BLACK MIRROR Season 6: BEYOND THE SEA Ending Explained & Every Easter Egg Revealed
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- I review, breakdown and explain Black Mirror Season 6 Episode 3 Beyond The Sea Netflix. I discuss the story about Aaron Paul and Josh Hartnett in space as Cliff and David and all of the hidden easter eggs. I react to the technology which is called ‘The Link’ which has replicas on earth, the morality behind if they’re human and the ending which was so powerful. I also give my theories and predictions on how it connects to the other episodes in the show.
00:00 Intro
00:35 The Ending
05:11 The Easter Eggs
06:33 Overall Review
08:13 Outro
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What did you think of Beyond The Sea? I feel like it definitely had a White Christmas feel to it. Comment your thoughts below!
Definitely one of the best season 6 episodes along with demon79 IMO. The worst is by far mazey day
Aaron Paul had to do (and did convincingly) 3 parts: Human Self, Robot Self, and Robot Crewmate.
I thought so too. Very, VERY strong episode!
why didnt they put the machines in space
Great episode. One of my favorite of the whole series.
This episode truly embodied the saying ”Misery loves company”.
I loved this episode! It did not end how I thought it would ... I totally thought up until the end, David would kill Cliff in space and go back down and pretend to be him and live a life with Lana. Fun fact: This was Aaron Paul's second episode of Black Mirror ... as he was the voice in the spaceship at the end of USS Callister
Fr I thought they were going to fight - but the winner is never shown - then Aaron’s replica on Earth would be walking around and we’re left to wonder who he really is.
@@firstlast9846 True, after he got obsessed with his wife I thought this would be inevitable the outcome, plus points from my side to then pull the carpet under my feet 😂
Same, it was an incredible twist! As soon as the door went green though I was like "Oh no..."
nah its a two man ship they coupdnt kill each other
@@himothy9871 they could, since one lost everything and after the end we have two that lost everything. Why stay alive ?
I mean why keep the job that brought you in this situation in the first place 😂
Wow I never knew I could hate Josh Hartnett’s character so much. He was the good husband with a happy family, so it was so devastating to watch him act so selfish. I couldn’t believe David would do such a thing when Cliff went out of his way to do him a huge favor. I think we all thought David was going to kill Cliff to hijack his life on earth, but I remembered they need each other alive for the mission. David knew Cliff couldn’t do anything. David kicking out that chair was so powerful like it meant: “now we’re on the same boat.” It just hurts a lot more since Cliff had nothing to do with the death of David’s family.
The killing of Cliff's family at the hands of David was the most logical conclusion to the plot giving all the events that led up to it.
David is not a villain in this story. Both David and Cliff are victims of their own ego and circumstances.
It's a tragic story but it's a logical tragedy.
It's also poetic because Cliff will now feel the pain that David feels.
The point is not to hate either of the characters but for the audience to empathize with both of them.
Ya it left the same horrible feeling that White Christmas left, though not quite so horrible. White Christmas is the worst fate imaginable i couldnt get out of my head. People were all so cruel in that.
@@0eloquency0yeah I agree . I know cliff was mad but he messed up by sayin his wife said he hated him etc etc. David said to him you don’t know what you have and you don’t understand what I’ve lost. If cliff did understand , he would know not to say all that to him but his ego and lack of empathy came into play. It was very apparent that cliff kinda felt bad for David but didn’t care enough to truly come up with a plan. 1 hour each week is terrible. If cliff truly cared he’d understand that circumstances have changed and maybe he should use his body more often. They could’ve discussed him going out and talking to a different woman and establishing two lives through one person but Cliff didn’t want to give up his privilege .When he lied about what his wife said It proved cliff didn’t understand and the only way for him too understand is for him to suffer the same fate
Can we talk about the acting? I loved all of the actor's performance in the role! Glad Aaron Paul is in this episode!
Yeah Aaron Paul was phenominal!
Right?? I kept forgetting it is still him in both parts because it was so easy to tell which “one” is him at the time. Without being overly telling, only his small gestures and body position etc. Amazing!
I was convinced Aaron Paul was a different person when he was the josh Hartnett version of himself! Also whatever happened to Joshua hartnett? Glad to see him back!
What's frustating is that this can all be avoided if the robots at earth were given backups as well as security. I mean how can the government not foresee an event where one of robots malfunction or got destroyed? Surely having a backup is important. Not to mention providing some security on their house is the least they can do to these "men"
Or maybe send the robots in space
A government that does reactionary things instead of preventative things makes complete sense to me. There was a time when presidents didn't have security because they couldn't foresee one would be shot.
