The Battle of Noryang (Imjin War): Japanese vs Ming Fleet - 2nd Phase of Battle (Noryang, 2023)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Second part of naval battle scene from the Korean movie Noryang: Deadly Sea, 2023 - directed by Han-min Kim.
(with english subtitles)
The Battle of Noryang, the last major battle of the Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598), was fought between the Japanese navy and the combined fleets of the Joseon Kingdom and the Ming dynasty. It took place in the early morning of 16 December (19 November in the Lunar calendar) 1598 and ended past dawn.
On 15 December, a huge Japanese fleet was amassed in Sach'on Bay, on the east end of the Noryang Strait. Shimazu was not sure whether the allied fleet was continuing the blockade of Konishi's wajō, on its way to attack an abandoned wajō further east, or blocking their way on the western end of Noryang Strait. Yi, meanwhile, knew exactly where Shimazu was after receiving reports from scouts and local fishermen.
The Joseon fleet consisted of 82 panokseon multi-decked oared ships. The Ming fleet consisted of six large war junks (true battle vessels most likely used as flagships) that were driven by both oars and sails, 57 lighter war ships driven by oars alone (most likely transports converted for battle use), and two panokseon provided by Yi. In terms of manpower, the allied fleet had 8,000 sailors and marines under Yi, 5,000 Ming men of the Guangdong Squadron, and 2,600 Ming marines who fought aboard Korean ships, a total of almost 16,000 sailors and fighting men. The Ming fleet was divided into two squadrons, the larger of which was commanded by Chen and the smaller by Deng Zilong. The allied fleet was well-equipped with cannon, mortars, archers, and arquebusiers. The Japanese had 500 ships, but a significant part of their fleet consisted of light transports. The Japanese ships were well-armed with arquebuses and also had some captured Joseon cannon. The allied fleet was outnumbered, but made up for it with ships which, on average, had superior firepower and heavier, more sturdy construction.
The allied fleet waited for Shimazu on the west end of Noryang Strait. The battle began around 02:00 am on 16 December. It was, from the very beginning, a desperate affair with the Japanese determined to fight through the allied fleet and the allies equally determined to keep them from breaking through and advancing.
As in Yi's previous battles, the Japanese were unable to respond effectively as the Korean and Chinese cannon prevented them from moving. When the Japanese fleet was significantly damaged, Chen ordered his fleet to engage in melee combat. This allowed the Japanese to use their arquebuses and fight using their traditional fighting style of boarding enemy ships. When Chen's flagship was attacked, Yi had to order his fleet to engage in hand-to-hand combat as well.[citation needed]
Song Hui-rip, the captain of Yi's flagship, was struck in the helmet by an arquebus ball and fell unconscious for a time. The vessels got so close that Joseon ships were able to throw burning wood onto the decks of Japanese ships.
Heavy Japanese arquebus fire forced the Chinese sailors to keep their heads low, while the Japanese closed in. Several parties boarded Chen's flagship and in the hand-to-hand fighting that ensued, Chen's son was injured parrying a sword thrust directed at his father. Seeing Chen's ship in trouble, the Ming left wing commander Deng Zilong and two hundred of his personal guard transferred to a Joseon panokseon (one of two given to the Ming fleet by Yi) and rowed to his aid. Several Ming ships, mistaking the panokseon for a Japanese ship, opened fire and disabled it. The stricken panokseon drifted towards the Japanese and they boarded and killed everyone on board, including Deng.
By the middle of the battle, as dawn was about to break, the allied fleet had the upper hand and half of Shimazu's fleet was either sunk or captured. It was said that Yoshihiro's flagship was sunk and that he was clinging to a piece of wood in the icy water. Japanese ships came to his rescue, pulling him to safety. During the course of the battle, the ships fought from the west end of the strait all the way across to the east end, almost to the open water. The Japanese sustained heavy damage and began to retreat along the south coast of Namhae Island, towards Pusan.
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This is second part of naval battle scene from the Korean movie Noryang: Deadly Sea, 2023 - directed by Han-min Kim.
First part here:
th-cam.com/video/sxKc8YV4d0k/w-d-xo.html&t
Historical note as always in video description.
Please keep discussions civil.
Remember this is a movie, not a historical documentary.
Enjoy.
This is awesome and lot of comments as well!
in my country i can't watch this, so thank you for uploading this.
@@chesneyvanneste6811 even my country as well
this Movie is not available because of Japanese Company Blocking any "Anti-Japanese" (Koreans&Chinese) Movie
@@PerryKobalt Like Oppenheimer(2023)?
@@junpark8078 yeah even that
Answers to FAQ
Q1) "Who's who?"
A: Japanese: Triangular Metal Cap or Fancy Gundam horn helmet + Breastplate armor
Koreans: Pointy helmet with loppy ear + Dark Brigandine, and commanders wearing scale armor
Chinese: Round helmet or small-winged helmet for commanders with blue and brown brigandine for soldiers, and commanders wearing scale armors
Q2-1) "Why are ships self-propelling? Where is sails? Does the ships run by engines?"
A: Oars. The ships are galley types, and sails were stored into the ship during the battle. We can't see the oars because they are vertically underneath the ship
Q2-2) "Oar can't be that fast, you dumbf---"
A: For the entertainment purpose, director of the movie edited the speed by doubling it during the ship movement scene to add the dynamics in the movies after the filming. It's not documentary after all.
Q3) "What's the title?"
A: Noryang: Deadly Sea
Q4) "Where can I see this?"
A: Now that, I cannot answer. Go check your Netflix, or other OTT.
I hope this FAQ section was helpful to you all.
bro. hats off.
@@junpark8078 i don't think its on netflix but don't quote me on that.
This film is dedicated to one of the most famous admirals in history, admiral Yi, who fended off 2 Japanese invasions practically on his own. He invented the concept of the turtle ship. His most famous battle is where he was outnumbered between 10:1 to 20:1 and came out victorious without a single ship lost.
Dude better than yellow pages
2-2의 지적이 좋다
영화는 다큐멘터리가 될 수 없다
많은 사람들이 그걸 헷갈려한다
고증을 논하려면 HISTORY, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC을 봐야한다
Admiral yi life is like something out of an epic fiction novel. Start with a humble beginning, struggle, rise up, fall from grace, rise up again then a demise worthy of legend. What a man
"Yi" = Number 1 in Chinese
Cause it's actually fiction. At the battle of Noryang, Korean navy was only 30 ship strong, and Ming provided the bulwark of most of the ships used in the battle. Not to mention the land force of 100k Ming provided to attack the invading Japanese from the north. Turtle ships were good but not that good to win against the Japanese when they were outnumbered 10-20 to 1.
