@@reezyvofficial which proves his whole point that our business savvy leaders aren’t Re guarded the way they should be, that’s why he kept sayin that they explanation proves his point
he was on the debate team in highschool, it makes sense. he’s used to debating without being biased, which is the whole point of debating. but most ppl argue instead of debate, ppl get too emotionally attached to their opinions, that they’re blinded by logic and all emotion.
@@consistentbuy8988 I'm sayin, they didn't record this pod this week or last week. It was released on Patreon awhile ago. Putting it on youtube was a good idea for this weekend, is what im sayin
@@easymoney9851 I understood his point. Ish ice and surf also misrepresented Joe’s point as Joe never stated is HOV viewed as an “equal” they added those words
Facts tho ! Makes me glad to see when people give this platform the just do it deserves .. Joe and the team is on a crazy run and they really working working .. Anybody that grinds will respect it !!!
I believe in history repeating itself and im guntitles all day..Surf gonna fuck around and take Cortez lite like he did 40 bars lol.Watch.I hope not but im nervous about this Sunday for him.Cortez is still a legend and was smoking shit before Surf was Surf
The old mal and rory clips were definitely funnier but this the 2nd episode post them I've listened in entirety (the bdk krs verzus was 1st) because I love battle rap lol
Oh my God! 😮 This episode got SPIIIIICY on the back-end. Joe, you deseve some type of recognition for how truly dedicated to your view you will stand. This guy refuses to budge an inch. He walk up in the White House, sits in the presidents chair, and if he tells himself he’s the new president just like that, BELIEVE we got ourselves a new president. And nobody tellin this man otherwise. Without Joe being so dedicated to not budging an inch, we wouldn’t get these type of debated though. And sometimes it takes a little raw emotion to drive the point home, and make the listener fully understand
They were on the back of the lady london interview with this one. They were podding for over 5 hours straight and didn't skip a beat! Both were fire and did the content is amazing! Good views and opinions. The JBP is on a run! Lay down or stay down!
Probably one of my favorite episodes ever, the point Joe was trying to make about black people not getting their just due is an important psychological barrier that needs addressing. "White ice is colder"
Yeah Joe is stuck on race. I think Tyler Perry highly regarded for his accomplishments. There are plenty of black people who are celebrated on a major level.
@@RAMONE1907 You miss the point. Even tho Tyler Perry has built a Hollywood level studio outside of Hollywood, which is unheard of, he’s still seen as the guy that plays Madea. And that’s ridiculous. The man is building an airport for cripes sake… and the first thing you address him as is the guy in a dress. 😐 Same goes for Jay-Z. His mother in law was just saying this a couple months ago. That the well to do white folks have talked about him to her as a former drug dealer rapper, even tho he’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaay past that now, and how they can’t see why Beyonce decided to deal with him.
@@RAMONE1907 if you look through his awards in his field, he has not been given his just due. The Emmys and Oscars had to give him honorary awards 20+ years into his career (his first award from any of these institutions) after shutting out his shows and movies for years. He built an empire and still couldn’t be recognized because the people judging, culturally, don’t understand why his movies could be considered good and artistically great.
Surf is really one of the most underrated music artists in the game. Bro music is so fire 🔥 As a fan of him in battle rap too, he should have been on this run he's on, but I understood why he wasn't. This next opponent doesn't even realize how spooky Surf is about to be come Sunday. Shoutout to one of my favorite rappers out right now and my favorite battle rapper besides Ill Will 💯
Nah Cortez knows exactly what he gettin into. Now is what he has on Sunday enough to beat surf? Don’t know. Is surf gonna choke? That’s a valid question too…
@Vado Dacruz stop asking if that man gone choke until it happens and it hasn't happened in his past 3 battles. At some point folks gotta stop bringing that up 🤷🏿♂️ Cor cool but it's nothing he does better than Surf. Period!
@@qindatrap8098 i would love if that happens.... cor is surf elder if cor go hard he mite can end surf ...if cor get super personal he might can win...
JBP BOYS! - watch Ish @ 2:28:35 vigorously getting out of his chair while pushing the mic away .. all while saying, "Let's bet money on it! How much money you got?! -- That was hilarious at least 6 times over again. Best episode in my opinion !
Joe with Rory and Mal at the peak of their friendship is the greatest pod of all time. But ish and ice is definitely better than the more recent Rory & Mal episodes.
