How to Plumb a Dishwasher Not Next to a Sink
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- ***DISCLAIMER*** This may not be an approved method for install in your local jurisdiction. There are risks to this style of installation. There is no air gap so if the sewer system gets backed up it could back up into the dishwasher. Also, although there is a built in system to stop sewer gases from getting into the dishwasher, some say this is NOT enough and the drain should be plumbed into the drainage system after a PVC P trap. In this episode of Down to the Frame we go over step by step how to plumb a dishwasher that is not next to a sink.
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Please take this video down before you get someone sick or wipe out a town.Sewer gas can potentially seep back thru solenoid and wash with dishes. Who doesnt like the taste of waste with there steak and potatoes? The most concerning of the issues is no air gap you could potentially wipe out you neighborhood if your sewer backs up and your on city water.There is a reason for backflow protection look at all the deaths its caused in just America .You guys seem like good folks and i commend your efforts.This has no place on DIY videos.Its frankly unsafe to you and your family and potentially others.
Interesting! i’ve talked to a few plumbers about this installation and they were not majorly concerned about it. Certainly no concerns about wiping out a neighborhood. Sounds like you might have some experience! How long have you been a plumber for?
@@DownToTheFrame Only been a master plumber for 22 years but roughly about 27 years of total experience.Carried a backflow license for roughly 20 of them years.Im give you a few examples from just the united states your more than welcome to research them all public information.Michigan state university college of bacteriology lab forget the year claimed 80 lives,Chicago illinois had three outbreaks in 1833 and one in 1935 killed over 100 people.Not trying to scare you by any means there all different from your situation but backflow and cross connections are serious stuff.Other good info for you would be to check out the " safe drinking water act".Sir your content is good i watched whole video you a have a talent to entertain !!But not an area you have expertise in for sure.
@@donlusby3283I don’t think many people have nearly as much expertise as you my friend! Great tips and great info. However, if I take the video down then people won’t see this information. So what I think might be a better option is to add a disclaimer in the video description. Stating that this method has serious risks and list the necessity for a P trap and air gap. What are your thoughts on that?
Sounds like a great idea on disclaimer my man!! Enjoy your electrical apprenticeship!! Keep up the entertaining content.
That's good you guys are having fun and laugh at your mistakes,👍. I always end up mad and it's not fun anymore.
haha we always try to stay positive
not trying to spoil the fun and totally understand that your not Plumberz but that drain hook up needs a p-trap to prevent sewer gases from coming back in. Also that new branch ( Y ) you installed is not vented so when you run water down the drain that you teed off from the weight from the water will suck the dishwasher hose drain and or p trap dry. Also the new water shut off valve is not easily accesible for service or leaks.
All great tips! There are for sure some things that can be changed. Might do an update video in the future. However, no smells or problems so far.
I’m trying to install a drip tray (for a beer tap) and a dishwasher but I only have a sing bowl and only have room for 1 standpipe. Any ideas?
Would a cheater vent work in the basement floor joist cavity? Or would it need to be at the top of the cabinet just below the countertop?
Thank you for this video. I live in a 107 yr old house with no dishwasher. My options are to destroy cabinets next to the sink to get a dishwasher in, leaving an unregular sized small opening next to it... Or, install a dishwasher on the other side where there is no cabinetry, next to the fridge, just like your situation. The latter is the best option because I have access to electric, water, and drain on that side. It will be cheaper to do it this way because the cabinets won't have to be cut and reconstructed. You just gave me hope!
I think you got it all figured out! I’m glad the video shined some light on the situation. Best of luck Joanie!
@@DownToTheFrame You guys just solved my dilemma! I have the same exact situation as the lady Joanie in the comments and now I finally have the courage to do this!
Im about to do exactly this. The kitchen looks the same, the fridge is in the same spot, and the dishwasher is going in the same spot. There are even basment stairs right behind it. Thanks for taking the time to show us.
You’re most certainly welcome! Good luck, have fun, and put time into the details!
I thought this was going to be a heck of a project but you were lucky to have the drain in just the right spot.
Yes, we were very lucky. It also helps that we don’t have a finished basement.
You connected a dishwasher and a refrigerator with the same supply line. So either you are sending hot water to the ice maker and potable water in the refrigerator or you are washing your dishes with cold water. Also, insulation in the basement was installed upside down. Vapor barrier goes towards the heated side.
I’m glad you have such a sharp eye!
Im about to do this. Thanks, guys!! You did a good job! Hopefully, I'll do just as good as you guys did!
Thank you! You’re going to do great!
Awesome video. About to try this in my island in my 70+ year old house!
Thank you! and that’s awesome! I hope it goes smoothly!
congratulations on your apprenticeship 👍👍👌
Thank you so much Richard!
Did you guys even look up codes at all ?
Great question! Did you see something that is against code in our jurisdiction?
Thank you so much for this video it’s exactly what I’m about to do 😊 great job guys 😊❤️
You’re welcome Ginny!
I have the same problem at my old home. Do I rip out the cabinet and have to get an 18” dishwasher next to the sink. Or build shelving against the wall and put a matching marble countertop on top and install a regular 24” dishwasher. I feel it would be better to do it like y’all did, away from the sink in my case. Plus I would have more countertop space. Thanks for the video guys.
You’re welcome! I think our location has worked out great. No problems with the operation of it. Sometimes a little water gets on the floor when moving the dishes over from the sink but that’s it!
Very cool video! On the other side of my kitchen, is a half bath and the sink is right next to the wall. It's an old house (1925) and I'm wondering how crazy it would be to run the plumbing into the bathroom water & drainage setup.
If it’s closer then I would probably do that lol just try to pipe the plumbing in before the P trap. Good luck!
