The triple global comp is oddly satisfying idk why. Also yeah Dehaka kinda forces you to choose between 2 evils. It's his whole kit, with Adaptation and Tissue Regeneration at 1, you become a tank nuisance that enemies need to focus on, but Adaptation kinda counters being focused on so instead you get more healing. Isolation is just a massive threat for people and he can't be ignored too much if he picks it.
This one actually makes sense as he was picked into a reasonable match up. And with Dehaka not picking him vs strong AAs that can just kite him is an important point to think about. This is great for higher rank plays tho in lower ‘mixed rank’ SL, don’t be afraid to focus the frontline IF you NEED to. I have seen many low rank games where the team will not focus the frontline when Dehaka digs in and gets on the backline - this often leads to trouble for Dehaka players as they can just turn on him while his team dose nothing. Or games where there is a strong frontline player with the damage of 10 assassins and or your teams tank doesn’t have a clue what to do with a tank. In these situation you have to be ready to adapt and break the rules a little. If you are the top player in your team and there is a big skill gap, you need to spoon feed them in the team fight. This is most prominent where teams end up something like: your team 1 plat 4 silver vs 5 gold. Or both teams have a mixed rank but the setup role is distributed unevenly. Note I said only “when you need to” not just in low rank. Pay attention to both teams skills and be ready to play mind games with them. =D
My personal playstyle for Haka uses Feeding Frenzy in conjunction with Enhanced Agility, Ferocious Stalker, and Pack Leader to allow me to catch people on rotation in bushes, and frequently solo kill them. Movement speed plus W slow in conjunction with Q cooldown reduction on aa and aa speed means there are quite a lot of heroes that simply can't get away from you on their own. Also, running down a Lunara is hilariously fun.
I always enjoy watching these and finding out the build I made up myself is one that pro's use as well. Same thing happened last time you did a Pro's Play with Malganis.
Nice to see someone else using the W build, but there are some bad things here. Lets get the R talent out of the discussion, isolation can be good at lvl 20 for tfs but that's ONLY if your team reach lvl 20 in the match, after all is pretty easy to evade it. Lets talk about your lvl 13 talent. In THAT map full of bushes near the objetive and to the lanes your option MUST be Ferocious Stalker to get a bunch of extra damage and slow. Just remember, with that build the more enemies your enemy team killsl, the more you heal. It's also necessary to try to start a TF with full mana because the W build will burn your mana in a tf in 30 seconds, you can stay 1v3 or even 1v5 alive for 30 seconds with adaptation and essence claws at lvl 20, the "Change is survival" is a trap talent because you can heal yourselfe more with essence claws in any situation and you got some extra slow to secure a kill.
Why it is okay to focus tank (2021)? People scold you for attacking tank and are as braindead as ever, demanding that you dive on morales with Raynor/Jaina etc. They are also very hostile when explaining to them why is it bad idea. I know this has been discussed but game has changed since then. Maybe you could expand this topic and make a video about general (ie not hero specific) basic mistakes people do and don't realize it? In some other video you repeatedly said a phrase "the most important thing you should do is NOT die". I really liked that and I live with that mindset ever since. I suppose not even 10% of players below diamond realize they give experience to the enemy team when they die, not to mention all the other disadvantages.
when i see 4 guys top, why im playing so def? i can push 1on1 easy because of my big heal :/ Sonja can never burst u. can someone explain that playstyle?
Number of reasons not to push hard there. First off Sonya definitely out trades you 1v1. W build helps to mitigate a good bit of her dmg if you only trade during W but she still wins if she plays it right and doesn't get Q'd off her spin or into your towers. Plus Dehaka doesn't really push that hard, nothing like a Falstad. Also he probably wants to save his essence for when he Z's into a fight, rather than wasting it to get slightly more push on a fort wall.
@@LiZzZzZArDDDD Her W is just too much damage early game. Have literally played this lane upwards of 100 times. You don't win it unless the Sonya pushes up too far and you pull her to towers, or she is just mechanically bad. Also good Sonya's will wait for you to commit to using your W on their wave before they try to E on yours. Makes it so you have to move out of her minion wave if you want to Q her.