04:16 🇰🇷Korea (vs) 🇯🇵Japan
@@alfredneuman6488Yi Sun-sin 李舜臣. His name is also famous in China. i knew his story since I was 8 yo
@@HEEHEEBOII at the battle of myeongnyang he show what he's capable of. Heavily outnumbered, no turtleship, no allies, incorporating surrounding and terrain feature as part of the strategy, no ship lost. This man makes a genius like Horatio Nelson pale in comparison.
Anyone who played Age of Empire 2 would know yi shun shins campaign
Ah, those dam Cannon Galleon
This was the largest naval battle the world had ever seen at the time involving many hundreds of Korean, Japanese, and Chinese warships. The world would not see such a huge naval operation again for many hundreds of years until the D Day Landing of the WW2.
D-day wasnt a naval battle... it was a naval landing, the germans had zero ships in the channel
@@ityrmaybe midway was great naval battle with Guadalcanal campaign in Solomon island
In terms of sailors, the Holy League had just recently won the Battle of Lepanto in 1572 which had ~490 ships in total and over 60 000 sailors on each side. (Both sides of the conflict agree on this), making it a larger battle. This was the last major engagement of galleys before the age of sail took over.
In terms of the number of hulls, this was larger by far, since the Japanese had some 500 ships by themselves. So it depends on how you view it.
@@HrHaakon Battle of Bach Dang River, 1288. Yuan forces numbering ~100.000 men and ~500 ships. Vietnamese forces with ~50.000 men and an unknown number of war boats and junks.
元軍の日本侵攻は14000隻以上だからこれが最大の海戦ではない
3カ国全てが魅力的に描かれており非常に良いですね！
감사합니다 ^^
@@영빈-j8c 中国这边有个说法是帮助高丽抵抗日本让本来就没钱的大明政府更加没钱了。然后大明就被灭国了
日本、明、朝鮮、それぞれが自国の言語のセリフなのがすごいです！
迫力もあるし全部観てみたい！
三国ともできるだけ素敵に出るよう監督が演出しました。
那时候其实都挂的是中文旗子
@@user-rh2gd7mq8pThe way it should be. It is realistic. They are all fighting for their countries.
In this movie, Is the pronunciation and accent of three languages good?
@@sjeoendiowksbsjsel in this part of video is normal, but if you watched the full movie,need to say that in chinese part sometimes need reed the subtitles, but it`s enough for a KR movie
Admiral Yi Sun-sin said, "Japan is so cunning that I have never heard of them keeping their trust."
This statement was correct.
Japan attacked Pearl Harbor without declaring war and killed innocent people.
押忍🥋
And the fact that some weebs still think japanese empire was a country of 'honor'.. it disgusts me actually haha..
Show me an "honorable" east Asian country.
Korea and China aren't exactly famous for it. I'm all for calling out Japan, just not like naive a$$hole. Declaring war is a 100% optional thing to do, and it is generally considered dumb when fighting more powerful enemies.
Yi Sun-sin is just big propagand Korea... Yi SUN-SIN has sunk 31 Japanese ships, Japan has 700 ships, 700-31=669.... Japanese still have 669 warships
Considering that that's how they defeated the Russians in the Russo-Japanese War, I can understand their reasoning to do their sneak attacks.
Although the director of this movie certainly made a lot of efforts researching the armor and equipment of the Korean and Japanese sides, I feel that the Ming side has been neglected. Of course the Ming armor and equipment shown in this movie aren't totally inaccurate, but compared to what has been shown for the Korean and Japanese sides, they do seem to be somewhat lackluster. Here're the main issues regarding Ming equipment and naval tactics that I'm able to observe in this clip:
1. The complete lack of spears. Ming records and military treatises valued spears highly, considering them not only suitable against cavalry on land but also useful in naval engagements, and period depictions of Ming soldiers often showed them carrying long spears and some other polearms like glaives and halberds. However in this movie they are all missing (except general Deng Zilong using a glaive).
2. Ming naval tactics, just like the Japanese, preferred close-quarter combat and boarding rather than staying away and firing cannons. Hence the Ming navy shouldn't be afraid of closing in, unlike what is shown here.
3. Three-barrel pole guns were cavalry and siege defense weapons used most commonly by frontier troops of Northern China, whereas admiral Chen Lin and his marines were mostly from Southern China, hence they shouldn't use those type of guns. Nothing from Ming records indicated that three-barrel pole guns were used in naval battles. On the other hand, it's logical to depict Southern Chinese troops using at least some arquebuses, due to their trade and wars with the Portuguese and the Wokou.
4. The complete lack of rocket arrows and other incendiary weapons. The Ming navy used rocket arrows and various types incendiary grenades and bombs such as the fire bucket and the fire brick, as well as fire lances that spewed out flame and noxious smoke. All those were used for naval warfare, yet none has been shown in the movie.
5. The complete lack of javelins and crossbows. Ming troops especially the ones from Southern China also used javelins and crossbows in naval warfare, according to Ming military manual WuBeiZhi they even had javelins that were specifically designed to puncture through ship deck, barbed javelins for anti-personnel purposes, and javelins attached with gunpowder tubes that could be used in a similar way as a primitive grenade.
6. Too many brigandine armor. While it's true that Ming armies particularly those stationed in the north used a lot of brigandine armors, Ming marines used other types of armor as well such as paper armors, leather armors, and sometimes even rattan armor.
7. According to Ming records, in the battle of Noryang general Deng Zilong charged in the front and was the first to engage with the Japanese but soon got his ship surrounded, then Yi Sunshin joined in an effort to save Deng Zilong, and finally Chen Lin joined trying to save both. The sequence presented here doesn't seem to correspond with the record.
Informations from Chinese perspective are rare (for me at least), and these are very fruitful. Thank you.
They made the Ming forces look like side characters and NPCs, the Chinese were known to be good with swords so I was wondering why they didn't engage with sword and shield combo, most of the forces were from southern China as well and I haven't spotted anyone using guns, I do admit that the Chinese underestimated the Japanese at sea resulting in a somewhat poor performance although their performance in the land wars was truly great.
This comment is underrated. Thank you for providing the Ming perspective. It is somewhat understandable that in a Korean film on Yi Sun Sin, the Chinese would be portrayed less favourably
This is a Korean movie, so of course the role of the Korean army must be highlighted. However, describing the Ming army as weak and the role of the Joseon army surpassing that of the Ming army is contrary to historical facts.
@@snowlee-ml7rr I agree. Unfortunately, in such nationalist films masquerading as historical ones, historical facts are meant to be distorted to fit the narrative rather than vice versa
The Korean Peninsula, like Poland in Europe, has always been a gladiatorial arena for the surrounding powers.
