I don't have children but I can imagine how excruciating it would be to watch my child become consumed by this. I wouldn't be able to watch the changes to their body. It's heartbreaking to think of the amount of grief and anger they are experiencing.
❤ So needed! My young adult is scheduled for surg in 3 weeks. 😢wish they would only press pause. I tried to pushback with so many of these connected ideas. But they are a steel door even tho they are typically so insightful and uber intelligent. I've been desperate for this kind of amazing book of support from people who are pushing back on this insanity. After so much research and support from your channel, I did not affirm. But its created distance with a thread. Knowing I'm trying to point out the broader impacts at a point of swift change, there is no moving the dial. Wish it were available now! Regardless, tysm for this huge effort in all that you both do.
Oh that's so difficult! It sounds like you tried really hard to connect and share your concerns. That's all we can do in many cases with adult children. Best of luck to you and your family
Thank you both for putting out this book and for all the truly thoughtful work that you are doing with Genspect. Parents need more resources and support in working things out for their particular circumstances and families - resources that truly are objective and knowledgeable and open-minded; that acknowledge the diversity of family experiences and aren't "one-size -fits-all" approaches, which frankly, the affirmation protocol seems to be. (And a side note on the name issue: I totally agree that the names matter, especially for parents; and if names truly didn't matter - as some kids like to say - then why would they feel the need to drastically change them? After all, so many names these days are being used for both sexes ... Also, I can remember my dad getting truly irritated if anyone tried to call me "Chrissy" or "Christie" when I was young. Either pronounce her full name or just call her Chris was his approach. He respected females and was so happy he had a girl, but felt no need to push gender stereotypes. No cutesy names or frilly stuff; his daughter could be and dress any way she wanted to. I love him for that - amongst many other characteristics he had)
Calling homosexuals "mentally ill people" because of your religion does not help gender non-conforming youth in Brazil, though. You're actually contradicting Sasha and Stella's work.
Please look at the Australian 4 corners episode. As a detrans/desisted middle aged woman I found it disturbing. They’re essentially transitioning kids to fit sex based stereotypes. They failed to connect the dots that kids from damaged homes with assault or missing parents or siblings are transitioning. They also only interviewed child transitioners who were still too young to have their brain fully developed. The oldest trans child they interviewed was 22. I didn’t realise I was wrong till my 40s and even now I don’t identify with what the world thinks a woman is - and I don’t have to because it’s all made up.
@@noroomforsquares4483 it’s got some tough scenes because they include a teenager who self deleted. Though they didn’t include the exact opposite situation for balance - people self delete years AFTER transition. They also didn’t discuss the lack of therapy given to that teenager. Transitioning was seen as the one option and no other options were explored. The teenager might not have self deleted if their other issues were addressed. Of course parents look for reasons why so naturally they blamed delayed transition. Might’ve been bullying because of a lack of acceptance of gender nonconformity or homophobia or other co-occurring mental health problems. Child/teen transition is VERY new and previous generations didn’t have teens self deleting because they couldn’t transition, which should make us all of that what’s really happening now? I know numerous adults who had to wait till their 20s, 30s, 40s to transition and I know none who even attempted to self delete (other than myself). So, if they made it, why can’t the teens? That needs to be seriously looked into.
Can I thank you both for all you are doing to protect children you have taught me a lot for example to keep my cool and now I feel confident to give facts and reasons to why I feel this whole ideological movement is wrong
Thank you Sasha and Stella. I wish that there had been a book like this, but on the topic of anorexia, years ago when my daughter was struggling. Your book will be a gift to struggling parents.
@@widerlenspod me!? 😊 If you d need someone to connect you with a german translator, i'd know a professional. But she lost custody of her now 18 y.o. in the mean time desisted daughter a year ago, so it might be too much for her. But maybe she'd love being involved.
I never liked my birth name for myself so have used many names and changed it legally a couple times and now as a aging gen xer am considering changing it back to my birth name as a show of gratitude to my late mother. I just love names😂
Sasha -love the topic idea "what's in a name?" - please do that! You nailed it when you said these kids who grew up on screens with avatars and screen names "are almost trying their real life identity like a virtual identity." Is this normal??
