Why is no one acknowledging that Matt Colville watches Pitch Meeting (including Revisited ones)? I mean, nothing’s wrong with that but it feels like that time I saw a comment by the TH-cam with 2 likes under some popular video.
@@DimaJeydarwell I don't know who that is, so maybe that's why? But more likely is because this video literally came out an hour ago and his fans haven't seen this yet lol maaaaaybe give it a wee bit of time for people to watch the video and read the comments.
This was the pitch meeting that introduced me to pitch meetings!! I had just seen "Cats" and I was so disoriented and felt so crazy, I had to see if folks on TH-cam felt the same way. And, lo and behold, my Pitch Meetings journey began!
I gave up on movies years ago, and just watch the Pitch Meetings, Cinema Sins and Honest Trailers. They are far more entertaining than the actual films and I waste far less time with them
@@skydonkey9515 hahaha why yes, in the middle of the film, when I started laughing uncontrollably, I think that was when the jellical hypnosis was complete
Most movies are garbage but if you ever want to watch some again the animation renaissance is going around so if you like kids movies I'd recommend Elemental, Spiderman: Across the Spiderverse, and Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. They're diamonds among dirt, I promise@@tedferkin
Theres no way the movie theater didnt have to process refunds i saw the trailer and it was nightmare fuel. If i unwittingly brought my small child into it i would pissed off
Imagine the confusion when Ryan and his wife don't ask for a refund. "It was perfect. We had a Jellicle time. Also, it'll put our future kids through college"
Have you ever been tempted to do a Pitch Meeting for some old, obscure movie that you know most of your audience has neither seen nor heard of, but was just so strange and bizarre that you wanted to comment on it?
The pitch meeting for this film is more popular than the actual film because people wanted confirmation of how awful and creepy looking it is without wasting time watching it and getting traumatised 😅
I remember the massive sensation Cats was when it was on Broadway, and a big part of it was the makeup design. I say that because I kept hearing from people how terrible the show itself actually was. So, the filmmakers, in their infinite wisdom, removed the aspect that everyone raved about and focussed on what people didn't like. I'd say that's become Hollywood's modus operandi.
There is a substantial chance that between the original and the revisit that this pitch meeting has been viewed more times than the actual Cats movie, and that gives me hope for humanity.
Hey Ryan I have a question. Are there any movie pitch meetings that after you started recording for whatever reason decided it was to never see the light of day?
Apparently "The name "Jellicle" comes from an unpublished poem by Eliot entitled "Pollicle Dogs and Jellicle Cats", where "Pollicle dogs" is a corruption of "poor little dogs" and "Jellicle cats" of "dear little cats""
So it's not a made up word, it's a word they expected all the viewers to understand for some reason. A word I've never heard before in my entire life. Edit: Nvm it's still a made up word, it's just used outside of cats one time ... and has meaning... wait aren't all words technically made up but mean something?
'Cats' was actually the first Pitch Meeting I saw! My partner at the time showed it to me because we both thought the whole trainwreck of it was hilarious, and I was instantly hooked. Because it was new to me I didn't realise "super easy, barely an inconvenience" was a running gag and it just blew me away how funny it was.
I went to cats in Bangor, Maine. It was so exciting to have a Broadway musical here. I didn't understand what was going on. This pitch presentation makes me feel so much better about my own intelligence.
The live show makes no sense at all but it’s still a lot of fun. Lloyd actually wanted it to make even less sense but Nolan and Lynn, his co directors felt that a thin thread of a story would hold it together better and so they added in that bit about redemption and such. They knew fully that the show us all about ts Elliot, cats, music and most importantly dance. Making sense isn’t part of it.
@@funkoxen it’s been made into two movies and both are awful, for different reasons. As a live show with a good professional cast it’s a lot of fun, even though it makes no sense at all. It’s more of a review than coherent story. And dance is the real star. Dance is always best seen live and cats is no different. One of the most popular numbers in the show is the railway cat. In this movie the dance is changed to a tap dance, and set on what looks like a real train track. It’s actually pretty scary and so the humor of the song and dance is lost. In the live show the cats make a locomotive out of stuff they find in the junk yard And the result is both funny and charming. This movie it’s like a drug induced fever dream . This is one reason the live show remains so popular
the original sequence is a 1920s swing number. where the cats dress up as the roaches and mice and theres literally no reason to change it. it makes so more sense that way. im starting to think the people who made this movie didnt know what they were doing.
Set and setting. They invaded your psyche by being entirely out of place. One of the most horrifying things I ever saw was in an episode of American Dad
That's one of the moments that made fans of the musical think 'Good God why did they change that.' Like every decision that was made in this movie was a bad idea. They made the song worse, the costuming worse and added the cockroach eating nightmare....but I actually fucking loved it. This was the epitome of 'so bad it's good' for me.
Fun fact: You watch these movies so that we don’t have to. That is the reason some of the most terrible movies are your most successful Pitch meetings.
True. If I'm interested in a movie, I make sure I watch it before I watch the pitch. If I have zero interest in a movie, I watch neither the movie nor the pitch. But if I'm incredibly curious about a movie that looks so incredibly bad, then I'll just watch the pitch. This was the case with Cats.
@@darrenmacqueen9884same, like the tomorrow war, the very concept of the film made no sense to me and watching the pitch meeting confirmed that while being more entertaining than if I had watched the movie 😅
Yup. Between this and Honest Trailers, I’ve saved thousands of dollars and hundreds of precious hours not going to terrible movies. Thank you for your sacrifice!
