WoW Cataclysm Guide - Warlock Guide Part 2 - Demonology (ft. Optec)

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  • / optec - This video series features Optec who has his own TH-cam channel. Check him out and subscribe.
    This is the second of four parts of a comprehensive Warlock guide covering all 3 specs, rotations, glyphs and various other gubbins. I will be working with experts on guides for other classes over the coming weeks. This guide covers Demonology.

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  • @KimmoKM
    @KimmoKM 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome series.These videos serve as an excellent newbie-friendly guide to new talents and abilities, and should give a good idea about class mechanics to those who haven't decided what class they want to play as. This will be my number one resource to point such players to.
    In addition, the videos give a good idea about how OTHER classes work in Cataclysm. I'm familiar with warlocks, but I learned a lot watching the mage-video, and will probably continue to do so with future ones. Thank you.

  • @falloutninja546
    @falloutninja546 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    OK is now my favorite commentator ever. Warlocks are my fav class and him doing them first (second technically) makes me really happy. TB keep doing what you are doing :D

  • @Feniks9174
    @Feniks9174 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI, Demon Armor is great for range tanking bosses or keeping on yourself while soloing. We also used it on Dreamwalker by having the Holy Paladin Beacon the boss and heal the warlock with Demon Armor on for a 20%(?) boost to healing.
    For pure DPS you'll never use it, but it does see situational use.

  • @lolgina
    @lolgina 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that you group your videos into playlists. Wish everybody would do this.

  • @Hyldegarda
    @Hyldegarda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope you rest in piece

  • @sorcereo
    @sorcereo 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an interesting take on demonology, I'd love to try this once Cataclysm hits. Oh and for all you other awesome warlocks who roll with demons:
    /cast [nochanneling] Hellfire
    /cancelaura [channeling] Hellfire
    There's your hellfire macro... click-on, click-off... simple.

  • @roy9th
    @roy9th 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    The WotLK Demo rotation for me was Curse of Elements > Immolate > Corruption > Shadowbolt spam > when Molton core proced use 3 Incinerates (keep Immolate up to increase Incinerate's damage) > repeat until Decimation proced > Pop Metamorphosis > Soul Fire spam until target dies > recharge dots when needed (Keep Corruption up cause in Wrath, it was THAT spell that proced Molton Core, and at the time Molten Core affect Soul Fire too)
    In Cata, the rotation is the same, and is still insane dps >:)

  • @DarkGrif
    @DarkGrif 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another good addon to track debuffs that I use is NeedtoKnow. Displays a nice sized bar, it's nothing fancy mind you, that tells you duration of debuffs and buffs on you and you can changed the colors of the bars to your liking. NOt sure if it works for proc buffs but I haven't really tried.

  • @Paulyfr3sh
    @Paulyfr3sh 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you TB for showing the warlock class spec. I appreciate it.

  • @daokine
    @daokine 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 question: what addons do you use to get a toolbar above the toolbar and the demon bar appart? BTW excellent video! I learned a lot.

  • @tsenzei
    @tsenzei 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty good stuff, for the most part. There's a lot of choice at rank 2 and 3 in Demonology. I like Master Summoner, personally, it combines well with Demonic rebirth, but it is more of a PvP or convenience talent. Health Funnel was overlooked in this video, and I understand why, but I think it is a bit under-rated in PvE. I'd rather spend a few seconds healing a pet than a few seconds re-summoning one that will have lost it's buffs, though again, it is more of a PvP talent, or for leveling.

  • @CoinsJR
    @CoinsJR 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi i was just wondering where do u get that cooldown timer? i was looking for 1 like that for a while still could not find it. Ps: i liked your vids good job :D

  • @radioactivechikin
    @radioactivechikin 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been playing beta as a warlock and tried out all 3 specs, which seem to be equally viable. however, i've been using fel flame a lot to refresh the duration of immolate and unstable affliction in destruction and affliction, respectively. i haven't bothered to use corruption on demonology since it doesnt proc molten core anymore but i don't have any numbers to know if that's really more effecient. all in all, good 2 videos, thanks totalbiscuit and optec, looking foward to affliction's one.