The name thing, I think it’s a reflection of the lack of deference in our culture. That’s not all bad, but it has left children with a lack of respect for parents choices. They shrug them off as if they’re not important, as if they can rewrite their own history and remove any influence of their family. It’s a shame. I’ve found small children are so keen to understand their history and it is important.
Congratulations! One of my childhood friends (who didn't have gender dysphoria) had a strong dislike for her name as a child. She would use the name when she played with us. I remember this from age 10 or so. We drifted apart over the years because of moves and just generally growing up and apart. She now goes by that name. She is an actor, so I find this very interesting. There's probably more to the story there. Maybe it's the sound of the name or perhaps part of her much needed individuation. I find it interesting because I thought most actors who changed their name were doing so to be more marketable. But now I wonder if there is more to it for actors, maybe it's a need when you play other people, to have to solidify your own identity so strongly. I have also noticed by reading playbill at the theatre or at school plays that quite a few of them take on other sex pronouns. Are artists more sensitive or prone to finding themselves? I am sharing this because of your talk at the beginning of Lionel Shriver being twelve when she changed her name.
A very real reason for actors taking new names is that they cannot use professionally,a name that is already being used by someone else however obscure. But yes...acting is all about dressing up and make-believe and being someone else so that would be interesting to take a look at.
Actors often changed their names, or the studio insisted on it, if it sounded too “foreign” (Ramón Estevez->Martin Sheen) or Jewish ( Issur Danielovitch->Kirk Douglas)
Congratulations to you both, Stella and Sasha!! This is so exciting and you've both worked so hard. I can see how much you care about children, their mental health and how they'll grow up in this current social climate. I can't wait to order your book!! ❤💛😄
Thank you for what you are doing. In the US this has become so partisan it is really hard to get people to give this a look with fresh non-partisan eyes and dig into the data/lack of data. I am a lifelong leftie and anytime I approach a longtime friend or family matter on this topic I fear they will dismiss me as someone who has been recruited into right wing ideology (even though I continue to be economically and socially left).
Short answer to the question: no. No child is born in the wrong body, nobody can know what it feels like to be what they are not (imagination and empathy are not the same as experiential knowledge), secondary sex characteristics do not determine somatic sex, and a culture’s socially constructed sex roles are often arbitrary and irrelevant to biological sex roles.
Thanks so much for listening. Indeed, it certainly can feel that way. We allude to this in one of our older episodes: gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/why-do-people-seek-a-new-identity
The name thing is interesting. If your name is Samantha, why not go by Sam? To change a name to something completely different is making a clear break from the past.
10:35 " you have to transform from the inside out" yet our modern society does not have the wisdom and methods to do that themselves, and cannot therefore teach the young.
I'm glad you wrote a book, and I look forward to reading it, but going through chapter by chapter is really a poor way of marketing it. Most of us who are regular podcast listeners already know this stuff, so maybe we're not the target audience, but a better use of your time in talking about it in the podcast may have been talking about the process of writing it. It's also not coming out until October, so I don't know why you're talking about it now. Honestly, this was a total waste of podcast episode, and I say that as someone who has listened to every episode and who enjoys 90 percent of them.
Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is not recognized by major professional organizations. Littman's survey was conducted in a biased manner. She only queried parents from anti-trans websites, meaning her data only includes answers from parents who are already disinclined to support their children, or who were being told not to listen to their children by people on those sites. Her paper approached this with an assumption in search of data to prove the assumption. She didn't ask supportive parents, she didn't interview actual trans adults or children, and she didn't talk with the medical professionals who work with them. For questioning parents, I understand it is confusing and scary. But instead of jumping to "it was sudden and must be rapid onset", perhaps ask yourself or your child why they might have hidden themselves from you. Adult trans people have said they waited until they were sure they could survive on their own if they had to before telling their family. A simpler answer than social contagion would be that your child didn't trust that you would be supportive. That may be rational, but it may also just be irrational because they know so many other trans people have been kicked out. Supportive doesn't mean immediately jumping to surgery, but being open to talking and understanding in a non judgemental way. Maybe they aren't trans and they'll figure that out. But it's most important to reassure your child then you're there for them, no matter what.