This is easily my favorite pitch meeting. I think most of us refused to ever watch it and just wanted to listen to you roast it. By the way, I love the backstory of the theaters and what it was like going to see it. I knew a lot of people walked out of that movie, but probably not for the same reasons those poor kids did.
The kids probably would have liked it. Young kids often don't mind if things don't make sense. They ask a lot of questions, but absurdity doesn't diminish their enjoyment. Everyone leaving was probably cause the parents felt uncomfortable lol
Wow I had no idea digitally removing buttholes was such a major drain on Hollywood. But I guess that's just part of the art making process. I had no idea the buttholes were so difficult to properly light! Fireflies make it look so easy! What a jellicle leason we all learned here today! ❤😂
You know when you’re watching a low budget independent film, and you know it’s bad, but you just can’t put your finger on why? It’s the butthole removal. Very subtle. Pay attention next time.
Although the etymology of the word is not given in Cats, or just about anywhere else, it comes from a poem by Eliot called “Pollicle Dogs and Jellicle Cats,” and Pollicle is a pet form of poor little, and Jellicle is a pet form of dear little.
@@fangal12 The poet T.S. Eliot wrote a bunch of poems about cats for his godchildren. Jellicle was a nonsense word he made up to tie them together. One of the reasons the original Cats musical got such attention when it premiered was that it was pretty off-brand for Eliot's usual style, and high school English students all over were like, "You mean we could have been reading this instead of grinding our way through 'The Wasteland'?" (I was one of those students. Even did my final year presentation on Eliot's poems and him 'breaking character,' so to speak.) It strikes me as kind of like Raul Julia in "Street Fighter" - someone normally really serious proving they're just regular people by doing something neat for the kids in their lives.
When I was a kid, my family went to the movies and there were two Tim Allen movies (different ones) playing at the same time. One of them was the one where he pretended to be Amish to avoid the mob or something, I forget what the other one was. We bought tickets to one of them, but when the movie started playing, it was the wrong movie. My dad went out to make sure we were in the right theater and we were. So he complained. Instead of doing anything worth while, the manager just had everyone switch theaters, 15-20 minutes into the run time. Then they switched the posters and title card outside the theaters. No one got a refund or anything.
@@heroofdermwood That's insane. I've gotten a refund for a movie because of a loud screaming kid. I walked out partway through the movie and asked for it. I'd definitely be pushing hard for a refund in your situation.
I used to work at a movie theater and I was encouraged to offer free passes for any complaint. Means you come back and maybe use money on snacks, which is the only part that the theater makes money on so win win.
@McManthony21 Damn, the comment about the snacks is a good point. By the time I asked for a refund for the screaming kid I had already bought snacks. And of course they gave me free pass to come back and see a movie at another time, not an actual refund. So I came back to see the same movie the following weekend where I ended up buying snacks again. So yeah.
There's a fantastic video called "why the music in Cats 2019 is worse than you remember" and it is a very knowledgeable rant, I assure you! He even starts off by explaining the "plot" and comparing the musical to the movie. Don't worry if you know nothing about music to start with. 😼
That actually got me hooked on "Memory". I had no Cats background other than the Pitch Meeting, but Memory really is such an amazing performance. Understandable how the franchise was successful off the one song.
"Maybe on stage it's okay that it doesn't [make sense]". It's quite breathtaking to witness the pretentiousness of so much live theatre, especially musical theatre, summed up in such a concise manner.
The ending bit DOES work better in the stage version, for a pretty simple reason: there's no fourth wall in the musical. Literally the first thing the cats do is shatter it; the entire opening number is addressed directly to the audience as well (which is why they open with a series of questions that hype up how great cats are; they are talking to humans). When it opened, the musical was in fact pretty groundbreaking; nothing had ever broken the fourth wall like that before, with the cats addressing their audience and going out into the crowd to dance. So when it closes with Old Deuteronomy directly addressing the audience and talking about what they've just witnessed, it's a bookend -- the cats opened by talking to the crowd about their ignorance regarding cats, and they close it by talking about how now they've been enlightened. The film takes out every other fourth wall break, wrapping them into the Victoria frame story, but inexplicably chooses to leave the very final one in. Which makes no goddamn sense, but then again, nothing else does either, so why should that song be any different?
Hey Ryan! I have a question for you: do you feel pressured to do Pitch Meetings for certain movies/shows? For example, would you watch a Disney+ Marvel show that you aren't interested in just because you think fans might expect a Pitch Meeting for it?
I mean, this is his job, so I don't think it is pressure, so much as demand. If there is a demand for a pitch meeting, and he can do it, then it makes sense to do it. I doubt he watches all these movies because he enjoys them. :D
That's a dumb example, and the answer is already obvious, he watched all the Twilight and Hunger Games and Divergent and Maze Runner movies for the Pitch Meetings...
This pitch meeting is legit my absolutely FAVORITE pitch meeting!! The nonsense of the movie itself is represented so well and made so funny that watching the pitch has become like throwing on a fav episode of my favorite TV shows! Thank you so much for injecting so much jellical joy into my life!!
This is possibly my favorite pitch meeting ever, every joke lands, the reactions are spot on hilarious and realistic. I've never been more confused then watching this movie to. Glad you did a revisit of it!
I never understood this movie or the stage one I saw on DVD. But once I saw your Cats Pitch Meeting, I understood the story better, so, thanks for that. This is one of my favs of yours too. I have it on my liked playlist. Also when I saw this film in theaters, I was dozing off too. And those poor kids.
I always thought this was the funniest Pitch Meeting. Like, tears flowing from my eyes because I'm laughing so hard. Now this is the funniest revisit. Like, my wife laughed so hard she nearly woke up the kids.
