GOOD VIDEO AND ADVISE! I watched this during my 4.5" long arm install on my wj last sunday. If anyone is going to do the same I suggest you take the pitman arm off first before you start to cut off the stock brackets that connect to your original short arms. My instructions said to cut the brackets off than go to the pitman arm. Well... once you cut the original brackets off to prep for the new ones. you are now at the point of no return i learned after words. My pitman arm was not happy and would not come off. We spent well over 4 hours of hell trying to get that damn thing off. After lots of cussing and moral boosting, we prevailed and won the battle and it finally came off. After 19 hours and running on fumes we finished the lift. I learned a lot, but i will never do another lift again. If you have never put a lift on and are about to. My advise to you is be READY FOR BATTLE!
when taking the pitman arm off our 3500 dodge, we broke two pitman arm pullers lol we used a Hickey Bar on the end of a crescent wrench and had to physically walk around the front end pushing that bar to get the nut off. we also used a torch which did more work in a few seconds than we did tooling around for a half hour. amazing what a little heat will do
I am just now starting to replace the major steering component in my 09 Jeep JK. Most the work is easy to do. Basically you just have to remove a couple of nuts and bolts. The hardest part is to hammer, more hammer the various joints in order to remove the joints apart. Since I don't have a lift, there is little leverage to deliver a strong hammer blow when lying on the back and with limited arm movement. All the specialise tools can be rented from the local AutoZone.
I have had the same trouble with that type of pitman arm puller. There is a cone style puller that will work much better. Also... Subscribed to the Rough Country channel.
I can tell that the likely reason it got stuck is that the puller went uneven and the pitman got cockeyed coming off the splines. I suspect a tap back down along the viewers left side to straighten out the pitman on the splines would have done it.
The arm is simply a block of metal if the arm is rusted and falling apart replace it, if the arm seems to be in ok shape, or the same shape as your steering links you shouldn't have a need to replace it. If your leak is coming from the shaft you'll have to replace the seal alone but removing the arm is the only way to replace the seal. Overall if the pitman arm looking like arse, replace it, if you pitman just got the runs replace the seal.
Hi I have a question, I have a 2007 Jeep Wrangler jk and I change the tie rod where the pitman are now my car won't turn complete to bothside, what I have to do?
hey I just got a 2001 xj with a 3in lift and aftermarket draglink and tie rod assembly. the tie rod ends are shot. can i use oem tie rod ends? no manufacturers name on steering components
Hello BLEEPINJEEP I have a 92 yj wrangler I recently did a SOA on it I would like to change the pitman arm would you have the best option possible? I have been told to change it for a 98 xj cherokee is there a better option is that the best option for my YJ ? thanks for your advice and thank you for the videos. I already subscribed ! !
Amazing what a little heat will do LOL I just changed a box on my father-in-law's F250 and had the hardest time getting pitman arm off until I put some heat on it
I love the Bleepin Jeep videos for the most part. I know he doesn't always do things in a conventional way but the videos are not meant for those of us "in the know" but they are funny even when he's being extremely corny.
Installing a drop pitman arm means a failure in lift kit install and also means drop track bar bracket. This is a nono for building a jeep to drive like factory while being offroad capable
I subscribed. I was wanting on doing a video series like this for my 95 zj. But I can't afford the lift ha ha. But imagine cancer patient shows how to install 6.5 long arm lift.. ha ha
Should only use high quality tools that why it broke the one i used broke too but stripped the inside threads i had to her a hammer and torch and it came right off
Hey Matt! I just put a rough country Pitman arm drop all my 97 XJ 4.0 with a 4.5 lift, replaced all my tire rod ends and my drag link. I measured the old drag link from end to end and matched the new ones up. When I tried to install the new drag link into the Pitman arm it was about 1-2" to long. Do I keep the same length as my original drag link and tie rod or do I need to shorten them for the new Pitman drop arm? Thanks in advance, Nolen Hodges
I've always tightened the puller up a bit, smack the arm with a hammer a few times, then tighten some more and repeat till it pops off, comes off real easy
the way i got it off the drag link was unscrewing the tie rod end all the way off and then using an air hammer on it on the bench and it popped right out
hi I'm installing a new pitman arm on my tuck but when I try to tighten the nut that has the safety pin the nut go's on but then the whole bolt turns so I cant tighten the nut CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT ??
