Couple of years ago someone paid me to clean off the old paint on their fishing kayak and repaint it with a KISS End Of The Road Tour theme. I did it and best of all I did it in glitter and glow in the dark paint. Looked awesome for sure. Fun Fact: I used 75% acetone 25% water and let it sit over night and then took it to the car wash and 90% of the spray paint came off. Then I used pure acetone and went back over it to remove the rest and what I call the after residue then watered it down and then started my painting. After I painted it I lightly roughed it up and used the two part marine epoxy to add shine and harden it. He assured me he would never sell it but at some point would retire it and hang it on his wall in his KISS room. It turned out great and I see him from time to time on the river and people are always crowded around him taking pictures and videos of his kayak. He loves that.
I'm considering painting my new Pungo, since kayak manufacturers seem to think their customers actually want to paddle a violent yellow and orange clown turd. Is there a reason manufacturers make them in such awful colors? Is a kayak that can't be seen from space too much to ask?
There is hundreds of options that aren't clown colors. Why would you buy one you don't like? Don't spray paint it. It will look like you put a ghetto paint job on a clown turd. The paint will peel off on the first time you even move it. Maybe, maybe try clothing dye. It wont peel but might look like clown vomit instead of a clown turd.
Loved this. Laughed at each appropriate milestone (or non milestone). Informative esp on what others would forbid with insufficient explanation: the acetone-thanks
Angle grinder with high grit flap disks and VERY light pressure to make sure you are only removing paint and not plastic. Then get the crevices with the Dremel tool.
Can we get a review of the crescent kayaks CK1 with the seat riser installed and possibly compare it to the crescent kayaks Light Tackle with the seat riser.
Maybe combine the acetone with some 3M scouring pads on a DA sander? The DA might give your hands a break, and it may also help smoothe out the worn surface.
recently used my dap to clean mine up. works better than i thought it would. since the plastic has small dimples in it i didnt think it would work. water beads super good now lol
There are virtually no kayaks in our area I came across a ascend 133x those both of us are tall and we need a larger than 10 ft kayak is it worth it for $800 it's new I'm going to look at it on Sunday with my husband
So I found a perception swifty on CL and it had been flocked! Do you think your method might work to remove the xmas flocking?! Its a great deal for $50 bucks but I'd prefer not having the flipin flocking! :/
Probably a odd question to ask on a paint removal video but is there any good way to paint or hydro-dip or "wrap" (however those car wraps work) a kayak? I really like the Blade 120 but I want a purple kayak so badly xD (or a sort of purple+black mix like the default blue green mix) I could buy a Mustang 100 in purple/pink but the extra load capacity and 2 feet of keel on the blade speaks to me, for only a extra 50 dollars
Interesting. Paint stripper and acetone work pretty similarly, and given that the acetone didn't do anything here I'd be surprised if the paint stripper did. I think this was multiple layers of paint that were baked on in the sun over time. Extreme case it seems.
@@HeadwatersKayak I also had to take some paint pen off an Ace 4.7, worked like a champ with no scrubbing. I think its because the stripper sits on there like a gelatinous goo, the acetone evaporates off before it can do its thing.
I got a good deal on a spray painted Pelican. The photos in the ad just made it look dirty. This dude even spray painted the INSIDE of the boat. Argh! It’ll be a project. Thanks for the video tutorial.
YOOOOO this video just called me out I got a kayak for $150 off Facebook marketplace the other day it’s yellow but was spray painted dark green camo I sanded the shit out of the damn thing with a sander and it all came off but now it’s still faint ish and patchy so I plan on just spray painting the kayak yellow to freshin it 😂🤣
Hey All, Just checked. Naptha is a solvent that doesn’t attack plastic. It will work well to remove the paint. Instrument builders and ones who service them.
You need a friend that does autobody there is a paint remover that's safe on plastics that comes in an aerosol called peeler it would have taken 15 min to do this
For anyone finding this video; use Lacquer thinner. Not Denatured Alcohol, or Acetone. Wear a respirator! Buy Green Scotch Brite pads in bulk, you'll go through a lot of them. Once you are done getting the patin off the finish will be pretty dull no matter how careful you are. You can hit the whole kayak with an orbital sander at low speed going from 300 grit - 3000 grit sand paper and finish with a buffing wheel to get it pretty decent looking (mind you don't hit the cast in graphics). Finish it off with some 303 protectant. It's a lot of work, but sometimes you find an expensive boat for cheap that someone else "bubbafied" that makes it worth the trouble.
To chemically remove paint, use tolulene/paint thinner, mineral spirits, acetone, alcohol, or oils. Helps if you know what type of paint, because you have to match the chemistry. Oil based paints are the hardest to remove. The disc is a good idea, just use a bigger disc to increase torque. Pressure washer should've done it. My pressure washer will remove the clear coat and metallic paint on a car, if not used from a distance. I think you need a different tip, and stabilize the kayak so it doesn't rebound.
Paint thinner/mineral spirits, gasoline, or turpentine. Obviously test it first to make sure that it doesn't melt the plastic, but those don't melt polyethylene (and it's probably a polyethylene kayak). I would not have bothered with alcohol as it won't dissolve almost any dried paints.