  • @cynicalbrit
    @cynicalbrit  14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @wvsp2 Nobody said it did. It has an AoE effect.

  • @MrStezzaBoy
    @MrStezzaBoy 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    about to replay WoW, what's a premade character? and where did you get one?

  • @SheffiTB
    @SheffiTB 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @EasyEproductions9 hes on the WoW cata beta, not a private server, since private servers are illegal. The beta is a test server in which they show content that is still heavily under development to have a larger amount of people to test the content on.

  • @thedoomtrout
    @thedoomtrout 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, I find Hand of Gul'dan VERY useful in PvE combat as it adds a nice DoT effect, which is a warlock's best friend aside from the pets, as well as a small AoE effect. Very handy when dealing with a rooted boss that can spawn mobs on itself. I find that Saurfang in ICC provides a nice example, not rooted really, but the tank can keep him in one spot and it hits all the bloodbeasts as soon as they spawn, so that's nice.

  • @TheVarras
    @TheVarras 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your vids man
    are you gonna put up a vid on different hunter speccs? i have a hunter and cant figure out what to do on it. Just a question not a request

  • @stewnog
    @stewnog 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like the random whisper of: "Are you Totalhalibut??"
    you can almost hear him screaming "omgomgomgomg!" on the other side of the internet.

  • @Tiamat951
    @Tiamat951 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you please add a description for the Addon mods that you use in the description box? I'd love to know what they are. :)

  • @Spetaelsk
    @Spetaelsk 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as always, just wanted to say that i once used Demon armor in PvE. It was when I was tanking Mimirons head. :)

  • @lperez3000
    @lperez3000 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is why i switched to destruction spec
    but demonology has always caught my attention so when i can play as goblin my goblin will be demonology warlock
    hopefully it wont be so complicated if i start from level one so i can slowly learn to play pro demo warlock

  • @Nocure92
    @Nocure92 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks TB & Optec, this will be useful for me since I am going to play my lock again in cata :)

  • @Arkz5
    @Arkz5 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always interesting to see someone play your class that isn't overly familiar with it...New perspective for sure.
    Needs more Bane of Doom though! :p

  • @sunbabybull
    @sunbabybull 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    is rain of fire still there? i used to spam that all the time.

  • @Cresitan258
    @Cresitan258 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Master Summoner does come in handy..say you're almost out of mana in a dungeon and your pet dies and you want it back..you can summon it without ANY cost(other than time) I find it useful

  • @Alxzanderthegreat
    @Alxzanderthegreat 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the Demon guid :D Gotta fix my rotaion around a bit!

  • @MrKnightWings
    @MrKnightWings 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TheSolitary12 idd, cause it counts as your pets dps which doesn't take any cast time to lower your dps, only increases it incredibly much on AOE packs if you pop hand of gul'dan, Felstorm, Demon Form, Demonic Leap, Immolation Aura and Hellfire. an u'll be hitting about 20k dps on aoe packs in randoms =)

  • @SpiderWevs
    @SpiderWevs 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using Felstorm at every cooldown, increases the dps done?

  • @Clerkz
    @Clerkz 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this Optec fella. Great guide!

  • @JinxMarionette
    @JinxMarionette 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do have a question for Demonology Warlocks, being a Destruction Warlock. I've always wondered if Banish works on a Warlock using Metamorphosis? Because I do know that Banish works on Demons also, but I've never been able to apply it to other Warlocks.

  • @vmntmn
    @vmntmn 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    is this a good spec for people who want to do lots of pvping?

  • @seth7733
    @seth7733 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should start the rotation: Soulfire, hand of G, then immolate and corruption, then shadowbolt spam imo.