If they will do so there won't be any story to tell right
@@marius4iasi You can lose communication with the robots, and then the mission will be a failure.
@@marius4iasi honestly 😭😭
Josh Hartnett hasn't lost his psycho touch. His performance was phenomenal.
actually josh will be dead soon. an apt punishment for this banal drivel that he created. total garbage. what is wrong with you?
There are at least 2 Breaking Bad Easter Eggs: Aaron paul measuring purity level of air, and him playing with an insect in his hands.
Ooh nice true
@@masonmurphy4978 93 percent purity yo
This is the only episode I am telling people to watch from this season. This is an Oscar winning performance for the acting, directing and cinematography. I absolutely loved this episode!
Yeah Aaron Paul was phenominal!
I thought demon 78 was pretty good. Felt like this episode was kind of goofy, like why send the astronauts to space when they can just control the spaceship remotely from earth💀
@@edwing72 or... why not send the replicas to space and have the real humans be on earth? since they practically have the same capabilities. Then just have their human selves report to their replicas in space when there's an alert or something needs repairs.
@@Sydwiz9999 you missed the point of them going to space. it was a HUMAN experiment not replicas. Sending replicas to space would have been pointless.
@@jeremymcpoggerton When did it ever say it was a human experiment? As far as I know they were just on a space mission
Here we go! My episode of the season, which is rare for me because the longer ones per season don't usually end up that way for me. Aaron Paul was undoubtedly sensational with this role. The shock of Ross' family being killed in front of him set a tone, from there it felt as though we were going to get a story where Ross tries and successfully steals the identity and lives his life in his friends shoes. Instead what we got was something darker I genuinely did not expect, they created such a strong narrative of desiring the life I had not anticipated the result. Moment the airlock opened you had a sense of dread as to what Ross had done. Really happy Brooker hit his mark this season
Well put! Totally agree on every point. As a viewer, you really did feel like David was going to try and pass himself off as Cliff, but it was far worse. Rory Culkin smashed his small appearance as well. He was pure evil and it was very convincing! It's definitely up there with the likes of White Christmas in terms of the feeling that it tried to give you, and it succeeded!
@@BrainPilot very white Christmas esque ending, potentially the best ending comparison to make for it. One point I forgot to include but recall since is the ending, the ending shot of Cliff just staring at David with a look of both rage and distress, it then pans out, that not knowing of what Cliff will do, if anything to David sticks with me
As for the writing, it still didn't make sense for David to do that. Any sense, the kid also? Doesn't make sense. Even if mentally ill. They had to foreshadow/prepare that better. It was a cheap ending, because it was just for shock-value.
@@carlosadurt6153 I think it did tbh, Cliff had told David that his wife was repulsed by him, his mind was already all over the place following the aftermath of his family, this new situation being conflicted over Lana, I think the whole idea that he had a family who he loved deeply was killed, seeing Cliff not cherish his in the same way pushed him over, why should he have what he couldn't. Idk, maybe I'm reaching a bit there in parts, it was a shock because as I said myself I didn't see it coming, but as a retrospective it makes sense
I feel like I’m still struggling with the idea that since neither one of them had anything left to live for why even bother carrying on with the mission? Maybe some kind of element of this mission needed to save the entirety of the earth or something would create more of a sense of “they need to live”
I believe Rory Culkin’s hippie cult leader role was based off of Charles Manson. I’m surprised no one brought that up.
Also a reference to '2001: A Space Odyssey' when David locked Cliff outside just like HAL in the film and the red light on the door mirroring the red light of HAL. Both took place in space too of course.
I honestly thought David would have went off somewhere in the replica, I did NOT expect that ending. Whooo!! It was so good and so sad.
This is a CERTIFIED Black Mirror episode. Right up there with National Anthem, Shut Up and Dance, White Christmas- you know, the classics. I get the feeling that a lot of Black Mirror episodes emphasize that technology is the problem when in reality, the people are the problem. The twist was extremely bleak and I loved it.
Can I just mention how scared I was when the fingering song played for the second time? 🤣 Like I was thinking Lana was about to go to the moon and back, but I applaud her for being a stern and faithful wife 🙌
How was she faithful in any way 😂😂 she was dancing with him and didn’t even tell Clint what they did
This felt like the only Black Mirror-ey episode with a brutal torture like ending, he can't kill him since the ship is a two man operation and he would doom himself. So he must endure him for 4 more years at least, brutal.
@@bingbung9687 She only dance with him because for a moment she felt like that's her husband. She pushed him away once she realised what their doing. But yeah she lied anyways.
@@thee_morpheus it makes me wonder if it would be worth letting him sleep with Lana? Because you do it once, but when does it stop? It's a tricky situation with no happy ending in sight, regardless of the scenario.
