Good Evening Ernie, We truly hope this comment finds you well. As we stated on IG, we sincerely appreciate your wonderful support and amazing encouragement with regards to our Pack Stove. It has been a long and arduous process, however, receiving such tremendous feedback from people like you make it all worth it. Your video review is top notch and hits upon so many excellent points. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video and helping us spread the word. Per your critique on the bags, which we find to be spot on, we are moving forward with a different option. Your honesty and input is much appreciated. Finally, I used the “paleo” method of starting the stove today and it worked brilliantly... footage coming soon.
How is this a game changer? Because of that small pot stand that holds the Stanley Cook Cup beautifully! Those of us who love the Stanley know the limits of finding a stove with a small enough inner circumference to prevent it from sinking through while being large enough in the outer circumference to make the tall Stanley stable and safe from spills. This new little stove does All That. Showed this vid to hubby and he loves it too. It's a huge "GOTTA GET ONE" for us! FINALLY THE STANLEY CUP HAS A SOLID MATE! 💯🎯👍❤
Ok... first off I just add you to my list of subscriptions. #2 WoW!! To that stove!! I bet more than half of the outdoors community owns that Stanly cook-cup but they don’t carry it cu’z the only good way of using it was over an open fire. This little stove is a game changer. Although $44 isn’t a bad price for a early production run I really hope the price comes down in the near future. I’m a older retired guy & have a limited income so it’s still a little steep for me, but I must have one of these elegantly simple wonders before I die!! I hope this little company takes the outdoors world by storm!!
Roger that, Mr. Nichols. Price does matter. I'm 71, and havta sometimes decide whether to buy something to eat, or a camp stove to cook it on. Have a great year, and see ya on the Trail!
Based on your review, and watching this video multiple times, I bought one of these stoves. I’m very happy with it. You are right, the fire can get super hot and blow through the wood, but water heats up quickly. It’s a good problem to have. Even wet wood will burn hot, once the stove gets going. Thanks for introducing this stove to me.
Cool little stove. Glad that somebody finally figured a way to use that Stanley on a little stove. The tapered bottom on the Stanley makes it hard to fit most stoves out there. Good job Ernie!!!! looking forward to the next video
Seems since it took this long for Stanley to good a decent working option that Stanley would have took the time to alter the cup for existing options. Don't get me wrong I have a rediculous amount of Stanley gear for camping and life in general, I love their products. I would gladly buy a redesign 2.0 to use more easily with my gasifier pack stove. Would probably be more stable on my svea 123r as well. I do know they taper that corner though for ease of cleaning. The other large pots are the same way.
I’m still fan of firebox stoves. Small company the guy makes cool videos on how versatile it is and how it works in many fuels and situations and styles of cooking.
I like the Firebox Nano as well. Because it folds flat I can pack it anywhere, including a small fanny pack for a short hike. It also fits in the pocket of the Pathfinder water bottle carrier for my 32 oz stainless bottle. My alcohol stove, small 3 oz bottle of alcohol and GSI cup and I am set to purify water or make a quick bite in a matter of minutes even in inclement weather.
"Some kind of weirdo" is relative when you're in the woods talking to a camera by yourself about a tiny stove when you probably have a working one a home 🙂 Beautiful stove thanks for sharing!
That is a nicely designed stove ! Not for the lightweight or ultralight category but a dependable, versatile stove ! The Stanely pot was my first decent, small pot I bought , probably 15 years ago and it's still a good reliable pot.
Enjoyed the video and ordered the stove to go with my Stanley Pot because I like supporting small business too. Supporter of Firebox stoves with their innovative designs too.
I really like small stoves and I like ones that can use different fuels. I like the look and simplicity of that stove and I may have to get one soon to add to my small stove collection.
Kind of like a magic trick, whaaaa! Great video Ernie! I appreciate the cool shout out man. Great info, I’m really glad you’re enjoying this stove..Dude.. the coffee rocket fits perfect! Nice find.
Really the the idea of this stove ! I have that cook set and it is one of my favorites so this will be a nice addition to my gear. Thank you for the great video and for introducing this stove. I purchased one. Can’t wait to try it :)
Thank you so very much!! We are actually packing up your stove box today and will have it out to you in short order. We greatly appreciate your support and truly hope you enjoy the stove!
@@jimcarlson6157 Hello Jim, I apologize for the not responding sooner. Unfortunately, several months ago we made the hard decision to close down our business. Therefore, we no longer have any products available. I apologize for the inconvenience. Be well- Mac
LIKE THIS STOVE !! VERY FUNCTIONAL AND SMALL SIZE GIVES OPTIONS FOR HEAT SOURCES !! YES ... MANY STOVES ON THE MARKET !!! LOVE THE MADE IN THE USA BY FAMILY/SMALL BIZ !!!!
I am really happy with my gasifier, but if I was in the market, this design would be interesting. also looks like you could put a decent fire kit in the bottom while it is packed up. the removable top/bottom would hold a round tin in if you could find one that fit it tight.