Nice work Ryan! I have three requests of old / retro movies for future Pitch Meetings (if you hadn’t already done them): 1. The Parent Trap (1961) 2. Way of the Dragon (English title, Return of the Dragon) (1972) - Bruce Lee’s character protects a restaurant in Rome; also features up-and-coming actor Chuck Norris 3. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938); Errol Flynn in the title role. Would be fun to see Producer Guy and Writer Guy in those eras
Reposting entire videos in a way that actually adds to it, and is still interesting and fun to watch, is super hard really an inconvenients, that’s Ryan this series is so fun
This was better than a PB & jellicle sandwich! Thank you Ryan for endless entertainment ❤ Is there a movie/tv show you would never do a pitch meeting for, because it's just perfect?
I have used your Pitch Meetings playlist as my fall asleep playlist for months now. Something about your voice is so soothing to me. What is it? What is it about your magic voice?
This Pitch Meeting had me referring to absolutely everything as “jellicle” for weeks, and people would ask “what the hell are you talking about?” and I’d say “honestly, I have no idea”
Wow this revisit was even better than the traditional pitch meeting. I love the anecdote about Cats confusion at the movies. And once again it was a horror film instead of their expected delight.
I always love observing how the pitch meetings have evolved. You can tell here, that there was a strong emphasis on getting the catchphrases out and to positively react to them. The setup for "SEBAI" was almost ham-handed in its eagerness to get to the catchphrase. These days, the setup is a lot smoother and the catchphrases (especially "X are tight!") aren't always treated positively, and I think that this growth makes today's pitch meetings that much more enjoyable.
Omg! I was at that detective Pikachu showing! I didn't know you were there. It was so funny with half of the audience laughing and the other half hiding their kids eyes! Really great moment!
The having the wrong crowd in your movie is real. I went to see Strays and the whole crowd was seniors. I thought they were confused but they laughed themselves silly. Good times.
I went to watch Cowboys and Aliens, and the very old couple in front of me asked for tickets to “Cowboys and Indians” and they just gave them the tickets, and I remember thinking they are probably in for a surprise.
This is definitely one of my favorite Pitch Meetings, and the one I usually show people first when introducing them to this series. Still haven’t seen the actual film, but kind of feel like I need to after your amazing description. I always feel like the best Pitch Meetings are the ones where the movie is either terrible (like Cats) or crazy/bizarre (like Tim Burton’s films). Sorry you’re suffering through these for our sakes, but I love what you come up with. Keep up the amazing work!
Something similar happened to me as well. I went to see Julie & Julia (that innocent movie in which Meryl Streep plays a famous TV personality from a cooking show), but instead they started with Law Abiding Citizen, a movie with an utterly gruesome opening. The theater was full of old ladies... jeez, now that I think about, maybe these guys do it on purpose because they are bored? 🤔
Hello Ryan ~ Love your content and your videos! I have a question, I was wondering if you have ever received any back lash or responses from any of your critical pitch meetings from a studio or industry etc etc
Your Pitch Meetings are wonderful. I loved this one as well. Having said that, your description at the end of the video about what happened with the mix up in the theater was funnier that the Pitch Meeting. Keep up the great.
If you like making up your own mind about what you enjoy and not what the crowd tells you is okay, you might be surprised, I certainly was. I thought I was going to see a train wreck and instead found I really enjoyed the film. Sure, the costumes and CGI are a bit weird, but looking past that were great performances by truly talented people and a story about redemption that was moving. I like musicals though and understand their shorthand storytelling. If you already despise musicals and just want to join onto the "wow, that was stupid" bandwagon, then don't bother seeing it, I think it's already been shat on enough. It's truly unfortunate that they didn't choose to use cartoon animation instead, it probably would have been a hit. The film certainly has a much better structured story than the Broadway play.
I politely disagree. This kind of comment fits movies like Morbius that just exist. But Cats, Cats is special. Not in a good way but definitely special.
A slight side track but within the realm; could you consider creating a tribute to the late and amazing Kevin Conroy? He passed away last November, and was the sole reason I got into acting. I have a voice acting background and there are some preconceived notions that it's not as demanding as regular acting; but the vocal training itself and perfecting the craft may take more time than any acting school. l feel like he's underrated as Batman (ditto Mark Hamill as Joker) and even non existent in the conversation. PS. You almost saw me as Leon in those new Resident Evil games :)
Love watching your Pitch Meeting videos. Even if it's a movie that I've never seen before, or it's a bad movie, it makes me want to see said movie that much more.
Ryan explaining the plot of the movie mostly explains my absolute confusion when I saw the live show. I can't say that I've ever before hated a show that I paid a crap ton of money for.
Cats is based on T.S. Eliot's poetry collection "Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats" This is the origin of "jellicle cats". This is in the closing credits as if anyone was interested enough in the movie to stay and watch the credits. After watching the original Cats pitch meeting I just went away with "Jellicle" stuck in my head but never looked it up. I was watching Logan's Run tonight and heard Peter Ustinov's character offer to give Logan and Jessica a "jellicle cat." I had to look it up since that was 1976 and predated Cats and am back here to share. Eliot's poem collection is from 1933.
My wife and I walked out during the intermission of the actual play version of Cats. So no, there wasn't anyway we were seeing the movie. Great Pitch Meeting and the new content was hysterical!
Thank you for doing this Revisited series, it's really enjoyable! And thank you for the tremendous amount of time and money spent on censoring your drawing with a Dymo label. Cats!
This was the first pitch meeting I ever watched, or one of the first at least. I'm not surprised it's one of the most viewed, because it's certainly one of the best, and I've since watched all of them more than once.