Unhinged and damaged people will always hurt those around them; I think that's what the message was.
@@Xgil2Play What are you on about letting him do that. Thats his wife
They say misery likes company but its hard to imagine someone wanting to put someone else in the same hell especially a friend and a way out of the nightmare.
Unfortunately, Cliff's wife (Kate Mera) is somewhat of a typecast actress, the moment I saw her I knew she was either going to be twisted and have an affair or die, she always has that role. I think an error in the casting department for this episode. But other than that, the acting was solid. Nice to see Josh and Aaron back at it :)
Aaron Paul effin made me cry. Again.
Yeah he did such a great job!
This was honestly one of the best episodes of black mirror to me. Loved the ending. Only thing I would change is the length time but besides that. Perfect episode. I can’t stop thinking about it
The ending was bad. It doesn't make sense David did what he did. Bad writing, almost good.
Yep I had to watch it on 1.5x Speed
@@carlosadurt6153 how did it not make sense? I think any person in his position would go mad or even madder than him.
@@Sydwiz9999 If that's what you believe you are, you should check yourself. That's NOT normal or logical. Really. Set your bars higher.
@@carlosadurt6153no shit it’s not logical the dude watched his whole family get murdered, why would he be thinking rationally?
I REALLY want a follow up to this episode! I need to know how those 4 years went
2 years, weren't they half way through?
@@DonutTeaBagle i think at some point Cliff says they have been up there 2 years and 4 years to go.
Well Optimus, not knowing is the ‘essence’ of Black Mirror, the ending of not knowing is the horror of the show
I like to think that they both went mad and killed or tried to kill each other
I would imagine it would end rather abruptly.
All this episode did was reinforce my belief that I cannot trust people if I ever get put into a prisoners dilemma I will save myself and myself only. Call me selfish if you will but human history has proven enough to me.
Sounds like you're the one who can't be trusted if you've already made that decision before being put in the scenario.
@@GenerationalDisappointment I'm from Christchurch we had a giant Earthquake back in 2011 I saw people leave people behind to save their own skin I remember seeing an elderly lady passed out on the floor everybody ran passed her without even caring to try help. That is when I learnt people will sell people out with lightning speed if it is to save their own skin don't trust anybody to save you.I helped clear out rubble to find missing people went back home to find out my house got looted! AWESOME.
Well, that was a dark twist I did not expect ... another great episode .. and another great explaining video ❤
Glad you enjoyed it
Spoilers. It’s not blood, it’s paint. David staged it so cliff could understand how he felt. That way Cliff could empathize and let David continue to use his machine. David said he would paint the house and that’s all he did.
I doubt it.
There was a pond of blood there
Lol so u re telling me Aaron Paul was weeping because his house s painted walls were ruined? Dude his wife and child were drowning in a pond of their own blood..
@@lun-uhatic195 he was crying because he finally understood how it would feel to lose his family. And he knew at anytime David could trick him and go back to his family. He wasnt in control anymore.
@@fudo3533 or a pond of paint 🤔
I swear to God, Rory really left a lasting impression on the episode. His dialogue delivery along with Josh's brilliant acting perfected the scene so much! Loved this episode. 10/10
When Aaron Paul had a caterpillar on his hand and that bittersweet smile i instantly thought this might be a reference or at least a similar scene to the one in Breaking Bad when Jesse had a bug on his hand...
No killing at the end. By using paint colors and art skills, he recreates pain and loss, as his final masterpiece.
This is why you're supposed to put the fake bodies in space
...and instantly fail the mission if the fake bodies break or malfunction! The logic is the mission takes priority, which is why the real bodies are up there.
@@jaybsproductions9068Exactly
@Jay B yea but humans need too much resources. We need oxygen and food. Robots dont
@@dr.wolfstar1765 Irrelevant - they were supplied with what was needed on the ship, that was no problem.
Option A) use replicas on the ship but if they're damaged, or destroyed, the mission fails
Option B) use replicas for the visits back home and if they're damaged, or destroyed, the mission can continue
Why would those in charge of the mission consider option A? For what benefit? The trips home are a luxury, not a part of the mission. The mission takes priority with real bodies.
@@jaybsproductions9068 for the benefit that with proper maintenance between the replicas the mission can continue for a longer than a lifetime. Each astronaut can pilot a replica to fix the other one if it's broken. Or just put a cookie up there in the replica and see if they form an ai civilization and come back to earth. Would be a sick black mirror movie idea
It was so nice to see Aaron Paul but especially Josh Hartnett who kinda retired. I love him, both of them, and this was an excellent episode
Yes big Josh Hartnett fan too.
