@@michaelbedford8017 Yes, both manual-wind and automatic watches are mechanical. But in this vid we are discussing specifically the Hamilton Khaki Automatic and Khaki Mechanical, the name of their hand-wound watch
@@l_poci_I can totally see that. But the lingo implies we’re going to find out which one is better. They literally say “let’s find out”. Was just expecting to get an opinion, that’s all.
I wear a hand made miniature sundial on my wrist. It is hand carved from a single piece of beautiful quartz. It is both quartz and mechanical. However it is difficult to read at night.
Depends on which watch you like. If it’s the original military issue go mechanical to keep true to its history. All others, automatic is more convenient.
I've got the handwound Hamilton Field Khaki watch and love it. Simple and thin. Less to go wrong. I'm expecting it will last years longer without servicing than an automatic, which will need more frequent servicing.
I don’t put too much love into automatics. I used to only buy them but there are a couple of things to consider. If you are getting into watches and intend on owning a few, even with a good power reserve if you don’t wear your automatic for a few days it will have stopped anyway. So if youre that type of wearer the difference between hand wind or automatic is irrelevant. Secondly if you’re buying automatics at the lower end they will possibly be a few minutes out after a week of wear, so again having to reset it anyway/use the crown anyway.
In the watch community, we refer to them as mechanical (or mechanical hand-wound) and mechanical automatic. Rolex prefers perpetual to convey automatic.
If you're wearing the watch daily, it's better to go with an automatic (or kinetic, solar, or battery-powered). But if it's a watch that you only wear once in a while, like a dress watch for formal occasions, it's better to just get a manual wind.
My Hamilton, khaki automatic on bracelet is one of my favorites… Other than the poor Lume and the noticeable lack of anti-reflective coating. It’s an otherwise perfect watch IMO
You don't find out! The automatic would have a more consistent spring tension and thus have a more reliable time. The hand wound watch would be fast at the height of the spring wind and slower once the spring is used up. The hand wound mechanical watch would be expected to have more day to day variation because of this.
Of Cors automatic lar 1. No need to wind - alwiz running as long u wear them 2. No need to be afraid like when the manual juice will die off n being late 3. Overwind manual watch will spoil the mvt
Wind up watch always better but, winding model is irreversible when the watch case is sandblasted and scratched, therefore the standard automatic watch is better because the brush steel and polishing structure can be cleaned , I always recommend brush steel case models to those who are considering Hamilton.
Nice video. Not gravity - For a mass M with tangential speed v at radius R, the centripetal force is Fc = Mv2/R. With a period of T, the linear speed is v = 2πR/T and the centripetal force is Fc = 4π2MR/T2. You will change Fc, mass, and radius to measure the effect on the period of rotation.
Well... For a tiny amount of extra time per day, you have to wind it, but its cheaper to buy, without less quality, and thinner aswell. So, I'd argue manual winding mechanical watches are better in terms of value.
Auto is my default recommendation. Hand wound is a niche thing. If you're a first time buyer you might THINK winding sounds fun but the fun quickly wore off for me
Mechanical watches are the relics of the past. Its the mechanical era where electricity was not used or minimally used, watches, cars, fountain pens, pendulum clocks etc. Everything was made from hand. Good times... everything was a bit slower. Internet and smartphones changed it all.
I go for khaki quartz, Super accurate with zero quirk, Grab it and it shows you the time right on your face while the auto and mechanical shows you the watch LOL
Hamilton Kakhi Field Mechanical, owning one it's a cool watch with true historical roots. It's the cheapest one of my collection but it's not à cheap watch by any mean
The only concern with an automatic is loosing its power after setting it down for a day or two. A hand wind you just get it going for a bit and adjust the time and your off! The advantage of the automatic is that you don’t have to wind it everyday, but some folks liken that hand winding to a ritual. Honestly both are marvels in engineering because we can boast as humans that “we made something that small that can keep time for us!” Plus, there are winding casses for those that don’t wear their automatic everyday.
Honestly a hand wind watch would be useless to me since I would never remember to wind it the automatic is where it's at for me but since I can't afford any good automatic watches I stick to higher-priced quartz watches.
Orient make good automatic watches. Some models like the Bambino and a few diving watches are right around $200. For a little more, $600-800 Tissot has some nice options as well.
The rotor doesn't care about gravity. It's turned by inertia. You move your arm, the rotor moves also, you stop your arm, however the rotor keeps moving.