Watched this movie at a $2 movie theater blazed out of my mind and really got taken out when Cat Judi Dench stared directly into my soul at the end of the film.
@@sexydictator3241 easily top 5 right now. Barr, Di Paolo, George, McDonald, Paulsen. And yes, McDonald is on there because he lives forever as a Canadian treasure.
Oh my god, the story about the kids watching the wrong movies had me laughing so hard it hurt. I always enjoy your pics meeting but that managed to be the funniest thing you’ve done yet.
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I know it's a catchphrase and Ryan must be sick to death of it, but "Actually it's gonna be super easy! Barely an inconvenience!" still brings me joy.
Why is no one acknowledging that Matt Colville watches Pitch Meeting (including Revisited ones)?
I mean, nothing’s wrong with that but it feels like that time I saw a comment by the TH-cam with 2 likes under some popular video.
It's a modern deus ex machina
*OH, REALLY??????????????*
Hey shut up!
@@DimaJeydarwell I don't know who that is, so maybe that's why? But more likely is because this video literally came out an hour ago and his fans haven't seen this yet lol maaaaaybe give it a wee bit of time for people to watch the video and read the comments.
"The Jellical hypnosis has taken effect"
Has to be one of the most terrifying things ever said in a pitch meeting
nah it's "hail satan *some reverse wording stuff"
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.104 Ok, Not gonna.
@@holahola-ym1xvI can’t quite remember, but I believe the reverse words are ‘why did you take the time to reverse this?’
@@Judge-1964 yeah ig
@@holahola-ym1xvthat bit was hilarious and similar to his "Praise Marvel" Stan Lee be with you "😅
I'm still not convinced Cats isn't a horror movie
I hope you're being facetious....bc its a shit show
I'm still convinced it is.
It's horror-curious
It isn't?
That’s fair
I died at "Can you please not answer this question" and Ryan's gaze into the audience hahaha
May you live a long life mr George
This was the pitch meeting that introduced me to pitch meetings!! I had just seen "Cats" and I was so disoriented and felt so crazy, I had to see if folks on TH-cam felt the same way. And, lo and behold, my Pitch Meetings journey began!
I gave up on movies years ago, and just watch the Pitch Meetings, Cinema Sins and Honest Trailers. They are far more entertaining than the actual films and I waste far less time with them
The real question is, did it leave you feeling jellical? 😂🤣
@@skydonkey9515 hahaha why yes, in the middle of the film, when I started laughing uncontrollably, I think that was when the jellical hypnosis was complete
@@AngiMP indeed 😂🤣
Most movies are garbage but if you ever want to watch some again the animation renaissance is going around so if you like kids movies I'd recommend Elemental, Spiderman: Across the Spiderverse, and Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. They're diamonds among dirt, I promise@@tedferkin
Ryan telling the story about the kids in the movie theater felt like a stand up comedy routine and now I’m wanting more of that content
Imagine that that's how half the income for Cats was actually made, people intended to see a different movie😂
@@crackermalkhe is a great story teller that is for sure
Theres no way the movie theater didnt have to process refunds i saw the trailer and it was nightmare fuel. If i unwittingly brought my small child into it i would pissed off
Imagine the confusion when Ryan and his wife don't ask for a refund. "It was perfect. We had a Jellicle time. Also, it'll put our future kids through college"
I just want to be able to go to such a random and lazily toxic movie theater like that!
What a jellical revisit!
Just typed this only to see your comment, well done 😂
Yeah, I remember that pitch meeting quite well - it was so jellical!
This comment is jellical!
Just stop gretchen, your not going to make jellical happen.....
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I thumbsed up you comment.😊
I beet my cat over this
I'm pretty sure all of those cats wanted to die because they were in the movie Cats which sounds like a horror beyond all imagination.
That's a very jellicle answer
It wasn’t so much that they were in the movie Cats, but that they were in a movie featuring James Corden.
I'm relieved to know that the cats living in our barn aren't looking for various ways to die
You're going bald
That theater mix-up is one of the better stories I've heard from anyone in quite a while
Producer Guy's descent into insanity during this Pitch Meeting is hilarious. From confused to insane in 5 minutes.
wow. ok I don't understand any of this. 😂
Are you trying to imitate what you saw on honest trailers for Pitch meeting smh moron
Sounds like what would happen to me after 5 minutes of watching the movie
@@mavortius8768ppkk ok po
The most relatable producer Guy has ever been
This was my introduction to Pitch Meetings! Years later, the obsession has only grown in the most beautiful, jellical way ❤️ 🐈
Shit, I think I spelled Jellicle wrong.
Have you ever been tempted to do a Pitch Meeting for some old, obscure movie that you know most of your audience has neither seen nor heard of, but was just so strange and bizarre that you wanted to comment on it?
I'd love it if he did that! Lol, ican think of a few options... The Court Jester is a really old classic, but Zorro might be funny too!
Rocky Horror Picture Show
Or Pink Flamingos. Oh dear Lord no.
@@recoveringsoul755That's not obscure lol
@@romeisburning6739 it's old and there's lots of people probably never heard of it
The pitch meeting for this film is more popular than the actual film because people wanted confirmation of how awful and creepy looking it is without wasting time watching it and getting traumatised 😅
I remember the massive sensation Cats was when it was on Broadway, and a big part of it was the makeup design. I say that because I kept hearing from people how terrible the show itself actually was. So, the filmmakers, in their infinite wisdom, removed the aspect that everyone raved about and focussed on what people didn't like. I'd say that's become Hollywood's modus operandi.
There is a substantial chance that between the original and the revisit that this pitch meeting has been viewed more times than the actual Cats movie, and that gives me hope for humanity.
