So You Want To Get A FFL...
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Just a quick video giving an overview of the steps necessary to procure an 01 or 02 FFL.
Here's the detailed info I promised.
All this information can be found, FOR FREE, by going to www.atf.gov/fir...
How to get your FFL:
Call the Distribution Center at (202) 648-6420.
Tell them you need the following forms:
ATF F 5310.12 (Form 7)
ATF F 5330.20 - Certification of Compliance
Two FD--258 (Fingerprint Identification Card) for each person to be listed as a Responsible Person on the FFL.
Fill out the forms correctly.
Get your fingerprints taken (INK ONLY, NO ELECTRONIC).
Send forms, two passport photos, and $200.00 to the ATF.
Wait.
Questions
If you have any questions relating to the application, please contact the ATF Federal Firearms Licensing Center.
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Federal Firearms Licensing Center
244 Needy Road
Martinsburg, West Virginia 25405 USA
Voice (866) 662-2750 (Toll Free)
Fax (866) 257-2749 (Toll Free)
NLC@atf.gov
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TH-cam life: I logged on to get advice on back pain relief and now I'm applying for an FFL.
Robbie V lmfao
that my type of person
I ended up here after watching 2hrs of bigfoot footage, I only came orginally to watch the Mr.Baby Peanut commercial, I'm not sure I can leave youtube now.
I was wondering how to build a lower ..now wanna get a license to build full auto..lol
I am from Egypt and do not know how to buy a weapon, please help
I just saw that this man passed. Seemed like a great guy. Rest in peace, catch you on the other side brother.
What happened?
@@hellothere7345 he unfortunately took his own life
@@jasonjanoyblahaloverboy3005 where did you find out?
@@lndspk3316 recent videos that have comments from his ex wife
the government killed him
My sugestion if you do run your FFL from your home or garage, make it a DETACHED GARAGE with its own address. For example: if your address is 123 someplace ave, then your garage should be 123.5 someplace ave.
The reason for that is ATF has the ability to come and audit your FFL business when they want. They may never, but they can. If your FFL is attached to your home address, attached garage or in your home itself, they can look over your entire home. If you don't mind that OK, but I simply don't like them going through my house when it is completely unnecessary
Rich, just wanted to tell you I watched this about 14 months ago. You got my pumped up to do something I always wanted to do. Well this April it will be one year as a home based FFL. All by myself, not hard at all. Fed part was easy, state and local part a little more work but no show stoppers. Doing OK, many transfers, some sales. People are asking me to go class III so I will in July. Thanks for talking me into doing this (still weird to have guns delivered to you front door).
Mark
Looking back was it worth it? Is there a lot of bookkeeping?
I'm sorry to see the comments about this man's suicide. I stumbled across this video today, and came into the comments to say thank you for how he treated warning people they might be working with special needs individuals. I've lived and worked with special needs people my whole life and what he did is exactly how you should treat both working with those people and telling others they might be doing the same.
i have my ffl and i finally got the phased plasma rifle in 40 watt range in today. it was backordered for 30 years but its now in stock
Do you accept on line orders with credit card. Put me on the waiting list if you sell out before you received my order,
Have care when operation is near mirrors don't send a burst down range if you don't mean to!!!! Work and play safe. Don't buy cheep eye protection...
HMU on ig Jonnyfyb
John Conner, is that you?
Mark Monaco yes
Underrated comment
While researching whether I should apply for an FFL I saw your video - late June. Within 35 Days I was holding my FFL in my hand. Your video was very insightful and true to the experiences one would encounter during the application process. Thank You Sir!!
"When you call the ATF be prepared to deal with someone who may be mentally handicapped' RICH LMAO!!!
thanks for the vid, i was looking at getting an FFL to send and receive guns and make my collection bigger without bothering to go to a store, but like you said this is for a business so no point for me getting one. Thanks for the vid and honesty
Really, commited suicide ? why, life is so cruel ? He looks pretty jolly here ! I had all the licenses, FFL, Black Powder Storage Permit, etc... When Mr. & Mrs.. Climpton got in the ATF took away my license. The excuse was I did not have a Mall storefront Business. What a crock. They took many licenses & permits away from law abiding dealerships ! I tried to fight them . Even contacted the "Great" NRA. They stonewalled me and eventually did nothing ! That is why I quit the NRA. They are a front and full of BS. All they want is your membership fe every year. After that you are nothing to them.