Nah. Whenever I watch one I realize how much I want to see them with the other. Rory and Mal have a more light hearted comedic pod and The JBP is more of a informative debate show with laughs sprinkled in, and I often feel like they need each other to balance the vibe. I honestly hope they eventually peace it up so we can get a collab with everyone together.
Yes two things can be right, but Joe is just wrong. He’s trying to spin it into “this is what I’m really asking” all the time when somebody answers his question, and the majority doesn’t side with his view point. This nigga really said take money out of the equation to try and prove his point, then threw money back in to try and say they were wrong 🤣. I’m never listening to the man who said doubling down on a $100 bet means I owe you $300 if I lose.
I absolutely love this episode!!! This solidified the new crew, proved that Joe is wrong, and he doesn't have "yes men". I've been waiting for this in the podcast. Collectively, this is entertaining and enlightening.
“When I think about it, if you insert Jay z, it strengthens my point” 😂😂😂 when he said “when I think about it” in this convo he gave them bs! Joe the man yo
This man should not be in prison. He is good at communicating with people and seems to have a good head on his shoulder just wrong company. Someone of his caliber should not be getting caught up and I’m saying that with all the respect for his potential
This is a classic episode. I’ve had my doubts but joe a God at changing the main point of an argument by bringing similar but different correct point to a different unasked question.
Joe is a master at pulling n evoking emotions out of people to express their points. Forces them to expound and articulate their perspective. Now whether he believes his own points is a different question, makes for interesting podding
Facts. Conversations with polarized points are way more interesting than conversations where people agree. I don't care if it is intentional or accidental, what Joe does works.
It’s really simple: ish is describing things as they are. Joe is describing things as they should be. If I bring billions to the table, who cares if I have a red star on my head or a grill? I’ve demonstrated my value. This is what Kanye was also ranting about. I’m surprised Joe didn’t bring Kanye & Nike’s history as an example to illustrate his point. Ish is right though: You can’t sit at that table if you’re perceived a certain way. Using Jay Z as an example was checkmate.
You just explained why Ish was wrong though... Ish saying that you can't show up to a meeting with red star tattoos and a grill but those things are the only reason you got the meeting in the first place... Which goes back to Joe's point about the industry being selective about who they put backing behind... They are actively looking for dummy's... Which is why they put backing behind drill rappers... They aren't the only rappers that generate dollars BUT they generate dollars AND they aren't a threat to the establishment... ISH is talking as if the industry doesn't have options... That's what Joe and Ice are eluding to... The industry doesn't have to ride the drill wave if they don't want to...
Nah this true but not true this doesn’t apply to any other race. Because white people, Chinese, Indian(middle eastern) pull up looking to multiple tables looking exactly how the white American culture perceived them n cartoons or jokes or there fears yet they do the deal. It’s only the black culture that’s judged still on the color of they skin or how they dress or act naturally to define their actions, business, future.
Since the podcast started I’ve been waiting for surf to be on here hopefully he does a couple more with you guys & starts his own podcast on your network
I love this. Keep going, JBP. Y’all let me know who or what y’all get into on Patreon, and its like this informative and entertaining, I’ll get Patreon for this content. Blessings, y’all. 💯
@@cherellewilliams458 Einstein was only a mad scientist to his peers at the time pushing know intellectual boundaries will do that joe is an illogical unfaltering psycho at points that’s different
Tsu: continues to give interview gold and begins to give intimate account of when he was recently shot 5 times, while also juxtaposing his situation with Nipsey’s who was also shot 5 times Joe: interrupts
Joe's Pivot in a argument is crazy every time he gets proved wrong his point was something else LMAO
Ish catch it every time lol
Lol ODIEEEEE!!! Goalpost is forever moving! He like the wack-a-mole at the carnival
@@justinhoward2132 facts! Uncle Ish hold him to the fire every time! Naw bucko you ain’t say that
@@dadestar5 FACTS
At this point it’s a skill 😂
“I gave you a billion dollars, I look up 7 years later, and your a BIGGER BLOOD!”….Surf funny as hell!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL, that part was cracking me up too.
Bruuuuuuuh 😂😂😂 I laughed for 10 minutes offa that. Best JBP ever IMO.