@Pb2kick The sonya mistake you can punish is when she spins on a minion wave without a minion between you and her, that is when you can Q her. But you won’t kill her unless shes wood5 or someone is coming down to gank, so honestly I just keep hitting minions unless it’s a good time to force her to hit the well. The way to play it if she is good, is to go ‘in and out’ remaining safe without pushing the lane to hard as this can make it harder to get soak. Don’t forget you can W E in a minion wave doing damage safely as well waiting for the optimal moment to Q her giving you another safe window to W on a wave. If she comes for you with the boom boom boom just run lol! No seriously move in a direction that will make that boom miss the minion wave if she want to hit you with it, don’t give her the best of both. Running behind her can be a good strategy if you have vision (not gona get ganked). Remember if she is after you she’s not killing the minions and if she is killing the minions make it so she has to choose what she wants to do by getting in to a position where you can possibly Q her and make her feel uncomfortable. If she is coming after you then that is less time she has to do structure damage as the minions waves start to cancel each other out. It’s like playing Murky, you have to make them choose, kill the puffer fish and get inked, or don’t kill the puffer, take no damage but watch the minions vanish. It’s just hard with sonya due to the amount of damage she can do. Use the bush! But above all if an objective is about to spawn don’t risk your health bar or essence. If she is on your walls out pushing you, save your Q for when shes damaging your towers to reduce the structure damage she can do - while hitting the minions to clear them faster as killing her is unlikely with Dehaka.
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so that's why the pros play dehaka
Cool to see some Dehaka coverage, been enjoying watching Liam play it this season!
The triple global comp is oddly satisfying idk why. Also yeah Dehaka kinda forces you to choose between 2 evils. It's his whole kit, with Adaptation and Tissue Regeneration at 1, you become a tank nuisance that enemies need to focus on, but Adaptation kinda counters being focused on so instead you get more healing. Isolation is just a massive threat for people and he can't be ignored too much if he picks it.
This one actually makes sense as he was picked into a reasonable match up. And with Dehaka not picking him vs strong AAs that can just kite him is an important point to think about.
This is great for higher rank plays tho in lower ‘mixed rank’ SL, don’t be afraid to focus the frontline IF you NEED to. I have seen many low rank games where the team will not focus the frontline when Dehaka digs in and gets on the backline - this often leads to trouble for Dehaka players as they can just turn on him while his team dose nothing. Or games where there is a strong frontline player with the damage of 10 assassins and or your teams tank doesn’t have a clue what to do with a tank. In these situation you have to be ready to adapt and break the rules a little. If you are the top player in your team and there is a big skill gap, you need to spoon feed them in the team fight. This is most prominent where teams end up something like: your team 1 plat 4 silver vs 5 gold. Or both teams have a mixed rank but the setup role is distributed unevenly.
Note I said only “when you need to” not just in low rank. Pay attention to both teams skills and be ready to play mind games with them. =D
Quickly becoming my favorite tank.
My personal playstyle for Haka uses Feeding Frenzy in conjunction with Enhanced Agility, Ferocious Stalker, and Pack Leader to allow me to catch people on rotation in bushes, and frequently solo kill them. Movement speed plus W slow in conjunction with Q cooldown reduction on aa and aa speed means there are quite a lot of heroes that simply can't get away from you on their own. Also, running down a Lunara is hilariously fun.
If people in qm saw a dehaka sitting there ,like in this pro game, you’d just get shit for soaking.
Feeling it XD OMG AFK REPORT lol!!
I always enjoy watching these and finding out the build I made up myself is one that pro's use as well. Same thing happened last time you did a Pro's Play with Malganis.
Thanks for your videos!
Will try those tips today. Thanks!
great video!!!!
Nice to see someone else using the W build, but there are some bad things here.
Lets get the R talent out of the discussion, isolation can be good at lvl 20 for tfs but that's ONLY if your team reach lvl 20 in the match, after all is pretty easy to evade it.