I thought it was stupid that people always fuck up automatic manual and mechanical, some people think “automatic” MEANS mechanical because thats what is listed on watch websites but guess what? HAMILTON CALLS THIS MECHANICAL NOT MANUAL.
Thank you, that's exactly right. Manual wind and automatics are two types of mechanical watches but like you said, Hamilton calls the manual wind Khaki the Khaki Mechanical
I don't understand why Automatic has to be written on the dial., you can see it is automatic just by turning it over. It is like writing automatic transmission or manual transmission on the back of your car. And even if the back cover on the watch is solid, they can still write automatic on the back cover, instead of the dial. Other watches do the same shit. Rolex, chronometer officially certified. written on the dial. Why? just put it on the back cover.
Mechanical watches are better if you are not going to wear your watch everyday, automatic need movement else they go crazy, not just stop working, they don't start working when you start wearing them again.
Automatic watches are still mechanical... I think you meant to say "automatic vs hand-winding"
That is true, however, Hamilton specifically calls their hand-wind Khaki the Khaki Mechanical
@@ChronometerCheck ok that's kind of understandable
Yes; automatics are also mechanical.
The confusion arose purely from YT being overwhelmed by people who knew F-all about watches.
@@michaelbedford8017 Yes, both manual-wind and automatic watches are mechanical. But in this vid we are discussing specifically the Hamilton Khaki Automatic and Khaki Mechanical, the name of their hand-wound watch
@@ChronometerCheck thats fucking idiotic
Must’ve missed the part where we find out which is better.
Yep, obviously a clickbait guy, not worth following
There isnt one answer, it up to you to decide which is more suited to you, he gave you the advantages of each, you decide
@@l_poci_ Spot on
@@l_poci_I can totally see that. But the lingo implies we’re going to find out which one is better. They literally say “let’s find out”. Was just expecting to get an opinion, that’s all.
Fag
I wear a hand made miniature sundial on my wrist. It is hand carved from a single piece of beautiful quartz.
It is both quartz and mechanical.
However it is difficult to read at night.
I can't tell if you're joking or not. But either way that's awsome!
Depends on which watch you like. If it’s the original military issue go mechanical to keep true to its history. All others, automatic is more convenient.
I've got the handwound Hamilton Field Khaki watch and love it. Simple and thin. Less to go wrong. I'm expecting it will last years longer without servicing than an automatic, which will need more frequent servicing.
Do you know if, in general, the hand wound version is more accurate? or is it negligible?
@danielvalles9554 did you know that quartz watches are far more accurate and need no service at all?
@@mamadzregular battery replacement. They suck!
@@MountainRancher suck?
Dude u just need to replace it once in 10 years! And it cost you nothing!
The automatic has a higher water resistance than the manual so I went with the auto.
I have a battery powered watch on rn and an automatic one coming as a graduation present. I can't wait to see how it wears!
Exciting! I hope you love it.
I wish Hamilton will issue this in 36mm like a true reissue and 100m WR, plus brushed finish instead of the blasted finish
Honestly, they're both the same. Hamilton has an insane 80 hour power reserve, meaning it runs 80 hour without a winding for mechanical.
That's impressive
I don’t put too much love into automatics. I used to only buy them but there are a couple of things to consider.
If you are getting into watches and intend on owning a few, even with a good power reserve if you don’t wear your automatic for a few days it will have stopped anyway. So if youre that type of wearer the difference between hand wind or automatic is irrelevant.
Secondly if you’re buying automatics at the lower end they will possibly be a few minutes out after a week of wear, so again having to reset it anyway/use the crown anyway.
I love both, as stated below, both are mechanical, I wear manual wind HTM, or grand Seiko automatic.
Aren’t they both mechanical as opposed to quartz/digital? Automatic vs manual wind perhaps?
Yeah, they're both mechanical. Hamilton specifically calls the hand-wound Khaki the "Khaki Mechanical" and the other the "Khaki Automatic", however.
In the watch community, we refer to them as mechanical (or mechanical hand-wound) and mechanical automatic. Rolex prefers perpetual to convey automatic.
Internet is littered with posts, comments, reviews of the Khaki mechanical having a notoriously bad mainspring. I’d take the auto all day long.
Thanks. I did not know that.
If you're wearing the watch daily, it's better to go with an automatic (or kinetic, solar, or battery-powered). But if it's a watch that you only wear once in a while, like a dress watch for formal occasions, it's better to just get a manual wind.