I've heard that it does and that it doesn't. My most reliable source basically said it won't visibly damage it, but it causes to plastic to become more brittle. Wonder if there's a definitive source on chemicals interacting with pe.
Oh, shit, haha. You're that dude. I remember reading about your efforts in a group post. Would never buy a painted used boat, not worth my hassle IMO, Good job however
I figured it would make for a good video and it was a decent deal. Got a couple of laps out of it before passing it on... but yeah, definitely wouldn't do it again 😂
lol, 6 hours + and still not done . Next time just work the OT hours at work and buy a more expensive better condition boat. at least this gave you content for a video.
You should have started with acetone. Acetone does nothing to HDPE. Now if you use acetone on ABS plastic you're going to have problems!.... Ok back to the vid. . .
I'm surprised how tough some of it was bonding. I wonder if maybe because it was scratched and scuffed up before it gave it a better surface for paint to adhere to? Also...don't be that douche floating down the river and paint flakes are coming off your boat into the water cause you spray painted it!
Yeah, I've always heard that paint won't stick to HDPE, so I figured this was gonna be a super quick project. Not sure what kinda paint the guy used, or if maybe it cooked in the sun too much afterwards. It's definitely on there though!
Couple of years ago someone paid me to clean off the old paint on their fishing kayak and repaint it with a KISS End Of The Road Tour theme. I did it and best of all I did it in glitter and glow in the dark paint. Looked awesome for sure. Fun Fact: I used 75% acetone 25% water and let it sit over night and then took it to the car wash and 90% of the spray paint came off. Then I used pure acetone and went back over it to remove the rest and what I call the after residue then watered it down and then started my painting. After I painted it I lightly roughed it up and used the two part marine epoxy to add shine and harden it. He assured me he would never sell it but at some point would retire it and hang it on his wall in his KISS room. It turned out great and I see him from time to time on the river and people are always crowded around him taking pictures and videos of his kayak. He loves that.
These videos are really useful. Since there has been a shortage of new boats, alot more people (myself included) are buying used.
I'm considering painting my new Pungo, since kayak manufacturers seem to think their customers actually want to paddle a violent yellow and orange clown turd.
Is there a reason manufacturers make them in such awful colors? Is a kayak that can't be seen from space too much to ask?
There is hundreds of options that aren't clown colors. Why would you buy one you don't like? Don't spray paint it. It will look like you put a ghetto paint job on a clown turd. The paint will peel off on the first time you even move it. Maybe, maybe try clothing dye. It wont peel but might look like clown vomit instead of a clown turd.
Haha, it seems like no matter what colors they make somebody doesn't like it. Can't win with everyone.
Loved this. Laughed at each appropriate milestone (or non milestone). Informative esp on what others would forbid with insufficient explanation: the acetone-thanks
It was certainly... a learning experience 🤣
PRESSURE WASHER WORKS GREAT
Angle grinder with high grit flap disks and VERY light pressure to make sure you are only removing paint and not plastic. Then get the crevices with the Dremel tool.
Dang, how about sand blasting? Also there are paint disks for grinders that would probably be the fastest.
I might just have to give that a shot!
@@HeadwatersKayak They also have different media like glass bead and walnut shell that give different amounts of abrasion.
That boat would have to be FREE before I'd consider taking that road.
All the Best bro!
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Can we get a review of the crescent kayaks CK1 with the seat riser installed and possibly compare it to the crescent kayaks Light Tackle with the seat riser.
Sorry, I think that’s a little too specific
Maybe combine the acetone with some 3M scouring pads on a DA sander? The DA might give your hands a break, and it may also help smoothe out the worn surface.
I might give that a try next. I'm primarily down to just the hard to get areas, so I might just go back to the felt bit on the Dremel and wrap it up!
recently used my dap to clean mine up. works better than i thought it would. since the plastic has small dimples in it i didnt think it would work. water beads super good now lol
@@skmfkr2 Thanks for verifying my suspicions. I figured it might be a good choice, but you just never know till you try, sometimes.
There are virtually no kayaks in our area I came across a ascend 133x those both of us are tall and we need a larger than 10 ft kayak is it worth it for $800 it's new I'm going to look at it on Sunday with my husband
Sounds a little expensive unless it’s brand new. Availability and the used market seem to be getting WAY better these days.
So I found a perception swifty on CL and it had been flocked! Do you think your method might work to remove the xmas flocking?! Its a great deal for $50 bucks but I'd prefer not having the flipin flocking! :/
This was like watching someone try to drive a nail with every tool except a hammer.
Omg 😂😂😂
What's the hammer then?
Probably a odd question to ask on a paint removal video but is there any good way to paint or hydro-dip or "wrap" (however those car wraps work) a kayak? I really like the Blade 120 but I want a purple kayak so badly xD (or a sort of purple+black mix like the default blue green mix)
I could buy a Mustang 100 in purple/pink but the extra load capacity and 2 feet of keel on the blade speaks to me, for only a extra 50 dollars
i used paint stripper on a Dominatrix and it didn't cause any damage
Interesting. Paint stripper and acetone work pretty similarly, and given that the acetone didn't do anything here I'd be surprised if the paint stripper did. I think this was multiple layers of paint that were baked on in the sun over time. Extreme case it seems.