Lets talk about your lvl 13 talent. In THAT map full of bushes near the objetive and to the lanes your option MUST be Ferocious Stalker to get a bunch of extra damage and slow. Just remember, with that build the more enemies your enemy team killsl, the more you heal.
It's also necessary to try to start a TF with full mana because the W build will burn your mana in a tf in 30 seconds, you can stay 1v3 or even 1v5 alive for 30 seconds with adaptation and essence claws at lvl 20, the "Change is survival" is a trap talent because you can heal yourselfe more with essence claws in any situation and you got some extra slow to secure a kill.
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Why it is okay to focus tank (2021)? People scold you for attacking tank and are as braindead as ever, demanding that you dive on morales with Raynor/Jaina etc. They are also very hostile when explaining to them why is it bad idea.
I know this has been discussed but game has changed since then. Maybe you could expand this topic and make a video about general (ie not hero specific) basic mistakes people do and don't realize it? In some other video you repeatedly said a phrase "the most important thing you should do is NOT die". I really liked that and I live with that mindset ever since. I suppose not even 10% of players below diamond realize they give experience to the enemy team when they die, not to mention all the other disadvantages.
wtf 20k you mean above what I make by 15k
when i see 4 guys top, why im playing so def? i can push 1on1 easy because of my big heal :/ Sonja can never burst u. can someone explain that playstyle?
Number of reasons not to push hard there. First off Sonya definitely out trades you 1v1. W build helps to mitigate a good bit of her dmg if you only trade during W but she still wins if she plays it right and doesn't get Q'd off her spin or into your towers. Plus Dehaka doesn't really push that hard, nothing like a Falstad. Also he probably wants to save his essence for when he Z's into a fight, rather than wasting it to get slightly more push on a fort wall.
@@Zoggosh yeah, save essence when u think TF / Event is coming. When u still lane, its fast rdy for a heal again in my opinion.
@Pb2kick how? When she goes for a whirlfind, u can interrupt her. So she gets no heal then. The w have short range and u have aoe. Hmmm
@@LiZzZzZArDDDD Her W is just too much damage early game. Have literally played this lane upwards of 100 times. You don't win it unless the Sonya pushes up too far and you pull her to towers, or she is just mechanically bad. Also good Sonya's will wait for you to commit to using your W on their wave before they try to E on yours. Makes it so you have to move out of her minion wave if you want to Q her.
@Pb2kick The sonya mistake you can punish is when she spins on a minion wave without a minion between you and her, that is when you can Q her. But you won’t kill her unless shes wood5 or someone is coming down to gank, so honestly I just keep hitting minions unless it’s a good time to force her to hit the well.
The way to play it if she is good, is to go ‘in and out’ remaining safe without pushing the lane to hard as this can make it harder to get soak. Don’t forget you can W E in a minion wave doing damage safely as well waiting for the optimal moment to Q her giving you another safe window to W on a wave.
If she comes for you with the boom boom boom just run lol! No seriously move in a direction that will make that boom miss the minion wave if she want to hit you with it, don’t give her the best of both. Running behind her can be a good strategy if you have vision (not gona get ganked).
Remember if she is after you she’s not killing the minions and if she is killing the minions make it so she has to choose what she wants to do by getting in to a position where you can possibly Q her and make her feel uncomfortable. If she is coming after you then that is less time she has to do structure damage as the minions waves start to cancel each other out.
It’s like playing Murky, you have to make them choose, kill the puffer fish and get inked, or don’t kill the puffer, take no damage but watch the minions vanish. It’s just hard with sonya due to the amount of damage she can do. Use the bush!
But above all if an objective is about to spawn don’t risk your health bar or essence.
If she is on your walls out pushing you, save your Q for when shes damaging your towers to reduce the structure damage she can do - while hitting the minions to clear them faster as killing her is unlikely with Dehaka.
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Damn it Notparadox I was winning a lot in Plat! Now everyone is gonna ban him and pick him a lot 🤣
LOL pros playing stitches ? You kidding me ?