It seems like most of these little wood stoves are designed to be multi-fuel, which is pretty neat. Although not as light or compact as my Firebox Nano 2 steel, it is cheaper and comes with everything. Even the X kit from Firebox doesn't come with the additional windscreen or solid fuel plate. I love the Firebox Nano, for the record and it is worth the money!
Brilliant setup Ernie. Love how you nested all that together. Just need this stove and the Evernew titanium and I'd be able to match you kit. Thanks for sharing!
The first time I saw a hobo stove it really started me thinking about what else is there that is just lying around that can be adapted to survival gear. Ingenious device.
Great product review. Small packable twig stoves are very nice. I just subscribed to Shane Coffey Outdoors a couple of days ago. Take Care and Keep Exploring The Outdoors.
Ingenious and well thought out. As far as being multi fuel ( alcohol , wood and solid ) there are a couple others out there which have the same ability. I use a trick in my wood burning stoves to get a longer burning time without having to feed the fire all the time. I Loosely stack the sticks upright in the fire chamber. 2 good experiments you might like would be lighting it like you did on one test. You know it will burn but for how long ? Next one light the top of the sticks on this test. With all that ventilation it should draw in enough air from the bottom up to burn from the top down. I use a Evernew titanium burner in my stoves as a 2nd heat source for a quick hot beverage. I pack it in a zip lock inside my cup. The zip lock is to keep any unburned alcohol or residue from the cup. Just playing it safe since Denatured alcohol has a poison in it so you can't drink it.
A well thought out stove, and thanks for your review. I searched your vids, and haven't found any on the SilverFire brand stoves. I have both the Scout and Survivor stoves, and love them.
I've been fooling around with 28 oz and larger cans to create a combination heat-retention chamber and wind-block for my Stanley. Haven't achieved what I was hoping. This looks like it does the trick with less bulk and more finesse ...
I have a feeling if you can swap that center grate with the holey grate you might be able to drop your alcohol stove into it. Instead of just setting it on the ground... excellent bit of kit, like others I'm glad to see something the Stanley fits into. I think a waxed canvas bag, or oilskin bag with a round bottom.
This looks REALLY cool but not sure if it will drag me away from my firebox stoves. I have more stoves then I need right now. 😂 Thx for the great review.
Good Evening, We hope this finds you well. Thank you for the kind comments on the stove. As for your affinity for the Firebox, we 150% agree! As we stated above to another viewer, we think the Firebox is truly an exceptional stove- not to mention pioneer of the market and the Gen 2 - 5” is especially top class. If you are doing some solid camp cooking for multiple people, you would be hard pressed to find a better option. This is why we are doing our best to try to differentiate the usage philosophies. The Pack Stove is really best suited for 1 to 2 people, on the trail or out canoeing for the day and only needing/doing light cooking and/or water boiling for meals. The burn chamber on the Pack Stove, though ample for the stove’s footprint, is just not big enough to hold the big fuel needed to sustain a long, tempered burn and amass a thick coal base. Perhaps touting another stove is a horrible sales tactic, however, we always strive for absolute transparency and want to let people know our design intent and honest thoughts. Be Well!!
STG, thanks for your honesty and integrity. Seldom found in business today. As I said, your stove is very cool. I love the innovation. If I didn’t have three firebox stove with 4 Trangia, and 1 Evernew burner, a pocket rocket and primus butane stove I’d be all over this. I love the way you built it around a Stanley cook pot...great idea! I’m more of a car, raft camper and most of my setups are based on that. Last winter I literately spent well over $1500 putting together car camp cooking boxes, a legit bugout bag as well as a day hike bag. If my day hike bag was not set up I’d be all over this. Keep up the great work.
Keeping twig stoves this size going is a constant chore and a lot of effort I find. Firebox stove is a much better size as you can put decent size wood in it.
When you first put the Stanley pot on the stove I thought...ut oh...not enough ventilation at the top of the stove where the pot bottom is...will smoke like crazy and depress flames. Your camera angles really didn't show much smoke (you did say wet condition). I modified my Emberlit stove w/ drilled holes at the top which worked wonders. I wonder how this stove would work with pots other than the Stanley used in the vid. Make a nice follow-up vid. Thanks Ernie!
Excellent point! We did our best to include built in exhaust ports to combat this problem, however, going from an open, unrestricted vent, to one somewhat impeded by a pan or pot will still result in some dampening. This effect does benefit our stove somewhat bin that it slows the consumption of fuel and prolongs the burn. However, with all transparency, with bigger vessels, there is some banking of the smoke. Thank you so much for the great comment!
@@simpletheorygear I have that Stanley pot and love it. There are millions out there so to design a stove around it makes sense. The ability to use wood, alcohol or solid fuel tabs really does make this a viable piece of gear. However, cooking is a large part of these stoves, not just boiling water, so to see a pan of bacon and eggs on it (which is very prevalent on TH-cam vids would still be important I feel for the masses to see. Extra smoke would in no way be a purchase killer as long as it wasn't extreme and the flames greatly retarded or extinguished. I appreciate your transparency and comments.