Koreans are stronger than poland
@@elgrandosmokio1247 いやポーランドと韓国を比較するのはポーランドに失礼かもしれない。韓国の歴史的な競争相手はアフリカだろう。19世紀末の日中韓の写真が残っているが日本と中国は華やかな一方、原始的な生活をしている国が一つあることが確認できます。
@@elgrandosmokio1247 lmao clown, poland singlehandedly broke the ottoman advancement and sent them back to their lands
@@ImBijin true, koreans are peasants, even today. super backward for an economically developed country. i just feel sad that chinese history and culture has been erased by the chinese communist party.
@@ImBijin Please speak English. However, Japan did not have sense of presence in Asia before the Meiji Restoration. A divided island nation ruled by the shogunate. The whole archipelago was full of poverty and ignorance. Agriculture is also limited in scale and plagued by natural disasters. Korea is at least a unified and complete Confucian feudal state. If it weren't for Perry and his fleet that brought civilization to Japan. The archipelago is also likely to become the India of East Asia in the late 19th century.🤔🤔🤔
If this was directed by the West, every one would be speaking perfect English
Yes, it would be a shock if a western production made an adaptation in English for western audiences to follow with ease
No shit. Would you expect a Korean production to make a movie in english? no? Then why would you expect something made by English speakers to be in Korean?
It's understandable that American shows would use English...but it's so jarring to see "Germans" and "Japanese" speak gibberish foreign language and then switch right back to English or speak in an outrageous accent. Seeing an Irish actor try to speak German in "Man in the High Castle" as Adolf Eichmann was too painful. I'd prefer if they just stuck to english like in "Death of Stalin", or commit fully to the language like "Shogun".
I mean...most of the West speaks English so what is the point of this comment?
@@CirilloRuca i dunno honestly. I think hes trying to insult the west in some way
For anyone wondering "Is my hearing bad, or Ming characters' chinese dialogues sound a bit...... off?", no, your hearing is on point.
Apparently, every lines from the Ming dynasty characters in this movie is in fact written in Early Modern Chinese (근고한어, 近古漢語) - which is what Chinese language was, according to what I've searched, about from year 1100 to 1900. Battle of Noryang occured in year 1598, so their Chinese pronunciation is actually historically correct.
It sounds weird because Korean actors were playing the role.
Maybe, but there is still a heavy Korean accent mixed in there. I cannot understand the majority of Chinese lines even after listening to them multiple times.
@@JohnnyZX81 bro reread what the original comment said, they're literally not supposed to be understandable or comparable to modern simplified chinese
@@JM-hl9id simplified Chinese is a written form of Chinese, the standard spoken form is called Mandarin. I think you meant that. But still, it is comparable, like Middle English to Modern English
@@JohnnyZX81 no... no english speaker today can actually comprehend middle english and the accents are completely off. Thanks for the correction though, I am still dumb
I’m so touched of how this channel gives props and respectful words to our sacred hero Yi Sun Shin.
So I was checking this channel and find out about other cool fantasy projects he is working on.
Would be cheering for you.
Yi sun sin only sunk 31 ships, Japanese navy still have 669 ships, Japanese still have 300k land troops, in the war between Ming and Japan, Yi sun sin is not an important character
@@alexhu5491 Looking at your comments, you are a typical Japanese 😂
@@alexhu5491 하긴 한 번도 못 이겨서 ptsd가 심하긴하겠다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@alexhu5491 네네 그렇군요 네네 알겠습니다 하하하하하하하하하하하
The Imjin War (known as the Imjin Waeran in Korean) was the largest war of its time on the global stage. Although many world histories tend to downplay its significance due to a Western-centric perspective, this war had profound effects: it paved the way for the rise of the Qing Dynasty in China, the establishment of the Edo Shogunate in Japan, and the increasing influence of European East India Companies.
qing dynasty = Jurchen people
清朝不是中国
@@user_royisnjsosnkorean ：real mongol son and grand -son
If Won Gyun had not annihilated the Joseon Navy in the Battle of Chilcheonryang, the Japanese army would never have returned from Noryang alive.
@@donkita1692 bro you gonna spam this comment in the entire comments section?
Joseon = Korea
ええ、李舜臣を罪に落とし元均を用いた当時の朝鮮王国の愚劣さのおかげでここに出ている日本の大名たちは誰一人戦死する事なく日本に帰る事ができました。ついでに名将李舜臣を討ち取る戦果まで引っ提げて。
@@hayanlatitude9141 조선과 한국은 엄연히 다름 메이지 유신 이전의 일본과 지금의 일본이 같다는 소리와 같은 거임
Yi Sun Shin the giga chad of the sea
I saw this movie when it came out in my country (New Zealand). It was fantastic.
Props to the actors for speaking different languages(Altough,Not in a good accent) Despite most of them were probably koreans.Western movies would have all of them speaking a perfect english no matter where they came from....
Because the audience is Western, English speakers. Similar to Marvel movies being dubbed overseas and so that their audience can understand them. So this take is actually ridiculous to even mention.
As a Korean that can speak Korean and also some Japanese, their accents were spot on. I can not speak Chinese but they sound pretty good for Korean actors.
Yi Sun-sin is a great general who can be counted among the hundreds and thousands of great generals of Korea. He defeated numerous Japanese forces in 23 small and large-scale battles because at that time, Japan attacked Korea and killed many people.
别吹什么李舜臣了，局部的小胜利无法扭转朝鲜军队在整个战争上的弱势地位，从来没见过哪一方在没有陆军的情况下，靠残余的一点海军能翻盘获胜，反攻夺回陆地，决定性的力量还是陆军。
その英雄を時の朝鮮王国はどのように扱ったか？あの状況で最善を尽くした名将を罪を着せて白衣従軍させるとは。
最後の李舜臣の戦死も日本軍の大名に来島を除き戦死者なく大陸から引き上げる事が出来たのも、一重に当時の朝鮮王国指導部の愚劣さのおかげ。
이 영화 좋았던 점이 명군과 일본군의 전투장면 넣어준 거였음. 보통 이런거 보기 쉽지 않음.. 한국에선 명군의 역할이 과소평가되는 면이 커서 더 귀한 장면임.