He never retired. He took a break at one point and I think he willingly stepped back from being an A-Lister because it's not what he wanted and it wasn't making him happy.
But he's still acting.
@@kevtb874 that's what I meant by kinda retired. Exactly what you explained was what I meant which I thought was obvious lol
I was hoping it would go in the direction of David using Cliff’s body to avenge his family by somehow getting the criminals out of prison and then killing them. And then framing Cliff for the murders.
Only problem with this is would the government know that the links can be shared? Then that means both David and Cliff are prime suspects.
*After finishing the season recently* I know some of it has been controversial cos of the departure from technology…. But tbh IDC - every story being about technology becomes tiresome after a while.. switching things up wit the Werewolf and Demon episodes mixed with episodes on technology keeps the stories fresh imo. And the topics they cover are still relevant so it’s all good imo
They should have worked on a explanation why they sent real humans to space and not the replicas.
This is actually a good point 😂😂😂
Are you serious? You can lose contact with robots and they will drift in space without doing anything, unlike real people.
@@anti_noyexcellent point!
Wonderful analysis, Pilot. I believe you nailed the themes of the episode. What an absolutely brilliant episode this was. It had me riveted from start to finish, and I love the ending. It is tragic, but it's just so damn interesting and fascinating. 10 years from now, I might not recall the specific details of the episode, but I can guarantee I will remember how it ended. Also, just want to shout out the three leads. They were all fantastic; especially Aaron Paul. No one does an emotional breakdown better than Aaron Paul!
Well put. I like what you said about maybe not being able to recall the details in years to come but remembering the ending. As well as that, i'd like to add the feeling that I experienced when I finished it is something that will definitely be remembered. Such a great ending!
They all did great acting, but Aaron's acting was on another level.
I called that he would catch feelings but totally didn't see that ending twist! My mouth was on the floor.
Same here!
Pick up your mouth the floor is dirty
This episode kept me on my feet, the suspenseful build-up, making me guess what David was going to do the whole time. I like this because even after the episode was over, it kept me using my imagination and thinking about the other choices he could have done instead but then coming to realize what he did was the only option to ensure both of them are alive to continue their mission in space. They could have easily did an alternate ending where David just destroys the link so he could never go back to his family too. But went with the more terrifying ending which I'm glad they did.
I only saw this episode and loved it , howz the remaining episodes??
Nah it was a pretty lazy result for a shock ending nobody would expect because it was so out of character and just wrong. David would have all the power here because he was already suicidal and had nothing to lose and so he would force Cliff to share his life on earth, or the replica at least. Otherwise he would kill them both on the Space Station. He'd probably go and do hedonistic things on earth like a Jekyl and Hyde situation and Cliff would have to live with it. That would be the smartest outcome. Otherwise David would probably just give up and kill himself not care about anyone anymore. Like i said though, Cliff would have to do whatever to keep David sane and living. Also in simulation they should have had a solution for this type of scenario already planned out.
@@Wolfsheim23 YES, THANK YOU! That's exactly what I've just commented on another thread. No build up at all to suggest that David would be able to kill a freaking kid in cold blood just to prove a point. Why do that? To be even more miserable than he already was? To lose a chance of having anything? It would've made a lot more sense for him to use the situation to scare Cliff and to force a negotiation where he'd be able to use Cliff 's replica way more than 1h/week, otherwise he'd kill them both. What we got was just for shock value and made no sense for the characters at all. If they wanted to go for that they could've used some of the long 1 and a half hour to show us that David was losing it. No, they showed us him shaving and this behavior is enough to justify the killing spree. Sorry, didn't work for me.
Great episode!!!
Welcome back BM!
It truly was wasn't it!
I thought David was going to destroy the link so when Cliff put his card in, it would turn up as red and prevent him from going back. I was a bit surprised when he was able to get it to work in the final scene where it was revealed that David wasn’t really going to go back to apologize to Cliff’s wife, but instead he wanted revenge at Cliff for destroying his painting in the garage that he spent so much time on. So I liked the twist that he didn’t really apologize to his wife, but desecrated his house with paint.
???
He went back and killed cliffs family. The “paint” is blood.
I had mix feelings on this episode, when it started I was like oh no is he gonna fall for his wife and... yup. I did think he would just kill Aaron Paul and take over his replica, so they at least got me there.
It’s so much better written than any other one. Aaron Paul was amazing
I loved the switch ups this season. I freaking loved this episode a lot in particular. Every episode was so good I dead ass can’t pick a favorite.