Great content guys! Please post more videos!
Thank you the kind words! We have a bunch of videos coming up!
Please anyone watching this
Everything about this video is wrong
Sharkbite makes a separate fitting specifically for poly…
That drain for the dishwasher needs to go into a p-trap
Great tips! Are you a plumber?
Cool i need to add dishwasher with existing cabinet then 7ft away from sink but i got basement so i will need to do some plumbing but that tail pipe im looking for. Then need to add oulet. What kind of dishwasher did you get? Looking to buy GE or kitchen aid
I got a Whirl pool from BestBuy. It was cheap and it’s been working like a champ!
That realization when you had the wrong size T fitting 😂 been there too many times
Hahaha it’s never a good feeling 😅 thankfully we didn’t do this late at night.
So youre just gonna allow sewer gases directly into the dishwasher without a trap.
Great question! No I believe I left in the portion of the video where I explain that the drain hose attached to the side of the dishwasher is the “P trap”. The flexible drain hose is looped in a way that traps water in it similar to a P trap. This, in theory, should prevent any sewer gases from backing up through that hose.
@@DownToTheFrame not code
Well we are not licensed plumbers and this is our private home. Make sure to check with a plumber in your area if you plan on installing a dishwasher similar to ours.
@@DownToTheFrame how did this work out? Did you need to go back and install a separate pvc trap or did the hose work out? I am looking to do a similar install with a dishwasher located on another wall from the sink in a concrete house (so only way to connect to the sink would be to run the drain outside then back in) but just need to know if i should install a separate p trap here or not
@@kyleculbertson8991 I have been running it they way it was installed in the video. I have not had any sewer gas smells. I am fairly confident that there won’t be. However, if the code in your area requires a P trap, and you want to do it as close to code as possible, then yes you would need to either install a P Trap somewhere or run your line all the way to the sink.
Great video. I have a similar set up. Quick question: is a high loop necessary for this setup or no?
I would for sure use a P-trap or high loop. Need to make sure the sewer gases don’t get back into the house
You Need a trap , if main line is clogged, all that may go to the dishwasher or sewer Gas.
It is for sure best practice to pipe it into an area that has a trap on it.
Nice job guys!
Thank you Troy!
Better check that crimped gas line bro
No worries bro! I removed it already!
Sweet nice job guy's!!!@DownToTheFrame
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Wait? Did you hook up cold water to a dishwasher?
I have to be honest with you I thought I did but when the dishwasher runs it is real hot so idk if the dishwasher warms it up or i tapped into the hot water line lol
Is that a 24” cabinet next to the sink?
Yes, the front face of the cabinet is 24in
Did you say you don’t want too much pitch? How about your pipe going straight down?
…. that part is fine lol
Is it difficult having the dishwasher behind your sink? Having to turn and load it?
Gonna be honest, water does get on the floor a bit 😅 but it was an easier solution for me than tearing out cabinets.
@@DownToTheFrame thanks for responding. I am going to have a similar situation in a new kitchen buildi do to space, but it will be directly right behind me. Not optimal situation but with limited space there was no other choice.
In addition to the issues raised by Daniel Santa Cruz, code requires a dishwasher to have an air gap. If your sewer backs up the way it is connected, your dishwasher could be filled with shit.
An interesting idea! i’ll maybe have to make an update video!
More and more jurisdictions are allowing high loops in place of air gaps
Just a quick question was that hot water or cold as you said you were hooking it up to the fridge as well? Thanks
It is a cold water line! Sorry should have made that clear. I have heard of people hooking up the dishwasher to hot water but in my opinion it makes the dishwasher less energy efficient.
@@DownToTheFrame oh yeah really can you explain why?? 🇨🇦♥️ I’ve always thought it was the hot water line. I appreciate you responding so now I will be a subscriber!!
@@rossmontreal4570 haha of course! We are very glad to have you here! The Energy star rating that comes on the machine is more than likely tested while using only the internal electric water heater in the dishwasher. If you use hot water that is heated via a gas hot water heater then the unit becomes less energy efficient. Some people like this option though. I believe it is because they think the dishes will be cleaner if it’s hooked up to a hot water line.
@@DownToTheFrame okay thanks sir I’ll have the read the manual for the dishwasher then to make sure if it’s rated for cold or hot water I guess. You guys just save my ass the wife would have not been happy if I mess up her machine!! ♥️
@@rossmontreal4570 hahaha well we are very glad we could help! Good luck and let us know how it goes!
That may work but it does not meet code
How so?
great work guys
Thank you Mike!
We are just not gonna worry about the sewer gas coming back up since it’s not going into a ptrap?
Great question! I asked a plumber and they said that the washer has a built in P trap but some code makes you connect it to another one
Me a simple housewife thinking that this was going to be easy 😂😂😂 time to call a plumber
Sometimes calling a tradesperson is just the best way to go! Less headache and liability.
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Still here! Busy life right now but we are coming back soon!
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Dishwasher need to be connected to the garbage disposal. The t on there back will get you cloge and you will have shit water washing dishes and also the sewer smell will go in your dishwasher and your dishwasher will start smelling like shit 😂😂😂😂😂
Most installs I have seen them T before the P trap on the sink but I have used my dishwasher for a year now and it has worked flawlessly with no smell. The built in P trap on the dishwasher is doing great.
There's a one way valve where the drain comes out of the dishwasher. Nothing will back up into the the dishwasher. No gas, no water!
Lol a “thirty”. Yeah I can tell you aren’t a plumber
Lol you’re correct! I hope we made that clear!
yes there guys are good
Thank you!
Wrong way to do it !
GASP!