정유재란 당시 조선군 10만
명군 3만(파병 초기 숫자 그대로)
왜군 15만
벽제관 전투에서 대패한 이후 이여송이 일본군과의 대규모 전투를 피하며 후방의 사령관 진지에만 박혀있어서 딱히 1593년 1월 평양성 전투 승리와 벽제관전투 대패이후 딱히 크게 치룬 전투가 없어서 과소평가가 아니라 그냥 정상적인 평가입니다
@@user-nv7nx1my9t 4차 평양성 전투에 참가한 명군이 4만에 조선군이 1만이고 전쟁 말기 울산성 전투에 참가한 명군이 3만에서 4만이고 조선군이 1만명입니다. 단순히 숫자로만 봐도 명군이 이 전쟁에서 끼친 영향은 매우 큰데요? 좋고 싫고를 떠나 역사는 팩트로 봐야죠
@@user-nv7nx1my9t 사리든 안사리든 명군없었으면 이미 전쟁에서 패했을텐데 남의 나라 군대에 도움빌려놓고 소극적이다 욕하는것부터가 웃긴거임 ㅋㅋ
@@user-nv7nx1my9t솔직히 좀만 생각해봐도 파견안왔으면 대참사였음. 저당시 인구랑 지금 인구랑 동일시하면 안되고 머릿수 이런것도 중요하지만 저 큰 나라에서 파견왔다는거 자체가 당시 일본한테 엄청난 부담을 줬을꺼임. 이게 절대 창피한게 아니고 조선도 정말 대단한건데 자꾸 명나라가한건 아무것도 없다 이렇게 결론이 나는게 아쉬움. 호감도랑 별개로 역사를 볼때는 감정을 떼고 봐야지
당시 세계관으로는 거의 미군 참전한거인데, 그게 왜 대단치않냐
After the Battle of Noryang, the sea off Noryang was completely covered with the bodies of dead Japanese soldiers, and the entire sea was red with the blood of Japanese soldiers for 10 days. The defeat in this battle plunged Japan into a fierce civil war and led to the fall of the Toyotomi regime. For reference, Noryang means angry waves and is also the name of a small port on the southern coast of Korea.
There weren't Daimyos died in this battle
fantasy
"The defeat in this battle plunged Japan into a fierce civil war and led to the fall of the Toyotomi regime" lol no. Toyotomi Hideyoshi was already dead when this battle happened, in fact that was the reason why the Japanese were going back home as he was the main reason the Imjin War took place to begin with and now that he was dead there was no reason to keep fighting. Also, there was no "civil war" after he died. The battle of Sekigahara happened two years after, and after it Japan literally entered in a new era of peace that lasted two whole centuries.
@@XcUtiOn96일본인이 자기 역사도 모르는가? 그이후에 내전이 없었다? 세키하라 전투가 왜 일어났는지 공부를 해라
nice joke
For anyone not familiar with this Imjin War, just know that this war was so big and devastating that it caused Japan to close down its borders into a total isolation for 300 years and Ming Dynasty of China collapsed after this war. It was the Greatest War of East Asia during the middle ages.
During this war, the Japanese overpowered the Korean army on land, but Koreans annihilated Japanese at sea and that is how the war ended.
During this war, the invincible Korean admiral Lee introduced Turtle Ships into the navy, the first ever ironclad warships in the world, 400 years earlier than European ironclad. The Turtle Ships were like tanks of the sea and smashed through everything in their path.
Admiral Lee devised many famous navy formations for the first time in world history by deploying crane formations as well as cantabrian circle using warships (just like a Mongol horse archer tactic on land). He also lured the entire Japanese fleet into a trap by luring them deep into this narrow channel called Noryang where the current was so strong that Japanese fleet were stuck and became sitting ducks. This is how Japan lost the war.
Admiral Lee Soon Shin is still honoured and commemorated by Koreans as the national hero to this day and many high ranking navy officers around the world look up to him as a role model.
間違っている、日本が鎖国をしたのは徳川が実権を握ったからであってこの戦争によるものではない。この戦争は関ヶ原の戦いの一つの原因でしかなく直接な原因では無い。韓国のような小国が日本に影響を与えたなどと笑わせるな
世界初の鉄を貼った装甲軍艦は1578年に日本の大阪湾で行われた織田と毛利の戦いである第二次木津川口の戦いに使われた織田の大安宅船やぞ。
本船は船体を厚さ3mm程度の鉄板で覆い、村上水軍が得意とした焙烙火矢に対する装甲とした。
実際にその船をみたイエズス会宣教師のオルガンチノのルイス・フロイス宛の報告書が今でも残ってる。
あと朝鮮海軍は亀甲船ではなく板屋船で勝った。亀甲船は重くて外洋ではあまり使えず朝鮮海軍の主力は硬い松を使った板屋船。この船は日本の主力艦だった安宅船や関船よりかなり優秀。
嘘つき朝鮮人は頭大丈夫か？
@@ImBijin韓国人の教育やっぱダメだな
@@user-lt7id2ny9h コイツらは2000年間属国でまともな歴史が無いので歴史を捏造したり妄想をよくする癖がある、それだけならまだ良いのだが自分たちが優れていると勘違いした結果、猿にも勝る傲慢な態度を取り始めるので本当にコイツらは叩きたくなる。
雖然是韓國人飾演明朝軍隊!!其口音有濃濃的韓國腔調!!但...本來明朝人講的就不是滿州人入關後的北京官話，影片裡的將領可能是明朝總兵-陳璘!他是廣東韶關客家人，是說客家話的...所以電影裡頭飾演陳璘的韓國人用韓腔很重黏在一起的北京話說話，搞不好正好實際演繹了陳璘說話的口音!!
자세한 소개감사합니다 진린장군 후손이 한국에 와서 정착하고 살았습니다 양국 우호의상징으로 시진핑주석도 이점을 말하고 양국이 잘지내길 바란다로 할때도 있었네요 지금은 양국이 사이가 멀어져서 안타깝습니다 임진왜란때 정신을 살렸음 좋겠네요
@@holidaysummer9256 Compared with Japan, China has had closer exchanges with the Korean Peninsula in the past 2,000 years, and people have settled in each other's regions throughout history.
@@snowlee-ml7rr 네 맞습니다 하지만 수나라 당나라 시절 한국이 고구려 백제 신라 시절엔 대규모로 철기문명 한자 벼농사법을 가지고 일본과 교류하고 백제는 왕자가 가서 왕족이 되고 고대엔 일본과 교류가 더 많았습니다 앞으로 싸우지말고 동아시아가 더 교류를 많이해야 합니다 그리고 삼국시절엔 한국의 무대는 한반도가 아니고 대륙이었지요... 요동
北方官话就是明朝开始的，跟现在国语有差，但不多。南方蛮子你大可以往汉唐靠，但是别乱编好吧
@@snowlee-ml7rr 솔직히 말해서 만주족(여진족, 말갈족?)은 한민족의 사촌지간으로서 동이족으로 불린 한민족과 만주족은 DNA가 거의 같습니다. 그럼에도 불구하고 조선은 청나라와 명나라 사이 중립외교를 펼친 왕을 축출하고 명나라와의 의리를 중시하다가 결국 멸망할 뻔 했어요. 당시 조선은 일본에 의해 국토의 70%가 파괴된 상황이고, 인구의 30%가 전쟁과 기아로 죽임을 당한 상황이었어요. 농경 사회에서 문명 재건이 쉬운일이 아니었음에도 조선은 한족 중심의 명나라의 편을 들다가 청나라에 의해 다시 멸망할 번 했어요.