I own a Field Khaki Titanium with no complications. I love it's simplicity. If they had made it in manual winding, I would have bought it instead.
Lol it would weigh even less. Lord you’d never know it was on.
My Hamilton, khaki automatic on bracelet is one of my favorites… Other than the poor Lume and the noticeable lack of anti-reflective coating. It’s an otherwise perfect watch IMO
It’s not gravity so much. It’s impulse and momentum. An automatic watch can still technically work in space if you are moving your hands
Fair point!
Exactly
Kinetic energy.
You don't find out! The automatic would have a more consistent spring tension and thus have a more reliable time. The hand wound watch would be fast at the height of the spring wind and slower once the spring is used up. The hand wound mechanical watch would be expected to have more day to day variation because of this.
That's not necessarily true due to isochronism.
This guy knows his simple harmonic motion@@johng.6222
@@johng.6222he’s used to wind up cars
The first one should I ever owned was a wind-up watch. I have an automatic watch now. I like them both.
Yeah they both have their pros and cons
Of Cors automatic lar
1. No need to wind - alwiz running as long u wear them
2. No need to be afraid like when the manual juice will die off n being late
3. Overwind manual watch will spoil the mvt
Mechanical forces you to interact with your watch more. Something nostalgic about having to wind up a watch on the daily.
Great concise explanation!
Thank you very much! Glad it was helpful
Wind up watch always better but, winding model is irreversible when the watch case is sandblasted and scratched, therefore the standard automatic watch is better because the brush steel and polishing structure can be cleaned , I always recommend brush steel case models to those who are considering Hamilton.
Where did you get that nato on the mechanical?
Nice video. Not gravity - For a mass M with tangential speed v at radius R, the centripetal force is Fc = Mv2/R. With a period of T, the linear speed is v = 2πR/T and the centripetal force is Fc = 4π2MR/T2. You will change Fc, mass, and radius to measure the effect on the period of rotation.
Thanks! Good detailed explanation
Well... For a tiny amount of extra time per day, you have to wind it, but its cheaper to buy, without less quality, and thinner aswell. So, I'd argue manual winding mechanical watches are better in terms of value.
Auto is my default recommendation. Hand wound is a niche thing. If you're a first time buyer you might THINK winding sounds fun but the fun quickly wore off for me
Quartz is better, just keep a spare battery around. Perfect SHTF kinda watch, something with fiber reinforced resin, from Bertucci would be perfect.
For me hand/manual winding is better...more accurate than self winding
I rather have the automatic ver of that Khaki Field. Seen some people overwind the manual version and broke the watch mechanism. 😅
I like automatics as long as there is hand wind capability.
Mechanical watches are the relics of the past. Its the mechanical era where electricity was not used or minimally used, watches, cars, fountain pens, pendulum clocks etc. Everything was made from hand. Good times... everything was a bit slower. Internet and smartphones changed it all.
I like the mechanicals for going into the field
Much slimmer on the wrist
I go for khaki quartz,
Super accurate with zero quirk,
Grab it and it shows you the time right on your face while the auto and mechanical shows you the watch LOL
Water resistance to one side, which watch is more durable I.e. will generally take more of a daily beating?
what's the exact name of the Hamilton with the nato strap on, the watch itself looks amazing!
Hamilton Kakhi Field Mechanical, owning one it's a cool watch with true historical roots. It's the cheapest one of my collection but it's not à cheap watch by any mean
Hamilton Khaki Mechanical 38mm (strap is third party)
You got it buddy. Thank you
@@ChronometerCheck thanks to you all 😄
The only concern with an automatic is loosing its power after setting it down for a day or two. A hand wind you just get it going for a bit and adjust the time and your off!
The advantage of the automatic is that you don’t have to wind it everyday, but some folks liken that hand winding to a ritual.
Honestly both are marvels in engineering because we can boast as humans that “we made something that small that can keep time for us!”
Plus, there are winding casses for those that don’t wear their automatic everyday.
So? Which one is it?
Quartz watches are the best. Since they keep accurate time.
Yes
YES
Mechanical watch always it makes a personal collection with the watch which result in a strange relationship with watches and their beauty
I don't think it matters I think it depends on number one how much u want to spend and number two how thick of a watch u want
I have CITIZEN brand which was purchased 40+years back . What may be its price ? And there is a littel scratch on display
I would check on the sold listings of this watch on ebay to check
@@ChronometerCheck pls check sir
Give me the mechanical hamilton every day. Generally though makes sense to go auto.