I did exactly everything you did and I still cannot get the pitman arm off the steering box I heated it I cut it I beat on it I just can't think of nothing else to do I've been working on this thing for two freaking weeks now and I'm about giving up
I was told a long time ago, before all this internet was available, You tighten the puller down, strike the bolt with a hammer, tighten some more . It will come off. Don't follow that, the puller will probably break.
Yup. Put a good amount of tension on it with the puller and then just a few sharp hits to break up the gunk and it pops right off. Same technique for a ball joint separator. The pullers are meant to apply a pulling force and the sharp blows to break the gunk holding it.
This is great you give more ideas to install the others part. Yesterday I install 4.5in front suspension lift kit of F250 diesel engine. But my customers buy the kit they don't have a catalog manual that's why I miss some parts when I can be installed it. I hope you send me at least a catalog manual and I can install fropelly and less time of my job as a Mechanic. Thank you.
this is the thing that happened to me when i was tying to get my pit-man arm off. what i did was put the puller on and titan it down before it stared to bend then i heated it up and then hit it with a big hammer it popes off then, lol it took all day to do that.
***** A pitman arm connects to the steering box (turns with the steering wheel) to the drag link. The drag link is a rod that goes between the pitman arm down to the knuckle on your axle. Basically via the drag link, the pitman arm/steering box pushes or pulls your knuckles one way or the other to turn your front tires left or right.
I've installed a Rubicon super ride 3.5 in lift with adjustable track bar. does anyone know if you really need to put on a 3.5 inch drop pitman arm? DM me if you know! 1999 XJ.😎👊
This is how NOT TO DO THIS. First soak the area with PB blaster for at least 30 mins. Put the tool on, tighten with a wrench till you know almost breaking pressure. Whack a mole once with a small sledge on the end of the tool nut and it breaks loose.
GOOD VIDEO AND ADVISE! I watched this during my 4.5" long arm install on my wj last sunday. If anyone is going to do the same I suggest you take the pitman arm off first before you start to cut off the stock brackets that connect to your original short arms. My instructions said to cut the brackets off than go to the pitman arm. Well... once you cut the original brackets off to prep for the new ones. you are now at the point of no return i learned after words. My pitman arm was not happy and would not come off. We spent well over 4 hours of hell trying to get that damn thing off. After lots of cussing and moral boosting, we prevailed and won the battle and it finally came off. After 19 hours and running on fumes we finished the lift. I learned a lot, but i will never do another lift again. If you have never put a lift on and are about to. My advise to you is be READY FOR BATTLE!
when taking the pitman arm off our 3500 dodge, we broke two pitman arm pullers lol we used a Hickey Bar on the end of a crescent wrench and had to physically walk around the front end pushing that bar to get the nut off. we also used a torch which did more work in a few seconds than we did tooling around for a half hour. amazing what a little heat will do
So does the pitman arm have a key-way or do you need to chalk it first to get the original setting ?
They usually have a different pattern of splines or some sort of alignment. They only go on one way for all of the ones I have done
Enjoyed all the methods you utilized in the removal of that stubborn arm. Good explanations and you held my attention.
rip headphone users. "and you can also make pretty music! DIIIIIING!" I about lost my ear drums lmao, great vid.
I am just now starting to replace the major steering component in my 09 Jeep JK. Most the work is easy to do. Basically you just have to remove a couple of nuts and bolts. The hardest part is to hammer, more hammer the various joints in order to remove the joints apart. Since I don't have a lift, there is little leverage to deliver a strong hammer blow when lying on the back and with limited arm movement. All the specialise tools can be rented from the local AutoZone.
I have had the same trouble with that type of pitman arm puller. There is a cone style puller that will work much better. Also... Subscribed to the Rough Country channel.
So want was wore the hole in the pitman arm or the other piece that went into the pitman arm
How do you tighten down the castle nut when the bolt in the grease joint turns with it?
I really enjoy all of your videos!
Could you do one on how to replace the rubber grease boots? Thanks!
I can tell that the likely reason it got stuck is that the puller went uneven and the pitman got cockeyed coming off the splines. I suspect a tap back down along the viewers left side to straighten out the pitman on the splines would have done it.
