That actually works out musically cause it doesn’t sound like Music win guy is playing the major 3rd and b flat is the relative major to g minor so he’s basically just implying that the jam is in g minor
E D and G all work over a Bb bass note. Any note in the Bb major scale except Eb works under that as Bb Lydian. Eb under that implies Eb double harmonic major.
I tell ya once you read his book and you’re ANY level of musician, your mind will be blown. My man Victor is 100% in tune with the groove and the feel in this vid.
i mean the other guy raised his hand in deference, but i feel like the real andwer is that neither of them are. the two parts together create the dissonance that in turn creates the magic.
For y’all that don’t get it: he’s trying to demonstrate the jazz musician’s philosophy of “there’s no such thing as ‘wrong notes’, only wrong rhythms”. Rhythm is king over everything in Black American music. This dissonance created by playing in two different keys simultaneously while in the same groove can serve as a device for anticipation or tension that is then released by resolution in the same key. That clash of keys brings out “the stank face”; it’s super funky.
@@joonyah8904 Nope. Funk, Gospel, Jazz, Blues, Rock, R&B, Hip-Hop, Country: it’s all Black American Music. You can’t take my people’s gift to the world away from its originators.
The bassist decides what everyone else is playing…and doesn’t need to ask permission. Great bassists make everyone else sound awesome. Bad bassists make everyone else in the band sound terrible…
Yes! Theory gives you context. And when you experiment and discover new things, you now have a language (theory) to apply it in different situations (keys). The anti theory group believes it impedes creativity. But I believe people just lean into their strengths. Creative people are creative. Theory in that case will only lend to their creativity. Then you have people whose strengths are in understanding theory. If they don’t have creative talent, then they will lean into theory but nothing can make them creative. So there is a section of musicians we come across who it might “appear” that theory is stifling their creativity, but in reality they never had it to begin with. I have a mathematical mind so I used theory as a way to explore guitar. I wasn’t much of flashy player early on so I used theory as my strength to fit in with other musicians. Eventually the feeling came and at some point I was able to let go of theory and explore the creative part of the process and then the two kind of merged into one. I recall hearing Wooten say in this same session that theory is used to help you get out when you hit a roadblock. Or something to that affect. I’ve said enough. Haha.
@@TheMetalInsideUsAll and I think that’s the advantage of having theory as a tool. Even when you break the rules you now have some context within theory so you can transpose those rules you’ve broken to many different situations. And of course, it all boils down to your own personal taste.
@truthseeking3818 top 3 of all time? You're out of your mind. There are hundreds of bassists at or beyond his technical and success level. He's a successful and fun bassist with good business skills, sure, but I am just so sick of hearing him brag about his use of chromaticism to a room full of amateurs and acting like he's Sri Chimnoy or something
@@RTL_1984 I mean calling him a genius when you have people like Jacob Collier and Herbie who have such a deep understanding of harmony is quite a statement. But compared to the average person he of couse is
It’s basically what music theory is. If your on beat playing the same scale, you can’t “play” a wrong note. Reason he asks “A Major?”. Him sliding down to simplify how to sharpen or flatten notes is the chefs kiss to this awesome teacher
Just gonna state the obvious a bit Tyler/MusicisWin is such a phenomenal player. So rounded and there’s actual music in there rather than just chops or useless technical skill. Real music. And music Is win. These Wooten clips show Tyler’s humility which in most every case makes you a better musician. When most of the greats who lose their head after getting famous, had a point of humility in their past. and I must include, Wooten is a genius music teacher besides being the incredible player he is. Opens minds to the thing that’s right in front of us all. No pretentiousness. Lastly, what Wooten’s doing there as Tyler holds the guitar groove, is creating a tension building moment. Tension and release. That interlock they are doing wakes your attention, suspended in a a moment, and it has to go somewhere, but it makes that place you’re going, musically, have all the power it wouldn’t otherwise have Like the listener is a baby being thrown up into the air by its parent, and the moment in the air is thrilling but it’s the landing back into the grounded hands that makes it all rush in and make you feel 💥 Etc etc
I dont know anything bout making music - but to describe once that lower tone kicks in it’s like the sound both are making never gets time to go from one ear & out the other. The sound is constantly, but smoothly, always filling your mind.