David Ross turned into a lecherous, jealous, evil version of the PBS (USA) painter Bob Ross. Aaron (as David) spoke softly and described painting just like Bob Ross, I was just waiting for him to say “paint a happy little cloud “
Might be a shot in the dark, but Cooper might not have been a BM reference but rather Interstellar since the main character's name in Interstellar is Cooper. And this episode is set in space...
That's an interesting view!
@@BrainPilot omg thank you for replying to me. It was just a random thought. 😊
You can’t blame Cliff, Kate Mara is as beautiful as the surrounding picturesque countryside
I'm so glad I've waited to watch this one, knowing full well it's gonna be a favorite for the season. The beginning was so tragic, and by the mid-point you expect it to follow a specific trope. I did remind myself that this was Black Mirror so it would be too easy, but dang, that ending! You're mad at David's character, but both of them are the only 2 people who understands truly understands each other.
I share many of the same thoughts as you on Beyond the Sea. Great concept. Interesting Technology. Stellar performances. Overall, it's an excellent episode.
Nah this was my least favorite episode. Where was the grief counseling run by Ground Control to help David dealing with the death of his family... Why was it CLIFF AND HIS WIFE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THIS?!
It’s based during 1969 so they definitely didn’t care about mental health at that point tbh
@@Girlypop666 an Alt 1969, idk it just bugs me to think that they likely spent BILLIONS to put these guys into space and created replicas to give them a work life balance, but couldn't establish a line for david to at least talk to like extended family following the funeral? Like he's not the only one suffering, his wife's family is too.
Also given what JUST happened to David's family, did it not occur to Ground Control to maybe put Cliff's family and his replica in a more secure location? Ppl recognized him out in their town, who's to say that cult wouldn't track him down too? It's just very ill contrived for what I can only assume is Alt Nasa to not have some degree of contingency for these scenarios....
@@KaapaKoopa9common sense werent present in this movie. If it were this horror story could have been avoided easily. Like you said, the bots need protection as well as backup in case it malfunctions / got destroyed
@@JoeMama-sd2klMy writing edit: I would've written david's family dying via car crash. The random nature of car crashes could be a reflection of the random times the spaceship gets damaged, knowing how David lost his family, we could still witness his dissent into depression but David instead could retract into a more desperate character, wanting to return home and putting his own sanity over the mission. Cliff, being very rigid in his process would object and boom, conflict.
But above all this, DAVID NEEDED TO GO THROUGH GRIEF COUNSELING. Even if it meant doing so in Cliff's replica, that would've been a great opportunity to see Aaron Paul truly show range as Cliff and David in an intimate setting. Especially if the counselor is like Ground Control sanctioned and they constantly try to reassure him that he needs to finish the mission. His breaking point will be when he's in a session and he kills his counselor and he goes to Ground Control to try and force them to abort the mission and return home by any means necessary. Meanwhile the unknowing Cliff is just sitting in the spaceship unaware of what's happening back on Earth and all of a sudden he sees messages from Ground Control saying take David out of the pod or something and he's just genuinely terrified because now he's not only lost control of his replica but now he's trapped up there with David going postal.
fun fact this took place in 1969, the grouo that killed david was prolly charles manson
As soon as you see Aaron Paul, you know it's going to be an emotional performance.
Definitely! He doesn’t do much, but what he does do is just pure quality!
It occurred to me while watching that they could have had the replicas go up in space instead and preserve their mental and physical health, like bone density, go to doctor and therapist appointments, sun exposure on their actual body to regulate their sleep/wake cycles. There’s no need in this case for actual human bodies to be in space.
exactly!!!
This is my second favorite ep this season! Acting was too real Aaron Paul popped off and it left me with this feeling of dread like a og black mirror episode would do
Ohhh, what's your favourite?
@@BrainPilot demon79 imo it was the most creative and funny ep that kept the dark black mirror feel. Also the possibility that it could all take place in a "cookie" made it above beyond the sea.
what happens if they die in space? is the replica able to survive on earth?
This to me is by far the best episode of the season.
Yeah it was a great one wasn't it!
I think David was a psychopath (fun fact psychopaths are well suited to be astronauts because they perform well under pressure). I found it really weird how quickly he got atached to Lana. It felt like all he wanted was to have a perfect family it almost didn't matter how and who they are. They should just give him replicas of his family presumably with an AI mind, he wouldn't see the difference 😀 And then the ending - total psycho!
I was sooooooo waiting for Paul to come back into the ship after witnessing what Hartnet had done, and call him "Bitch" in utter anger!!!
All the people asking why the replicas weren’t sent to space instead - I interpreted that the mission was about how the human body would survive in space. Especially with the time period and everyone’s interest in human space travel. Sending the replicas up would be pointless if that was the case.
