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In this clip, Gilbert Arenas spoke about the Warriors winning the Finals, which led to questions about Steph Curry being in the GOAT conversation. Gilbert explained that Curry “is slighted because he’s little,” adding that the smaller guys in the NBA aren’t usually considered in the conversation, despite their talent. Gilbert then added that Curry also isn’t known for dunking, unlike players like Michael Jordan. From there, Gilbert agreed with Vlad about Mayweather being “the Curry of boxing,” because his fights aren’t that exciting, but he has a perfect record. Gilbert also stated that Curry is the “king” of NBA players that are 6’3” and under. To hear more, including Gilbert speaking about why some boxers don’t think Mayweather should be considered in GOAT conversation because of his number of fights, hit the above clip.
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Geez watching Steph is spectacular... Every 3 he knocks down is equivalent to a dunk in terms of crowd/team energy.
I know ray allen , Miller and bird all got appreciated for their shot . But curry made shooting 3s a highlight 😂. Stepbacks , half court , over 2-3 people , etc
And it’s soooo deflating to the other teams momentum especially if they are made back to back.. lol
Yea weird segment. Steph is Floyd. If floyd beat heavyweights. Steph is beating the 6 9 guys
There seem to be only three types of G.O.A.T.s
1. The undersized players who don't get appreciated yet have unparalleled fundamental skills.
John stockton, Allen Iverson and Steph curry.
2. Then you have the group of players that are average sized for the sport who tend to be the only ones bought in during GOAT conversations.
Jordan, Bryant and Lebron.
3. Then there are the larger than life G.O.A.T.S who so oversized we write off they accomplishments because of how easy they make it look due to their stature.
Kareem, Shaq, Bill Russell, Chamberlain.
This needs to be pinned
This whole entire statement is valid but I just can’t help but get annoyed as to how you skipped a good list of folks and went straight to John Stockton lol
@@deez9805 for one thing I didn't name anything but three or four examples of each, and how you annoyed that I picked the all-time assist leader?
@@deez9805 The man had a season in which he had more games with 20+ assists than games with less than 10 assists. That's crazy. #1 all time in assists and steals as well. Baron Davis talks about how strong he was on the court and how he was great at always getting to his spots on the floor. He's highly underrated.
Isiah Thomas(pistons) is better than Stockton
*Gil actually makes a good point here. I’ve met people who actually feel like if you’re not in the highlight reel dunking on people and breaking ankles than you’re not as good as the person who is.*
They’re not of the culture though. They usually stopped hooping in 7th grade
@@michaelbonhomme3219 love this
Every kid wants to shoot from half court now this is very wrong
Stop lying. You just like curry. You don't know anybody saying somebody isn't the goat because they aren't dunking or have highlights. That dumb shxx was first said by Gilbert arenas in this video. Stop it 🤣
@@michaelbonhomme3219 facts
Ima have to disagree, the young kids are looking at 3 pointers now how we looked at dunking. Of course dunking is something everyone wants to do, but it’s not a determining factor like it used to be.
Dunking is the easiest shot in basketball .. i can't remember the dunk being a DETERMINING SHOT... HAHAHA wtf are u on... U mean to tell me nggas was hitting game winning dunks in ur era????
@@make-outseries831 dunks views as the signature of basketball, Curry made it about shooting 3s, back in the days just 2015 and under it was all about dunking when people talked about impact moments in a game, Curry did that for 3s to the point there is a saying for it now we call the danger 3 to close out games
@@make-outseries831 lmfao game winning dunks 😂
Ok if u disagree then who’s your answer 🤔
Ok I replied to your comment based on the video title , after watching the clip I see u were disagreeing with Gil saying kids would put Steph last cuz he can’t dunk , I’m with u … Gil is wrong , it’s a new era
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Steph will never get his full credit but in the Bay Area we appreciate his greatness
Steph is definitely top 10 in my eyes. He changed the game in such an efficient way.
Top 10 What Dude Is A Defensive Liability
@@lilmaniakdagotti0309 yet, he keeps winning.