🤔... 😆
I also think more people have seen the pitch meeting for cats than went to see the actual movie...a huge waste of time, money, and talent.
This video currently has 34,000 likes, which is 34,000 more than the number of people that like the movie.
This movie is truly frightening. Thank you Ryan for doing it justice in this jellical Pitch Meeting!
Hey Ryan I have a question. Are there any movie pitch meetings that after you started recording for whatever reason decided it was to never see the light of day?
Apparently "The name "Jellicle" comes from an unpublished poem by Eliot entitled "Pollicle Dogs and Jellicle Cats", where "Pollicle dogs" is a corruption of "poor little dogs" and "Jellicle cats" of "dear little cats""
Unpolished poems are tight and of course quite jellicle
this is complete horse shit, otherwise known as Horillcle
So it's not a made up word, it's a word they expected all the viewers to understand for some reason. A word I've never heard before in my entire life.
Edit: Nvm it's still a made up word, it's just used outside of cats one time ... and has meaning... wait aren't all words technically made up but mean something?
My mom says it was from a Thommy Stearns Elly-it gRape joke gone wrong in front of his british high culture road dawgs.
Chobblesome insight!
'Cats' was actually the first Pitch Meeting I saw! My partner at the time showed it to me because we both thought the whole trainwreck of it was hilarious, and I was instantly hooked. Because it was new to me I didn't realise "super easy, barely an inconvenience" was a running gag and it just blew me away how funny it was.
I went to cats in Bangor, Maine. It was so exciting to have a Broadway musical here. I didn't understand what was going on. This pitch presentation makes me feel so much better about my own intelligence.
The live show makes no sense at all but it’s still a lot of fun. Lloyd actually wanted it to make even less sense but Nolan and Lynn, his co directors felt that a thin thread of a story would hold it together better and so they added in that bit about redemption and such. They knew fully that the show us all about ts Elliot, cats, music and most importantly dance. Making sense isn’t part of it.
Its insane that this musical was ever succesful let alone made into a film.
@@funkoxen it’s been made into two movies and both are awful, for different reasons. As a live show with a good professional cast it’s a lot of fun, even though it makes no sense at all. It’s more of a review than coherent story. And dance is the real star. Dance is always best seen live and cats is no different. One of the most popular numbers in the show is the railway cat. In this movie the dance is changed to a tap dance, and set on what looks like a real train track. It’s actually pretty scary and so the humor of the song and dance is lost. In the live show the cats make a locomotive out of stuff they find in the junk yard And the result is both funny and charming. This movie it’s like a drug induced fever dream . This is one reason the live show remains so popular
The first time I saw the Cats stage show my edgy teenage mind came to the conclusion that The Jellicle Ball was a death cult ritual. 😅
That’s because the show makes no sense at all.
Those human-cockroach mutants had a bigger effect on me, than any horror movie in the last decade. Absolute nightmare fuel....
the original sequence is a 1920s swing number. where the cats dress up as the roaches and mice and theres literally no reason to change it. it makes so more sense that way. im starting to think the people who made this movie didnt know what they were doing.
Set and setting. They invaded your psyche by being entirely out of place. One of the most horrifying things I ever saw was in an episode of American Dad
Nailed it! I feel bad for the A-Listers who took part in this dumpster 🔥
@@eatmanyzoosI think they knew what they were doing, but what they were doing was insane and terrible.
That's one of the moments that made fans of the musical think 'Good God why did they change that.' Like every decision that was made in this movie was a bad idea. They made the song worse, the costuming worse and added the cockroach eating nightmare....but I actually fucking loved it. This was the epitome of 'so bad it's good' for me.
Fun fact: You watch these movies so that we don’t have to. That is the reason some of the most terrible movies are your most successful Pitch meetings.
True. If I'm interested in a movie, I make sure I watch it before I watch the pitch. If I have zero interest in a movie, I watch neither the movie nor the pitch. But if I'm incredibly curious about a movie that looks so incredibly bad, then I'll just watch the pitch. This was the case with Cats.
What an amazing jelical comment.
Also this one's just so good I keep coming back to it and I know I'm not the only one
@@darrenmacqueen9884same, like the tomorrow war, the very concept of the film made no sense to me and watching the pitch meeting confirmed that while being more entertaining than if I had watched the movie 😅
Yup. Between this and Honest Trailers, I’ve saved thousands of dollars and hundreds of precious hours not going to terrible movies.
Thank you for your sacrifice!
This is easily my favorite pitch meeting. I think most of us refused to ever watch it and just wanted to listen to you roast it. By the way, I love the backstory of the theaters and what it was like going to see it. I knew a lot of people walked out of that movie, but probably not for the same reasons those poor kids did.
The kids probably would have liked it. Young kids often don't mind if things don't make sense. They ask a lot of questions, but absurdity doesn't diminish their enjoyment. Everyone leaving was probably cause the parents felt uncomfortable lol
Wow I had no idea digitally removing buttholes was such a major drain on Hollywood. But I guess that's just part of the art making process. I had no idea the buttholes were so difficult to properly light! Fireflies make it look so easy! What a jellicle leason we all learned here today! ❤😂
Jellically put!
You know when you’re watching a low budget independent film, and you know it’s bad, but you just can’t put your finger on why? It’s the butthole removal. Very subtle. Pay attention next time.
Although the etymology of the word is not given in Cats, or just about anywhere else, it comes from a poem by Eliot called “Pollicle Dogs and Jellicle Cats,” and Pollicle is a pet form of poor little, and Jellicle is a pet form of dear little.
That explanation leaves me even more confused.