Wow. I knew the Ming navy took part in the final naval battle against Japanese forces in the Imjin War, and I think I saw some clips of Ming soldiers fighting Japanese soldiers in land battles somewhere else, but this is the first time I saw scenes that actually show the Ming forces' naval battle against Japanese forces in this war.
IMjin war, the big event
명군이 아니라 조선군과 일본군 해전입니다 명군은 동맹이며 전투에 적극적이지 않았습니다
and ofcause，ming Navy was been told very weak and uesless in this movie,It is very different from the history of my side,but yes,I could understand,they need a hero that more capable than anyone ,but without ming help,japanese already took all the korea mainland,there won't have a naval battle😅but yea,still undetstand
Koreans like to take liberties with history, especially where China is concerned. It’s normal.
@user-nl5rf3nw7g 明朝如果不积极，已登录半岛的日本武士早杀光朝鲜人了，朝鲜军队只是在后来的海战取得了一些优势，陆战全靠明朝，而且朝鲜使用的火炮弹药都是明朝援助的
I feel terribly bad for the channel owner about turning this reply section into another battlefield.
always, the war starts from Japs.
This battle scene rules. Haters gonna hate 🤷♂️
I did watch this movie in 4D+speedx.
I did feel like me in the ship.
so exciting!
Which site did you watch
Still hope for Total War Asian for one day.
We have had two Shogun titles which were excellent. We had Three Kingdoms which was excrement.
Let's hope that they return to form before making a Total War: East Asia or however you'd call it.
No problem
You might see an entire total war east Asia in reality within 5-10 years 💀
Since this Imjin War (Japanese invasion of Korea) was the largest land and naval battle ever fought in East Asia during the Medieval times, they should call it the Imjin War.
Mongol, Manchu, Korea, Annam, Ming, Japan, Khmer, Siam, India, Tibet, Persia, etc, That will be epic
次はモンゴル帝国を題材にしたモンゴルトータルウォーで。
这里明军的盔甲和武器做的意外的好，但就是这个战船做的太不还原了……明军的战舰（junk）有很多种，大部分用的是福船和广船。福船和广船一般都是很高大的硬帆船，很少用人力驱动。这个电影里明军的战舰基本上都是朝鲜的板屋船模型加以改正的，与福船完全不搭边。而且最让我理解不了的是战舰有红色和绿色的涂装。明军的战舰都是原木色的，用红色涂装无疑是在海上暴露自己的位置。
I did a very brief research so it might not be correct, but it is said that Ming sent the fleet of Shachuan (沙船). All I know of Shachuan(沙船) is that it is smaller variation of Chinese ship specialized in coast manuveur, so I think that explains why the ships are small. About color, I think director did it to differentiate with Korean ship. Korean ships are wooden color, and Japanese ships are dark. Chinese ships are given a red-green to figure out who is who.
소품 추가하는거도 돈이들고 당시에 명나라수군이 조선군 판옥선을 받아서 싸웠다는 기록이 있어서 그냥 쓴거 같습니다.
@@junpark8078 沙船也不是这个模样。而且沙船体积不小，一共有五个桅杆船帆。是一个典型的戎克船（junk）。还有沙船也不适应于当战舰。中国战舰几乎都用福船。而这个电影里的船明显是朝鲜板屋船加上一点中国元素。
@@QWER-dc3qf影片制片人表示，当时南明军队使用的主舰很小，所以他们把它做得大一点，送进电影里。事实上，我相信李舜臣将板屋仙作为礼物送给邓子龙就是这个原因。
请理解我使用了翻译器。
据我所知,由于潮汐差大,水深浅,中国的大型军舰很难进入,因此只能以小型船舶为主力编制。 我用了翻译器，请谅解。
Toyotomi Hideyoshi's Imjin War as Japan invaded Korea, then the Joseon Kingdom, was a huge international war in East Asia that even fought against the then Ming China. Naturally, Ming's navy helped the Joseon Navy fight against Japan's navy on Korea's southern coast, but their fighting power was not very helpful. Rather, there are repeated references that they are a hindrance to the Joseon Navy. In the Noryang Battle, which is the background of this video, the Ming Navy Admiral Chén Lien was surrounded and in danger by the Japanese navy, and Yi Sun-shin's Joseon Navy rescued him. It is said that Chén Lien highly respected Yi Sun-shin and called him "Old Man" and urged him to never let his horse go ahead of him.
After the death of Toyotomi Hideyoshi, the remaining Japanese troops on the Korean Peninsula abandoned everything and rushed to withdraw to the Japanese islands, and the Battle of Noryang broke out as a pursuit of the Japanese army's fleet, where Yi Sun-shin, who was unable to safely return the Japanese soldiers who committed hundreds of thousands of massacres on the Korean Peninsula, withdrew. Ahead of the Battle of Noryang, the Ming government ordered him not to participate in the battle and to leave the Japanese navy unattended. He, who respected Yi Sun-shin deeply, eventually helped Yi Sun-shin and joined the battle together. The Joseon Navy rescued him, who was in crisis, and he came to visit Yi Sun-shin to thank him after the battle was over, but when he learned that Yi Sun-shin had died, he wailed with great sadness.
Yi Sun-sin is just big propagand Korea... Yi SUN-SIN has sunk 31 Japanese ships, Japan has 700 ships, 700-31=669.... Japanese still have 669 warships
However, Ming China was key to winning the land war, Korea was almost entirely occupied by Japan until China intervened on Korea’s side.
1592-1596: Japan organized the first invasion of Korea. The Japanese army easily approached the Korean coast and overwhelmed the Korean army to the point that Korea had to ask for help from the Ming Dynasty (Korean history). Quotations about General Yi appeared during this time).
1597-1598: Japan invaded Korea for the second time, the Japanese army continued to easily access the Korean coast and continued to overwhelm the Korean army, but this time with the help of the Ming army, the war quickly ended. into deadlock.
The question is: If Admiral Yi appeared in the period 1592-1596, why could the Japanese army continue to easily advance to the coast of Trieu Tien in the period 1597-1598? Not to mention, when the Japanese army retreated, they also brought with them many Korean slaves.
So what is the answer? Because Admiral Yi was not used in the early period of 1597-1598 for political reasons? Well, it's like a child's pitiful excuse, he can't explain why that obnoxious neighbor can still come into the garden and pat his mother's butt.
@@donkita1692It was Japanese agent who "defected" to Choseon. He fed them false informations, which lead to Yi's imprisonment.