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Floyd knocked out all his opponents early in his career until he started having problems with his hands and then he transitioned into point fighting and being just the defensive wizard
Floyd was never a power guy, he was always a pure boxer plus as you move up in weight class & fight bigger & stronger guys it gets harder to knock them out.
They always forget that
@the Sambo official how many fights u have?
He got older and slower
And he was at the top so he started selectively choosing his opponents, or waiting for them to decline like Pacquiao
Kids definitely not asking if you can dunk now these kids KNOW STEPH CURRY and everyone tries to mimick Steph
Gilbert "you gotta remember" Arenas - always love his takes
Honestly I hate when they put categories on greatness. Oh he’s the “Goat 6’3 & under” no he’s one of the greatest period, forget the height & the p4p BS we will never see nobody like steph again.
He didn't say Steph wasn't one of the greatest
He amazing but no. He not the goat. I’m sorry. If kd never joined tbh lebron would’ve won 2 more. Let’s be serious here. Lebron was better than both splash brothers in their prime. Went 6 games with them if jr or shump hit a 3 lebron would be ringed up. Then after the L they confidence is gone and we know the cavs are going back to repeat.
@@DevonYurBoyCook if kyrie and kevin love dont go down after games 1 and 2 in the 2015 finals stephen curry and the warriors dynasty probably never happens....
@@jayinthebx exactly. It wasn’t meant for bron to have those many rings
Stop it guys even if kd didn’t come they would of won championships!! People act like lebron beat the Warriors in 5 or 6.. no lebron had to go till game 7.. so that team is legit !!!
Curry is more visually impressive that Mayweather
Mayweather never lost
Vlad don't know a damn thing about sports. He need to stop talking. That shit was so damn dumb.
@@theoo149 better defense too
@@Datboyjoc easily, mayweather wouldnt let Marcus smart score lmao
@@theoo149 That’s a stupid thing to say.
He would lose if he fought 4 times a week and if championship fights were best of 7 fight series.
Love Gil and Steph is the truth, but at least Steph is a legit 6'3". That's different than that barely 6 feet, 150-165 lbs dude who was constantly going to the lane, taking contact and coming back for more pretty much his entire career and gave the league 26/night. Way different players, but the GOAT of 6'3" and under is the Answer and it's not even close.
Facts 6'3 and 5'11 is way different
@Raymond Sims correct
Iverson was also waaaaaay more athletic than Steph
@@spvzonthetrack9957
And AI got a team to the championship by himself…and he had a bunch of injuries, including a bruised tailbone.
AI is more athletic, but Steph is a multi- champ, all over shooting record books, productive on court as well.... this goes to Steph.... Isaiah Thomas over AI.... they are champions and all time greats. Levels to it
Vlad don't watch basketball. Curry is a walking highlight reel. And his three is considered the best "knockout punch" there is in basketball.
After awhile watching someone shoot 3,s over becomes boring and routine ,at a certain point you're like what else can you do..
@@katinawhitley9340 If you don't watch Curry then you would think all he does is shoot threes. I feel the same way though. If you're shooting too many 3s or just dunking constantly it loses shock value. Mixing it up is the most entertaining.
people don't understand how it kills the opponent teams mind its like a putting a nail in their head and making them think they're going to loose the long shots he hit goes hard asf
@@katinawhitley9340 you definitely don't watch curry cuz he's one of the best at finishing at the rim
The disrespect Curry keep getting is crazy.💯🤔
Steph is the Shaq of the perimeter just an unstoppable force from there
I don't think his height matters. If he finishes his career with two more rings and two more finals MVP he's in the GOAT conversation.
Na he already in the GOAT convo as is. Mind you he was robbed of Atleast 2 finals mvps so he should have Atleast 3 right now. Especially the 2015 one
nah. when you are a liability on defense you aren’t goin to be goated
@@yaqqmanQ he not did you not watch the finals?
@@yaqqmanQ that's what I'm saying. All those other guys played on both sides of the court, but I wouldn't expect vlad to know that
@@tpose5three so you didn't watch the finals
3's are the in thing and Steph is the king of those. Kids DEFINITELY wanna see Steph highlights!