When he said who’s wrong right now, I think the answer was no one. He put the notes in their own place, and it sounded like a heated discussion more than a clash to me.
I like almost everyone in the comments is missing the point of this lesson. He's not saying to necessarily play in the wrong key. He's saying that playing on rhythm is more important, and that's it better to focus on getting a good groove than playing the "right" notes. If your rhythm is off, it doesn't matter how technically correct your not choices are, it's going to sound bad. He's also making a point about octave separation, specifically on the low end. If you play low, the dissonance is less pronounced and you're also separating more from the higher end instruments causing less clashing.
My bassist always used to say to me “the reason a bass guitarist is the best type is because we’re the ones that make you sound better” many years later, when you get the right bass player, he was right! ♥️
The power to have the whole band at your hook until you decide it's time to release them and give them the root it one of the things I love about plying bass.
I have seen this clip a hundred times and never realized it was Music Is Win playing the guitar until now... They always seemed to cut that part of the video out.
I'd like to personally thank Victor Wooten. That's where that tight groovy rhythm that he plays in this vid. I always play similar rhythm just noodling
Wooten seems to be a much better player when he's teaching. When he's just playing, he always feels like he's playing as many notes as he can as fast as he can.
People today no longer understand *subtlety* in play. Simply by breaking that run down a bit instead of trying to always be "up front," Victor magicall forces the guitar to the top by "giving it air" and, just like a balloon in waer, it suddenly rises to the surface for everyone to see. 😊
If you want some higher clarity in these mixes i highly recommend the remastered versions of the red and blue albums (especially the red album). They have completely remixed these tracks using modern techniques and really interesting uses of ai. The original mixes are very strange with their far left and far right panning (they pioneered this shit so its to be expected), so hearing these tracks in such a new way is so cool
Best bass player on the planet. And possibly the kindest guy you might ever meet. And even though bass players are often the coolest one in the band Victor seems somehow even cooler than that.
He just played the b flat scale and scatted. That is a true bass player
That actually works out musically cause it doesn’t sound like Music win guy is playing the major 3rd and b flat is the relative major to g minor so he’s basically just implying that the jam is in g minor
@@willstooksbury1477 true
@@willstooksbury1477the guitar is actually in Em (the two main notes are E and D) so Victor Wooten is actually playing a tritone away
@@RyJohnsonMusic ok that makes sense
E D and G all work over a Bb bass note. Any note in the Bb major scale except Eb works under that as Bb Lydian. Eb under that implies Eb double harmonic major.
dissonance is a great tool. brings so many layers to a piece
Yeh but it’s like hot sauce, handled with care. Too much ruins the stew.
@@RyRch Yeah that's what my uncle who's played to the same drunks at the local dive bar for 30 years says...
@@aidanriess4946big mad and projecting
Yeah I do it all the time. And when I do it, it's an art form, cats!!
@@stwheel why hasn’t anyone heard of you? You do amazing art all the time yet no one knows who you are. Why aren’t you famous? Genuinely curious
I tell ya once you read his book and you’re ANY level of musician, your mind will be blown. My man Victor is 100% in tune with the groove and the feel in this vid.
Which book? Is it "The Music Lesson: A Spiritual Search for Growth Through Music"? He has 2 other books on Goodreads
@@Giorgi.Japiashvilileaving a comment so I will be notified of the answer too.
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"Who's Wrong Right Now" is such a flex
They both carry that knowledge bc they are both professionals, there was no flex because it was an educational moment to the audience.
i mean the other guy raised his hand in deference, but i feel like the real andwer is that neither of them are. the two parts together create the dissonance that in turn creates the magic.
For y’all that don’t get it: he’s trying to demonstrate the jazz musician’s philosophy of “there’s no such thing as ‘wrong notes’, only wrong rhythms”. Rhythm is king over everything in Black American music. This dissonance created by playing in two different keys simultaneously while in the same groove can serve as a device for anticipation or tension that is then released by resolution in the same key. That clash of keys brings out “the stank face”; it’s super funky.
rhythm is king over everything in as good as all music brother
@@joonyah8904they did
No he was showing how lowering his octave gave the guitarist more room.