@namvo3013 Do you realize it contains more information than is possible to record history from 500 years ago? The guy who wrote this paragraph definitely consulted kdrama because this is literally the script of a drama. The question is, do you really believe it and not wonder how they know that?
이 영화는 한국 , 중국 , 일본 모두 주인공 시점의 전투장면이 많습니다. 모두 악당이 아닙니다. 어쩔수 없이 전쟁에 끌려온 병사들의 사투 장면도 많습니다. 단순하게 재미있게 보세요 😊
일본이 침략을 했는데 악당이 아니야?! 너 매국노냐?! 프로필에 태극 넣지 마라 매국노 ㅆㅍㄻ
개소리 지껄이지마라 악당은 명백히 일본이다
일본은 악당 맞긴한데, 저 위의 두놈들은 문장의 맥락을 못 읽는다.
@@junpark8078어느 입장에서나 순수 악당이란건 없단다 우물안의 모기알아
@@user-ks3xk2vi6o 1948 건국절을 미는 길바닥 돌부스러기한테 우물 안 어쩌고 소리를 듣다니 어처구니가 없다 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Yi Sun-sin is definitely the only reason why Korea didn't capitulate to the Toyotomi regime during the Imjin War. Great admiral. If he wasn't there, Korea would probably be a Japanese colony 300 years earlier than they did historically.
Clearly not the only reason, Ming China was literally the reason why Korea was able to win the land war, you can’t win a war with naval battles alone if you lose all the land.
1592-1596: Japan organized the first invasion of Korea. The Japanese army easily approached the Korean coast and overwhelmed the Korean army to the point that Korea had to ask for help from the Ming Dynasty (Korean history). Quotations about General Yi appeared during this time).
1597-1598: Japan invaded Korea for the second time, the Japanese army continued to easily access the Korean coast and continued to overwhelm the Korean army, but this time with the help of the Ming army, the war quickly ended. into deadlock.
The question is: If Admiral Yi appeared in the period 1592-1596, why could the Japanese army continue to easily advance to the coast of Trieu Tien in the period 1597-1598? Not to mention, when the Japanese army retreated, they also brought with them many Korean slaves.
So what is the answer? Because Admiral Yi was not used in the early period of 1597-1598 for political reasons? Well, it's like a child's pitiful excuse, he can't explain why that obnoxious neighbor can still come into the garden and pat his mother's butt.
@@donkita1692 Are you Vietnamese?
@@lamlam-bw7evconsidering he saying “Trieu Tien” yes.
Koreans did not have much importance in the war between Ming and Japan, Koreans lost all the cities, compressed the capital, the Korean king was forced to flee to Ming borders to ask for help, Korean navy remained only dozens of ships, Yi Sun-sin destroyed 31 ships in total, Japanese still have 669 ships
Korea always makes great movie
To all international movie fans and who are interested in Korea&Japan history :
This movie is like the movie "Kingdom of Heaven(2005)" in a way
It is a good movie, tried decent amount of effort to reference "real history", and it is fun to watch all the actions and explosions
Still, it is a bit far from the historical facts in several ways, so please use this movie as a beginning step to get interested in history of north-east asia, but be aware of not all the scenes are 100% historically correct. Same as "Kingdom of Heaven(2005)"
Thank you
Oh please make a total war CA of the imjin war. This needs to be made. To showcase naval and land battles in east asia
I am Korean and I would love to see a console game developed based on this movie.
I know that Japan also has a console game based on the Mongol invasion.
I hope Korea also develops a console game based on the Imjin War.
ゴーストオブツシマはアメリカ開発だわ。お前らの国には他の国がゲームを作りたいと思うような歴史は存在しない
@@ImBijin그건 소니 자회사가 만든건데? ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 미국이 왜 쓰시마 따위 게임을 만들겠어
@@atruise3164 ゴーストオブツシマを開発したSucker Punch Productionsはアメリカのワシントンに本拠を置くゲーム開発スタジオでアメリカ製と見なされる。主要な開発者もアメリカ人であり歴史や文化のアドバイザーとして日本人が少数関与していたが主要な開発スタッフのほとんどがアメリカ人でゴーストオブツシマの企画発案者もSucker Punch Productionsに所属するアメリカ人であり、クリエイティブディレクターやプロデューサーもアメリカ人だ。会社の本拠地もワシントンで企画発案者も開発チームもアメリカ人で世界ではアメリカ製と見なされている。そしてソニーはもはや株主の50％以上が外国人の外資系企業でありソニーCEOに外国人が就任したりもはや日本企業とは言い難い。
@@ImBijin 미안한데 임진왜란은 니네 역사이기도 해ㅋㅋ
@@user-qb2gu9sv8k はい、そうです。私たちが半島に生息する猿の耳や鼻を削いだ楽しい歴史があります。😂😂
The Imjin War is not just a war, it's a tipping point that has had a huge impact on the history of Middle East Asia.
First, Japan's Toyotomi regime failed to achieve its goal of occupying Joseon and advancing to the Ming Dynasty, suffered enormous losses, and suffered a blow to its prestige, eventually being overpowered by Tokugawa Ieyasu.
The Ming had an economic crisis due to the huge war expenditure to save Joseon (the supply of dozens of soldiers, tens of thousands of tons of rice aid for the relief of Joseon), and the enormous loss of life, and they lost control of the aftershocks of Manchuria. Nurhachi established a Later Jin Dynasty and conquered the Ming Dynasty, developing into the Qing Dynasty.
In the case of Joseon, the main battlefield of the war, more than a million people were killed, and two-thirds of the entire arable land was lost, which is an irreversible blow. The nation's economy system was blown away by considering that Joseon was an agricultural society developed around agriculture at the time. Joseon struggled to recover the damage, but failed to betray its Ming's loyalty in the fight between the Ming and Qing dynasties, and then fought two wars with the Qing Dynasty, losing all of them and becoming Qing's tributes.
Its also the biggest war of its time dwarfing the casualties of any European conflict until Napoleon
Joseon had no way of knowing Qing would complete annhilate Ming, Ming was still going strong at the time despite setbacks
@@tl3033 You are right, but the situation was much more complicated.
It is true that the Ming Dynasty is powerful, but the Ming is a huge country.
Soldiers from Liaodong sent out to save Joseon, and as they moved south, there was a military and administrative vacuum in Manchuria. This was one of the reasons why the Ming failed to control Jurchen in time, even though they knew they were making disturbing moves.
And Joseon was unexpectedly well aware of the trend of the Jurchen regime.
But, due to such severe damage, Joseon put more emphasis on post-war restoration by striving to defend the border rather than helping the Ming and sending troops, which continued until the Battle of Sarhu.