Bruh I'm still laughing at this part LMAO
Dawg I LOST it. I need Surf as a regular on the show
Truth in humor 😮💨
"You the only nigga in here agreeing with ya fucking self" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Ish is the kryptonite to Joe every time
This was the best pod ever lmao. The ending was HILARIOUS Joe is a PROFESSIONAL
Yesssss
Phenomenal episode. Surf 100% needs his own podcast. He’s ultra interesting to listen to.
He got one . Twitter Space . Lol
Just go on his Spaces he talks all day
Talked all that shit bout Math Hoffa only to try & be Math
@@ogbobbyt2159 math can’t get a battle so he had no choice to cross over 😂
Indeed
When surf said after 7 years all you did was become a BIGGER BLOOD 😂😂it was over. and it was all love at the end yo I love this pod man
Yeah that one point he made got me to understand they angle but I really do agree with Joe 💯💯💯
@@MetaMan09 Joe was wrong. You don’t reach a certain level unless you’re perceived a certain way.
@@reezyvofficial which proves his whole point that our business savvy leaders aren’t Re guarded the way they should be, that’s why he kept sayin that they explanation proves his point
@@MetaMan09these Niggas still don’t understand lmao it’s crazy
Ish always has intelligent points. Its good to have that brother on this show as he rarely makes his points based on his feelings.
He out debates Joe on a very consistent basis and it's frustrating to watch Joe refuse to admit he's wrong.
I like hearing him and ice points fr🙏
he was on the debate team in highschool, it makes sense. he’s used to debating without being biased, which is the whole point of debating. but most ppl argue instead of debate, ppl get too emotionally attached to their opinions, that they’re blinded by logic and all emotion.
@@dimendkai as a capricorn, we think black and white , what’s right and wrong
I see why he put this out. This too much fire to keep locked up.
U gotta watch Surf 2nd episode that shit is hilarious for like 90 minutes straight
“Ohh you’re not understanding my argument”
This man will drive someone crazy lmaoo
This is the greatest argument that’s ever happened on this episode. Ish’s walk off is legendary 😂😂😂🙌🏿🙌🏿
There needs to be a petition for Tsu to stay on this show forever😂🔥
He’s a great contribution
Couldn’t wait for this to drop. Surf can be added for the spice he brings to the table
Now I actually get why Joe didn't introduce him earlier to the pod. Surf knows how to cut through all his bs :D
Surf is perfect for this Podcast.
Nah, the dynamic they already have is perfect. Surf need his own Pod.
Dropping this right before the battle Sunday is huge indirect promo. Whether Joe's or Surf's idea, this is pretty smart.
Word it’s perfect
Its not indirect at all lmao
Its promo lmaoo
@@consistentbuy8988 I'm sayin, they didn't record this pod this week or last week. It was released on Patreon awhile ago.
Putting it on youtube was a good idea for this weekend, is what im sayin
@@KhaosMatador yeah it was good promo he might have known surfs schedule? So maybe he could have kept it until surfs shit came up...
Joes a genius! he doesn’t believe what he argues but knows how to make a pod entertaining, the man is smart👏🏾
Naa he believes what he’s saying, the thing is joes not entirely wrong
Completely agree "DID YOU SAY YEAHHHHH" 😂😂😂😂 the end was crazy
You just explained a troll 😂
I’m from the future. Here’s y’all heads up. Y’all don’t know perspectives🙋🏽♂️
BF Tee Why?
Joe really be trolling his friends into near fist fights for our entertainment
See he really is a great guy
He’s not trolling Joe is making a great point
And it's appreciated otc 😅🤧
He wasn't trolling, he just realized he was dead wrong and tried to change it up
@@easymoney9851 I understood his point. Ish ice and surf also misrepresented Joe’s point as Joe never stated is HOV viewed as an “equal” they added those words
Y’all been dropping fire I’m happy for y’all let’s goooooo
All fax no printer!
Word and floooding the block lol. I done forgot when we drop now, It's like every other day
On that ass like grass for real
Facts tho ! Makes me glad to see when people give this platform the just do it deserves .. Joe and the team is on a crazy run and they really working working .. Anybody that grinds will respect it !!!
Agreeeeed make surf a frequent guest
This has to be top 5 when it comes to conversations in JBP history 💯
Parks does a good job at staying quiet during the touchy topics 😂😂😂😂😂
Cause he knows we dont wanna hear from his ass lmao
He was trying to think of a way to agree with Joe but couldn’t come up with anything.