Studies on the parents who believe they have ROGD kids overwhelmingly show they are supportive of trans ppl and generally progressives. Painting all those parents and those websites as "anti-trans" is clearly false. There has been far too much parent-blaming. It also makes perfect sense to do a study on ROGD in a place where you'd find them. She wasn't going to look on a fly-fishing website and then declare ROGD is not real. I wonder do you apply this critique to other studies such as those on regret? What's your position on the Dutch protocol? I think most ppl would agree with that last paragraph. Unfortunately the affirmative care model doesn't follow that sensible advice. We've seen it time and time again. It's a conveyor belt system and we also know it captures a disproportionate number of autistic kids, homosexual or bisexual kids and kids with all kinds of comorbidities including ones that could easily be misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria (e.g. Body dysmorphia) If you don't believe it is ROGD what is your alternative explanation for why the numbers have completely changed from young boys to teenage girls in a short period of time? We have no other example in world history I'm aware of where teenage girls are the main third gender group despite us having evidence of third gender societies. The total numbers are also completely new. We have no examples of societies where 5% of ppl are trans (young Americans) or in one study 9% of middle schoolers. What is your explanation for ppl who say, yes I was caught up in the social contagion? I can understand someone thinking the numbers are much lower but the explanations given never make sense to me and usually rely on a false history whereby trans ppl were oppressed worldwide forever and suddenly are coming where they are most accepted (which incidentally seems to less accepting places). Anyway let me know your thoughts.
@@DangerJim-vq5uhYes, exactly 💯 The ppl who think parents were just unaware of a child's gender incongruity, with or without dysphoria, either are not parents themselves OR were very poor unattached parents. There's zero chance that prepubescent children, especially pre-schoolers, who babble a constant stream of consciousness all day every day are hiding *anything* LOL They're so open and curious about absolutely everything. It isn't until they start becoming more self conscious that they start keeping any thoughts to themselves. I have a big family and have been around small children all of my life - including as a parent. If any of these teens who developed gender dysphoria or aquired a trans identity had had these feelings as children it would've been so obvious.... Just as it's obvious that people who say all of these kids were just hiding it aren't parents.
Do you recognize also that studies that only look at trans identifying ppl also are very biased? Whether or not you do - they are. Revisionist history seems to be a feature of this group. After they become trans identifying i.e. once they "have the language" ...they look back at every point in their lives when they liked something non stereotypical or were ever uncomfortable with their bodies and to them it all fits bc the reasons for these things is "im trans". Of course. Couldn't be normal development that everyone experiences or preferences due to individual personality.🙄 I've personally witnessed this IRL and I've read loads of "egg" stories. "I let my cousin paint my nails and I liked it. I didn't understand it then, but I do now - it's bc I'm actually a girl Omg!" No, it's not. Gender incongruity in children isn't mysterious. They actually think and say that they are the opposite sex, frequently, and everyone knows it - they don't hide it. These kids with an internal and completely organic cross sex identification don't have to search "am I trans?" and search the internet to discover they have a trans identity when they're teenagers and then justify it by making things from their past match the identity. 😂
I don't have children but I can imagine how excruciating it would be to watch my child become consumed by this. I wouldn't be able to watch the changes to their body. It's heartbreaking to think of the amount of grief and anger they are experiencing.
Indeed, thanks for your comment!
The Left and the mindless, low information Democrats voters that put this evil cult in power in the USA are causing us all immense grief and dispare.
❤ So needed! My young adult is scheduled for surg in 3 weeks. 😢wish they would only press pause. I tried to pushback with so many of these connected ideas. But they are a steel door even tho they are typically so insightful and uber intelligent. I've been desperate for this kind of amazing book of support from people who are pushing back on this insanity. After so much research and support from your channel, I did not affirm. But its created distance with a thread. Knowing I'm trying to point out the broader impacts at a point of swift change, there is no moving the dial. Wish it were available now! Regardless, tysm for this huge effort in all that you both do.
Oh that's so difficult! It sounds like you tried really hard to connect and share your concerns. That's all we can do in many cases with adult children. Best of luck to you and your family
❤ tysm for your thoughtful comments.. very real discussions are so helpful & even comforting.
Big hugs
I've been waiting for this book for months :)! So glad to be able to read it soon. Thank you so much for your amazing work.
