Choose Your Starter And CHANGE It's Typing!
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We randomized Pokemon our starters but we won't be able to choose them! Instead, we'll ask our opponent to ban one of the starters on screen! When they choose one to ban, we'll choose one of the remaining Pokemon as our starter, but CHANGE it's typing to the left over Pokemon! After six rounds of banning and science, we'll build the best teams we can, and have a best of three set of Pokemon battles!
Featuring @GameboyLuke
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I left a longer comment down below. I’m extremely disappointed in the direction you’re going and it genuinely makes me sad.
Music is a bit loud
@ bruh that’s your problem? These guys are hacks and fakes.
@wyattzilla69 woah, are you going to let strangers watch you spiral? Let it out, dude.
Never buy anything that's heavily advertised on YT
While talking about fun, 5 seconds in, casually shows Dylan's worst moment of his professional career.
i would have to say dylan getting reverse swept by oricorio is just as bad as the venomoth sweep 😂
Yea but venomoth is awful oricorio got some potential with dancer and revelation dance.
@@link29291 Oricorio almost always sweeps in these formats with the tera+revelation dance mechanic.
That's crazy
@@matvii782 people actually use venomoth in draft sometimes, bc tinted lens quiver dance is actually pretty solid
13:00 "No STAB" he says right after saying the dark type has Crunch...
Give the guy a break, probably was recording for a long time across both channels. 😅
Bruh
Shady forgot the types were switched. He said that multiple times during the battle.
"At the end of the day-"
Me: "It's night."
Same 😂 We’ve been influenced by a dad
It seems Father has taught you well
It through me off when he didn’t say it lol
i get yelled at for saying it at work whenever something unfortunate happens 😂
I always say that now too!
we sure did have a lot of fun
Hi lukey
Favorite youtuber.
I love you guys yah keep me from my demons in my head I truly love you guys yah are truly part of my family
Is this another lie? That’s crazy
Lying is meanie behavior
12:20 This moment is so amazing, "I've got you downloaded" Luke says after banning the worst Pokemon AND type on the screen lmaoo
9:15 the fact that he didn't run technician with swift and electro web here is kind of nuts
came to comments for this
@@jacksonhouston8491 same... Like technician is a top 20 ability imo
@@jacksonhouston8491same as well 😂 I had to recheck his abilities cause I thought I was going crazy
It’s because he thinks that it’s funny to pretend to be terrible at pokemon and make things “fair”
This isn't the first time I've seen them sleep on Technician in one of these videos, although Raikou wasn't set up _quite_ as well to take advantage of it.
I'm not even necessarily sure I agree with you on the Electroweb idea, because it's not 100% accurate and even Technician-boosted it's weaker than Tbolt. But Swift as Normal STAB, absolutely. *Charge Beam,* even though it's even weaker than Electroweb, might be a good idea because of its boosting effect. But since that's not even STAB, why not instead run Snarl?
Shady: "this dark type Pokémon has crunch"
Also Shady: "we have no STAB but that's okay" 😂
I think mirror herb copies all stat changes that happen in one instance; Stamina and Weakness Policy TECHNICALLY activate at the "same" time, that is, they both activate "when hit by a move", and Mirror Herb activates once all those buffs have happened "at once", and so it copies them all together.
Shady, your line was: "at the end of the day, it's night"
My favorite Shady quote tho
He was feeling a bit zaney and went off script
prankster non ice rock avalug would go hard ngl you kinda missed that. like give him stealth rock iron def recover body press and he would have commit some warcrimes for sure
Right? I was surprised he didn't want a non-Ice/Rock Avalugg. I'm also not a professional Poketuber and he is so what would I know 😅
They literally do this on purpose. They don’t give af about providing actual good gameplay, they care more about being “funny” and clip farming
I was gonna comment how bad luke fumbled there. Ice/rock is soooo bad and he threw it on a not great pokemon, then didn't take levitate.
@@wyattzilla69 That's not really true. Yeah sometimes they do certain things for content or because it seems more fun, but that doesn't mean they don't care about being competitive, sometimes they just overlook certain options, tunnel vision and hindsight are a beauty of a thing.