@@vmac3682 this narrative is so false lol y’all still bitter
@@LilPaycheck lol it was a joke Omarito. Have a sense of humour my boy. You won’t win a prize monitoring you tube comments to defend the guys.
@@vmac3682 nigga you act as if there isn’t a running narrative and as if it was so obvious you was joking
This was pure gold! Shout to Surf for his contribution.. keep educating and inspiring the culture. 🔥
Joe I'm day one.
This is up there!!! Y'all killed it
Surf and ish went crazy
Surf's Mexican theme approach during his face-off with Cortez was priceless.
That toy chihuahua barking at Cortez had me dying. lol
Cortez is not Mexican tho but shit was funny
Cortez does strike as a big gutted rican hanging out in front of the bodega drinking a tall bud in a can while playing dominoes.
I believe in history repeating itself and im guntitles all day..Surf gonna fuck around and take Cortez lite like he did 40 bars lol.Watch.I hope not but im nervous about this Sunday for him.Cortez is still a legend and was smoking shit before Surf was Surf
"Chicoooo" 🤣
@@muhfkajones I died
This might be the most entertaining debate I've seen on TH-cam in a long time 😂 lmao. Keep it coming haha
This might be the best episode in JBP history
that’s a stretch. There are some legendary episodes over the years. This one is very good tho and the conversation was very insightful
You can't be serious
Whats the top 5?
Best episode was when they broke down the Kanye subs on sicko mode
The old mal and rory clips were definitely funnier but this the 2nd episode post them I've listened in entirety (the bdk krs verzus was 1st) because I love battle rap lol
Oh my God! 😮 This episode got SPIIIIICY on the back-end. Joe, you deseve some type of recognition for how truly dedicated to your view you will stand. This guy refuses to budge an inch. He walk up in the White House, sits in the presidents chair, and if he tells himself he’s the new president just like that, BELIEVE we got ourselves a new president. And nobody tellin this man otherwise.
Without Joe being so dedicated to not budging an inch, we wouldn’t get these type of debated though. And sometimes it takes a little raw emotion to drive the point home, and make the listener fully understand
Free Surf🙏🏾👽
Free The Wave
Nah.
😂😂😂😂 the intensity and how mad they are is hilarious!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Joe stop raising Ish’s blood pressure!
🤣🤣🤣 I've never seen Ish like this
@@tabithajones2471 big bruh was in rare form 😂😂
He does that shit on purpose 🤣🤣🤣.
They were on the back of the lady london interview with this one. They were podding for over 5 hours straight and didn't skip a beat! Both were fire and did the content is amazing! Good views and opinions. The JBP is on a run! Lay down or stay down!
Hmmmmmm I didn’t even Notice
WORD !!!
I got the patreon account if y’all want in lol
@@Hendrixxx9427 link
💯
Probably one of my favorite episodes ever, the point Joe was trying to make about black people not getting their just due is an important psychological barrier that needs addressing. "White ice is colder"
Yeah Joe is stuck on race. I think Tyler Perry highly regarded for his accomplishments. There are plenty of black people who are celebrated on a major level.
@@RAMONE1907 You miss the point. Even tho Tyler Perry has built a Hollywood level studio outside of Hollywood, which is unheard of, he’s still seen as the guy that plays Madea. And that’s ridiculous. The man is building an airport for cripes sake… and the first thing you address him as is the guy in a dress. 😐 Same goes for Jay-Z. His mother in law was just saying this a couple months ago. That the well to do white folks have talked about him to her as a former drug dealer rapper, even tho he’s waaaaaaaaaaaaaay past that now, and how they can’t see why Beyonce decided to deal with him.
@@farrellcityking1 That's how you and Joe see him. Also it's not ridiculous to be recognized for your most famous work.
@@RAMONE1907 if you look through his awards in his field, he has not been given his just due. The Emmys and Oscars had to give him honorary awards 20+ years into his career (his first award from any of these institutions) after shutting out his shows and movies for years. He built an empire and still couldn’t be recognized because the people judging, culturally, don’t understand why his movies could be considered good and artistically great.
@@RAMONE1907 No, Tyler Perry is highly regarded. Shit Harvey Weinstein was regarded higher than that man even though he was a foul nigga.
Joe you're wrong, just accept that. Ish & Surf are totally correct. They cracked your muffin my man, & it's okay it happens.