Are either of these watches EMP proof?
Yes.
automatic watches are powered by themselves?
An automatic is more accurate because the mainspring holds it winding better...
What did we find out was better?
Love your voice
Thanks so much!
Can the automatic version still be hand wound?
Honestly a hand wind watch would be useless to me since I would never remember to wind it the automatic is where it's at for me but since I can't afford any good automatic watches I stick to higher-priced quartz watches.
Orient make good automatic watches. Some models like the Bambino and a few diving watches are right around $200. For a little more, $600-800 Tissot has some nice options as well.
Self Winding vs Hand Winding
The rotor doesn't care about gravity. It's turned by inertia.
You move your arm, the rotor moves also, you stop your arm, however the rotor keeps moving.
That is partially correct. The rotor is weighted to naturally oscillate downward and helps build inertia when self-winding
So which is better?
Mechanic
"lets find out!" didn't found anything out.
you're slow as hell
All automatic watches are mechanical but not all mechanical watches are automatic. So, this nomenclature is not wrong IMO...
I personally prefer the mechanical watch, as you physically have to wind it makes it more personal somehow.
Is that an aftermarket strap on the khali auto?
Mechanical is better if the power reserve lasts several days.
I thought it was stupid that people always fuck up automatic manual and mechanical, some people think “automatic” MEANS mechanical because thats what is listed on watch websites but guess what?
HAMILTON CALLS THIS MECHANICAL NOT MANUAL.
Thank you, that's exactly right. Manual wind and automatics are two types of mechanical watches but like you said, Hamilton calls the manual wind Khaki the Khaki Mechanical
What is the meaning of 21 JEWEL or 25 JEWEL sir?
Jewels are little bearings inside of the movement to reduce friction between the parts
mechanical Hamilton has a 80-hour power reserve. Wind every 3 days
Mechanical is better, it makes a pleasant micro clicking sound when you wind it
Thing with a mechanical watch is that you can overwind it
He did not answer his question.
❤ my quartz
An automatic is actually a MECHANICAL self-winding watch.
Mechanical watches are either ( Automatic ) Self-winding or Hand-winding watches 😊
Which one better? Well... Quartz still the best... 😁 More cheaper practical, & accurate.
Man, I swear everyone have the same voice now
THEY COPIED ME BRO
I like mechanical 👍 But automatic cool too👍
Automatic is more practical. Just appreciate the idea that my movement powers the watch.
You never give an opinion on which one is best
Automatic is overrated IMO. I still hand wind my automatics because I suffer from power reserve anxiety lol. I NEED to know it's full
Personally love mechanical watches
some people prefer the connection of having a mechanical watch
Yup, winding it is kind of soothing
Gravity is not required to wind an automatic, inertia works 👌
I don't understand why Automatic has to be written on the dial., you can see it is automatic just by turning it over.
It is like writing automatic transmission or manual transmission on the back of your car.
And even if the back cover on the watch is solid, they can still write automatic on the back cover, instead of the dial.
Other watches do the same shit.
Rolex, chronometer officially certified. written on the dial. Why? just put it on the back cover.
Both types are a PAIN when you have 8 of them...
Mechanical watches are better if you are not going to wear your watch everyday, automatic need movement else they go crazy, not just stop working, they don't start working when you start wearing them again.
They don't go crazy . Most modern automatic watches can also be hand wound .
Jesus the shine on that automatic Hamilton is shocking.
Funny thing i have automatic watches without manual winding 🤦
Yeah, it's a feature that's not in all automatics, but convenient when it is
This is the interstellar watch!
buy the quartz version and dont worry about it for two years . simple.
Finally..we didn't find which
It's up to you, of course
I’d just go for quartz ngl
Ay
Solar quartz much better.
Well, if you like a decorated movement hand wound mechanical every time..
Eco drive
Quartz is better
Thiner
Lighter
Automatic is better than manual winding
Gravity is a theory
It possible to oversing and damage the watch, so auto is better.
Automatic watches are way better, you don't have to worry about over winding the watch
You look like Larry from Orange is the New Black 😂
They are both mechanical.
It has a reason that the mechanical is higher priced !🤔
Did I miss something???
the manual is smaller and cheaper, that's my preference
I love its thin profile!
Automatic
I’m too lazy to wind
Skelton watch automatic