We greatly appreciate that input and will definitely work on getting some more footage of cooking slightly bigger meals. If you’re interested, and also have not seen it yet, Wingman 115 did an excellent early review of the stove on his TH-cam channel where he cooked an entire breakfast. A little bigger than we ever planned for the stove to handle, but it turned out really well. Thank you again for the wonderful feedback!
I love twig stoves. Loooove 'em. But my main issue is when they feel 'too open', and embers can get away ever if theres just a little wind. Also scortching the ground. But mainly embers and whatnot. Hence I STILL stick to my Solo Stove. Also the burn heat and efficiency of the Solo Stove design is a win for me, leaving next to nothing left in the box. Now, if that stove and this one had a baby, oh man! Noe we're talking!
I tried to get one of the 'F2S' stoves from the Kickstarter campaign but it failed, may have to pick one up now since I am a fellow stove-a-holic. I have to ask you, what makes this a 'Game Changing Wood Stove'? The Firebox Stove is my go to stove to compare all others too, I do not see this beating the Firebox (but I'll still get one anyway). Thanks for sharing Ernie. And don't worry, people think I'm a weirdo too when I'm out playing with stoves and filming myself...talking to myself, lol. - Mark
Good Evening, We hope this finds you well. To begin, thank you so much for supporting our Kickstarter efforts. Sadly, as you are aware, it did not end the way we had wished. Per your comment, we actually agree to a great extent. The Firebox is a tremendous stove, especially the Gen 2 5”. If you are doing some solid camp cooking for multiple people, you would be hard pressed to find a better option. That is really why we have done our best to try to differentiate the usage philosophies. The Pack Stove is best suited for 1 to 2 people, on the trail, needing only light cooking and/or water boiling for meals. The design, or more correctly the burn chamber, is just not big enough to hold the big fuel needed to sustain a long, tempered burn and thick coal base. We do hope that makes sense. We just want to be absolutely transparent and let people know our design intent and honest thoughts. Be well!
Makes good sense, and thank you for responding to my comment. Your stove definitely fits that purpose and I do like how it packs with the Stanley.(could there ever be a lighter Titanium version?) I already have a Hidden Woodsman pot bag just asking for this stove and Stanley setup. Thanks again and you will be hearing from me shortly. - Mark
Good Morning Mark, Thank you again for the inquiry. Sadly, at this time with funding everything ourselves, titanium is still a little out of our price range. We would love to offer that option, and do plan to in the future, but all of that unfortunately depends I on interest and financial allowance.
I know there's something nostalgic about naturally aspirated fires but fan powered stoves are way more efficient burners. No blowing, no smoke, cleaner pots. I'm not sold on Firefox. Maybe these should have a more smooth air flow; with a intake and exhaust type system.
Nice Stove, good for a small situation like a water boil, tho the sack does need a round bottom that comes up the sides of stove height... those crappy sacks with all the holes and threads coming off are ineffective at protecting anything !
The Jetboil is an awesome stove! I was fortunate to use one on a canoe trip a few years ago and was truly amazed by how well it worked. Great option for sure.
I have a very similar setup but I love the coffee maker. My stove is one of the square ones that disassembles flat. 14 dollars. Hard to compete with the Chinese on most things. That being said I like your stove and thought I had seen them all. When I hiked the AT I saw many a hiker experimenting making stoves. They say there is an ass for every seat and if you can make money more power to ya. Post grip- I see MD In your "name" and made me think of something. There was a guy on the trail that put Dr. in front of everyones trail name. It worked with most of the names out there.
Good Morning Daniel, I think Ernie would provide a much better perspective and overview based on his level of experience with trangia stoves, however, if you’re interested, we just launched a little informational video on our Facebook and TH-cam channels showcasing alcohol burners and the Pack Stove. We hope it helps answer some questions. Thank you!
Very cool that more people are trying to design the perfect stove but for me, the firebox stove is still the most versatile. To each their own. We're all gear-heads, let us know what's out there!
For the price id just get a firebox stove its only slightly more but way more versatile and pack able. That is still not a bad stove but for me I dont think it has anything over whats already out or I currently have.
would be ultimate if it had a priming pan for using alcohol stove in winter. and a way to keep stove up off the ground like feet on the priming pan. ultimate I tells ya! an optional priming pan that is stored same place as the grill piece
Its a nice design, I just think it's too heavy for what it is. It's not thst much different then my evernew TI stove about the same cost, but is 1.9oz, vs over 11oz. Would be interested in seeing if over time they come out with a lighter version.