Yeah same! It was definitely that!
Bruh he pulled a saw move on him XD "You didnt appreciate what you had so im gonna punish you".
One of the books they had on the ship was a collection of ray bradbury short stories that included discussions of the ethics of robot men and even men in space trying to reach home, as well as affairs.
I didn’t even notice that- I teach English and my students and I read “Marionettes Inc” by Ray Bradbury and as I was watching some elements of that short story popped up throughout this episode… ofc there are no clones involved … but kinda
Did anyone else catch the music in the first ten minutes when Aaron Paul’s character goes out in space? It is very similar to the classic “Halloween” theme instrumental
Yes, exactly. I've been trying to find a comment to see if someone else noticed as well. Josh Hartnett was in Halloween H20
I wanna be in the world where this was the final episode and youre just left with this gut punch of an ending
Loch Henry and Beyond the Sea are my favorites from season six.
Yeah i'd agree - I thought they were great ones!
This was a straight up Twilight Zone homage. Outstanding episode.
It was wasn't it!
The guy with the shorter hair reminded me of my boss who hired me, he passed just a couple years ago. Made me smile and cry at the same time. This episode told a horrific story.
Just finished it, the most unsatisfying ending ever, so the worst thing happens and theres nothing u can do about it, that's a horrible feeling. As good as this episode was the ending made me feel helpless, is the rest of season going to be like this
Agree. I hated the ending. Would’ve been vastly better to end with cliff outside the ship stranded. At least that would make sense. will say performances were brilliant though.
@@Paul1978 ehhh I just honestly don't think that would be better because it doesn't address David's wants, and it would be kind of a nonsensical ending imo. If he left Cliff stranded, then he would be all alone. David said to Cliff when he confronted him that he doesn't know what it's like to be him. He wanted Cliff to feel his pain, he wanted to feel understood, and so the ending made perfect sense.
@@Paul1978That's so boring and predictable though.
Great episode.
It definitely was!
All of the Culkin brothers are great actors and play believable psychos.
So true!
this episode annoyed me, like why did the robots have to stay on earth? why not just send the replicas into space and keep the real bodies on earth. it would mean they didnt need to workout in space, eat in space or anything.
The part where the guy was trying to protect his family with a baseball bat was practically a commercial for the 2nd amendment
This borrows a lot of 2001 Space Odyssey and is giving Charles Manson/Sharon Tate feel, hence Valley of the Dolls reference. it was good and it was visual candy throughout. Kate Mara looked gorgeous in this. It was nice to see Josh Hartnett is aging well, he is getting better looking with time. The ending was truly bleak.
Both actors in their element, great performances. Definitely inspired by 2001: A Space Odyssey and the Manson family murders. The names of the characters was interesting too. Dave was the name of the astronaut who HAL locked outside in 2001: ASO and Cliff was the stunt double played by Brad Pitt in 'Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood.'
*my Only criticism is that it was a tad bit predictable. As in, as SOON as the wife suggested cliff should let David use his replica I DID predict from then on how David would fall in love with Cliffs life and family as it's a distraction to his now lonely life. So instead of being enthralled with the storytelling from then on, I was just watching and waiting for it to happen as predicted. BUT where I was wrong is that I thought the person that David would life-end would be Cliff. I thought he would eventually off Cliff and pretend to be him and take over his life so he could have a family again, as you predicted as well.*
My thoughts exactly, the infidelity was predictable, the dark ending was not
Im in the same boat. I didn't love this episode, it was filled with great actors and acting, but it was so so for me as far as entertaining. But I knew exactly what was going to happen, like you did, but was wrong as well thinking he would kill him , not the family.
You weren’t alone…that ending was unexpected
I also predicted same and I thought wife would help David too. However I am glad I was wrong...
Also thought that he’d take over his replica, but the actual ending makes it a true black mirror episode tho bc it was unexpected
Am I the only one who knew from the beginning he was gonna kill the wife and son? I called it right after he was offered to go spend time on earth in the forest. I really can't be the only one. It was either that or destroy the replica. But my immediate thought was kill the family. Honest suprised more people didn't see that coming.
not rlly sure if it counts as an easter egg but did anyone else notice that lana was reading valley of the dolls which we can recall that the irl film adaptation consisted of sharon tate whom was similarly killed by the hippies in the infamous manson cult it even takes place in the same exact year
I thought this was one of the best episodes of Black Mirror and also the season has been full of bangers, all of them are really very well-executed. The book The Cliff buys Lana is titled The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress which is a 1966 Sci-fi novel by American writer Robert A. Heinlein about a lunar colony's revolt against absentee rule from Earth. Which could be a comment on how David and Cliff are absent from earth and their humanity.