  • @MrIsowin
    @MrIsowin 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the Hand of Gul'dan, I've never found it doing any kind of aoe damage and if you read the tooltip closely, you can read that it deals "X amount of damage to the enemy TARGET and THEN erupts an aura", wich sounds to me like it damages 1 target first and then drops an aura wich increases demon crit. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @JustaLuni
    @JustaLuni 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    awsome, are you doing each class?

  • @km9873
    @km9873 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    what addons do you have for the damage an casting bar?

  • @MoonWolf014
    @MoonWolf014 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have to ask, have any of you had problems keeping the soul sife haste buff up in destro spec? i kept trying to renew it once it got down to like 1-3 secs left and it would just drop off and it wouldnt be put back up for awhile no matter how many times i hit it with soulfire

  • @narutofanere
    @narutofanere 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the addon at the bottom for the mana bar when you are casting a spell

  • @FortisConscius
    @FortisConscius 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    And there I was thinking that Demonology was _less_ intense, and that the pet does more of the work... Oh, this looks much more interesting than I imagined.

  • @MissChloehoeh
    @MissChloehoeh 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much. I have been wanting to try demonology but couldn't find anyone willing to help me out with the rotation. :)

  • @GuyN0ir
    @GuyN0ir 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    That aure of foreboding combined with the felguard's abilities just wrecks in pvp. A lock killed me in seconds with it.

  • @Gerojsk
    @Gerojsk 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you planning on doing this about warriors & shamans?

  • @awilliams1701
    @awilliams1701 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm impressed with just how much dps i can do in this spec without doing anything at all. Hellfire alone does some pretty decent dps.

  • @GuyN0ir
    @GuyN0ir 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very good.
    Can't wait for a druid guide ^.^

  • @Squish888
    @Squish888 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guest has such a gentle relaxing voice he sounds like he should be hosting a painting show...."and tiny gentle strokes on the canvas...just.....like......that....*heavy breathing*".

  • @minamitakayama
    @minamitakayama 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this series, hope to see more soon :)

  • @narutofanere
    @narutofanere 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I meant the bit where the spell casting time is just above the action bar. When casting a spell the action bar fills up until the time is finished

  • @Brandolupa
    @Brandolupa 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    ah TB you dont like demo?
    its my locks MS and the sheer madding hell of it is why i like it
    :D
    that said i dont like my pally now b/c of its complexity lol
    another great vid, and great series of guides! i've been looking forward to these since the mage guides came out.
    keep up the great work!

  • @fedas15
    @fedas15 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't see why you guys would take Aura of Foreboding (a root) over Demonic Aegis, as IMO, getting healed for more from the Fel Armor can actually be helpful during boss fights compared to a root. Just my opinion though.
    Fel armor is 2% health every 5 seconds, 4% health every 5 seconds with 2 points in the talent.
    Or you could always drop Demonic Empowerment and another point from Demonic Embrace...

  • @MrBizhop545
    @MrBizhop545 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    what was the spell with mushrooms behind u

  • @GeekyHan714
    @GeekyHan714 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Demonology looks interesting.
    The only way the instant cast pet revive would be good for PvE is if your dealing with like a few mobs at once, and the pet nibs some aggro then dies.

  • @xxsnipehshotxx
    @xxsnipehshotxx 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    is that pvp gear or arena gear ur wearing???? SOMEONE TELL ME!!!

  • @ArchanorX
    @ArchanorX 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you're talking about the 3 shard thingies its not an addon its the warlock thingy in game :)

  • @SheffiTB
    @SheffiTB 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @TotalHalibut Do you by any chance know an expert on shamans? Shamans have always been my favourite class and the only one that I could stand leveling to 80 (me being an alt-aholic). With 4.0.1 the new spells and talents for them have got me, so if you could please make a guide about shamans that would be great.
    Love your vids, keep em up.

  • @GuyN0ir
    @GuyN0ir 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:40 "Are you totalhalibut lawl??"
    If you seen anyone with total in their name, it is always TB.