Hello i passed by this video and this stove is a beauty. But i cannot find the stove or the company? Are they still existing? Thanks in advance. BR Thomas
You know what it has been quite a few years since I did a lot of camping and backpacking and it is like I have been asleep for decades and now I wake up to discover that 90% of people are so brainwashed by technology. They cannot even go camping with out all of the trappings of 21st century tech even right down to how they cook their food. They cannot even stand not being able to use their laptops, cell phones and tablets so they lug these with them along with solar panels to keep the batteries charged and then then all rush out to buy a fancy camp stove that also has to be lugged around, this is fine if you drive to every where you go and then call this camping but is not too bright if you are back packing unless you have a pack mule. Back in the day when I was back packing all I carried was a surplus WW2 mess kit a WW2 canteen with the cup that that the canteen fit into, these served as your cooking pots and frying pans etc, along with these a good hunting knife with a sheath and a shovel that folded and a hatchet. For cooking all I did was to dig a shallow trench that lined up with the direction of the wind and the width of the trench was smaller than the smallest pot and gradually got wider for the larger pans you may have. I was going to use that way you did not need a grate to set the pot on you just set the pot down an the outer edges straddled the trench. You build a fire in the trench and let it burn down to a bed of embers and you feed the fire with new fuel at the up wind end of the trench, If the fire was a little too hot all you had to do was to spread the embers out along the length of the trench so the hot embers were not as close to the bottom of your pot. By having a trench with a little practice you are able to regulate the cooking temperature just like the dial on an electric cook top. Oh and here is another long forgotten trick, how many of you struggle to clean the soot deposits from the sides and bottoms of your expensive pots and frying pans? when cooking on an open fire here is what you do. To minimize soot build up wait until the fire burns down to a bed of hot coals without a lot of flames, but also take a bar of soap and rub it like wax on the bottom and sides of your pots until it is coated with a thin layer of soap. Any soot build up will be on the soap and not on the metal of the pot and is easily wiped off when cleaning the pot after its use.
Many people ask that, and I think it is an individual decision. My opinion is obvious because I use aluminum without issue, but that is my decision. We put things in our bodies every day. If you eat anything processed, out of a box, fast food, etc...is it a health issue? People love to focus on aluminum as they cook up boxed meals with 57 ingredients in their stainless steel cookware. Come on man ;)
Good Evening, Regrettably, due to cost, we are not on Amazon. Our products are currently only available via our website: www.simpletheorygear.com Be Well!
Good Evening Ernie,
We truly hope this comment finds you well. As we stated on IG, we sincerely appreciate your wonderful support and amazing encouragement with regards to our Pack Stove. It has been a long and arduous process, however, receiving such tremendous feedback from people like you make it all worth it. Your video review is top notch and hits upon so many excellent points. Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video and helping us spread the word. Per your critique on the bags, which we find to be spot on, we are moving forward with a different option. Your honesty and input is much appreciated. Finally, I used the “paleo” method of starting the stove today and it worked brilliantly... footage coming soon.
Being obsessed with kits that nest together well, this gets a big thumbs up.
Hi from across the pond. This one really does take the time honoured hobo stove to a whole new level. Whoever designed this should take a bow.
How is this a game changer? Because of that small pot stand that holds the Stanley Cook Cup beautifully! Those of us who love the Stanley know the limits of finding a stove with a small enough inner circumference to prevent it from sinking through while being large enough in the outer circumference to make the tall Stanley stable and safe from spills. This new little stove does All That. Showed this vid to hubby and he loves it too. It's a huge "GOTTA GET ONE" for us!
FINALLY THE STANLEY CUP HAS A SOLID MATE!
💯🎯👍❤
Ok... first off I just add you to my list of subscriptions. #2 WoW!! To that stove!! I bet more than half of the outdoors community owns that Stanly cook-cup but they don’t carry it cu’z the only good way of using it was over an open fire. This little stove is a game changer. Although $44 isn’t a bad price for a early production run I really hope the price comes down in the near future. I’m a older retired guy & have a limited income so it’s still a little steep for me, but I must have one of these elegantly simple wonders before I die!! I hope this little company takes the outdoors world by storm!!
Roger that, Mr. Nichols. Price does matter. I'm 71, and havta sometimes decide whether to buy something to eat, or a camp stove to cook it on. Have a great year, and see ya on the Trail!
Based on your review, and watching this video multiple times, I bought one of these stoves. I’m very happy with it.
You are right, the fire can get super hot and blow through the wood, but water heats up quickly. It’s a good problem to have. Even wet wood will burn hot, once the stove gets going.
Thanks for introducing this stove to me.
Cool little stove. Glad that somebody finally figured a way to use that Stanley on a little stove. The tapered bottom on the Stanley makes it hard to fit most stoves out there. Good job Ernie!!!! looking forward to the next video
You understand.👍. It's not so much about the stove as it is about "the fit" for the "Stanley Green Cup" fans out there. 🎯💯❤
Seems since it took this long for Stanley to good a decent working option that Stanley would have took the time to alter the cup for existing options. Don't get me wrong I have a rediculous amount of Stanley gear for camping and life in general, I love their products. I would gladly buy a redesign 2.0 to use more easily with my gasifier pack stove. Would probably be more stable on my svea 123r as well. I do know they taper that corner though for ease of cleaning. The other large pots are the same way.