The way David pulled up a chair for Cliff, like...welcome to hell. Didnt expect that at all! Loved seeing Rory Culkin too, even if it was just for a bit.
I keep seeing Ethan Chandler from Penny Dreadful in Josh Hartnett. Good to see him again. I could really tell the difference in persona that dude from Breaking Bad played between his character in this and the way Josh Hartnett would walk and act.
I haven't read through all the comments, so my apologies if this has already been brought up; but has anyone considered Cooper's book store as not a nod to another character in earlier seasons - rather Cooper from "Interstellar", considering its ending?
I thought at first that the two astronauts lived in the 21st century and that their replicas lived in the past, in the 70's. I felt that it was too advanced of a technology to be able to exist in the 1970's. But apparently i'm wrong
I think it was an 'Alternative 1969'
AMAZING Episode !!!! 🙏
It definitely was!
Henry probably knew for a long time since cliff replica didn't have any food at the dinner table
There were sea of tranquility books in the book store! And in the town there was lobster pound, which could have been a reference to Lacie, but it’s a reach :3
Ah I did see the tranquility book but just presumed it was a real book that was out there in existence lol!
Season 6 is absolutely insane. I love it. I stumbled upon it by accident. I didn’t even know it was out. I had pretty much given up on season six ever coming out. This was an amazing treat ❤❤❤❤❤
I enjoyed the episode until the end. I wish they'd maybe explained how important this 2 man, 4-year space mission was or its purpose because, in the heat of the moment, I can't understand why Cliff wouldn't try to kill David and instead just sit w/ him at the table and try to go on. If I were in that position, I think I'd rather die alone in space than live w/ the person that killed my family using my face.
If David, or anyone probably, was able to confront the cult leader responsible for his loved one's death, most would go ballistic. Why is this space mission so important that Cliff is willing to continue to work alone w/ David for the next couple of years?
David's family dying was a senseless tragedy, executed by ignorant morons who thought they were doing 'the right thing', but the reason is clear. Cliff's family died for absolutely no reason; David knew the Replica program, he knows how it feels to lose your family, so why did he do it? Because his feelings got hurt when Cliff's wife didn't feel the same way towards him? Because he was jealous that Cliff still had a family? No matter what the reason, Cliff had every right to get his vengeance.
Even if David wanted Cliff to feel his pain, David's family wasn't murdered by someone they knew and had trusted, more or less. David doesn't have to interact with the person/ppl that killed his family every day.
To me, the only acceptable reason for not killing David would be if the fate of the world rested on this space mission. Personally, I like to think that Cliff is playing the long game and will avenge his family or get justice somehow, someday.
Yep much in the episode didn't sit right with me, it's mostly for shock value. But it was a fun watch. I'd never predict those events happening because they shouldn't have happened. I don't believe they would turn out that way in any dimension.
@@Wolfsheim23the main problem was that david dont understand that he was on risk living the way he live.
Second the replica program should have a replacement for this situations.
And the last i see a lot of comments that why david do that to cliff that gave her trust and share his family.
Well you forgot an important thing david has nothing Left to Lose. And most important in one scene tells cliff that he dont know what he had
So in a sick way david only understands that killing the family of cliffs will be the answer to truly someone understands.
@@Alejandro30746 Ya but since David had all the power he could just force Cliff to share the replica equally to go back to earth otherwise kill them both. The shock ending just wouldn't happen. If so Cliff has nothing to live for but getting revenge.. and he would. Not caring if it killed them both. And also YES of course there would be plan for if either one of them became incapacitated on that ship and backup to the replicas esp if any person can use any replica.
Great cast and very exciting season 6, I hope Black mirror will keep the idea from the beginng till the end, as they started. Please guys, just keep it real like always ❤
There was so much in this episode. The books were all easter eggs of some sort. First book - Airport - plot similarites (social wife can't socialize due to husband's job...also a foreshadowing to Demon 79 & its ending, in that this novel got remade into several movies with titles like "Airport 77, Airport 79). Valley of the Dolls - can't reveal the reference without spoiling a major plot point in the episode. Then Ray Bradbury's The Illustrated Man - most specifically the short story Marionettes Inc (similar events in this plot), then the outlier - The Moon is a Harsh Mistress - not tied to this plot, but it's foreshadowing the next episode, Mazey Day.
My fav episode of this season !
Yeah it was an emotional ride wasn't it!
Knowing Black Mirror, I thought it would be killing then pretending but then hell didn't expect that
A man sleeps in the sky while his mechanical image walks on earth
Very poetic once put like that!
that ending was deep. i knew he would do sum crazy once he got that link. he had nothing to lose after the replica incident
Yeah it was so dark!