Thanks for this video. I broke a pitman arm puller and was about to cut it off. I'll try heating it.
Hose clamp on the puller so it does not slip of .love you're videos
When do you know whether to replace the arm, or just the seal?
The arm is simply a block of metal if the arm is rusted and falling apart replace it, if the arm seems to be in ok shape, or the same shape as your steering links you shouldn't have a need to replace it. If your leak is coming from the shaft you'll have to replace the seal alone but removing the arm is the only way to replace the seal.
Overall if the pitman arm looking like arse, replace it, if you pitman just got the runs replace the seal.
I took mine in for an alignment and they replaced the pitman at no extra charge. Best money ever spent! Suckers!
Hi I have a question, I have a 2007 Jeep Wrangler jk and I change the tie rod where the pitman are now my car won't turn complete to bothside, what I have to do?
10 minute vídeo.... 3 hour job.
3 day job*
@@eduardojdm-cb9un*3 week job
hey I just got a 2001 xj with a 3in lift and aftermarket draglink and tie rod assembly. the tie rod ends are shot. can i use oem tie rod ends? no manufacturers name on steering components
What size puller is needed for this. Going through the same thing..
Hello BLEEPINJEEP I have a 92 yj wrangler I recently did a SOA on it I would like to change the pitman arm would you have the best option possible? I have been told to change it for a 98 xj cherokee is there a better option is that the best option for my YJ ? thanks for your advice and thank you for the videos. I already subscribed ! !
Love the voiceover description @ 0:06 Goes well with the facial expressions! :)
SeattleJeff1 Totally missed this the first time through!
I've heard that sound before! usually immediately after getting hit in the head...
Amazing what a little heat will do LOL I just changed a box on my father-in-law's F250 and had the hardest time getting pitman arm off until I put some heat on it
Really an adjustable wrench
Why did you change that solid piece of steel. What goes wrong with that?
I love the Bleepin Jeep videos for the most part. I know he doesn't always do things in a conventional way but the videos are not meant for those of us "in the know" but they are funny even when he's being extremely corny.
Installing a drop pitman arm means a failure in lift kit install and also means drop track bar bracket. This is a nono for building a jeep to drive like factory while being offroad capable
So does the Pitman arm have key ways in the splines so it can only be installed one way or no?
yes
I subscribed. I was wanting on doing a video series like this for my 95 zj. But I can't afford the lift ha ha. But imagine cancer patient shows how to install 6.5 long arm lift.. ha ha
Should only use high quality tools that why it broke the one i used broke too but stripped the inside threads i had to her a hammer and torch and it came right off
This guy knows what he's doing
lol ok , but if you really knew what you were doing you would think this guy is lame,
would a propane torch work too, like the kind you use on copper soldering?
+m00nchildblues no, propane doesn't get hot enough.
Hey Matt! I just put a rough country Pitman arm drop all my 97 XJ 4.0 with a 4.5 lift, replaced all my tire rod ends and my drag link. I measured the old drag link from end to end and matched the new ones up. When I tried to install the new drag link into the Pitman arm it was about 1-2" to long. Do I keep the same length as my original drag link and tie rod or do I need to shorten them for the new Pitman drop arm?
Thanks in advance,
Nolen Hodges
I've always tightened the puller up a bit, smack the arm with a hammer a few times, then tighten some more and repeat till it pops off, comes off real easy
Did you notice any damage from using your torch
the way i got it off the drag link was unscrewing the tie rod end all the way off and then using an air hammer on it on the bench and it popped right out
my original pitman arm does not go on the new sector shaft as far as before.
Anyone had this issue before?
hi I'm installing a new pitman arm on my tuck but when I try to tighten the nut that has the safety pin the nut go's on but then the whole bolt turns so I cant tighten the nut CAN ANYONE HELP ME OUT ??
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I did exactly everything you did and I still cannot get the pitman arm off the steering box I heated it I cut it I beat on it I just can't think of nothing else to do I've been working on this thing for two freaking weeks now and I'm about giving up
Your not holding your mouth right
I broke 3 of those damn tools when i did this... after the 3ed one and i walked back into napa the faces of the people who worked there was hilarious.
Most pitman pullers have a rounded top on the bolt. Which is meant to be struck with a hammer.