@@wyattzilla69dude you’re under every comment crying 🤣 I promise no one cares as much as you do
You know it’s a new year, anything can happen. I’m gonna throw a video idea your way. Y’all randomize your Pokemon, but you will give the typing of the Pokémon you choose to your opponent. (I.E. you choose a pelipper and they choose Scizor. Your pelipper is now a Steel/Bug) and to make sure there is no counter play, y’all tell each other your picks until the end of the round. Plus give them an illegal move for stab. Happy New Year 🎉
14:55 wouldn't dual wingbeat be better than brave bird? with technician they both have 120 base power, and while brave bird has better accuracy, it was recoil and only hits once. i guess shady is just traumatized from missing all those thunder waves to risk a miss lol
There's a reason he likes to run wide lens 😂
@@homerman76 and the poor guy still misses population bombs 😭
Starting off the new Year with Shady AND Lukey?! This is perfect!!
Then we fight proposal: You see the randomized starters of your opponent. Then you describe them to your opponent in an unconventional way . Eg (if it happens to be Dylan you can describe the pokemon using league terms), compare them to movie/anime characters, use inside jokes etc
Video ends at 45:11
Thanks dude
we going to to ignore Shady hitting that singing note 26:36
you should do one where before you turn, you randomize abilities put them in slot 1, 2, or 3 and then the person picks the slot then you turn around and reveal the pokemon.
Luke could have taken a Dark Flying Hisuian Avalugg with Prankster Stealth Rocks... bro sold HARD.
AND THEN HE ALSO DIDN'T SWAP THE ICE ROCK TYPE?!
Intro with "Pokemon is about having fun" as we see the legendary "Well-Baked-Body Venomoth" clip and Dylan's fear as he realised it.
Comedy
0:05 You really put this for the fun part, what an insane troll for our dear UnitedGamer X) Really like it !
Love the Metaphor battle remix in the second battle! :D
Was looking for this comment ❤
I have an idea, what if you did “pick your starter by their favorite TH-camr” (Doesn’t have to be a Pokemon TH-camr) Is this a good idea?😅
Reminder to Luke or anyone in these that can get Contrary on a Pokemon with no stat lower moves.. STELLAR TERA tera blast drops your offensive stats plus 1. I know shady tried stellar recently and realized it isn’t crazy on its own, but it’s still a stab 100 base power move that can’t be resisted, and more importantly, isn’t immune to anything at all unlike draco to fairy or superpower/cc to ghost, so its a guaranteed boost. I thunk it would be a unique cook that could make any ‘mon in the game be avle to use contrary
but that basically means you're burning your tera specifically for this pokemon, which isn't ideal
if you used tera already then it's just a pokemon with no ability and tera blast without tera basically do nothing
@ yes but the strat works, and a lot of times they do go into it with a specific tera in mind.
@@AmaneKoruba Even still, it's better if you have more reason to run it and/or a better mon. Froslass just wasn't worth it 🤔
@@homerman76 What Luke said is “Froslass has no moves to run contrary” literally all I’m saying is there’s always an option now. Its not like a run every single time thing, but it’s an option that exists. And In my opinion it sounds really fun and unique, thats all.
@@AmaneKoruba shady actually has done that exact thing before with a contrary ursaluna... or at least he chose stellar tera because of that interaction also being an option; I don't remember if he ever actually terastalized ursaluna in any of the battles in that video, though
TWF Idea: Basically its Little Cup. Your opponent blindly chooses your starter and you have to use the pokemon at the start of its evolutionary line. (Blastoise becomes Squirtle, Pikachu to Pichu, Lapras stays Lapras). However Legends are turned off. As for a twist, I can't think of any so whatever you want!
Maybe some sort of buff for Pokemon that evolve so that Pokemon that don't have any evolutions, like say Tauros, aren't just the best 🤔
41:55 Luke being SPOT ON with the 33% is craaaazy!
mirror herb copying all buffs from weakness policy and stamina boost is craaaazy, saved Shady against that sacred fire fr
Always SO excited for a Shady P Post! Love who you collab with and listening to the FIRE GlitchxCity music made it a TON better! Hope you keep creating more DOPE content and look forward to Dadsbeindudes! 😄
I have loved shady, dylan, luke, vinny, and the whole gang for almost 2 years now. Thank you guys so much for all the enjoyment, however i'm in a predicament now lol, i just recently got a good pc and i've been trying my hardest to figure out how to randomize pokemon SV and its not working out to well, if anyone could help me that you be greatly appreciated!! again, thank you shady and the whole gang for making these amazing videos and making me think outside the box on how to play the pokemon games!!