  • @albelnox5454
    @albelnox5454 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont get the ad, haven't gotten youtube ads in months

  • @dahblackness
    @dahblackness 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanx for this vid cus im restarting on w.o.w but i didnt know really how to build a good non pvp warlock

  • @gonetomars3697
    @gonetomars3697 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    With raid buffs, hand of guldan aura, felstorm, metamorphosis up, immolation aura, and hellfire, I have done well over 30k dps on size able aoe packs.

  • @yinyangjumper
    @yinyangjumper 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    what addons ur using?

  • @Selvalis
    @Selvalis 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    man total, you are hilarious as a warlock, ive working on a lock alt but i love these vids, as hilarious as these are i actualy am gettign alot out of this, also if you want help doing a DK video i can help you out alot, since my main and specialty is the DK

  • @Tenuto123
    @Tenuto123 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @roshthedestroyer I was playing on live the other day as demonology. On the Sindragosa trash I hit 80k dps as demonology, using hellfire,immolation aura and felstorm(felguard ability).

  • @mntuka17
    @mntuka17 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Thrallpwn rlly i use /show recount
    or was it /recount show one of those two

  • @SSHayden
    @SSHayden 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard Doomguard is back strong again!! Is it true??! TB whats up with him?

  • @ryujio85
    @ryujio85 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    at first i was looking forward to cataclysm but i havent played my wow account for 2 months and not due to a conscious decision but because i just have no interest. So now im thinking new vegas and black ops will keep me much more entertained.

  • @xenoblad
    @xenoblad 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @GriloxAus
    Yea I also see it. I don't think advertisements are 100% in the controll of the video poster cause I highly doubt total would condone gold seller advertising in any video he helped make.

  • @Dziekan765
    @Dziekan765 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't that pointless to spam shadowbolt instead of Incinerate with that build? Incinerate have a little less, but comparable damage as shadowbolt and have less casting time so imho its better for your dps.

  • @kontakostyler
    @kontakostyler 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Tiamat951 He has them on his youtube page.

  • @roshthedestroyer
    @roshthedestroyer 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can imagine that being pretty epic aoe, i would love to see the numbers since right up till this evening i had been running about claiming that frost death knights were the kings of aoe.

  • @StealthBlackHand
    @StealthBlackHand 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine you set up hand of gul'dan first, pop metamorphosis, send your fel guard in, activate immolation aura while being at range then hitting all targets with shadowflame and then casting hellfire while activating the felguards felstorm. This is quite high aoe dps.

  • @trashtatur
    @trashtatur 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I once used demon armor in the Valithiria Dreamwalker encounter because the healers healed me and the dragon was healed too by that with some glyph...I dont really know but in this case the demon armor was very good indeed.

  • @xDraedon
    @xDraedon 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Dziekan765 Unless they have changed it around now, i havent tested, but shadow bolt gains a greater boost from your spellpower, grants the 5% crit bonus, and also costs less mana :)

  • @j800r
    @j800r 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    @mackmusicandgames They're not for the faint hearted. There's a lot of things to keep an eye on and if you miss a step you risk getting your arse handed to you. That being said, if you're ready for it, the rewards are plentiful and you can achieve MASSIVE dps.

  • @Thrallpwn
    @Thrallpwn 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    dear total, i noticed you thought your recount was broke i notice dyou didnt type the enabling command correctly, the correctw ay is /recount toggle :) just hought to let you know so you don't think its broke :)

  • @Magnum337Gaming
    @Magnum337Gaming 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    15:45 Tealiah whispers: are you totalhalibut lawl? xD

  • @totiredtowrite
    @totiredtowrite 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    hope Tb does the shammy talents soon. ive been having problems with elem in live

  • @pandemonic01
    @pandemonic01 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Thrallpwn he did type /recount though, which should have brought up a list of options

  • @Muck006
    @Muck006 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like some smart macroing is in order to handle the procs and cooldowns.

  • @SirusEinzla
    @SirusEinzla 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Lev8300 No, if you go Demo, Hellfire is your AoE

  • @flurble33
    @flurble33 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @iQligt The guides are for classes not individual specs.