@@fangal12same.
@@fangal12 The poet T.S. Eliot wrote a bunch of poems about cats for his godchildren. Jellicle was a nonsense word he made up to tie them together. One of the reasons the original Cats musical got such attention when it premiered was that it was pretty off-brand for Eliot's usual style, and high school English students all over were like, "You mean we could have been reading this instead of grinding our way through 'The Wasteland'?" (I was one of those students. Even did my final year presentation on Eliot's poems and him 'breaking character,' so to speak.) It strikes me as kind of like Raul Julia in "Street Fighter" - someone normally really serious proving they're just regular people by doing something neat for the kids in their lives.
@@Donna-nu8ulI learned something new today and I appreciate that.
What is Mullicle a pet form of…sweet little?
The fact that a movie theater does that to its customers is just insane
No, it's jellical.
When I was a kid, my family went to the movies and there were two Tim Allen movies (different ones) playing at the same time. One of them was the one where he pretended to be Amish to avoid the mob or something, I forget what the other one was. We bought tickets to one of them, but when the movie started playing, it was the wrong movie. My dad went out to make sure we were in the right theater and we were. So he complained. Instead of doing anything worth while, the manager just had everyone switch theaters, 15-20 minutes into the run time. Then they switched the posters and title card outside the theaters. No one got a refund or anything.
@@heroofdermwood That's insane. I've gotten a refund for a movie because of a loud screaming kid. I walked out partway through the movie and asked for it. I'd definitely be pushing hard for a refund in your situation.
I used to work at a movie theater and I was encouraged to offer free passes for any complaint. Means you come back and maybe use money on snacks, which is the only part that the theater makes money on so win win.
@McManthony21 Damn, the comment about the snacks is a good point. By the time I asked for a refund for the screaming kid I had already bought snacks. And of course they gave me free pass to come back and see a movie at another time, not an actual refund. So I came back to see the same movie the following weekend where I ended up buying snacks again. So yeah.
The bit at the end with just repeating Jelicle makes me feel clinically insane
I don’t know why, but for some reason I really like that he draws a picture in these episodes. 😂
The story about the theater is like the cherry on top of an already delicious cake. Made my day!
Definitely one of my favorites. "Wow, okay, I didn't understand any of this". "I feel completely insane, I've lost my sanity, it's gone"
This was the video that introduced me to “pitch meeting”. I will always have a jellical place in my heart for the cats pitch meeting
Aawww! That is so jellical of you! 🤗🥰🤣
There's a fantastic video called "why the music in Cats 2019 is worse than you remember" and it is a very knowledgeable rant, I assure you!
He even starts off by explaining the "plot" and comparing the musical to the movie. Don't worry if you know nothing about music to start with. 😼
Oh, Sideways! Love his content!
Lindsay Ellis also did a great breakdown of the making of the film. I think it's called, "Why Is Cats?"
That actually got me hooked on "Memory". I had no Cats background other than the Pitch Meeting, but Memory really is such an amazing performance. Understandable how the franchise was successful off the one song.
@@austinluther5825 Yeeessss! That one is soo good
This was amazing, thank you for recommending!
YES sideways is amazing!!! 🔥
One of my top 10 all time favourites, the fact that he included a jellical reference in the next one (Ghost Rider) made it even better 😂🐱
For a few moments I thought you meant Cats was a top ten movie for you and I was very confused.
7:25 Ryans true frustration at this monstrosity of a film coming through is beautiful.
It shows he really cares about cinema but also its hilarious 😂
"Maybe on stage it's okay that it doesn't [make sense]".
It's quite breathtaking to witness the pretentiousness of so much live theatre, especially musical theatre, summed up in such a concise manner.
I am stoked for this revisit. This is by far my all-time favorite pitch meeting.
I'm not sure if it's my favourite but it has stuck with me like no other.
This was my first Pitch Meeting I ever saw. It led me to binge watching a lot of them and enjoying every new one that comes out.
The ending bit DOES work better in the stage version, for a pretty simple reason: there's no fourth wall in the musical. Literally the first thing the cats do is shatter it; the entire opening number is addressed directly to the audience as well (which is why they open with a series of questions that hype up how great cats are; they are talking to humans).
When it opened, the musical was in fact pretty groundbreaking; nothing had ever broken the fourth wall like that before, with the cats addressing their audience and going out into the crowd to dance. So when it closes with Old Deuteronomy directly addressing the audience and talking about what they've just witnessed, it's a bookend -- the cats opened by talking to the crowd about their ignorance regarding cats, and they close it by talking about how now they've been enlightened. The film takes out every other fourth wall break, wrapping them into the Victoria frame story, but inexplicably chooses to leave the very final one in. Which makes no goddamn sense, but then again, nothing else does either, so why should that song be any different?
Still gives the musical too much credit
I got weirded out by this play 20 years ago and have never recovered.
Thank you for making me feel a little better about myself.
I love the slip up "so good it's bad" 😂. You should use that in a future pitch meeting sometime, that really threw me off for a second
Ryan was already jellicle when he made this, and he's even more jellicle now. SO jellicle!
I don't think I've watched a single video more than the Cats Pitch Meeting and it's still hilarious
Hey Ryan! I have a question for you: do you feel pressured to do Pitch Meetings for certain movies/shows? For example, would you watch a Disney+ Marvel show that you aren't interested in just because you think fans might expect a Pitch Meeting for it?
I mean, this is his job, so I don't think it is pressure, so much as demand. If there is a demand for a pitch meeting, and he can do it, then it makes sense to do it. I doubt he watches all these movies because he enjoys them. :D
@@shorewall Agreed
He watches garbage so we don't have to
You asked this on s cats pitch meeting..