That's what I thought
I was told a long time ago, before all this internet was available, You tighten the puller down, strike the bolt with a hammer, tighten some more . It will come off. Don't follow that, the puller will probably break.
Yup. Put a good amount of tension on it with the puller and then just a few sharp hits to break up the gunk and it pops right off. Same technique for a ball joint separator. The pullers are meant to apply a pulling force and the sharp blows to break the gunk holding it.
That cutting torch seemed like overkill
Had the same issue with my Jeep. You know what they say though, "if it aint broke don't fix it".
I have subscribed to rough country TV
This is great you give more ideas to install the others part. Yesterday I install 4.5in front suspension lift kit of F250 diesel engine. But my customers buy the kit they don't have a catalog manual that's why I miss some parts when I can be installed it. I hope you send me at least a catalog manual and I can install fropelly and less time of my job as a Mechanic. Thank you.
this is the thing that happened to me when i was tying to get my pit-man arm off. what i did was put the puller on and titan it down before it stared to bend then i heated it up and then hit it with a big hammer it popes off then, lol it took all day to do that.
Hamer works for me every time
what's the purpose of a pitman arm?
***** A pitman arm connects to the steering box (turns with the steering wheel) to the drag link. The drag link is a rod that goes between the pitman arm down to the knuckle on your axle. Basically via the drag link, the pitman arm/steering box pushes or pulls your knuckles one way or the other to turn your front tires left or right.
No anti-seize? You'll be back in the same situation if you have to remove it again to replace that seal.
Once you have tension hit with BFH!
Do you strike the end of the bolt on the puller?
Do I absolutely NEED that Pitman Arm Puller? Because, I don't have one.
By the way, you sound like Mr. Rogers.
Rent one
You do need it. In the rust belt it might not even work either.
Strike the head of the pitman puller bolt once the puller is nice and tight and the pitman will come off everytime.
Do you strike the end of the bolt on the puller?
@@salc1300 yup, hit it like you are trying to drive it into the steering shaft.
@@WrightPerf thanks buddy...
Did that definitely didnt work.
Deep creep and have a beer. Then repeat what you did. Oh and anti seize that baby when you put it back on. Great video.
How u doing bro why did u replace the pit man arm , is part of the maintenance or it was defective?
It's a drop pitman arm which corrects the steering geometry after adding a lift.
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Crescent wrench with a big pipe, really?
Whatever works
The tool elitist chimes in
Could always buy a 3 foot breaker bar from Snap-on for $400
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Hey, great video, thanks, it really helped me out!
better order another ball joint for the steering rod - it wont survive long with a torn boot.
Thnk u I cut it off they are a pain
bang that thing unbent and weld a brace on your puller...then wack the arm when its good and tight
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Pitman nut size ????????????
Whoever put that pitman arm on in the first place should have used anti seize on the splines.
crestent wrench my asss
Do not heat it, big no go. Use a hydraulic puller.
HEAT.
R.I.P. earbud users @ 1:26
Subbed n donated. Thanks!
Put anti-seize for next time
I've installed a Rubicon super ride 3.5 in lift with adjustable track bar. does anyone know if you really need to put on a 3.5 inch drop pitman arm? DM me if you know! 1999 XJ.😎👊
If you want to upload a how to video at least used the proper tools for the job..
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Subscribed to bleepinjeep and roughcountrytv!!
i broke two breaker bars trying to get the nut off...
He's no professional. he did pretty much everything wrong.... he did eventually get it done though...
So he did it all, but not to your standard... Ok
hard job lol. good job.
This is a perfect video of what NOT to do while removing pit-arm. Sorry my friend but good try
Why are you here watching it then?
Heat gun would be more precise than the flame thrower..
And like no temperature shock whatsoever
This is how NOT TO DO THIS. First soak the area with PB blaster for at least 30 mins. Put the tool on, tighten with a wrench till you know almost breaking pressure. Whack a mole once with a small sledge on the end of the tool nut and it breaks loose.
So, then why are you here watching it?
I subscribed
Adjustable spanner and a cheater bar? Buy a socket set ffs
Rip ears
Well that didn’t help
Unbelievable
For sure this ain't no Truck!!
*OW*
Call this video "How not to"
first?
my ears arrrghhh
i had full volume up with headphones
the fork aaarrrrgghhhh
JK