Right lol
They definitely cooked Joe!
He's wrong because he just don't explain his points the best. But what I think he was trying to explain he would've been right.
this the best talk i seen/heard in a VERY long time.. and how intense it got was cleansing
Conversations ft Tsu Surf - one of the Joe’s greatest hits.
But that’s surf song
😂😂😂😂
For musicians this is without a doubt the best and most valuable JBP episode of all time
Facts
10000%. Facts
Better than the Chance episode?
I LOVE this chemistry. Amazing show.
Ish calling Joe out on not owing Mal and Rory respect is CRAZY. I love this dude, man
This the best episode in “I’ll name this podcast later” history!!!!!!
That beat switch tho😭
Joe can never be wrong... shifts angles to suit his view EVERYTIME
every dam time but I love it
Yeah, but this one got me this time, he needed to acknowledge that he was clearly in the wrong. Ish killed his ass.
he really might be a republican lmaooo
You need a person to disagree and have a different opinion it help move the conversation hate joe had to die on the hill tho 😳😬😂
every single time man haha
Surf is really one of the most underrated music artists in the game. Bro music is so fire 🔥 As a fan of him in battle rap too, he should have been on this run he's on, but I understood why he wasn't. This next opponent doesn't even realize how spooky Surf is about to be come Sunday. Shoutout to one of my favorite rappers out right now and my favorite battle rapper besides Ill Will 💯
Nah Cortez knows exactly what he gettin into. Now is what he has on Sunday enough to beat surf? Don’t know. Is surf gonna choke? That’s a valid question too…
@Vado Dacruz stop asking if that man gone choke until it happens and it hasn't happened in his past 3 battles. At some point folks gotta stop bringing that up 🤷🏿♂️ Cor cool but it's nothing he does better than Surf. Period!
Its likey surf gonna choke in this battle he's not gonna take cortez serious..
Surf goin 30 cor
@@qindatrap8098 i would love if that happens.... cor is surf elder if cor go hard he mite can end surf ...if cor get super personal he might can win...
JBP BOYS! - watch Ish @ 2:28:35 vigorously getting out of his chair while pushing the mic away .. all while saying, "Let's bet money on it! How much money you got?! -- That was hilarious at least 6 times over again. Best episode in my opinion !
Needed this episode. Surf would be an amazing addition on the show.
Maaaaaan this episode was riveting 🔥🔥🔥This was one of them. Excellent pod fellas!!
‘We pull up definitions of words and u say it’s wrong ‘😭😭💀
I been waiting for this one; and the ransom one too. Thanks JBP
i love how joe will not give in even tho he's wrong lmaoooo ish cracked a muffin on this one
Ish should be locked up
Bro seriously, that shit was pissin me off lol
"Ohhh you thought I was sayin...." makes me laugh everything Ish corners him
This pod doesn't have enough views... This is a think tank master class.
Big up to Ish, joe... Respect ✊🏾💪🏾
BEST POD YALL EVER HAD AS A TRIO!! GREAT BACK AND FORTH.. VERY ENTERTAINING
Can we admit that the pod is better now w/Ice and Ish than it was with Rory and Mal?
💯💯💯
Still these comments. 🤦♀️
Two different energies! Both good in their own way
Joe with Rory and Mal at the peak of their friendship is the greatest pod of all time. But ish and ice is definitely better than the more recent Rory & Mal episodes.
Nah. Whenever I watch one I realize how much I want to see them with the other. Rory and Mal have a more light hearted comedic pod and The JBP is more of a informative debate show with laughs sprinkled in, and I often feel like they need each other to balance the vibe. I honestly hope they eventually peace it up so we can get a collab with everyone together.
Surf is the Ric Flair of battle rap. He can talk with the best of them and backs it up on that stage when it’s go time
Except wrestling is scripted
@@sityxx1829 and battle rap has groups and people who work in concert together even tho they are battling.
Not really...yea his last 3 were good but he chokes more than he wins.
@@marcusaurelius6873 🧢 . Y’all gotta stop counting debatable battles as clear losses. This narrative that he loses a lot is a terrible take
@@marcusaurelius6873 exactly he's on some Cassidy shit won 1 or 2 battles recently and now supposed to forget the 500 choke ups.