Rip
They “suicided” him
He went into debt to start an ammo company and didn't receive enough orders to make up the difference. He could have filled bankruptcy but decided to eat a bullet.
NRA is trash
Your a straight shooter, and you tell it like it is, enjoyed your video, and there should not be any questioned because like you said call the FFL phone number they have all the
answers.Thanks for the heads up, USMC Viet nam 1967-69, and retired.
What about becoming an SOT so you can purchase full auto weapons
Waiting
its an experience i hear, and a long process, just know this, if you have full autos and your ffl runs out, you must either destroy the receivers or sell them ASAP before expiration or else atf will probably say hello to you
mastersergant128 You can likely make arrangements for it to be transferred to an SOT-3 and then sold back to you for $0.01 (not including stamp) after filing an ATF Form 4.
Dr. Z do u have to get a ffl to get a sot and which sot do I need just to personally own a automatic not trying to sell them
Dr. Z how are they going to sell it back to you for a penny if it's not a transferable MG? They can't. If it is a transferable MG then you wouldn't need the license to buy it in the first place... just a shit load of $.
Very helpful. Thanks. I got an FFL years ago when I was very young. I had no money and the people I knew had no money, so I never sold or bought even one gun. One thing I remember was that the process was surprisingly easy! I found the websites described above before I found this video and I immediately knew something was up. Thanks again for the FREE help.
Thanks a ton dude, I've been trying to convince my dad to get an FFL for a while now considering that I can't get one because I'm 14...Anyways he always complained about it being so complicated and him not having the time despite him already being retired for about 7 years now.
I want to thank you for making this video instead of playing Battlefield on release day, that was a fantastic presentation of the steps needed to obtain an FFL. Very straight forward crossing the t's and dotting the I's.
that is one of the best videos i have ever watched! informative but to the point. i have wanted to try and get my ffl for a long time but never applied because i was always told it would be to much money. i litteraly just ordered all the forms on line two minutes ago.
cant wait to see them in my mail box. keep up the great vids!!!!
dude i really like how level headed you are. yet i can see how you would be hilarious off camera. one of the best channels on the tube. thanks
You can get a FFL03 aka Curios and Relics license that will allow you to direct purchase C&R eligible weapons (Makarovs, Tokarevs, SKSs, Mosins etc). This license is designed for enhancing your own collection; doesn't include most new firearms but worth having.
Brother all I can say is thank you. You have saved me a ton of work and kept me from wasting money. Thanks again!!
I am an ex firearms dealer. I knew this guy knew what he was talking about just by him saying FFL. I loved it when other dealers would tell me they were sending me their FFL license. I would then reply, so you are sending me your federal firearms license, license ? I would then direct them to go to their nearest ATM machine, you know, the automatic teller machine, machine. Most of them "got" it, and for some reason, never said it again.
Don't forget the hot water heater.
I’m not from this part of the world, someone explain this to me lol
Dude I have mad respect for you skipping BF3, BF3 was one of my favorite games in history I appreciate the sacrifice brother.
Cheers
Can't wait for 2042
@@bobtehdinosaur rip
Thanks for your dedication at getting out this info sir, the control you demonstrated making this video as opposed to indulging your need for annihilating pixelated images shows true altruistic intent to the needs of others.
Very informative. It is amazing how many gun store owners don't know this information. Maybe because the four that are in my town have been around since JFK was in office or they didn't want to make it easier for more competition in the same town. But I was just looking for broad based answers to how difficult it is to get my FFL. I am not going to be a "gun dealer". I am studying to become a gun engraver. So most of my business will be simply working on other folks guns. But I'm sure that I'll also be buying some guns and engraving them and selling them.
All I did was to call the ATF and they were extremely helpful (I must have gotten lucky in who answered the call). They gave me step by step instructions and all the forms that I needed. They even went over the "interview" process with me. But I digress.
Thank you for posting this video and taking the time away from your business (and game play😉) to make and post this info. Bravo, Sir.
Yes, you can sell online. There is many gun auction sites in the states... many FFL sellers on there, also non FFL
I had my FFL in the late 90's and I am going to apply for it again, anyone should realize that anything from the Gov. is available for free information that is.
FFL number 3 is the same application as FFL 1 and 2. The only difference is you don't have to send in a photograph of yourself and you don't have to send in the fingerprint card. But it is the same initial form. Currently as of December 2021 the application for the FFL3 is $30 FFL1 and 2 are $200 each. I know this because I'm literally sitting here filling out the forms as I watch this video.
man am I glad I watched this vid, definately no going to spend the extra money on a certain service! I'm in massachusetts and just wanted to thank you for your time.......now to apply!!