Curry is not 6'2. He may be pushing 6'4. See him in person. He is not short by any definition
mfs be blowing me with shit
He’s 6’2 barefoot
Tyson fought 58 fights , the great ones don’t fight a lot . They get paid a good amount so there’s no need for them to have a 100 fights as the people who don’t get the bag.
tyson went to jail and had an addiction after his mentor died or else he wouldve fought more, and also if you actually knew mikes history you would know in the 1st 2 years of his career he fought every month and sometimes twice in a month until he became champion which is crazy when you think about it
Curry imo after this year is at least top 12 or even top 10.
Yeah he must've forgot last year dunk contest was definitely last in our minds compared to the Three point contest! 😆
People forget how well Tyson respect every fighter even when he KO u in 30 seconds he always show respect even guys who Tyson know was trash he called them a good fighter
Steph impacted the game forever he’s the biggest reason everybody is chucking 3s instead of going to the hole now.
I think steph changed the perspective for young kids because they all wanna shoot 3s now..he changed the game however i do believe he need just a smidget more to his resume to be considered the goat..but the public wont allow anyone to be the goat over jordan😂😂
The public will allow it when it's deserved. Jordan has 5mvps, when he should've won at least 8 & has 6 chips. He was the best defender & best scorer of his Era. The truth is the truth. You didn't watch Mj, just say that next time.
@@369pendulum Lebrun has 4 MVPs he should’ve won atleast 10 and has 4 rings and was the best overall player that’s defending scoring and rebounding of his era the thing is ppl have their own picks and according to ppl like yu Your go to against lbj is 4-6 just an assumption idk yu obviously
@@richardmatthews2807 no bron left to much room for speculation his numbers are unmatched but it's still debatable him or KD him or kobe guys he matched up against MJ left no room for that.
@@74martymcfly naw Hakeem gotta be the best defender of that era
@@74martymcfly Bron should've won 10. What NBA you've been watching? Or you just don't know what to look for when you watching? The most valuable player on a team is what LeBron was more than 10 times. Stats can only make a casual feel like he know basketball. Kobe era was the one that was unclear which is why he only won one. He wasn't that much better or better than t Mac, Carter, ai. Shaq, ray Allen, Davis etc.bron however made it clear to everybody who's willing to except the truth that he was indeed the most valuable player for years. Denying that fact is a sign of hate and denial. It really is because I dgaf about LeBron. With my eyes with no paper showing me how many points were scored or whatever, I can see he was the most valuable player. Fox news or espn didn't have to tell me that. Wade was my favorite player.
"You gotta remember" needs to be a shirt plz G.A🙏🏽💰
Steph highlights are visually crazy thou!! The ball handling, the step backs, the finishing at the rack, the shooting off the dribble and catch!! Its no highlights that i see that is better!!
We are not going GOAT by height, no. Curry is a GOAT
GOAT is not plural sir
Hell no
Valid point 😂😂 even thou he changed the game wit the 3s dunking it still more exciting to the eye
He one of the best period all heights
It’s funny… the average height of a guy is 5’6 yet they’re saying like 6’3 is just regular
Only 14% of men are above 6” in the US.
Let’s that sink in
Naa it’s 5’9 in the US…. World wide it’s 5’6
In Basketball, the topic at hand.. 6'3 is regular
@@therealmccoy1986 correct but that’s still not short in comparison to my statement
@@creoletatted8790 as of how recent was that study conducted?
@@creoletatted8790 world wide is 5'6 dammnnnnnnnn
When’s the last time Gil been to a camp.? Last I heard, from Matt Barnes, every kid possible, even his own kids, r pulling from the logo, like they have the limitless range badge. 😂 If u go look at a Curry’s highlight reel, it will consist of insane 3’s of course, ankle breakers, n his finishes at the rim. Even though he’s the greatest shooter of all time, he’s also one of the best at finishing at the rim, w/ contact. A lot of ppl forget to mention that. Can he dunk, of course he can. He doesn’t get paid to dunk though. That’s y he’s going to have longevity, over these other athletic guards. That’s y I’m hoping Ja can develop a legit jump shot, so he can avoid any future leg injuries. It’ll b D-Rose all over again if he doesn’t. 💯
Yes as far as accomplishment, but I think that Zeke and AI are better
Gotta agree, the top tier is Steph, Wade, and Thomas.