I absolutely love how much Venomoth has taken off within the friend group! It’s taken a life of its own! 😂
Oh my god, that Dragon Ninetales art in the thumbnail is absolutely gorgeous. Ninetales is one of my favorite pokemon, so I love seeing representation in these types of videos.
I think the mirror herb thing is it takes what ever stats happen that turn. The stamina boost and weakness policy happen on one turn so u get both those boosts. If u wanted to take the stats from all the previous turns you’d have to use the move Psych Up.
Kind of. It is only taking the stat boosts of the specific interaction. For example if Ho-Oh used a set up move mirror herb would copy that then Jirachi thunderbolt would proc stamina and weakness policy but the mirror herb would not proc for that interaction since it was used. It is only taking the stamina and weakness policy is because they are happening at the same interaction within the turn.
Then We Fight Suggestion:
- Randomize 6 sets of starters each
- Build 2 teams each
- Best of three
- First fight is blind, not knowing the opposing team
- Second is sweat… Each player gets to know everything about the other team, and prepares their team in advance of the battle
- Third is a “build your own” battle with selections from both teams
Can be done with any variations on pokemon moves/abilities/items, etc.
0:00 you meant to say that at the end of day its night, Shady
I don't think he realised meowscarada learns "Chilling water" Not the strongest move at only 50, but it would be stab water and lowers enemy attack.
Shady built it physical. Chilling Water is a special move, so it uses a significantly worse attack stat, especially with a negative nature, and would need the double STAB or a weird Special (or mixed) Meowscarada build to be worthwhile. I think Shady just misspoke here, meaning no physical STAB instead of no STAB at all.
If he did overlook it, it was probably just due to immediately eliminating special moves, which means he did himself a favor by not forcing STAB.
@jolteon345 ya that makes sense, I always forget meowscarada is physical.
I said the exact samething to the screen when shady said that lol 😆
Looks like there are actually a fair few other fire types that learn Iron Head, I remembered Cinderace off the top of my head but looking at Bulbapedia it looks like both Arcanines, both Typhlosions, Marowak (including alolan), Tauros (including blaze breed), Entei/Gouging Fire, the Numel line, Emboar, Darmanitan, Incineroar, and Turtonator have all learned it as well (plus the Fire/Steel Heatran, of course)
I'm so glad I found this channel a while back. I think I have learned more from these nutzo battles than I have from the last almost 30 years of actually playing the games.
Also, fun fact: Pokemon will be 30 next year. Calling that Gen 10 will be the big anniversary title, and announce on pokemon day this year.
Idea: Combine Our Starters but there's 4 of them
- 4 starters
- You choose one, take either stats, ability, type or movepool
- Opponent chooses one to give you from the remaining options
- You choose how the final 2 are allocated
- Can choose to evolve any amount, or not at all, but not devolve
Example:
Petilil, Charcadet, Sandy Shocks, Bombirdier
You choose Petilil's movepool
Opponent chooses Bombirder's type
You choose Sandy Shocks' stats and Charcadet's ability
Mirror Herb: Just after an opponent has a stat increase, the holder consumes the Mirror Herb and gets the same stat increase. If multiple stats of the opponent are increased at once (for instance by using Dragon Dance), all the stat increases are copied.
From what this reads as since Stamina and Weakness Policy went off, it seems like Mirror Herb waits for all stat increases to happen if they will all happen at the same time. It however will only copy the immediate stat changes not ALL stat changes prior. From the video at 37:41 where Weakness Policy and Stamina go off together again +2 SpAtk and Atk (Weakness policy) and +1 Def (Stamina) or something like DDance even if they DDance once before you only mirror the DDance the pokemon is present for.