This really helped me. I have been considering getting my FFL. I had no idea what to do or where to start. I was just going to ask the cops about it. Thanks for the great content
Well I’d say the %10 profit margin has changed significantly in recent times, especially on ammo. Of course higher margins doesn’t help when theirs a shortage of all these things right now. I enjoyed the video very much and I love Tulsa! Thank you
The "compliance form" is the catch here. In NJ getting in "compliance" is a real pain in the ass because the State does not want you to get an FFL, so they make it extremely difficult if not impossible to achieve.
difference. Now if I'm ordering it for myself as an FFL even if the mark up is only 5% that puts me at 27% saved by being an FFL and ordering the firearm direct to myself. (roughly speaking). Having an FFL will save you about 10% when ordering from someone selling out of their home using their FFL. But if you look at what you could get for yourself with an FFL vs what you'd pay by walking into a store the savings do start to approach 30%, maybe higher, depending on the store/weapon.
@rinko48 I had to re-watch the video to see what you were talking about. I don't think I said anything offensive or denigrating towards people with developmental disabilities, but I apologize if I offended you.
Government jobs will hire those who others will not...they fill many low level positions. They do what they can and they then have jobs.
I know this is an older video, but thank you for the information. I have worked at a local gun store for the last few years and I am now thinking about branching out on my own as apart time hopefully one day full time firearm seller and gunsmith. All the best to you and any future information would be greatly welcomed. Hancock Brewer
Great informative video. This cleared A LOT of things up for me. I also agree that someone should not get into the gun business unless they love firearms. Keep the great vids coming.
Thank you very much for your informative post. It is very helpful since I am planning to apply for my FFL. You kept it short and simple and not long winded. I look forward to view more of you post. Again Thanks.
Be 100% sure that your locale does not have any zoning regulations that would preclude you operating your FFL from your home. In my city, I cannot have more than one other employee, no posted signage, no posted hours outside my house and no foot traffic. "By appointment only" is a valid set of hours to put on the Form 7.
excellent video my friend. you just summed it all up in just a matter of a few minutes of my time. I really appreciate the knowledge and information. I just subscribed.
Technically a person could be saving as much as 25%, if the profit margin is 10% and they live in California where state sales tax is about 10% and they are in a big city that adds another 5% onto the sales tax like San Francisco, but that is an extreme example. I'm primarily wanting to get my FFL because I do have a lot of coworkers coming up to me for advice on guns, where to buy guns, what gun they should get, and I have some coworkers with guns, and I would like to offer them a service. Also I have built a few of my own AR15s, I'm venturing further into gunsmithing by taking some classes and I'm looking to start my own hobby business. A small discount on firearms is just a small perc.
Thank you for posting. Much needed info in terms we can all understand.
Thanks, I know your vid is 3 years old (2014 now) but still has a lot of good info.
When you jokingly made the punch them in the face comment, I liked and subscribed to you videos. SERIOUSLY.....GOOD INFORMATIVE VIDEO!
It's now 2014 a little over 3 years since your original video posted; do you know if there has been any changes to the process, cost or forms needed since the original video posted? If so What? If there has been changes, will you or have you made an update video? Thanks in advance
Thanks for making this video. I'm looking into getting an FFL and this video helps so much. I wish someone made a video about the process in NJ since we have to go through an extra step before we can apply for an FFL. We have to go through the State Police and send in $50 to them.
Thank You!!! This is a very informative video. You covered all of the bases and gave super info on what to expect. Great Job!!!
iv had mine in knoxville tn for 5 years now and i save about 30 percent on every perchase of 50 peaces or moore so yes you can save big money your state just wont let you.a 500 gun in our store we payabout 400
you can buy at Bud's gun shop on line way cheaper than the wholesale market. the only think the ffl does for you is if you live in a state like Connecticut you can purchase items that most people in the state cannot. if you live in a gun friendly state do not bother.
go to the the Brady site if if you live in the 'F rated D rated or C rated states get your FFL
Great advice, I would add be sure to TRIPLE CHECK your zoning rules and comply. Check with the zoning commission or whoever has the last word on that one.
I want to personally thank you keeping it REAL on the discounts or wholesale pricing.
That would be a whole other video at the least.
Great videos, thanks
What a shame he is gone......God always takes the best ones back !!
Matt Miller He died?