I have the new pack stove XL. Absolutely loving it. A real quality stove from a great designer.
I’m still fan of firebox stoves. Small company the guy makes cool videos on how versatile it is and how it works in many fuels and situations and styles of cooking.
Plus you can put something under either the original or nano to start a fire like Ernie did here so moot feature
I like the Firebox Nano as well. Because it folds flat I can pack it anywhere, including a small fanny pack for a short hike. It also fits in the pocket of the Pathfinder water bottle carrier for my 32 oz stainless bottle. My alcohol stove, small 3 oz bottle of alcohol and GSI cup and I am set to purify water or make a quick bite in a matter of minutes even in inclement weather.
"Some kind of weirdo" is relative when you're in the woods talking to a camera by yourself about a tiny stove when you probably have a working one a home 🙂 Beautiful stove thanks for sharing!
That is a nicely designed stove ! Not for the lightweight or ultralight category but a dependable, versatile stove ! The Stanely pot was my first decent, small pot I bought , probably 15 years ago and it's still a good reliable pot.
Thanks Ernie. Just ordered one last week. Great review as always and keep up the great work.
I have a Ikea cutlery wood stove, costs 5 dollars and works like a charm.
Enjoyed the video and ordered the stove to go with my Stanley Pot because I like supporting small business too. Supporter of Firebox stoves with their innovative designs too.
What a great stove. The fact it pairs well with the Stanley is also very exciting.
Thank you!
I really like small stoves and I like ones that can use different fuels. I like the look and simplicity of that stove and I may have to get one soon to add to my small stove collection.
Very cool kit and good review. Thanks doc.
I JUST WENT TO THEIR WEBSITE...PURCHASED ONE!! THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
Kind of like a magic trick, whaaaa!
Great video Ernie! I appreciate the cool shout out man. Great info, I’m really glad you’re enjoying this stove..Dude.. the coffee rocket fits perfect! Nice find.
Really the the idea of this stove ! I have that cook set and it is one of my favorites so this will be a nice addition to my gear. Thank you for the great video and for introducing this stove. I purchased one. Can’t wait to try it :)
Thank you so very much!! We are actually packing up your stove box today and will have it out to you in short order. We greatly appreciate your support and truly hope you enjoy the stove!
Thank you ! Really looking forward to it!
@@simpletheorygear do you have a Canadian seller?
@@jimcarlson6157 Hello Jim, I apologize for the not responding sooner. Unfortunately, several months ago we made the hard decision to close down our business. Therefore, we no longer have any products available. I apologize for the inconvenience.
Be well-
Mac
LIKE THIS STOVE !! VERY FUNCTIONAL AND SMALL SIZE GIVES OPTIONS FOR HEAT SOURCES !!
YES ... MANY STOVES ON THE MARKET !!!
LOVE THE MADE IN THE USA BY FAMILY/SMALL BIZ !!!!
I am really happy with my gasifier, but if I was in the market, this design would be interesting. also looks like you could put a decent fire kit in the bottom while it is packed up. the removable top/bottom would hold a round tin in if you could find one that fit it tight.
It seems like most of these little wood stoves are designed to be multi-fuel, which is pretty neat. Although not as light or compact as my Firebox Nano 2 steel, it is cheaper and comes with everything. Even the X kit from Firebox doesn't come with the additional windscreen or solid fuel plate.
I love the Firebox Nano, for the record and it is worth the money!
Brilliant setup Ernie. Love how you nested all that together. Just need this stove and the Evernew titanium and I'd be able to match you kit. Thanks for sharing!
The first time I saw a hobo stove it really started me thinking about what else is there that is just lying around that can be adapted to survival gear. Ingenious device.
Awww...ship!!we're did that spider go👀👀..I like the design of the stove would be a sweet kit for my son and his Stanley kit👍👍
Great product review. Small packable twig stoves are very nice. I just subscribed to Shane Coffey Outdoors a couple of days ago. Take Care and Keep Exploring The Outdoors.
Neat design. It's always a good idea to seal your alcohol stove and solid fuels in a ziplock bag to prevent spillage into your eating containers.
That thing is very versatile, might have to grab one. TY Ernie.
Great review Ernie. Definitely going to pick up one of these stoves. 🔥
Ingenious and well thought out. As far as being multi fuel ( alcohol , wood and solid ) there are a couple others out there which have the same ability. I use a trick in my wood burning stoves to get a longer burning time without having to feed the fire all the time. I Loosely stack the sticks upright in the fire chamber.
2 good experiments you might like would be lighting it like you did on one test. You know it will burn but for how long ? Next one light the top of the sticks on this test. With all that ventilation it should draw in enough air from the bottom up to burn from the top down.
I use a Evernew titanium burner in my stoves as a 2nd heat source for a quick hot beverage. I pack it in a zip lock inside my cup. The zip lock is to keep any unburned alcohol or residue from the cup. Just playing it safe since Denatured alcohol has a poison in it so you can't drink it.