🙌🏾🙌🏾this what I been waiting for! “Bullets in me forever Johnny! Some rounds I still can’t get out”😤
Rounds not bullets my guy
@@wetmoney85 this is a Tsu Surf quote
I have been rocking with the Joe Budden podcast for years. This is one of the best ever! Everyone is hot, yelling and talking shit! Phenomenal!
This is one of the best convo's they have had in a while.
It never ending with the good content,the Joe budden podcast is on fire 🔥
"Now that you mention that, it strengthens my argument."
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joe is hilarious.
It really did tho 💯💯💯
This the one that people been waiting for🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fax
Such a captivating episode, Joe is outstanding at playing devils advocate
semantics
Him saying Websters dictionary is wrong is playing devils advocate too huh
Should do down in the HOF as the best to do it 🤧
“You talk different! And, that’s why them n*ggas be mad at you.”💀
Two things can be right at the same time… both Joe and Ish are right, just on different levels.
Exactly. Joe saying how shit should be, Ish is saying how it is.
@@godbodywoowoo 💯
Yes two things can be right, but Joe is just wrong. He’s trying to spin it into “this is what I’m really asking” all the time when somebody answers his question, and the majority doesn’t side with his view point.
This nigga really said take money out of the equation to try and prove his point, then threw money back in to try and say they were wrong 🤣. I’m never listening to the man who said doubling down on a $100 bet means I owe you $300 if I lose.
The levels of intellect I see is very magnetic. Keep going, there is something in these podcasts that are sparking something.
Damn Joe you the MVP for this one
Been waiting on this drop for a month, ish standing up throwing money on the floor did it for me 😂
THIS WAS GOLD!!!! I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT! THE ENERGY AT THE END IS WHAT WE NEED
This episode was amazing!!!
Love the energy and truth 💜
This pod is hilarious...I got a glimpse of what me and my day ones look like when we get into heated arguments...
💀
Parks sat this one out for the team like a true champ🙌🏿
Best podcast in the worlddddd Craig
Like a true champ? Like a true simp
💯
@@A1beams he's an engineer you goof.
@@frankystrings what’s that got to do with being Joe’s simp?
@@A1beams he's not paid to make opinions. He's there to push buttons.
Battle Rap is like Broadway, Rapping is like Hollywood
Right
I like this analogy
🔥🔥🔥🔥 best analogy
ohhhhhhhh this episode just 50 to 100 percent real quick, luv it here
Joe smiling at the end … he knew exactly what he was doin 😂😂
😂 the way ice looked when Joe spazzed at 2:27:58 got me 💀
I’ve seen enough clips of this episode to know the full will be classic
Faxxx
I'm glad I didn't see any clips. This all new to me lol
@@ARandomDog_ please
where do you see clips
@@mariahasmr9184 everywhere
That ending had me cracking the eff up 😂😂😂🤣 What was Ish taking?? He started shaking and shit 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
That Red Bull
I absolutely love this episode!!! This solidified the new crew, proved that Joe is wrong, and he doesn't have "yes men". I've been waiting for this in the podcast. Collectively, this is entertaining and enlightening.
When Tsu said "im really upset a lil bit" i almost fell out lmaooo
Ish spanked Joe on this 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂... Great episode
Best ending to a podcast y’all had so far 😂
joe is not buggin at all, and surf is always a good listen, free the wave
“When I think about it, if you insert Jay z, it strengthens my point” 😂😂😂 when he said “when I think about it” in this convo he gave them bs! Joe the man yo
This man should not be in prison. He is good at communicating with people and seems to have a good head on his shoulder just wrong company. Someone of his caliber should not be getting caught up and I’m saying that with all the respect for his potential
This was an amazing and informative conversation
This is a classic episode. I’ve had my doubts but joe a God at changing the main point of an argument by bringing similar but different correct point to a different unasked question.
Joe is a master at pulling n evoking emotions out of people to express their points. Forces them to expound and articulate their perspective. Now whether he believes his own points is a different question, makes for interesting podding
Facts. Conversations with polarized points are way more interesting than conversations where people agree. I don't care if it is intentional or accidental, what Joe does works.