Maria, we hope you get a lot out of it! Thank you
Thank you both for putting out this book and for all the truly thoughtful work that you are doing with Genspect. Parents need more resources and support in working things out for their particular circumstances and families - resources that truly are objective and knowledgeable and open-minded; that acknowledge the diversity of family experiences and aren't "one-size -fits-all" approaches, which frankly, the affirmation protocol seems to be. (And a side note on the name issue: I totally agree that the names matter, especially for parents; and if names truly didn't matter - as some kids like to say - then why would they feel the need to drastically change them? After all, so many names these days are being used for both sexes ... Also, I can remember my dad getting truly irritated if anyone tried to call me "Chrissy" or "Christie" when I was young. Either pronounce her full name or just call her Chris was his approach. He respected females and was so happy he had a girl, but felt no need to push gender stereotypes. No cutesy names or frilly stuff; his daughter could be and dress any way she wanted to. I love him for that - amongst many other characteristics he had)
That's refreshing. Thanks for your comment
It is gonna be a pleasure to have you soon. I am doing my part of the game in Brazil and I've always recommended your podcast.
We are looking forward to it!
Calling homosexuals "mentally ill people" because of your religion does not help gender non-conforming youth in Brazil, though. You're actually contradicting Sasha and Stella's work.
Please look at the Australian 4 corners episode. As a detrans/desisted middle aged woman I found it disturbing. They’re essentially transitioning kids to fit sex based stereotypes. They failed to connect the dots that kids from damaged homes with assault or missing parents or siblings are transitioning. They also only interviewed child transitioners who were still too young to have their brain fully developed. The oldest trans child they interviewed was 22. I didn’t realise I was wrong till my 40s and even now I don’t identify with what the world thinks a woman is - and I don’t have to because it’s all made up.
Thanks for your suggestion
I haven't worked up the courage to watch it yet, although i did read the accompanying article on the ABC news site.
@@noroomforsquares4483 it’s got some tough scenes because they include a teenager who self deleted. Though they didn’t include the exact opposite situation for balance - people self delete years AFTER transition. They also didn’t discuss the lack of therapy given to that teenager. Transitioning was seen as the one option and no other options were explored. The teenager might not have self deleted if their other issues were addressed. Of course parents look for reasons why so naturally they blamed delayed transition. Might’ve been bullying because of a lack of acceptance of gender nonconformity or homophobia or other co-occurring mental health problems.
Child/teen transition is VERY new and previous generations didn’t have teens self deleting because they couldn’t transition, which should make us all of that what’s really happening now? I know numerous adults who had to wait till their 20s, 30s, 40s to transition and I know none who even attempted to self delete (other than myself). So, if they made it, why can’t the teens? That needs to be seriously looked into.
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Can I thank you both for all you are doing to protect children you have taught me a lot for example to keep my cool and now I feel confident to give facts and reasons to why I feel this whole ideological movement is wrong
Thank you for your support
When I was a teenager (in the 1950s) everyone wanted to change their name. Often, they wanted to go by their middle name. I think it is a universal.
Thank you Sasha and Stella. I wish that there had been a book like this, but on the topic of anorexia, years ago when my daughter was struggling. Your book will be a gift to struggling parents.
Thank you both for your dedication of time and energy to this profoundly important work!!
Thanks Drew
I wish they'd go on a book signing tour. I'd be there in a flash.
Come to Denver November 4th and 5th this year for the second Bigger Picture Conference of GenSpect!
We'd be thrilled to see you both there
Looking forward to reading this congrats on gettinv this out there 🎉
This book needs to be translated fast in many languages! Thank you for your work, Stella, Sasha and Genspect with all associated organisations!
Thank you too!
@@widerlenspod me!? 😊
If you d need someone to connect you with a german translator, i'd know a professional. But she lost custody of her now 18 y.o. in the mean time desisted daughter a year ago, so it might be too much for her. But maybe she'd love being involved.
This gives me some hope.
I never liked my birth name for myself so have used many names and changed it legally a couple times and now as a aging gen xer am considering changing it back to my birth name as a show of gratitude to my late mother. I just love names😂
I just pre-ordered the book! I wish that I didn’t have to wait until October for it to arrive.
What an amazing job! Thank you for your work! ❤
Can’t wait to read it!! ❤
thanks!
Thanks for everything you do. I've learned so much from this podcast!
thank you!
Sasha -love the topic idea "what's in a name?" - please do that! You nailed it when you said these kids who grew up on screens with avatars and screen names "are almost trying their real life identity like a virtual identity." Is this normal??