  • @TheControIFreak
    @TheControIFreak 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    the armor talent would be handy when you need to be an off off tank min ICC for the Council but that about it but a good party prob have a 3rd tank with a dps ms or os for that fight though I heard that warlocks are the absolute best for that fight.

  • @SirusEinzla
    @SirusEinzla 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Lev8300 but with the need talent in the Demo tree, you can move around while channeling it

  • @aule10
    @aule10 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Atheocracy i dont c your point sry i know its not all typed well but when i read it i can make sense to it not my problem if you have nothing good to say then say nothing. if we have to use sayings

  • @Kewlucas
    @Kewlucas 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    ABOUT THE AD TB"Now I've said this once already but I'll repeat it just for effect. People need to start reading my bulletins. I've put up an email address there to report the URLs of these ads. Once I have a list I am going to instruct TH-cam to block them. Apparently they are willing to do that, but I have to go through some process to make that happen.
    Just to make it clear. I do NOT place goldselling ads on my videos and I do NOT endorse any kind of service like that. I want em gone."

  • @xxsnipehshotxx
    @xxsnipehshotxx 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    someone tell me how his shadow bolt cast is 2 seconds.. please som1!!

  • @rosenrot234
    @rosenrot234 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    brits talking about my favorite class to play? fuck yes.

  • @imagnome123
    @imagnome123 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    very true warlocks are quite hard to play, the horrble fact is you can easily get tunnel vision and start spamming your filler spell and utterly forget about your dots, then you get flustered trying to reaplly them and you end up standing in the fire = dead, i dont recommend warlocks for anyone who isnt good at keeping track of multiple things at once

  • @Gerrardo10
    @Gerrardo10 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know you people could care less, but for sure demon locks are the best aoe class in the game, did 44,8k dps on trash before dreamwalker on live with frost badge gear mostly.

  • @BrendanBeckett
    @BrendanBeckett 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Feniks9174 But overhealing doesn't work for Beacon so.......

  • @ALF1996xx
    @ALF1996xx 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone notice that demon form gives you enough armor to tank and makes raid bosses not crit you? why is that?

  • @phwoar
    @phwoar 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't wait till he does feral druid priority algorithm XD! :)

    • @75338
      @75338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too complicated head explode.

  • @01talima
    @01talima 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    at his hp pool demonic aegis talent amounts to an extra 17k hp a min gained with fel armour, so with talent total of 34k hp a min in these healer mana matters days id say thats a pretty good talent myself

  • @KaptainKa
    @KaptainKa 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    @riddleprofessor If he had recount on, it would have listed all of the possible commands for recount when he typed /recount. He just got an error, so the addon wasn't even enabled.

  • @ryshun80
    @ryshun80 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love all these videos, so can the next guide you do druids? cause i am planning for making a troll druid for cata. and i know how much you like trolls. if you can thanks

  • @GloriaTortorella
    @GloriaTortorella 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, really useful and funny :D

  • @ThePedofileBear
    @ThePedofileBear 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn't Blizzard announced that hellfire won't do damage to you ?

  • @shadowkeeper345
    @shadowkeeper345 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    i tanked a huge pull when tank died in metamorphosis so the armor is pretty good

  • @xxsnipehshotxx
    @xxsnipehshotxx 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    SOM1 PLEASE TELL ME HOW HE HAS 109k HEALTH>> IM A LV 32 warlock and lv 80 warlocks have like 36k health.. i know hes 85 but how does he instantly have 109k health. how much does his gear cost like 3k gold?>

  • @Nasgoroth
    @Nasgoroth 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Demonology warlocks are the most powerfull aoe casters in the game'
    Damn right !

  • @guglecwoki
    @guglecwoki 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    tyvm for this guide. cheers

  • @WarWaffles
    @WarWaffles 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Class and My Spec =) I hope you do Hunters next well thanks aton TB Keep them up and dont Quit again Thanks