I did not know that worked that way
That well baked body moment was crazy as part of the intro of having fun 🤣
Poor Dylan😂
SHADY PLEASE DO MORE BATTLES WITH LUKE YOU GUYS BOTH MAKE SUPER INTERESTING PLAYS AND IT MAKES THIS SO ENTERTAINING GENUINELY PEAK PLAYER CHEMISTRY
That Mirror herb Jirachi was fire! Would love to see you do 7 pokemon just to have that 1 benched switch to keep things wild in rounds 2 and 3. loving the vids cant wait to see what longer form project you cook up
"fun is the heart of everything pokemon" meanwhile he's showing THE Venomoth on screen.
luke is remarkably good at estimating pokemon health
at 41:56 he says jirachi is at 33% health, and 58/175 = 33.1%
and then the 70% call at the end
I actually really liked this format, I'd love to see more like this!
the music choice for the intro was impeccable! i'm already super excited for the video and having fun as we speak and the video barely even started yet! woo
music all throughout was great i gotta say, i had fun watching this!
Great first battle of the year! Always good seeing Shady v GBL. And I like the twist at the end of selecting starters too 🎉
hey, shady. her'es an idea. you and 2-3 of your friends can do a nuzlocke BUT all of you are type specialists. you spin a wheel independantly and in secret so none of you know who got which type. it's allowed to have pokemon of different types than the one you'll be an expert for (that includes pokemon that WILL become your type or ones that are not), but when you fill all 6 slots the only pokemon with a type that's not the same is yours that you could catch and use next are ones that evolve into your type.
example. you get the dark type and you're a dark type expert
as long as you have 5 or less dark type pokemon, you can catch and use a pikachu, a clefairy, a seedot, a sableye, etc
but when you get your sixth type, you can only catch a larvitar, a spiritomb, a seedot, a skourpi, and absol, etc
if a rout HAS a pokemon of your type but your first encounter is NOT the same type, you can exit the tall grass and you try to catch the pokemon of your type (technically it's no longer a nuzlocke but i do want to give a chance to any of you who'll get a type with very few pokemon :P)
I heard that Metaphor Refantzio Remix..😏
Shady Metaphor playthrough on his website someday? That would be incredible.
26:41 singing actually good tho
An easy way to think about how Mirror Herb works is that it copies all the stat changes an opponent receives between moves. In this case, between Jirachi using Thunderbolt and you choosing your next moves, Ho-oh received a defence buff from Stamina and a double Attack and Special Attack buff from the Weakness policy (+2 Atk, +1 Def, +2 SpA). As a result, Jirachi's stats increased by the same amount.
Actually really like this concept plus the switch at the end👌🏼👌🏼
I’ve always wondered what it would be like to try and hack “as one” in these games for a video where you gave the pokemon two abilities. Now that would be some crazy plays.
A fun video idea would be picking each others pokemon blind however the pokemon chosen on both side have their types swapped, so if you picked a delibird blind for your opponent and they picked a miraidon for you, they'd have a dragon and electric type delibird, while you would get a water and flying type miraidon
Dark Type With Crunch: *exists*
Shady: No STAB
A cool version of this would ve blindly choosing your starters, your opponent gives you a typing based off the pokemon on their screen and you get to choose an ability off any pokemon on your screen you didn't pick!
Mirror herb triggers and copies all stat changes caused by one event. Stamina and Policy were both triggered by TBolt, so Mirror Herb copies both changes
I have an idea!… do this whole idea again but make it so the pokemon you choose has to have the primary type of the banned pokemon!
I think Mirror Herb procs at the end of the round when a stat boost happens, and since stamina and weakness policy both procced that turn, it copied both.
"Pokemon is all about fun"
No guard zap cannon dark void Darkrai:👁️👄👁️
OMG poor Dylan, it really was the Venomoth in the intro!
Imagine Shady made a Well-Baked Body Venomoth again...
14:54 Why not technician boosted dual-wingbeat instead to get the same power as brave bird without the self damage, with the advantage of one shoting focus sash !
well I can understand if it's because of the minus 10% accuracy but still...
Video idea: describe the 3 pokemons in front of you and your opponent has to choose witch you will get AND he will give the pokemon a buff, debuff or it stays as it is. You can choose buff, debuff or nothing 2 times each and the opponent has to decide what he will do to the pokemon before he knows what the pokemon is. You can change some things so you think its more fun to watch.
I would be very very happy if you could do a video like this :)
Pretty wild that the 2 type swaps were both chosen from the same round. Meowscarada Raikou, and Staraptor Blastoise
You could've also went with Galvanize for Dusk Mane Nekrozma with the Electric Tera Type. Even without Teralization, with Tera Blast being classified as a Normal move, it becomes Electric with the ability.