Here's a brief clip and the full video is in Sasha's Parent Membership Group: th-cam.com/video/pgVL7ENmwFE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XFg-f0NV0oBxHGk1
The name thing, I think it’s a reflection of the lack of deference in our culture. That’s not all bad, but it has left children with a lack of respect for parents choices. They shrug them off as if they’re not important, as if they can rewrite their own history and remove any influence of their family.
It’s a shame. I’ve found small children are so keen to understand their history and it is important.
Looking forward to your book. Such a natural progression for the three of you!❤
Thanks Lisa!
Congratulations! One of my childhood friends (who didn't have gender dysphoria) had a strong dislike for her name as a child. She would use the name when she played with us. I remember this from age 10 or so. We drifted apart over the years because of moves and just generally growing up and apart. She now goes by that name. She is an actor, so I find this very interesting. There's probably more to the story there. Maybe it's the sound of the name or perhaps part of her much needed individuation. I find it interesting because I thought most actors who changed their name were doing so to be more marketable. But now I wonder if there is more to it for actors, maybe it's a need when you play other people, to have to solidify your own identity so strongly. I have also noticed by reading playbill at the theatre or at school plays that quite a few of them take on other sex pronouns. Are artists more sensitive or prone to finding themselves?
I am sharing this because of your talk at the beginning of Lionel Shriver being twelve when she changed her name.
Good point, the relevance of her being an actor is an interesting angle to think about
A very real reason for actors taking new names is that they cannot use professionally,a name that is already being used by someone else however obscure.
But yes...acting is all about dressing up and make-believe and being someone else so that would be interesting to take a look at.
Actors often changed their names, or the studio insisted on it, if it sounded too “foreign” (Ramón Estevez->Martin Sheen) or Jewish ( Issur Danielovitch->Kirk Douglas)
Congratulations to you both, Stella and Sasha!! This is so exciting and you've both worked so hard. I can see how much you care about children, their mental health and how they'll grow up in this current social climate. I can't wait to order your book!! ❤💛😄
Thank you very much!
Fifteen minutes in and I haven't yet heard "about the book"!! Do they ever get to it?
Thank you for what you are doing. In the US this has become so partisan it is really hard to get people to give this a look with fresh non-partisan eyes and dig into the data/lack of data. I am a lifelong leftie and anytime I approach a longtime friend or family matter on this topic I fear they will dismiss me as someone who has been recruited into right wing ideology (even though I continue to be economically and socially left).
Isn't it so awful! So many liberals disagree with some of the radical gender ideology and their concerns are often mischaracterized.
Thank you for the hard work!
The you can't tell the book by its cover craziness has already started.
Short answer to the question: no. No child is born in the wrong body, nobody can know what it feels like to be what they are not (imagination and empathy are not the same as experiential knowledge), secondary sex characteristics do not determine somatic sex, and a culture’s socially constructed sex roles are often arbitrary and irrelevant to biological sex roles.
yes, thanks for your comment. good points
The real identity is virtual?
Alice was so ahead of her time.
Oh my gosh! What a wonderful idea! Congratulations!
Thank you so much, Jen!
As Ive been listening to the wisdom and kindness of you both and your guests Ive been wondering : Is gender identity really gender persona?
Thanks so much for listening. Indeed, it certainly can feel that way. We allude to this in one of our older episodes: gender-a-wider-lens.captivate.fm/episode/why-do-people-seek-a-new-identity
My late wife had a girl friend whose name was Floyd , who knows ?
interesting name!
The name thing is interesting. If your name is Samantha, why not go by Sam? To change a name to something completely different is making a clear break from the past.
10:35 " you have to transform from the inside out" yet our modern society does not have the wisdom and methods to do that themselves, and cannot therefore teach the young.
I'm glad you wrote a book, and I look forward to reading it, but going through chapter by chapter is really a poor way of marketing it. Most of us who are regular podcast listeners already know this stuff, so maybe we're not the target audience, but a better use of your time in talking about it in the podcast may have been talking about the process of writing it. It's also not coming out until October, so I don't know why you're talking about it now.
Honestly, this was a total waste of podcast episode, and I say that as someone who has listened to every episode and who enjoys 90 percent of them.