Looks great. I might pick one up. I’m using the Kelly kettle (love it) but heavy and large. This one looks so simple and easy to store.
A well thought out stove, and thanks for your review.
I searched your vids, and haven't found any on the SilverFire brand stoves. I have both the Scout and Survivor stoves, and love them.
Love the Wild Azela Trail and the Kisatchie National Forrest, spent many a day and night hunting in that forest.
I've been fooling around with 28 oz and larger cans to create a combination heat-retention chamber and wind-block for my Stanley. Haven't achieved what I was hoping. This looks like it does the trick with less bulk and more finesse ...
I wish it came with a brown bag for it. I would also like to see a tinder tin that fits in the bottom when storing.
I have a feeling if you can swap that center grate with the holey grate you might be able to drop your alcohol stove into it. Instead of just setting it on the ground... excellent bit of kit, like others I'm glad to see something the Stanley fits into. I think a waxed canvas bag, or oilskin bag with a round bottom.
Thanks for you idea.
Nice stove got to buy one👍
👍 good demo . I could almost smell the coffee and smoke . Im supporting . camp on .
This looks REALLY cool but not sure if it will drag me away from my firebox stoves. I have more stoves then I need right now. 😂 Thx for the great review.
More stoves than you need? LOL..DONT WE ALL!!!
😂
Good Evening,
We hope this finds you well. Thank you for the kind comments on the stove. As for your affinity for the Firebox, we 150% agree! As we stated above to another viewer, we think the Firebox is truly an exceptional stove- not to mention pioneer of the market and the Gen 2 - 5” is especially top class. If you are doing some solid camp cooking for multiple people, you would be hard pressed to find a better option. This is why we are doing our best to try to differentiate the usage philosophies. The Pack Stove is really best suited for 1 to 2 people, on the trail or out canoeing for the day and only needing/doing light cooking and/or water boiling for meals. The burn chamber on the Pack Stove, though ample for the stove’s footprint, is just not big enough to hold the big fuel needed to sustain a long, tempered burn and amass a thick coal base. Perhaps touting another stove is a horrible sales tactic, however, we always strive for absolute transparency and want to let people know our design intent and honest thoughts.
Be Well!!
STG, thanks for your honesty and integrity. Seldom found in business today. As I said, your stove is very cool. I love the innovation. If I didn’t have three firebox stove with 4 Trangia, and 1 Evernew burner, a pocket rocket and primus butane stove I’d be all over this. I love the way you built it around a Stanley cook pot...great idea! I’m more of a car, raft camper and most of my setups are based on that. Last winter I literately spent well over $1500 putting together car camp cooking boxes, a legit bugout bag as well as a day hike bag. If my day hike bag was not set up I’d be all over this. Keep up the great work.
What a great set up.
Great vid👍
Oh my gosh what a nice kit you came up with!
looks like a nice stove, i'm getting one
You'll get a lot better results from the bellows blow pipe if you crimp the far end around a nail or something to form a jet.
I like it. Good one.
I like that it fits the Stanley, but I love my Emberlit and it collapses down and fits other pans and pots. Nice design though.
Keeping twig stoves this size going is a constant chore and a lot of effort I find. Firebox stove is a much better size as you can put decent size wood in it.
Looks like a good one. Ty
When you first put the Stanley pot on the stove I thought...ut oh...not enough ventilation at the top of the stove where the pot bottom is...will smoke like crazy and depress flames. Your camera angles really didn't show much smoke (you did say wet condition). I modified my Emberlit stove w/ drilled holes at the top which worked wonders. I wonder how this stove would work with pots other than the Stanley used in the vid. Make a nice follow-up vid. Thanks Ernie!
Excellent point! We did our best to include built in exhaust ports to combat this problem, however, going from an open, unrestricted vent, to one somewhat impeded by a pan or pot will still result in some dampening. This effect does benefit our stove somewhat bin that it slows the consumption of fuel and prolongs the burn. However, with all transparency, with bigger vessels, there is some banking of the smoke. Thank you so much for the great comment!
@@simpletheorygear I have that Stanley pot and love it. There are millions out there so to design a stove around it makes sense. The ability to use wood, alcohol or solid fuel tabs really does make this a viable piece of gear. However, cooking is a large part of these stoves, not just boiling water, so to see a pan of bacon and eggs on it (which is very prevalent on TH-cam vids would still be important I feel for the masses to see. Extra smoke would in no way be a purchase killer as long as it wasn't extreme and the flames greatly retarded or extinguished. I appreciate your transparency and comments.
We greatly appreciate that input and will definitely work on getting some more footage of cooking slightly bigger meals. If you’re interested, and also have not seen it yet, Wingman 115 did an excellent early review of the stove on his TH-cam channel where he cooked an entire breakfast. A little bigger than we ever planned for the stove to handle, but it turned out really well. Thank you again for the wonderful feedback!
@@simpletheorygear Thanks! I'll check it out.