I still have allen iverson the gost of 6'3 and under . Curry been fortunate to be gifted the players hes had . Allen iverson wasnt to be fucked with . At all
Facts
Nah I'd still take Allen Iverson or Isaiah Thomas over Curry anyday
Why ?
@@brem3985 Bcuz they were mentally and physically tougher than Curry and they were in the NBA in a different era where it wasn't a bunch of crybabies like it is now.Iverson had no one and took that wack Sixers team to the Finals in 2001 against my Lakers and actually stole a game.Isaiah was the second best PG in the league behind Magic Johnson and would destroy teams he had the killer instinct as a point guard.The only thing Curry has over them is his 3 point shot and yeah I know it's a constant debate about players can't help when they were born but if Curry played back in the 80's or 90's there's no way he would have that many 3's.They would D him up good or put him on his ass
Vlads laugh is classic I almost hear 👂 it coming lmao specially when G.A makes him laugh it’s classic
Yooooo Curry on fire is the most exciting thing in NBA history.
Lebron,Mj,shaq,Kobe,Curry
Facts, air Jordan, human highlight reel, vinsanity, the rain man
The word they were lookin for is PERCEPTION. With that being said the caption should be changed to 6’5. I don’t kno any player under 6’6 than can be considered greater than Steph.
Side note: Steph and Mayweather performances are FAR from boring
Great intellect from Hibachi
Gilbert just makes stuff up.
he really lame af lol
He doesn't need to be in the G.O.A.T. conversation but he definitely deserves to be in the all time top 10 conversation
He definitely ready for it niggas just never gone admit it and ion even like curry but if niggas like magic up there just off "what if" then steph gotta be up there
For sure. I think he's even top 5 tbh
@@pootieofficalmusic no one is talking about what ifs, the goat convo is mj LeBron and Kareem, some put Kobe in there it’s not a knock on curry to not be put in to GOAT convo, what’s wrong with(for now) being somewhere between 5-10
Top 12
Curry top 5 all time for me idgaf what anyone say and yes he's better than magic
Scoring is Scoring!
I can't see curry doing this in the hand check era ...
When did Gil suddenly get so out of touch? Kids LOVE Curry
"He's only 6'2". He's my height." - Vlad
Early flord was a demon with mitts. His tactical game exceled after fuccin up his wrists in fights, IUm not the biggest fann, but Pretty Boy Floyd was a walking highlight reel
We need a Roy Jones Jr interview
A better comparison for a non-visual Goat would be Tim Duncan. I don’t see how someone can say Steph Curry’s style of play isn’t visually appealing when he’s literally making 3s from the logo on a consistent basis.
Vlad talking to an NBA player like he’s a peer to them or like hes on the same level of basketball knowledge. Vlad making me cringe in this one. Mayweather is the steph curry of boxing because he isn’t amazing to watch? Are you on crack?
Lmao real talk
gilbert arenas shirt fits his character
Vlad need 2 interview Chamillionaire
He's right
He’s right if the kids don’t no anything else about who they’re watching, very young fans don’t have older bias
5 to 10 years ago kids was asking can you dunk. Steph Curry changed that. now it's how far can you shoot the ball. Steph definitely got highlights his crazy deep 3 pointers.
Exactly
Vlad tripping nobody can score like curry has one of the most crazy highlights ever.
Curry changed the game and little kids are the ones he changed it for, there are more short kids under 6'3 than tall kids and he shows that anybody with hard work can make it! I strongly disagree with Gilbert but I do agree that Curry is not the goat yet, there's more work to do and more championships to win but he's in the top ten, he's maybe number 10 bit he's in there!