@@joonyah8904 Nope. Funk, Gospel, Jazz, Blues, Rock, R&B, Hip-Hop, Country: it’s all Black American Music. You can’t take my people’s gift to the world away from its originators.
@@SalimSivaad I’m not taking anything from anyone. It’s all music. Am I wrong?
"this will make him sound better" this just changed my way of thinking about bass
The bassist decides what everyone else is playing…and doesn’t need to ask permission. Great bassists make everyone else sound awesome. Bad bassists make everyone else in the band sound terrible…
@@poornoodle9851that’s such a great quote and so true, as Wooten shows in this video.
wtf did you think the purpose of the bass WAS in a rock/jazz/funk context? To make everyone else sound better than they are!
@@user-dj9iu2et3ru dont need to be rude make your point
He really understands that theory is just there to help us explain things but playing music is about listening and experimenting.
I'm glad someone got it. The comment section is wild.
Yes. But understanding theory can take ur experimenting/improv go to new places.
Yes! Theory gives you context. And when you experiment and discover new things, you now have a language (theory) to apply it in different situations (keys).
The anti theory group believes it impedes creativity. But I believe people just lean into their strengths. Creative people are creative. Theory in that case will only lend to their creativity.
Then you have people whose strengths are in understanding theory. If they don’t have creative talent, then they will lean into theory but nothing can make them creative. So there is a section of musicians we come across who it might “appear” that theory is stifling their creativity, but in reality they never had it to begin with.
I have a mathematical mind so I used theory as a way to explore guitar. I wasn’t much of flashy player early on so I used theory as my strength to fit in with other musicians. Eventually the feeling came and at some point I was able to let go of theory and explore the creative part of the process and then the two kind of merged into one. I recall hearing Wooten say in this same session that theory is used to help you get out when you hit a roadblock. Or something to that affect.
I’ve said enough. Haha.
theory also gives people ideas. if in theory something should work then it would give you context as to how to break the rules.
@@TheMetalInsideUsAll and I think that’s the advantage of having theory as a tool. Even when you break the rules you now have some context within theory so you can transpose those rules you’ve broken to many different situations. And of course, it all boils down to your own personal taste.
This guy is infectiously cool.
You don't know who "this guy" is? This is Victor Wooten. One of the most well known and probably the greatest bassist of this generation.
@@truthseeking3818 you must be fun at parties
Nah he's tedious, I'm sick of him acting like he is some bass guru
@@BroscoWankston what? He’s literally in the top 3. Bassists of all time.
@truthseeking3818 top 3 of all time? You're out of your mind. There are hundreds of bassists at or beyond his technical and success level. He's a successful and fun bassist with good business skills, sure, but I am just so sick of hearing him brag about his use of chromaticism to a room full of amateurs and acting like he's Sri Chimnoy or something
That walk down of notes at the end actually did make him sound better....
Its the landing
I didn't make a mistake.. was playing chromatic scale :)
Unironically based
@@Necro-sUnironically bassed ;
@@davedave8608 :B: ASSed
I wish I got this joke because it seems really good.
@@nicford1486 too smart for the room? ;
Victor Wooten is a wonderful guy. I love his attitude about music!
Victor Wooten is a master class of himself. He’s an amazing player. Finding grooves no one else can hear until he shows the world. Sick
Legend says he’s still playing that lick to this day
Dude the “who sounds wrong now” was the most alpha move ever
I don’t care what people say, Vic is a genius
Who argues with you?
@@michaelhaydenbell I had another video where I called him smart and believe it or not, some people argued
Vic is a genius, don't listen to the haters
@@RTL_1984 I mean calling him a genius when you have people like Jacob Collier and Herbie who have such a deep understanding of harmony is quite a statement.
But compared to the average person he of couse is
@@zlquisjacob collier’s music sucks… Herbie is a legend though
His nephew and I went to hs together, I remember jamming all the time. The Wooten family are really good bass players
I'll never not watch a reel with this guy in. He's epic.