I love twig stoves. Loooove 'em. But my main issue is when they feel 'too open', and embers can get away ever if theres just a little wind. Also scortching the ground. But mainly embers and whatnot. Hence I STILL stick to my Solo Stove. Also the burn heat and efficiency of the Solo Stove design is a win for me, leaving next to nothing left in the box. Now, if that stove and this one had a baby, oh man! Noe we're talking!
Great review !
Thanks for this video; neat stove. I noticed in the video an orange ground tarp; what is that product? Thanks.
Very useful indeed.
Interesting stove and great review!
I tried to get one of the 'F2S' stoves from the Kickstarter campaign but it failed, may have to pick one up now since I am a fellow stove-a-holic. I have to ask you, what makes this a 'Game Changing Wood Stove'? The Firebox Stove is my go to stove to compare all others too, I do not see this beating the Firebox (but I'll still get one anyway). Thanks for sharing Ernie. And don't worry, people think I'm a weirdo too when I'm out playing with stoves and filming myself...talking to myself, lol. - Mark
Good Evening,
We hope this finds you well. To begin, thank you so much for supporting our Kickstarter efforts. Sadly, as you are aware, it did not end the way we had wished. Per your comment, we actually agree to a great extent. The Firebox is a tremendous stove, especially the Gen 2 5”. If you are doing some solid camp cooking for multiple people, you would be hard pressed to find a better option. That is really why we have done our best to try to differentiate the usage philosophies. The Pack Stove is best suited for 1 to 2 people, on the trail, needing only light cooking and/or water boiling for meals. The design, or more
correctly the burn chamber, is just not big enough to hold the big fuel needed to sustain a long, tempered burn and thick coal base. We do hope that makes sense. We just want to be absolutely transparent and let people know our design intent and honest thoughts.
Be well!
Makes good sense, and thank you for responding to my comment. Your stove definitely fits that purpose and I do like how it packs with the Stanley.(could there ever be a lighter Titanium version?) I already have a Hidden Woodsman pot bag just asking for this stove and Stanley setup. Thanks again and you will be hearing from me shortly. - Mark
Good Morning Mark,
Thank you again for the inquiry. Sadly, at this time with funding everything ourselves, titanium is still a little out of our price range. We would love to offer that option, and do plan to in the future, but all of that unfortunately depends I
on interest and financial allowance.
@@simpletheorygear my thoughts were making a short version without the dead space underneath so it's more compact.
I know there's something nostalgic about naturally aspirated fires but fan powered stoves are way more efficient burners. No blowing, no smoke, cleaner pots. I'm not sold on Firefox. Maybe these should have a more smooth air flow; with a intake and exhaust type system.
Nice Stove, good for a small situation like a water boil, tho the sack does need a round bottom that comes up the sides of stove height... those crappy sacks with all the holes and threads coming off are ineffective at protecting anything !
Would it be tough enough for a piece of Charcoal? Also an added bonus it probably would keep you warm.
What is the purple blue gel you use to fuel the tinder for your demonstrations?
Most people abandon the two green cup in the Stanley cook kit. I put mine in the car kit for my wife.
the gsi coffee maker is the best, but I like my jetboil, like always great video
The Jetboil is an awesome stove! I was fortunate to use one on a canoe trip a few years ago and was truly amazed by how well it worked. Great option for sure.
I have a very similar setup but I love the coffee maker. My stove is one of the square ones that disassembles flat. 14 dollars. Hard to compete with the Chinese on most things. That being said I like your stove and thought I had seen them all. When I hiked the AT I saw many a hiker experimenting making stoves. They say there is an ass for every seat and if you can make money more power to ya.
Post grip- I see MD In your "name" and made me think of something. There was a guy on the trail that put Dr. in front of everyones trail name. It worked with most of the names out there.
Awesome video and great looking stove! Do you think you could demonstrate it using a trangia?
Good Morning Daniel,
I think Ernie would provide a much better perspective and overview based on his level of experience with trangia stoves, however, if you’re interested, we just launched a little informational video on our Facebook and TH-cam channels showcasing alcohol burners and the Pack Stove. We hope it helps answer some questions. Thank you!
If you're stopping for a quick coffee, how long does it take to cool off, before you can pack it back into its bag?
Yes u r lol. I like the stove I think I'll buy one. Thanks for the post.
I wonder if this thing would fit into the GSI Soloist...!!?!!
Very cool that more people are trying to design the perfect stove but for me, the firebox stove is still the most versatile. To each their own. We're all gear-heads, let us know what's out there!
I picked one up about a week or so ago. I haven't had the chance to fire it up yet.
Well it will last longer for sure that way😜
For the price id just get a firebox stove its only slightly more but way more versatile and pack able. That is still not a bad stove but for me I dont think it has anything over whats already out or I currently have.
The thing I never understood, as poplear as the Stanley cook set is, why there is not more stoves like this made for it?!?
Ok 👌 👍. BTW my wife says to thank you for showing me a stove that I don’t have. 😁
My goto coffee int the outdoors is folgers coffee bags. tea bags with coffee......