However, it was also true that Joseon believed that the Ming Dynasty would be able to handle the Qing Dynasty, and the result of passing time without actively intervening (they could not actually afford to do it) came back to two severe wars.
@@campfire1155 No I agree with you that the biggest consequence of Imjin was that in the chaos the Jurchens were able to unite to form Qing within few generations
The imjin war didn't create economic crisis and downfall of the ming, I seriously don't understand why this myth keeps getting touted around. Do some actual research before spouting false information. It was largely due to internal conflict and rebllions within the ming that lead to their downfall.
Yi always avoided close combat. I don't know why this movie portrays that. He also suffer little to no losses when he was in charge. Not one ship of his sunk. He did die due a stray bullet hitting him. He is the greatest Admiral in History. Never lost a battle under his command.
This is some historical data I found on this Battle
Japanese Strength
300 ships- 500 ships (Korean sources)
Korean and Ming Ships
148 ships (Joseon: 85 warships, Ming: 63 warships)
Japanese Casualties and losses
200 ships sunk
100 ships captured
500 soldiers beheaded
100+ soldiers captured
13,000 soldiers killed
Korean and Ming Casualties and losses
500 soldiers and sailors
That's another battle, IIRC. It's featured in ''Rapid Currents''
The one where Yi faced 133 Japanese warships + 200 support vessels for a grand total of 333 with only *13* ships of his own right?
This battle he actually had to fight close when he had to save Chen Lin. It was pretty much free for all after.
It seems you need to read the Ming and Japanese chronicles instead of reading that fantasy book.
Why did the MIng have so little ship. They supposed to be the super power at that time
@maolo76 The Ming navy at the time was at decline. Many Ming officials disliked the idea of maritime policy.
4:04 This Joseon Navy's advance tactics are crazy. HOLY CRAP
This is called "Crossing the T" right?
So, I don't know a whole lot about the Imjin War or this movie, but it looks amazing.
It's supposed that the Ming Dynasty's support of Korea during the Imjin War was one of the contributing factors to their eventual downfall and the rise of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, which would rule over China until 1912.
Ming wasn't supporting the Koreans, Japan's goal was to invade Ming through Korea, so Korea was defending China by defending themselves with the help of a Chinese expeditionary force. This war occurred during Wan-Li Emperor era, which is considered to be a major turning point of Ming's power, supporting the war may have had a small contribution to its eventual downfall a few decades down the road but what actually brought Ming to its knees were multiple grassroots revolts, Manchu just swooped in if anything.
The Battle of Noryang was the last big naval battle during the Japanese invasions of Korea, which happened between 1592 and 1598. It was a crucial moment in history because it basically ended Japan’s attempt to invade Korea and China.
That split in two was beautiful. I find it a mistake from the ming fleet to turn around engage the way they did. Their ships are with better guns, take advantage of the slip and encircle them.
Then again. I can't find any reference of the ming fleet being involved with Japan at least at sea during the conflict
The Ming took part in this battle, regarding other naval battles in the war im not aware.
Toyotomi Hideyoshi's Imjin War as Japan invaded Korea, then the Joseon Kingdom, was a huge international war in East Asia that even fought against the then Ming China. Naturally, Ming's navy helped the Joseon Navy fight against Japan's navy on Korea's southern coast, but their fighting power was not very helpful. Rather, there are repeated references that they are a hindrance to the Joseon Navy. In the Noryang Battle, which is the background of this video, the Ming Navy Admiral Chén Lien was surrounded and in danger by the Japanese navy, and Yi Sun-shin's Joseon Navy rescued him.
Chén Lén is said to have deeply respected Yi Sun-shin and called him an "old man" and urged his horse to never get ahead of Yi Sun-shin's horse. Ahead of the Noryang battle, the Ming government ordered him not to participate in the battle and to leave the Japanese navy unattended, but he, who respected Yi Sun-shin deeply, eventually helped Yi Sun-shin and joined the battle together. The Joseon Navy rescued him, who was in crisis, and he came to Yi Sun-shin to thank him after the battle, but when he learned that Yi Sun-shin was killed, he wailed with great sadness.
@@sunpoya ah I see thank you for the context.
In fact the film is not wrong, the Ming dynasty sent a fleet to Noryang, but only 6 ships were truly war ships, another 57 were lighter ships, both types were armed with many cannons and firearms in general, the Fuchuan (professional warships) carried 20 cannons in a very wide variety, including cannons of Portuguese design, and up to 60 fire lances (huochong) for personal use, so the Chinese ships were not frank, but their leadership was not efficient for war naval.
source: Science and Civilization in China, Volume 5, page 408. The Imjin War, page 552-553
When I was at university I was told that the best author on the war is called Stephen Turnbull, unfortunately I never looked for his books, but I suggest you do so to learn more about the topic, it's a shame that the Imjin war is not studied, when it occurred it was simply the biggest conflict of its time with more than half a million combatants, there are even Portuguese and Spanish authors who were in Asia and talk about it as a war so big that the world has never seen anything like it.
この映画に登場する日本側の主要な大名は島津氏です。当時日本でも有数の大名で、日本南部の九州に拠点を置いていました。丸に十字の旗で識別できます。
It's a movie with a lot of fiction for fun. There are some differences from the reality. In the actual Noryang naval battle, the Turtle Ship did not participate in the battle. Also, I read the comments, and many people misunderstand. It is true that the Japanese military advanced deep into Joseon, but they only occupied the main roads and the cities on the roads. (This causes the Japanese military to be hit hard when the righteous army of Joseon was active in the rear.) Also, the Joseon army was powerless on land, and the Ming army fought in the army
It is said that most of them were in charge, but he is not true. In the Battle of Yongin, a battle that took place at the beginning of the Imjin War, the Joseon army had nearly 70,000 troops. This means that Joseon had excellent administrative power and the army had the capacity to compete with Japan in terms of scale.
The Japanese army thought that if they could quickly capture the Joseon king and the his palace, like 'Checkmate' in chess game, they could quickly occupy all of Joseon. In feudalistic Japan, the Daimyo would usually commit 'seppuku' suicide(OFC, not all of them) without running away because daimyos were responsible for the protection of the castle and their people in kind of implicit exchange for the authority and power bestowed upon him. Whereas Koreans, in Joseon, the king ran away, abandoning his people, so it was an absurd act from the Japanese perspective. However, even before Joseon era, Koreans had already experienced attacks from like the Mongols who used checkmate strategies with rapid mobility while fighting numerous wars with northern peoples. Representative examples include the Goryeo-Khitan Wars(高麗-契丹戰爭, 993-1019)
When Yi Sun-shin won the battle and the people liked Yi Sun-shin more than Seonjo, King Seonjo sent Yi Sun-shin to prison and put the incompetent General Won-kyun into the battle, but General Won-kyun, blind to victory, sank 200 of Joseon's ships in the battle. At the time, 200 ships were huge. And Japan saw its soldiers improve due to the Warring States era. This has been translated into Korean
If the Korean army had the fighting power you mentioned, would the King of Korea have fled to the Chinese border? After being defeated by the Japanese army, the entire country lost confidence in resistance and tried its best to seek help from the Ming Dynasty emperor.