More than half of Mayweather's fights ended in knock outs. He use to literally punish his competition before he broke his hands haha Vlad doesn't follow sports at all. And when he started talking about Jordan, i was like he knows nothing about basketball. Jordan - fade away, defense, pure j, last second shots made by jump shots, smallest player in the top 5 of all time... This stuff is getting out of hand. lol
Respectfully disagreeing with Gilbert again. So many vids at basketball camps kids pulling up from half court 3/4 court. you can’t say he shouldn’t be considered bc his height. Jordan/bron etc can’t shoot like him like he can’t dunk like them
@Raymond Sims he is top 10 player of all time..we don't need him to be the top goat
Glad was talking about Band camp 😂 😂
Lol
Yooo he gotta get other people to do sports interviews 😩
The whole thing with Floyd not being the greatest cause he ain’t fight a hundred fights is bogus cause we shouldn’t look the quantity of fighters a boxer fights cause a lot of opponents you face could be scrubs… we should loook at the quality of an opponent a boxer faces, and floyd was facing world champions all the time 🤷🏽♂️ more than anyone like canelo or julio Caesar Chavez
Yup
Fighting like a chicken
That's true I used to ask can u dunk to high schoolers at camp while I was young then I got to be that senior who coached camps and I had to dunk to make it fun for these kids at camp even though I wasn't the most skilled I was the most athletic so kids wanted to be in my team
True Story💯
Gilbert strikes again.
A.I. and it's not close.
Anybody that watches basketball knows Curry is better. This isn't even an argument.
Floyd never lost a fight because he handpicked opponents that he knew couldn't beat him. That's why he stalled the Paquiao fight. Not to mention all the last minute testing he wanted his opponents to go thru right before the fights
Height doesn’t matter with the goat convo impact, ability, & championships matter. Who cares about dunks if he is the shooter that changed the NBA. It’s not fair to say he’s not or less than bc of these reasons. Just a biased take.
This generation much more in awe of 3 point shot than the dunk … the dagger 3 has been popularised through stephs impact .. very unlikely to see a game winning shot to be a dunk 😂
I'm a steph curry fan. He's the best pure shooter the game has ever seen. The reason I can't put him in the goat conversation is because he's not a great defensive player. In my opinion you have to do it at both ends of the floor to be in that conversation
Or because he's not that good to be in it
There's a couple of guys in the top 10 who weren't that good defensively but seriously stephs a good team defender and he plays passing lanes with the best of them he's not a good on ball defender which most of today's superstar players aren't
Take magic and bird off y'all list then cuz neither was good on defense at all yet they bigger than curry
@@SosukeTYBW 💯🤣
@@SosukeTYBW *cause* he's not better than them overall
It's all what you value and what you like in a player and what's your criteria for a goat
mayweather fought like 17 times in one year early on thats how he got his first belt, the people that fought 100's of fights were old school cats who worked 9 to 5's smoked cigarettes and fought in back alleys for 70 rounds until somebody dropped dead
Lol
Gilbert “you gotta remember” Arenas
The young kids thinking about shooting from the logo have u watched basketball the last 5. Yrs
Curry is the best shooter and that’s it.. no comparison
Nobody said he needs to be the goat..but he definitely deserve to be top 10 player of all time.
@@terrenceburnette187 top 10 fa sho but definitely no where in the GOAT talk
Funny how he’s 6’4 saying this. This is why I can’t take his opinions serious. It always seems like he’s always slick downplaying someone. He will have a point with certain things but most of the stuff sounds personal since it’s all competitive.
Honestly if curry wins 2 more chips and 2 more finals mvp.. he should be in GOAT conversation with LeBron and MJ period. People can argue Kareem but he won 4/5 chips with magic (top 5 player).
That'll make it 6 rings and 3 fmvps he better be up there and I'd like to see Bron fans try to argue why Steph wouldn't be greater when he'd end up with more rings than bron in the same era
Lebron ain’t even in the Goat convo vs MJ. That’s a big lie that was pushed by espn. Curry has losses in his Finals record and damn sure wasn’t Finals MVP multiple times.
Best point guard of all time. Changed the game like no one before. What else can they say now?
Like no one before? iverson changed the game like no one before.
@@goudagrishhdoe8925 ai had a big impact on the game fasho but nowhere near what curry has done .
