'yotties' for you.
I agree. We include the gasket coil nowadays
I'm also left handed
good one!!!!
Thank you
Could you be any more British. Very good sir. Thank you
Forget the wraps
Thanks...very good....JM
Thank you
I would call the bite “ spliced” rather than pre spliced. No need for the “ pre” in most cases....I worked as a carpenter for yrs. Was told many times to “ pre- drill” something. I would take a sip from my coffee, then “ drill the hole. Not pre drill the hole.
Except as a shipwright I have often pre-drilled a part in the workshop so that I don't have to do it on the job where there might not be the electricity or the ability to drill as accurately as one can in ideal circumstances. I think with this guy not being a seaman like a great many yotties he can't do his own splicing so has to get the supplier of the rope to do it so buys his warps 'pre' spliced, ie done by someone else.
Richard D You “ drilled” the hole , lol. Pre drill might involve charging battery or a coffee. Pre is often mis used and not proper. Sorry, my damn grandfather was a Cornell English geek. Lol
Ah, I have one over on your Grandfather, I'm English! 'drilled' is in past tense because I said I have, implying in the past...... The term pre-drilled, pre-spliced, pre-anything is perfectly proper grammar where I come from. By yours I gather you are American? You don't speak English that side of the pond!
Richard D Lol. Can one pre anything really? We can arrange things, drill things do things. Not pre- do things. We can have a pre- mature ejaculation. I know it sounds great and is a valuable means of communication but...Perhaps I will find time to research up something good for this one! I’ll try and think about it some more. Lol To Old to bother thinking about so many things, especially in a world fraught with absolute nonsense. Men to the moon. Aah ahh ahh
Life's too short, look in a dictionary ffs!!
pre
ˈpriː/Submit
preposition
previous to; before.
"the tree was almost certainly planted pre 1700"
Wrong way to cool a rope
This.ends with a twist in the rope.
The better way to cool a rope is to start the same way but to pass the rope over not wrapping around the wrist like shown.
This way you end up with no twist in the rope
"Rope" comes on a spool.... "line" is the proper word....
True
Wrong.
gettin lernt and shit