Someone that's truly sunk time, energy, and thought into something that they love are the only people that can speak to a topic with so much truth.
Victor is a magician! His book The Music Lesson is required reading for everyone, even non musicians. It changed my life.
that sounded like a King Crimson song and I was here for it.
I'm glad I had the pleasure of seeing Victor Wooten playing when I saw Bela Flek in concert. Three gifted musicians in that band.
More than just three gifted musicians in the Flecktones, depending on the lineup
@@Tearproproductions It was just Bela, Victor and Roy aka Futureman when I saw them.
Getting to see Vic play live with Cory Wong will probably be one my most treasured musical excperiences ever. Dude is THE king of Bass.
Dissonance works to build pieces and give unexpected surprises which you need in songwriting
Victor is such a good teacher. He’s not just a bass player, he loves to educate.
Improvisation is such a key ingredient to any rhythm section. Total genius he is
Two words: Next Level
No wrong notes,... when you're a genius
It’s basically what music theory is. If your on beat playing the same scale, you can’t “play” a wrong note. Reason he asks “A Major?”. Him sliding down to simplify how to sharpen or flatten notes is the chefs kiss to this awesome teacher
@@jayy9361To know music theory is one thing, but to improv on the fly with a solid groove is another thing
Victor is The Culmination of the greats before him AND THE Future of what is to come!!!
Even though the notes aren't harmonious, the percussiveness between them is super complimentary which is what matters.
There are no wrong notes.
Just playing the rhythms.
Took the guitarist on an emotional roller coaster 🎢
Just gonna state the obvious a bit
Tyler/MusicisWin is such a phenomenal player. So rounded and there’s actual music in there rather than just chops or useless technical skill.
Real music.
And music Is win.
These Wooten clips show Tyler’s humility which in most every case makes you a better musician. When most of the greats who lose their head after getting famous, had a point of humility in their past.
and I must include, Wooten is a genius music teacher besides being the incredible player he is.
Opens minds to the thing that’s right in front of us all. No pretentiousness.
Lastly, what Wooten’s doing there as Tyler holds the guitar groove, is creating a tension building moment. Tension and release. That interlock they are doing wakes your attention, suspended in a a moment, and it has to go somewhere, but it makes that place you’re going, musically, have all the power it wouldn’t otherwise have
Like the listener is a baby being thrown up into the air by its parent, and the moment in the air is thrilling but it’s the landing back into the grounded hands that makes it all rush in and make you feel 💥
Etc etc
What an amazing opportunity to play with a legend! Congrats!
I dont know anything bout making music - but to describe once that lower tone kicks in it’s like the sound both are making never gets time to go from one ear & out the other. The sound is constantly, but smoothly, always filling your mind.
20 more seconds longer and this clip would of ate 😭
Would HAVE*. "Would of" is not a thing.
@@michaelhaydenbell “would of” is a thing because he just said it and so did I.
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@@zacharyalan4977 *Kewoehjsey*
@@zacharyalan4977yes
❤ with all the praise he already received, Wooten I still underrated!!!
"no such thing as wrong notes" my ass
When he said who’s wrong right now, I think the answer was no one. He put the notes in their own place, and it sounded like a heated discussion more than a clash to me.
Side note: Dude with the Eric Gales shirt on! I saw Eric Gales band last month, and it blew me away!
I like almost everyone in the comments is missing the point of this lesson. He's not saying to necessarily play in the wrong key. He's saying that playing on rhythm is more important, and that's it better to focus on getting a good groove than playing the "right" notes. If your rhythm is off, it doesn't matter how technically correct your not choices are, it's going to sound bad. He's also making a point about octave separation, specifically on the low end. If you play low, the dissonance is less pronounced and you're also separating more from the higher end instruments causing less clashing.
This works because instead being a compliment he turned into a collaborator. The listener doesn’t compare when the sounds aren’t competing.
Absolutely brilliant that’s a different way of putting things together and it comes out perfectly you are a gift to us musicians
Like the drums. So many overtones, and the groove glue everything.