Nah Magic is the best pg of all time
@@kapengbarako4523 magic stats meh.. highlight passes, but he had a STACKED AF team all his career
@@OGGOAT23 faxs like people don’t understand curry is top 5 for me magic and Kareem kobe and Shaq all take a hit because they played with each other
Gilbert seems knowledgeable about sports but when u say things like Giannis doesn't know basketball I second guess your basketball critique 🤔
That’s only because you don’t know basketball
Not in a disrespectful way just knowledge of the game
Tim Duncan IQ
CHRIS PAUL IQ
LEBRON IQ
STEVE NASH IQ
JASON KIDD IQ
MAGIC JOHNSON IQ
DRAYMOND GREEN IQ
OUTSIDE OF LEBRON none of these people where the most gifted physically. They just understood the game on a different level.
Giannis is a physical monster and dominates the league already. Right now. Mvp now, DPOY NOW, finals mvp now…… imagine if you take that dominance and add their knowledge of the game to go with his physical gifts…… TO AN ALREADY MVP….. scary
He was correct up until he said how kids view steph. These kids ain pulling from deep on fastbreaks for no reason
It's has nothing to do with being little. It has to do with accomplishments lol
Vlad keeps tryna include Curry in the GOAT convo but it’s not even up for debate lol. Only legitimate debate is if he top 10 all time
He is easily and undeniable top 10
Isiah Thomas is the GOAT 6'3" and under for me. Steph right there too but what Isiah did at 6'0" 175lbs in the Magic, Bird and Micheal Jordan era... I'd say Isiah pound for pound greatest player ever.
Thanks he is very underrated
Plus isiah played defense, i watched steph let ja morant keep them out the playoffs helplessly , he iso'd two plays straight after that i couldnt call him the best PG, hes never won a head to head against any pg he just comes off screens and its the greatest shooter but i believe in another system that hasnt been built around him , he would crumble like westbrook nd most players
I get it. But Steph Curry won 3 chips in Lebrons prime. Isaiah won 2 chips when Jordan was rising and Bird and Magic at the end of their careers.
@@theoo149 agree. Isiah played defense, could score and he made players around him better. Those Bad Boys Pistons teams were really good but nowhere near as talented as Lakers, Celtics, Bulls and to be honest probably not the Blazers or Cavs of the late 80's early 90's. Isiah was the one superstar on those Bad Boys teams and led them to 2 championships.
@@MrHarry-hx4bo stephs team won 3 chips why yall always give steph credit for that, Klay plays a bigger role in those championship rings than steph does, and KD saved his legacy, he lost to kawhi leonard and a mediocre raptors team why yall never talk about kawhi
No one cares about dunking no more lol the question now is can you make a three can you shoot from logo/ half court
BANG!
The answer
But most kids want to shoot three pointers so times has changed curry is definitely without a doubt belong in the goat conversation
Curry is spectacular and exciting when watching so u make no sense vlad
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Gilbert is Ancient and insane!
Steph may go down as the most dominant player of all time
That title goes to shaq or wilt
Saying Floyd Mayweather ain't top 5 is crazy, to that boxer that has 75 - 100 fights "it ain't about how many fights you had but who you fought." Mayweather has been in 30+ championship fights. That's insane.
Gilbert is wrong here. Steph changed the game. He got everybody shooting deep 3’s
The NBA is a lot different
Curry hasn’t carried this league enough he’s the best shooter bot the best player. It’s a huge difference
What league have you been watching....
In the last 7yrs. Curry has been the top draw for the nba. Nike just has yall brainwashed to think lebron is some imaginary face. When curry was injured, nba viewership declined. More People watched warriors vs lakers play in game than the nba finals in 2021. Tell me why that happened. 2022 warriors went to the finals again and the viewership was the highest since 2019.. adam silver knows who carries the league.
@@slimshiii4973 curry literally the face of the league rn and rightfully so
4 rings in 7 years and 6 finals appearances..yea, he's definitely carrying the league on his back
@@SosukeTYBW nope giannis is.
A non 2 way player could never be Goat and for all Currys scoring he's not the best scorer ever in his own era!
Yeah I’ll admit he the goat of the little men of the NBA he can’t match the aspects of the big man’s game it’s more difficult
Don’t disrespect A.I like that.
He right, not even camp, i be in the elevator & people ask if i can dunk😂 be at random places & people ask because of my hight lol
Yah man they use to fight 3-4-5 times a year 15 rounds a fight lol