Lmaoo now is see why him n taxstone went off
Ice is the best
while Ish and Joe are screaming Ice is like”I will not be raising my blood pressure”😂😂😂🇯🇲
The culture needs Surf ...free da wave
I swear Joe could never lose an argument
“Can we go home!? Can we go home?! Can we go home please?!” LMAOOOOO
It’s really simple: ish is describing things as they are. Joe is describing things as they should be. If I bring billions to the table, who cares if I have a red star on my head or a grill? I’ve demonstrated my value. This is what Kanye was also ranting about. I’m surprised Joe didn’t bring Kanye & Nike’s history as an example to illustrate his point. Ish is right though: You can’t sit at that table if you’re perceived a certain way. Using Jay Z as an example was checkmate.
Message 💎
True, but when you walked through the doors by someone more capable than you, it’s different....
You just explained why Ish was wrong though... Ish saying that you can't show up to a meeting with red star tattoos and a grill but those things are the only reason you got the meeting in the first place... Which goes back to Joe's point about the industry being selective about who they put backing behind... They are actively looking for dummy's... Which is why they put backing behind drill rappers... They aren't the only rappers that generate dollars BUT they generate dollars AND they aren't a threat to the establishment... ISH is talking as if the industry doesn't have options... That's what Joe and Ice are eluding to... The industry doesn't have to ride the drill wave if they don't want to...
Nah this true but not true this doesn’t apply to any other race. Because white people, Chinese, Indian(middle eastern) pull up looking to multiple tables looking exactly how the white American culture perceived them n cartoons or jokes or there fears yet they do the deal. It’s only the black culture that’s judged still on the color of they skin or how they dress or act naturally to define their actions, business, future.
@@theblackmanwholaughs6670 facts
*This came right on time. Makes my decision to wait for 2-3 hours at Lexus instead of getting the loaner much better.*
Lexus ? Yikes
What Lexus you got bro? I just got a 22 NX I’m loving it so far
@@reezorr4869 Lexus is dope broke ninja.
Light flex..smh
CAPPER‼️ HE’S A CAPPER ‼️
Since the podcast started I’ve been waiting for surf to be on here hopefully he does a couple more with you guys & starts his own podcast on your network
Fire episode , one of my faves ,
S/o to TSURF, my boy came a long way
I love this. Keep going, JBP. Y’all let me know who or what y’all get into on Patreon, and its like this informative and entertaining, I’ll get Patreon for this content. Blessings, y’all. 💯
Joe at the end of the episode is so proud of what he made them do
They delve into other topics, certain guests can only be seen on Patreon and it’s a lot of extra content on Patreon def worth it to me
"I've done nothing but invested and making the bloods BIGGER" lmao protect Surf man
This Episode is Legendary Lmaooooo. The four of them work good together 💯
Joe and Ish going at it got me in tears laughing bruh 😂
Bro this is one of the best pods ever
“Pray Fa All The Niggas That Want Black Kings Seen In The Proper Light” 😂 I Love This Point…& It’s Goin Ova Everybody Head
This was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 ish had a hearty breakfast this morning I’m not gon like the battle rap talk was 😴 but the topics COOKED 👏🏾
I might’ve misjudged you Joe, you’re actually very smart. It’s all love because this was very genuine.
I’m curious…. What made u think he wasn’t smart 😂
Joe is intelligent he’s also insane
@@postsniper-7532 Einstein was one of the maddest people to exist. Joes cool.
@@cherellewilliams458 Einstein was only a mad scientist to his peers at the time pushing know intellectual boundaries will do that joe is an illogical unfaltering psycho at points that’s different
@@postsniper-7532 true I see what you’re saying
Most iconic shit joe said at the end “my job here is done” 😂😂😂😂 the art of podcasting
Joe was pretty calm for how heated the debate was😂😂👏🏽
You're just a bigger blood @2:33:50 is CRAZY!! Surf built for poddin
Aye Yo , Surf Is A Less Abrasive Version Of Joe .. The Way He Breaks Down His Thought Is Masterful .. I'd Love Ta Hear This Man Speak Everyday
This episode was fire 🔥 😂😭surf needs to be a regular guest 💯🏄🏿♂️
*guest ❤️
@@AshlyMonet 👍🏾 not writing a paper professor it’s called a typo 😘lol
Hopefully Joe drops the other Patreon episode Surf was in. That was quite possibly a top 5 Pod for them boys. Funnies from start to finish
Tsu: continues to give interview gold and begins to give intimate account of when he was recently shot 5 times, while also juxtaposing his situation with Nipsey’s who was also shot 5 times
Joe: interrupts