He’s dead
im glad there are people like you in the usa. straight forward no bs. thanks alot
This is the new atf number to get your packet you no longer have to get individual forms they send you a packet with all those forms included with a form that you can check off which licenses your intrested and send off their money
Good info, greatly appreciated. However I would like to point out that people claiming you can save 30% are not actually all that far off. For example there's at least a couple of websites where you can get an SA XDM 9mm for 700 bucks, that's shipping and a 40 FFL fee. Or you could go to the local firearm store and pay 840 for it. That right there is a 17-18% difference in itself. Now if I didn't have to pay the FFL fee on that 700 bucks that brings my price down to around 660, or a 22%
Thank You brother for being honest and helping your fellow man!!! I agree everyone is trying to get people's money for nothing!!
I have been looking into getting an FFL and starting a gunsmith shop in southern Oklahoma. I found this vid. very helpful. Thanks for helping out
Thank you very much I got mine a year ago your video was my guide to got it I appreciate your time.
Btw-- in Florida you must have an occupational license and be licensed
to do retail sales (including proper zoning) at the address you state on your
ATF application, which is highly unlikely to be legal in most FL counties.
If I am wrong, please be so kind to indicate the reference material that
shows or documents that I am not correct regarding this issue. Thank you.
Hi, and thank you. Your info is still relevant today, you helped me to get my FFL. Thanks
Donald Westhoff did you have to have a business license?
Rich, I just stumbled into you watching your video on getting an FFL (basically I was googling "what is an FFL").
Your video was very enlightening and helpful - I think I'm going ahead and applying for an FFL just from watching and my love for firearms.
BTW - regarding your personality, beard and humor - you're awesome! I'd love to meet you one of these days and buy you a beer.
Yeah, I almost always have a dip in. Bad habit, I know.
I'm thinking about building AR's from 80% lowers for a fee, that led me to this video, nicely done.
Man you gave me alot of information about how to get my ffl I'm glad your in tulsa I'm out west of ya and really looking into getting my homebase ffl until I have funding to open a shop/store front
This was the clearest video I've seen on the subject. Awesome.
Great info man! I was wondering if I would be able to get an FFL just to do firearm transfers out of my Apt.. Like you said, getting the FFL will not make me rich but I figure it would be some easy money on the side just doing the transfers for people who order guns online. What do ya think? Thanks again for all the info in the video so far.
people like you are what make this country a wonderful place to live. Down home grizzly bear Americans!!! Thanks for the info! Loved the video.
great video! ive been thinking of getting mine video has great info , i to have seen those websites when i searched how to get one, thought they were a bit sketchy, definatley gave me food for thought
Really appreciate your info and your 15 min presentation was well worth your time!
Damn. I lived in Ponca City. Now I am in NV. I didn't know I lived so close to an awesome TH-camr.
However ordering from someone who sells out of their home you probably won't get robbed like you do at a pawn/sports shop and I think that's probably where the 30% figure comes into play. It's probably a "being your own store" versus buying retail comparison. I was shocked when I went searching locally for prices on that SA 9 after having browsed the internet first.
Very informative. Thank you for taking the time to make the video. I am thinking of getting a cnc set up and manufacturing firearms. The only reason I have not is that the economy is making me nervous. I don't think that it is a good time to prototype and try to market a new firearm, but I love shooting and I think I can improve on current firearms technology.
Thanks bro. Your doing a good service for the new guy, like me.
I'm not disagreeing with your statement in the video about an only 10% markup between wholesale and retail. Maybe thats true for YOU.
All I know is that I've bought a whole lot of brand new firearms for 40-50% less than what other stores were selling them at. And I was paying a gun store (an FFL). So they were making money too. For example, A Springfield XD for $350. (with all accessories) Most stores charge $450 -550. It was new, sealed and wasn't stripped down. Another example was $200 and selling for $325 in all other stores. Maybe these were "special buys" but you can get them all day long too. WITHOUT even having an FFL.
Not a dick. Very useful information I'm looking into getting my license and I'm doing my homework/ research for it and I'm going to look at as many things as I can to get as much information as possible on the subject and looking forward to getting to work on firearms in the future because I'm a gun lover as well I would love to give you compitition in the field of firearms dealership and repairs and modifications to s types of firearms. Want to pass the knowledge on to my son one day years from now and hopefully he carries on the business and loves it as much as I do. thank you for the video and keep up the good work buddy. Rock on.
Thank you for taking time to share this information.