0:07 Not Dylan's face before that Venemoth Sweep! 😂
That paralysis was definitely making up for all the times Shady missed Thunder Wave. XD
With all of Luke’s and Shady’s Legendaries, they’re not just having fun. At this point, they’re basically just having a Field Day.
I have a fun idea shady you pick your starters but you ban one blindly before you spin around and your opponent has to use that Pokémon and you get to chose between the 2 left over ^-^
Been a little while since I’ve watched a “Then We Fight” vid, mostly because I was watching too many YT videos to the point where I had 50 tabs open so I had to cut back on what I wanted to watch lol. Still been keeping up with the dads though
that is insanely strong i thought mirror herb would just copy the stamina boost but the fact it waited and copied all is soooo good.
Knowing the mons is more fun for banter, team building and passive/audio viewers
The fact Shady didn't put Defiant from Falinks onto Meowscarada feels like it should be a crime. It worked out as Defiant never would've proced anyway during this, but if I was doing this, I would've done Defiant every single time..... unless the type was one that was weak to water, then and only them would I do Storm Drain.
Ice/Rock Honchkrow over Dark/Flying H. Avalugg is actually insane
I THINK Mirror herb copies every stat change that just happened. When you hit Ho-oh with t-bolt, it triggers both Stamina, and Weakness Policy, so because those both happened in the same instant, both changes are copied. That’s the best guess I have for that. Super weird interaction tbh
I like how the group is learning why Dylan speaks of how op mirror herb is
Mirror herb copies the stamina and the weakness policy because the same action is causing them to happen. Once everything is done for that move the mirror herb hits and copies the stat changes.
Can we just have a moment to appreciate how amazing that thumbnail is?
some of these choice I cannot understand. especially the meowscarada. it's water type and heavy physical attacker. you have access to water veil to prevent burns, battle armor to not get crit-oneshot, or defiant for counters against any possibly intimidate or move's secondary stat drop. and you go for water absorb...
Yo these previews we're gorgeous especially for that final mix up!
8:49 No technician?
Fantastic video!!! Thank you so much for including the type changes and listening to us commenters. 2025 is the year of the penguin!
The only reason it took the defense buff was because stamina and weakness policy both happened at the same time (after the attack). Why on earth would it take all the other stamina boosts?
Now that yall are getting into mirror herb, fun one to try is mirror herb + swagger against a special attacker. they get confuse and +2 attack and you get to copy the +2 attack.
Luke fumbling hard not taking the Dark flying hisuian avalugg.
The intro gave me flashbacks of watching the shady engagement livestream back in the day when I was 10 years old
You should do a video where you have the 4 starters 1 being behind you. You only look at the 3 in front and you have to choose one for the type, stats, and ability before looking at your 4th and the 4th is the one you take to battle with it's moves
zekroms crunch was stab the whole time lol
How dare TH-cam not tell me Shady uploaded for a whole half hour
Can you do another video with choosing pokemon by color but use the official ones given by Nintendo cause there are some wild ones. Could also be one is a lie.
Video Idea (Possibly?): Is there a way to choose a random number wheel/generator between 1 & # of Then We Fight Thumbnails - then you and your opponent have to choose a pokemon that is hsown within the thumbnail. If it was used in the video, you get that build but if not it's all random generated?
SHADY PPPPP , JUST IN TIME FOR LUNCH 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
7:40 shady: "this will be really good for the tumbnail"
also shady: uses ninetails and duraludon, wich arent in the vid
Staraptor almost ending up returning to Normal/Flying is hilarious to me
trading off normal typing when you had technician/STAB/choice band quick attack was a wild decision
mirror herb only copy all the stat changes that happens that turn, so it doesn't copy all stats like psych up. so since you popped a stamina and weakness policy in 1 turn those are the stats that gets copied.
15:37 I'm surprised he didn't pick flying dark hisuian avalugg, that thing would have been unkillable! Also it gets crunch
this thumbnail is unlike anything i have seen from the shadypenguin, well played.
"Fun is the heart of everything Pokemon"
*Shows the Venomoth incident of 2023*
Love the music during the fights shady!