@@captnaberystwyth2879 yeah, but that's fun bad. Secret Invasion is just bad
That's a dumb example, and the answer is already obvious, he watched all the Twilight and Hunger Games and Divergent and Maze Runner movies for the Pitch Meetings...
This pitch meeting is legit my absolutely FAVORITE pitch meeting!! The nonsense of the movie itself is represented so well and made so funny that watching the pitch has become like throwing on a fav episode of my favorite TV shows! Thank you so much for injecting so much jellical joy into my life!!
This is possibly my favorite pitch meeting ever, every joke lands, the reactions are spot on hilarious and realistic. I've never been more confused then watching this movie to. Glad you did a revisit of it!
I never understood this movie or the stage one I saw on DVD. But once I saw your Cats Pitch Meeting, I understood the story better, so, thanks for that. This is one of my favs of yours too. I have it on my liked playlist. Also when I saw this film in theaters, I was dozing off too. And those poor kids.
This has to be the best revisited Pitch Meeting, at least it is my favorite so far. The backstory on you viewing Cats was so funny 🤣.
OMG I was in tears during the cats mix up story 😂
I always thought this was the funniest Pitch Meeting. Like, tears flowing from my eyes because I'm laughing so hard. Now this is the funniest revisit. Like, my wife laughed so hard she nearly woke up the kids.
Nice work Ryan! I have three requests of old / retro movies for future Pitch Meetings (if you hadn’t already done them):
1. The Parent Trap (1961)
2. Way of the Dragon (English title, Return of the Dragon) (1972) - Bruce Lee’s character protects a restaurant in Rome; also features up-and-coming actor Chuck Norris
3. The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938); Errol Flynn in the title role.
Would be fun to see Producer Guy and Writer Guy in those eras
These are some great picks!
Reposting entire videos in a way that actually adds to it, and is still interesting and fun to watch, is super hard really an inconvenients, that’s Ryan this series is so fun
"the moon is jellicle and you're just gonna have to deal with that" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard!
This was better than a PB & jellicle sandwich! Thank you Ryan for endless entertainment ❤ Is there a movie/tv show you would never do a pitch meeting for, because it's just perfect?
He's already done The Lord of The Rings (and many other greats/classics), so the answer is clearly no.
A pitch meeting doesn’t mean it’s imperfect. It’s just a window into how producers might’ve made decisions on the back end, presented comedically
This is the best revisited pitch meeting ever! My husband and I are crying actual laughter tears!
I have used your Pitch Meetings playlist as my fall asleep playlist for months now. Something about your voice is so soothing to me. What is it? What is it about your magic voice?
I know it came out a year ago, but you should do a pitch meeting for The Menu. I feel like there’s a lot of material for that to be hilarious. 😂
Some food for thought
But the hilarious stuff is satirical - how do you satirise a satire?
He could really sink his teeth into it
@@alisaurus4224Maybe he has too much on his plate 😅
Some other food-related comment. 😁
This Pitch Meeting had me referring to absolutely everything as “jellicle” for weeks, and people would ask “what the hell are you talking about?” and I’d say “honestly, I have no idea”
I have so much weird nostalgia for this pitch meeting in particular
Wow this revisit was even better than the traditional pitch meeting. I love the anecdote about Cats confusion at the movies. And once again it was a horror film instead of their expected delight.
To be fair, the Mandarin Cats has some dark moments as well such as a girl cat dies plunging from a window and the villains abuse animals.
10:37 love the implication that, EVEN IF this channel has ruined your enjoyment of movies, you STILL shouldn't stop doing it
I always love observing how the pitch meetings have evolved. You can tell here, that there was a strong emphasis on getting the catchphrases out and to positively react to them. The setup for "SEBAI" was almost ham-handed in its eagerness to get to the catchphrase. These days, the setup is a lot smoother and the catchphrases (especially "X are tight!") aren't always treated positively, and I think that this growth makes today's pitch meetings that much more enjoyable.
Omg! I was at that detective Pikachu showing! I didn't know you were there. It was so funny with half of the audience laughing and the other half hiding their kids eyes! Really great moment!
The having the wrong crowd in your movie is real. I went to see Strays and the whole crowd was seniors. I thought they were confused but they laughed themselves silly. Good times.
Huh? Why on Earth would seniors not be interested in comedy? You're not making any sense.
I went to watch Cowboys and Aliens, and the very old couple in front of me asked for tickets to “Cowboys and Indians” and they just gave them the tickets, and I remember thinking they are probably in for a surprise.
Bro I went to see Prometheus thinking it was about Greek mythology 💀
@@buskergirl it’s technically a prequel
@@iGaximus Yep. Can hardly get more prequel than ancient Greece.
Everybody watched your pitch meeting instead of the movie.
I loved the original Cats pitch meeting and now this is my favorite revisited video. Keep up the good work
This is definitely one of my favorite Pitch Meetings, and the one I usually show people first when introducing them to this series. Still haven’t seen the actual film, but kind of feel like I need to after your amazing description. I always feel like the best Pitch Meetings are the ones where the movie is either terrible (like Cats) or crazy/bizarre (like Tim Burton’s films). Sorry you’re suffering through these for our sakes, but I love what you come up with. Keep up the amazing work!
Something similar happened to me as well. I went to see Julie & Julia (that innocent movie in which Meryl Streep plays a famous TV personality from a cooking show), but instead they started with Law Abiding Citizen, a movie with an utterly gruesome opening. The theater was full of old ladies... jeez, now that I think about, maybe these guys do it on purpose because they are bored? 🤔
Hello Ryan ~
Love your content and your videos!