@@HeadwatersKayak I also had to take some paint pen off an Ace 4.7, worked like a champ with no scrubbing. I think its because the stripper sits on there like a gelatinous goo, the acetone evaporates off before it can do its thing.
Rubbing/polishing compound with a buffer (harbor freight sells a good one) and sponge pads......
Off topic..What is the blue kayak on the wall. Is it 14ft +? Haveing hard time finding who makes non fishing sit ontop 14ft
Swell Scupper 14
There’s a good River Kings video on a similar topic, perhaps sanding with various grits of sandpaper would work better?
I'll check it out. Thanks!
I got a good deal on a spray painted Pelican. The photos in the ad just made it look dirty. This dude even spray painted the INSIDE of the boat. Argh! It’ll be a project. Thanks for the video tutorial.
YOOOOO this video just called me out I got a kayak for $150 off Facebook marketplace the other day it’s yellow but was spray painted dark green camo I sanded the shit out of the damn thing with a sander and it all came off but now it’s still faint ish and patchy so I plan on just spray painting the kayak yellow to freshin it 😂🤣
It seems like it should be so simple, but nope!
Hey All,
Just checked.
Naptha is a solvent that doesn’t attack plastic. It will work well to remove the paint.
Instrument builders and ones who service them.
You need a friend that does autobody there is a paint remover that's safe on plastics that comes in an aerosol called peeler it would have taken 15 min to do this
For anyone finding this video; use Lacquer thinner. Not Denatured Alcohol, or Acetone. Wear a respirator! Buy Green Scotch Brite pads in bulk, you'll go through a lot of them. Once you are done getting the patin off the finish will be pretty dull no matter how careful you are. You can hit the whole kayak with an orbital sander at low speed going from 300 grit - 3000 grit sand paper and finish with a buffing wheel to get it pretty decent looking (mind you don't hit the cast in graphics). Finish it off with some 303 protectant. It's a lot of work, but sometimes you find an expensive boat for cheap that someone else "bubbafied" that makes it worth the trouble.
I used citristrip stripping gel and it worked great.
Good to know
@@HeadwatersKayak lol
To chemically remove paint, use tolulene/paint thinner, mineral spirits, acetone, alcohol, or oils. Helps if you know what type of paint, because you have to match the chemistry. Oil based paints are the hardest to remove. The disc is a good idea, just use a bigger disc to increase torque. Pressure washer should've done it. My pressure washer will remove the clear coat and metallic paint on a car, if not used from a distance. I think you need a different tip, and stabilize the kayak so it doesn't rebound.
Good to know!
Bad News! You have only made it down to the blue primer! lol Pumice stone will work for that if you can get the right kind!
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Paint thinner/mineral spirits, gasoline, or turpentine. Obviously test it first to make sure that it doesn't melt the plastic, but those don't melt polyethylene (and it's probably a polyethylene kayak).
I would not have bothered with alcohol as it won't dissolve almost any dried paints.
Good to know!
Why not use Degreaser take it to a car wash and pressure wash it off. Then rough it down
A work table would be nice
Tell me about it..
Soda blast
Interesting thought!
Acetone won't harm HDPE
I've heard that it does and that it doesn't. My most reliable source basically said it won't visibly damage it, but it causes to plastic to become more brittle. Wonder if there's a definitive source on chemicals interacting with pe.
brake fluid is the best paint remover
Good to know!
Maybe it would be better to repaint with more spray paint in a desirable color.
Oh, shit, haha. You're that dude. I remember reading about your efforts in a group post. Would never buy a painted used boat, not worth my hassle IMO, Good job however
I figured it would make for a good video and it was a decent deal. Got a couple of laps out of it before passing it on... but yeah, definitely wouldn't do it again 😂
it makes you wonder why someone would paint the kayak, probably stolen ?
Its explained early in the video 😉
They make a product that should help. Graffiti Remover. It’s in a niche industry.
I think I actually have some of that, but didn't consider it. I wonder if it would tear up the plastic. I'll look into it!
lol, 6 hours + and still not done . Next time just work the OT hours at work and buy a more expensive better condition boat. at least this gave you content for a video.
You should have started with acetone.
Acetone does nothing to HDPE.
Now if you use acetone on ABS plastic you're going to have problems!....
Ok back to the vid. . .
gonna use this video to negotiate a lower price on used kayak. i don't care about looks, i care about functionality.
I'm surprised how tough some of it was bonding. I wonder if maybe because it was scratched and scuffed up before it gave it a better surface for paint to adhere to?
Also...don't be that douche floating down the river and paint flakes are coming off your boat into the water cause you spray painted it!
I'm a collision repair technician (body man) and I can tell you that getting paint to stick to plastic is basically magic.
Yeah, I've always heard that paint won't stick to HDPE, so I figured this was gonna be a super quick project. Not sure what kinda paint the guy used, or if maybe it cooked in the sun too much afterwards. It's definitely on there though!
@@blackspike2710 truth!
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