They would obviously put in a safeguard not allowing anyone to use someone else's replica or else you could easily frame them for something.
Black Mirror is always an issue about common sense safeguards not being placed on some kind of futuristic technology.
06:48 The avatar technology didn't make any sense. They were linked with the replicas and interacting in real time. When astronauts went to the moon, there was a 1 - 2.5 second time delay in communication. Cliff and David are presumably at least as far away as Mars or Venus, given the 4+ year journey. It's actually more likely that they would be going to Jupiter, which is about 4 AUs away when it is closest to Earth. But let's assume they're near Venus or Mars. When Venus is closest to the Earth, the distance is about 0.25 AUs, which is about 125 light seconds. Mars at its closest approach to Earth is about 0.4 AUs, or 200 light seconds. Have you ever played a first person shooter computer game on a server with 200 ping, and you're constantly getting shot and can't hit anything? That's called lag. 200 ping is 0.2 seconds. If they're going to Venus and they're 120 light seconds from Earth, they would have 240,000 ping. Their interaction with the world would be 4 minutes behind. The replica link technology is dumb.
I’m just wondering if cliffs character had anything at all to do with the USS episode? Is there a connection since he’s still in space ?
I dont think David killed Cliffs family. David considered himself an artist, so I think he went overboard on the red paint, and created a scene for David to make him consider morality. Why else would David push the chair out instead of preparing for battle upon Cliffs return to the station?
Just watched it. It's alot of things to to wrap your head around, but when you pointed out Cooper's book store it kinda makes sense what the theme of this show in general is. Which is mind travel. You saw it in Cooper's story, Striking Vipers, Black Museum, San Junipero, the Miley Cyrus one and more.
This one though doesn't give you much to work with in terms of metaphors. David was a snake, Cliff told him and he went nuts because he had nothing to loose? Or was it that he found motivation to stay on course for the next 4 years to live on his life on earth and needed Cliff's help by getting his full attention on the ship by killing his family?
If we think straight forward what happened in the ending, it's too simple.
My theory. The key was when the wife told Cliff she was lonely and not happy after he left. After that conversation his wife and kid was killed. Before that David's family was killed. Maybe the message with this episode was that you loose your family when you are stuck with work and don't give your family time. Black Mirror as a whole mostly has metaphors related to our real life struggles and happiness so i choose to believe that.
One thing that rly confused me is if they can make a exact replica with the same consciousness and intelligence as their human counterparts then why don’t they just send the replica to space and keep the humans down to earth.
The ending seemed extremely superfluous and forced in my opinion. Seemed like Brooker needed a classic black mirror-esque conclusion and just threw it in there for shock value
Hear me out ,
I am a bit optimistic and have an alternative ending.
David only kills the dog so he can get cliff to talk, thats why he offer him the chair.
Just giving him the feeling of what he is capable of
Rory culkin was INCREDIBLE
Yeah I thought his performance was so haunting!
REAL COMMENTARY ON THE EPISODE…. it’s Back Mirror at its best, but it has its flaws… Lana turns out to be the most pivotal character, who ends up being butchered with no remorse.. the kid dies with her… David’s finger is charismatic, he is a tortured soul turned into lunatic demon himself, Cliff is just an I’ll fated regular boring guy who submits to David in the end…. In any case David’s and Lana’s chemistry didn’t mean much and neither did Cliffs and Lana’s chemistry.. the audience doesn’t gravitate towards either side.. she was just being selflessly good in every situation and putting others above her… However, the guys were on some ego trip.. and we’re fighting over their ego to finally settle for their own survival in the end.. lol… I bet that David and Cliff were better friends in the End.. it’s sad though that Lana had to pay the price..
Flaws: why the fuck this important mission does not have any Ground Staff to take care of the Astronauts…. AND WHAT IS THE SPACE MISSION ABOUT ANYWAYS?????????? Media should stop portraying Artists as Murderers, because there is no reason to it… ❤😂🎉
I think there's a very subtle reference to Yorkie's actress (Mackenzie Davis) from San Junipero. Upon returning to the ship after inspecting the supposedly damaged coolant, Cliff said something about the system sending out false alarms, which they should they report to someone at the controls named Mackenzie.
Mackenzie Davis played a similar role in the movie "The Martian" which also starred Kate Mara, who plays Cliff's wife Lana.
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But why not use clones in space?
I'd beg to differ a bit. The concept is flawed. You'd think the replicas would be in space, doing the dangerous work and the ending was telegraphed in the first chunk.
Misery loves company 😢