I have a question, I was wondering if you have ever received any back lash or responses from any of your critical pitch meetings from a studio or industry etc etc
I loved this pitch meeting one. I remember hearing about the Cats movie and thinking “this is going to fly like a stone kite.” I guess I wasn’t wrong.
Your Pitch Meetings are wonderful. I loved this one as well. Having said that, your description at the end of the video about what happened with the mix up in the theater was funnier that the Pitch Meeting. Keep up the great.
This is absolutely one of my favorite Pitch Meetings and I still cannot decide fully if I should avoid the horror or finally watch it.
That would be a Schrödinger's Cat kind of question.
If you like making up your own mind about what you enjoy and not what the crowd tells you is okay, you might be surprised, I certainly was. I thought I was going to see a train wreck and instead found I really enjoyed the film. Sure, the costumes and CGI are a bit weird, but looking past that were great performances by truly talented people and a story about redemption that was moving. I like musicals though and understand their shorthand storytelling. If you already despise musicals and just want to join onto the "wow, that was stupid" bandwagon, then don't bother seeing it, I think it's already been shat on enough.
It's truly unfortunate that they didn't choose to use cartoon animation instead, it probably would have been a hit.
The film certainly has a much better structured story than the Broadway play.
definitely one of the movies of all time
I politely disagree. This kind of comment fits movies like Morbius that just exist. But Cats, Cats is special. Not in a good way but definitely special.
@@someAliasOnTheWeb Morbius is fun at least
unintentionally sure but still fun
A slight side track but within the realm; could you consider creating a tribute to the late and amazing Kevin Conroy? He passed away last November, and was the sole reason I got into acting. I have a voice acting background and there are some preconceived notions that it's not as demanding as regular acting; but the vocal training itself and perfecting the craft may take more time than any acting school. l feel like he's underrated as Batman (ditto Mark Hamill as Joker) and even non existent in the conversation. PS. You almost saw me as Leon in those new Resident Evil games :)
I feel like movie and comic book fans know who Kevin Conroy was, and they appreciate both Mark and his contributions to the Batman universe.
Imagine 4 years from now, when we'll be watching pitch meeting Revisited, REVISITED!
Personally, I'd still be down for that.
Love watching your Pitch Meeting videos. Even if it's a movie that I've never seen before, or it's a bad movie, it makes me want to see said movie that much more.
Hurrah for Ryan !!! Keep’em coming. Hysterical videos & content 🇨🇦
Ryan explaining the plot of the movie mostly explains my absolute confusion when I saw the live show. I can't say that I've ever before hated a show that I paid a crap ton of money for.
Cats is based on T.S. Eliot's poetry collection "Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats" This is the origin of "jellicle cats". This is in the closing credits as if anyone was interested enough in the movie to stay and watch the credits.
After watching the original Cats pitch meeting I just went away with "Jellicle" stuck in my head but never looked it up. I was watching Logan's Run tonight and heard Peter Ustinov's character offer to give Logan and Jessica a "jellicle cat." I had to look it up since that was 1976 and predated Cats and am back here to share. Eliot's poem collection is from 1933.
Thank you!
My wife and I walked out during the intermission of the actual play version of Cats. So no, there wasn't anyway we were seeing the movie. Great Pitch Meeting and the new content was hysterical!
I love your Pro Tips series! Any plans to continue with it, or are you too busy with all your other projects? Thank you for all the entertainment. 😊
Mac and me pitch meeting please.
41 comments for Mac and me ....it's gonna happen one day ....I know it
Hey Ryan! Love your videos! I was wondering if you like the character Screenwriter Guy or Producer Guy more?
Thank you for doing this Revisited series, it's really enjoyable! And thank you for the tremendous amount of time and money spent on censoring your drawing with a Dymo label.
Cats!
Love seeing this revisited. This was the Pitch that introduced me to Ryan and the channel.
Have you considered doing more pitch meetings for old movies? Like before the 2000's?
The musical is actually one of my favorites, but it *really, really* was in the right medium.
Everytime an anime fight ends, in my head Ryan's voice validates how super easy, barely an inconvenience it actually was
This was the first pitch meeting I ever watched, or one of the first at least. I'm not surprised it's one of the most viewed, because it's certainly one of the best, and I've since watched all of them more than once.
Watched this movie at a $2 movie theater blazed out of my mind and really got taken out when Cat Judi Dench stared directly into my soul at the end of the film.
Take any time you need. It's obviously earned, but don't stop being awesome.
Oh, he'll never stop being awesome. 🙂
@@sexydictator3241 easily top 5 right now.
Barr, Di Paolo, George, McDonald, Paulsen.
And yes, McDonald is on there because he lives forever as a Canadian treasure.
It must've been quite a soul-search, to decide what to draw for this one.
This was my first Pitch Meeting! I am one of the reasons this video is so popular as I have watched it many times. 😂
Oh my god, the story about the kids watching the wrong movies had me laughing so hard it hurt.
I always enjoy your pics meeting but that managed to be the funniest thing you’ve done yet.
Know idea why but this jellicle pitch meeting is my jellicle pitch meeting out of all the pitch meetings. Truly jellicle episode.
The movie that sent Producer guy to the asylum
Please make a Pitch Meeting for National Treasure!!!! I feel like it's perfect for a Pitch Meeting
It truly was one of the movie musicals of 2019
"Revisited" is a pretty brilliant way of bringing the older episodes over to the new channel...
Thank you for that movie theatre Cats anecdote. Had me in stitches.
This was one of my favorite pitch meetings ever 😂😂😂