Looks cool, but one question: Won't all that steel absorb a lot heat from an alcohol stove?
would be ultimate if it had a priming pan for using alcohol stove in winter. and a way to keep stove up off the ground like feet on the priming pan. ultimate I tells ya! an optional priming pan that is stored same place as the grill piece
Its a nice design, I just think it's too heavy for what it is. It's not thst much different then my evernew TI stove about the same cost, but is 1.9oz, vs over 11oz. Would be interested in seeing if over time they come out with a lighter version.
Another small packable well made stove is the firebox nano
What was the coffee jet?
nice thanks for sharing
Hello i passed by this video and this stove is a beauty. But i cannot find the stove or the company? Are they still existing? Thanks in advance. BR Thomas
Well, they're on sale. Im getting one.
Gotta stay with the Solostove Lite. Nests very well with 900 pot, cool bottom and gasification for low smoke and efficiency.
nice stove. I wonder if he could make it a flat stove that can be shaped into a round cylinder shape.
Very interesting review !
I just made one using khantal wire grid and handles. It has lasted 5 years now
Needs an ash catcher/base plate. It should be fairly straightforward to design one to nest.
Great feedback and duly noted! Thank you very much.
I was thinking the same thing. This wouldn’t work on snow. Your videos looks very professional btw. Thanks for that. 😊
It looks like you could make a storve like this out of a small to mediium size can without too much trouble.
Would love to see a video from you making that happen if its not too much trouble
Took forever. I can’t wait that long for a cup of coffee.
The line at Starbucks is usually longer than I waited. #cmonman
Always stir the coffee/creamer with a wood twig. Adds a woodsy feel. Buhahahaha
Now I know what’s missing :)
@@PaleoHikerMD Backwoods Barista
I like this..was thinking of a trangia 27 but this seems to make way more sense
Millions of scouts in this country made these stoves out of coffee cans as kids.
But this was made by an adult for adults "Manly Men"!🤣
👍👍🇧🇷 Parabéns
Yes, I like this stove. Twig and alcohol.
You know what it has been quite a few years since I did a lot of camping and backpacking and it is like I have been asleep for decades and now I wake up to discover that 90% of people are so brainwashed by technology. They cannot even go camping with out all of the trappings of 21st century tech even right down to how they cook their food. They cannot even stand not being able to use their laptops, cell phones and tablets so they lug these with them along with solar panels to keep the batteries charged and then then all rush out to buy a fancy camp stove that also has to be lugged around, this is fine if you drive to every where you go and then call this camping but is not too bright if you are back packing unless you have a pack mule. Back in the day when I was back packing all I carried was a surplus WW2 mess kit a WW2 canteen with the cup that that the canteen fit into, these served as your cooking pots and frying pans etc, along with these a good hunting knife with a sheath and a shovel that folded and a hatchet. For cooking all I did was to dig a shallow trench that lined up with the direction of the wind and the width of the trench was smaller than the smallest pot and gradually got wider for the larger pans you may have. I was going to use that way you did not need a grate to set the pot on you just set the pot down an the outer edges straddled the trench. You build a fire in the trench and let it burn down to a bed of embers and you feed the fire with new fuel at the up wind end of the trench, If the fire was a little too hot all you had to do was to spread the embers out along the length of the trench so the hot embers were not as close to the bottom of your pot. By having a trench with a little practice you are able to regulate the cooking temperature just like the dial on an electric cook top. Oh and here is another long forgotten trick, how many of you struggle to clean the soot deposits from the sides and bottoms of your expensive pots and frying pans? when cooking on an open fire here is what you do. To minimize soot build up wait until the fire burns down to a bed of hot coals without a lot of flames, but also take a bar of soap and rub it like wax on the bottom and sides of your pots until it is coated with a thin layer of soap. Any soot build up will be on the soap and not on the metal of the pot and is easily wiped off when cleaning the pot after its use.
The Stanley Kit is Stainless, right? How do you feel about aluminum kit, like the Yugoslavian Mess Kit or the German kidney-shaped Kit?
I’ve always wanted to get one of these, but never have. They are very popular though.
PaleoHikerMD Is the aluminum a health issue?
Many people ask that, and I think it is an individual decision. My opinion is obvious because I use aluminum without issue, but that is my decision. We put things in our bodies every day. If you eat anything processed, out of a box, fast food, etc...is it a health issue? People love to focus on aluminum as they cook up boxed meals with 57 ingredients in their stainless steel cookware. Come on man ;)
@@PaleoHikerMD Great answer, thanks! (I guess I haven't watched enough of you cook kit videos ... 😉)
Is it on Amazon?
Good Evening,
Regrettably, due to cost, we are not on Amazon. Our products are currently only available via our website: www.simpletheorygear.com Be Well!
Looks like the website for this stove is no longer active.
I was stealth camping before it became a " thing "
The link seems to be missing in the description, I found this: www.simpletheorygear.com, then click on the pack stove.
It was missing! I fixed that
PaleoHikerMD can you make it clickable? I'll delete my comments then ..