Thanks for this feedback
It would be a pretty short book: "No."
Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria is not recognized by major professional organizations. Littman's survey was conducted in a biased manner. She only queried parents from anti-trans websites, meaning her data only includes answers from parents who are already disinclined to support their children, or who were being told not to listen to their children by people on those sites. Her paper approached this with an assumption in search of data to prove the assumption. She didn't ask supportive parents, she didn't interview actual trans adults or children, and she didn't talk with the medical professionals who work with them.
For questioning parents, I understand it is confusing and scary. But instead of jumping to "it was sudden and must be rapid onset", perhaps ask yourself or your child why they might have hidden themselves from you. Adult trans people have said they waited until they were sure they could survive on their own if they had to before telling their family.
A simpler answer than social contagion would be that your child didn't trust that you would be supportive. That may be rational, but it may also just be irrational because they know so many other trans people have been kicked out.
Supportive doesn't mean immediately jumping to surgery, but being open to talking and understanding in a non judgemental way. Maybe they aren't trans and they'll figure that out. But it's most important to reassure your child then you're there for them, no matter what.
Studies on the parents who believe they have ROGD kids overwhelmingly show they are supportive of trans ppl and generally progressives.
Painting all those parents and those websites as "anti-trans" is clearly false. There has been far too much parent-blaming. It also makes perfect sense to do a study on ROGD in a place where you'd find them. She wasn't going to look on a fly-fishing website and then declare ROGD is not real. I wonder do you apply this critique to other studies such as those on regret? What's your position on the Dutch protocol?
I think most ppl would agree with that last paragraph. Unfortunately the affirmative care model doesn't follow that sensible advice. We've seen it time and time again. It's a conveyor belt system and we also know it captures a disproportionate number of autistic kids, homosexual or bisexual kids and kids with all kinds of comorbidities including ones that could easily be misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria (e.g. Body dysmorphia)
If you don't believe it is ROGD what is your alternative explanation for why the numbers have completely changed from young boys to teenage girls in a short period of time? We have no other example in world history I'm aware of where teenage girls are the main third gender group despite us having evidence of third gender societies. The total numbers are also completely new. We have no examples of societies where 5% of ppl are trans (young Americans) or in one study 9% of middle schoolers.
What is your explanation for ppl who say, yes I was caught up in the social contagion?
I can understand someone thinking the numbers are much lower but the explanations given never make sense to me and usually rely on a false history whereby trans ppl were oppressed worldwide forever and suddenly are coming where they are most accepted (which incidentally seems to less accepting places).
Anyway let me know your thoughts.
@@DangerJim-vq5uhYes, exactly 💯
The ppl who think parents were just unaware of a child's gender incongruity, with or without dysphoria, either are not parents themselves OR were very poor unattached parents.
There's zero chance that prepubescent children, especially pre-schoolers, who babble a constant stream of consciousness all day every day are hiding *anything* LOL They're so open and curious about absolutely everything.
It isn't until they start becoming more self conscious that they start keeping any thoughts to themselves.
I have a big family and have been around small children all of my life - including as a parent. If any of these teens who developed gender dysphoria or aquired a trans identity had had these feelings as children it would've been so obvious.... Just as it's obvious that people who say all of these kids were just hiding it aren't parents.
Do you recognize also that studies that only look at trans identifying ppl also are very biased? Whether or not you do - they are.
Revisionist history seems to be a feature of this group. After they become trans identifying i.e. once they "have the language" ...they look back at every point in their lives when they liked something non stereotypical or were ever uncomfortable with their bodies and to them it all fits bc the reasons for these things is "im trans". Of course. Couldn't be normal development that everyone experiences or preferences due to individual personality.🙄
I've personally witnessed this IRL and I've read loads of "egg" stories. "I let my cousin paint my nails and I liked it. I didn't understand it then, but I do now - it's bc I'm actually a girl Omg!" No, it's not.
Gender incongruity in children isn't mysterious. They actually think and say that they are the opposite sex, frequently, and everyone knows it - they don't hide it. These kids with an internal and completely organic cross sex identification don't have to search "am I trans?" and search the internet to discover they have a trans identity when they're teenagers and then justify it by making things from their past match the identity. 😂
The entire trans movement is a lie. No one asks what is the ideology behind the gender ideology?