Hey thanks for taken the time to give us all abit of FFL info there. Even though I'll probably never go through hoops of getting one I still like to hear whats all involved :)
"Equal Opportunity Employers" there a little bit slow. You got me cracking up. lol
Thank you GTT very much for the info. I am applying tomorrow and was thinking about using the people that Google provided upon search. Anyway with your video and info, I am set and very glad I found your info,thank you again bud, GM
I appreciate your sacrifice... I mean not just every one would miss the release of a new video game just to do a video!!! What was the name of that game again?
Dude, one of the coolest guys on youtube.
this man is doing this and not playing bf3 on release...may the gods PRAISE HIM for his courage and his great sacrifice for his country haha seriously though I'm looking with my dad to get one and this helps a ton
Amazing video. It helped me realize all the steps of the process, but it also helped me realize that I love guns enough to want to get my FFL to enhance my future business. AND YOU PLAY FPS's ON PC TO!!!
So I don't need a LLC or business to get approved for FFL?
I'm asking because the process to get a LLC seems a lot more complicated than the FFL.
Good video, taking the plunge. I have to deal with HOA but that's done and now a zoning appeal. That's in progress.
Yo man. This just popped up in the sidebar. I miss you and rest easy. -HCE
Excellent video! I had no idea how to go about it, but I was able to download all the forms while watching the video. Kingfisher county jail still uses ink to fingerprint with. I found that out first hand, or both hands actually. Throw up a partition in the garage, send off the forms and wait. I'll be a gun dealer in a couple of months. Fantastic!
Hey man, thank you for the info. You kept it simple and clear. I always thought it would be a nightmare to do, but you made seem possible, even for a paperwork hating knucklehead like myself. Thanks for your time and help brother.
Gunbroker has a lot of good information on their site to walk you through your first time.
Thanks for the info. Real down to earth style and well done.
What about the part of the interview where they ask about who you talked to at the city ? Who did you check with in Tulsa to get an ok for your business operating at your location?
Haha great video dude and I am Tulsa too looking to get my FFl just to deal out of my home as a part time thing.
Thanx ! I'm a concealed handgun instructor and have seriously considered an FFL for the sole reason of many of my students requesting certain firearms. My paperwork is almost completed, fees are ready,...just worried because I've heard of locale problems. I live a block over from an elementary school and have no "brick and mortar" storefront just yet..
My friend had a friend that has a ffl license and kept his guns in his attic under lock and key to get into his attic, guess what the thieves used a saw and went through his roof and stole them that way. Maybe make a basement vault or very good above standard vault that cannot be opened with a sledge and a punch pin..
Thanks for the video! Great, simple, to the point, and informative video! I just mailed my packet this week to the ATF...let's see what happens!
I would think the fingerprint situation has improved by now since silencer shops are popping up with FBI approved fingerprint kiosks. ATF is obviously accepting those. I would also add that it's too bad they don't offer some sort of license for those of us that do buy frequently. The constant 4473's and NICS checks are annoying. Considering the ATF gives you 3 years of FFL authority with no checks on your purchases or transfers, why not some kind of federal license for frequent buyers?
Great video with usable info. thank you.
Haha man you sound like an awesome dude. The BF3 talk at the end was great. Good video and thanks for explaining how to get an FFL.
I'm in. Thank you for your layman how to. When you say send 2 passport pictures is that a front and profile?
Thank you for your honesty!!!
*laughter* Your closing of this video was GREAT! Battlefield 3; was, and still is awesome too. It's not till recently my family has actually decided to go for the guns. I was raised in the country and it basically was second nature. My wife, though her father on occasion hunted, was anti-gun. Been married now for almost 20 years, and now she decides that it would be a gun thing to have. Problem is that I recieved a felony more than 20 years ago, would this lessen the chance of her recieving FFL?
Rich I thought you where pulling my leg, about the phone call to order the forms. thanks for the info Old Man we need more videos too.
have cash and go buy one, you don't need a license to have one, and you don't have to register it in most states. if you want a class 3 (Full auto) you have to buy one that is tax stamped and go through a background check and a 200$ transfer fee.
I was the sucker that purchased from one of the sites you mentioned. Wish I saw this site before hand...this was great.
What are your margins for gun accessories? Magazines, bullets, optics etc...?
Thanks, Spike
Thanks
this video was pretty dam good i got a lot of use full info from it sadly it takes money to start a business but when i am able ill be filing for my my FFL license i love guns just dont have the budget at this time