Ive seen this Wooten clip hundreds of times, never noticed it was you playing the guitar
I NEED an entire track of this groove.
Music theory being put into practice with very clear examples for us non musicians. Awesome!
Do this in a jam, us bass player gets smacked 😂
If the bassist gets smacked for this, they're in the wrong band
My bassist always used to say to me “the reason a bass guitarist is the best type is because we’re the ones that make you sound better” many years later, when you get the right bass player, he was right! ♥️
Always playing with a confident smile. 😊
The power to have the whole band at your hook until you decide it's time to release them and give them the root it one of the things I love about plying bass.
Victor is a musical wizard. 🪄🧙♂️🪄
I like that last line of notes going downward, it reminds me of Pink Floyd's intro to Another Brick in the Wall, The Happiest Days Of Our Lives.
Playing together, that's where the magic happens!
I wish I had someone to play with...
The groove is everything
I have seen this clip a hundred times and never realized it was Music Is Win playing the guitar until now... They always seemed to cut that part of the video out.
Man I love this guy
you are such a wizard. life changing lessons right here!
Unbelievable bass player 🙏🏻🤝🏻... I play mainly lead guitar but I absolutely adore bass !!
I love his book. Victor is a real music teacher.
music theory on an intuitive level is where its at, in my music I play with this kind of harmonic dynamics, mostly by ear and intuition
I love Victor Wooten… one of the best to EVER do it on ANY instrument… I wasn’t feeling that.
Seeing him play was always something wild.
I just saw him walking at the Nashville airport. Didn’t want to say anything but seeing these shorts inspired me to pick the bass back up
Victor Wooten is the TRUTH!!
perfect example of knowing the rules and knowing when and HOW to break them. Classy as all get out
Victor is a Legend...
god damn i love music
I'd like to personally thank Victor Wooten. That's where that tight groovy rhythm that he plays in this vid. I always play similar rhythm just noodling
Not just an incredible player, but an effective teacher
A Nice Groove makes everything good 🙂
Guitar genius💯
I need him in my house full-time……to make me sound good! 😂
🤯 always learning from The Great Vic!👍🏽
I felt it in my tummy when he brought it back into key. This shit rips
I don’t even play instruments and I could watch this guy all day.
Wooten is an incredible musician. Bela Fleck and him were fantastic together
That's what bassist do. They make everyone else sound amazing.
Wooten seems to be a much better player when he's teaching. When he's just playing, he always feels like he's playing as many notes as he can as fast as he can.
It’s about the groooooove🔥
People today no longer understand *subtlety* in play. Simply by breaking that run down a bit instead of trying to always be "up front," Victor magicall forces the guitar to the top by "giving it air" and, just like a balloon in waer, it suddenly rises to the surface for everyone to see. 😊
i feel like im finally seeing something ive felt and never had a definition or description of
Victor gets that sometimes the guitar player was up late last night having "One more".
You can see why every one loves Mr Wooten
If you want some higher clarity in these mixes i highly recommend the remastered versions of the red and blue albums (especially the red album). They have completely remixed these tracks using modern techniques and really interesting uses of ai. The original mixes are very strange with their far left and far right panning (they pioneered this shit so its to be expected), so hearing these tracks in such a new way is so cool
Bass is hyper underappreciated
Vic Wooten is a legend, insane musical knowledge
Who's wrong? He is wrong for being so damn funky! This dude is divine.
i've seen this video so many times already but only now i realize it was you playing guitar there
he has an incredibly good understanding of musical theory
Best bass player on the planet. And possibly the kindest guy you might ever meet. And even though bass players are often the coolest one in the band Victor seems somehow even cooler than that.
Victor is the MAN
And now you can say you've jammed with Victor Wooten
The man is a damn genius I tell you!!!
Sometimes you might mistake it wrong, but bangers to those who heard it upfront...yeah...
Thanks for this Tyler.
Actuality mimicking it would make me head bang. B flat just makes it more mind scattering.
Bro... a masterclass in a min...
Simple but pleasing. Funky
Astounding ears and taste.
Makes it sound like Primus!
That tele is clean af man ❤