@@snowlee-ml7rr Well, he didn't use the term "fighting power" in the first place. He was talking purely about the mobilizable force and the administrative power that made it possible. Of course, since they were conscripted peasants who had never experienced combat, it would have been difficult to expect fighting power.
However, your claim that the entire country lost confidence in resistance and tried its best to seek help from the Ming Dynasty emperor is completely wrong.
The request for help from the Ming Dynasty, despite opposition from even his subjects, was due to the stubbornness of King Seonjo, not the people, and as the war progressed, even people in some regions who had initially helped the Japanese army later turned against the Japanese army. Volunteer armies rose up in various places, and guerrilla warfare, which was unfamiliar to Japan, which had never experienced a war abroad, became stronger, and as a result, it became more disadvantageous for the Japanese army.
According to the records, unfortunately, most of the ships that Yi Sun-sin sank were Japanese transport ships, only a few dozen in number. And that was only as a result of surprise attacks. After that, the Japanese navy cooperated with the land forces, so Yi Sun-sin was unable to launch a surprise attack and retreated. After peace was made between Ming and Japan, Yi Sun-sin attacked the Japanese troops as they were leaving, even though peace had already been made. However, he was easily defeated. None of the main Japanese officers were harmed, but many officers from Ming and Korea were killed. This can be seen from the records of Ming and Japan. There are not many records from Korea, but it is written in Korean records as well.
Many Joseon generals died and Japanese daimyo-class samurai did not die well, well, there seems to be a difference in perspective between countries at the time. In Japan, daimyo was a monarch, and when daimyo, a monarch, died, most of the samurai under his command became Ronin as a general who failed to protect the lord, and while Joseon, which was a central government bureaucracy, had one king and the chief ministers were a servant and a general, no matter how high they were, so the Japanese military tried to save the monarch, Daimyo, and Joseon and Ming did not have the lives of major generals as precious as Japan, and they could seat someone else. Representatively, even during the Toyotomi period, the names of families such as Shimazu, Mori, Tokugawa, and Uesugi, respectively, but Joseon was called the Joseon Army, and the difference was not called by name alone, although it was only by soldiers such as the Army and the Navy.
朝鮮の将帥たちがたくさん死んで、日本の大名級の侍たちがあまり死ななかったのは、うーん.. これは当時の国家間の観点の違いがあるように見えますね.. 日本は大名が君主であり、君主である大名が死んだら、その配下にいた侍たちは主君を守れなかった将帥になってロニンになるのがほとんどで、大きな不名誉が伴った反面、中央集権の官僚制だった朝鮮は、至尊は王1人であり、下の将帥たちはいくら高くても一介の臣下や将帥だったので、日本軍は君主である大名を何とか生かそうとし、朝鮮と名は日本に比べて主要将帥の命がそれほど貴重ではなく他の人を座らせてもいるのではないかと思います。 代表的に見ると、豊臣時代にもそれぞれ島津郡、毛利郡、徳川郡、上杉郡など家門の名前で呼ばれていましたが、朝鮮はただ朝鮮軍と呼ばれ、陸軍、水軍など兵種だけで違いがあり、名前だけでは呼ばれませんでした。
조선의 장수들이 많이 죽고 일본 다이묘급 사무라이들이 잘 안죽은건, 음.. 이건 당시 국가간 관점의 차이가 있어보이네요.. 일본은 다이묘가 군주였고 군주인 다이묘가 죽으면 그 휘하에 있던 사무라이들은 주군을 지키지 못한 장수가 되어 로닌이 되는게 대부분이였고 큰 불명예가 따라던 반면에 중앙 집권의 관료제였던 조선은 지존은 왕 1명이었고 밑의 장수들은 아무리 높든 일개 신하 및 장수였으므로 일본군은 군주인 다이묘를 어떻게든 살리려 했고 조선과 명은 일본에 비해 주요 장수들의 목숨이 그렇게 귀하지 않고 다른 사람을 앉혀도 되니 그렇지 않은가 싶네요. 대표적으로 보면 도요토미 시대 때에도 각각 시마즈 군, 모리 군, 도쿠가와 군, 우에스기 군 등 가문의 이름으로 불렸지만 조선은 그저 조선군이라 불리었고 육군, 수군등 병종으로만 차이가 났지 이름만으로는 안불리었습니다.
The Battle of Noryang, which took place in the South Sea of Korea on December 16, 1598, was a naval battle between the combined fleets of Korea and China versus Japan. This naval battle was the final battle of the 7-year lasting Imjin War between Korea and Japan. In this naval battle, the Japanese Navy suffered a crushing defeat, and at least 30,000 Japanese soldiers died that day. This battle is the battle in which the largest number of Japanese soldiers died in a single day among all battles fought by the Japanese army from the past to World War II.
I know that there are various countries involved in the Imjin War. First of all, the wars involved not only Ming, Japan, and Joseon, but also Southeast Asia and Manchuria, and even Portugal and black mercenaries. It was a great war of Asia.
Shimazu accepted Konishi's request for help and went to help, but Konishi threw Shimazu as bait and ran away alone.
Korean soldiers are not fighting. The Korean army retreated if it saw the Japanese army. It was China who fought, not Korea.😂
What a battle scene it’s honestly impressive
Personally, I think the battle scene in the previous movie, Hansan, was more impactful, but I also enjoy watching the battle scene in Noryang, which is larger in scale.
@YogiMaemi Battle took in the nighttime, so the dark screen visual is also a bit of a problem, too.
They still did a much better job than Game of Thrones did with their night battle, at least we can see what is happening
The battle was much messier than Hansan historically as well. It was an all out slugging match compared to the beautifully arranged tactics at Hansan. Accounts suggest that Noryang was quite brutal.
@@skyereave9454 Night Battles generally are, since due to limited light, soldiers and sailors (in this case), struggle with seeing their lines and their enemies, often confusing or crashing with one another and often relay on fire signal or wars horns and voices of their commanders to know where to go and what to do
島津ばりかっこいいやん
When the movie was first released, I would have liked to have followed the original history, but I was disappointed in that part. Joseon taught the Japanese military, which could return as it did on August 27, 1597, to think twice in the event of an attack. Unlike the movie, the Ming Dynasty fought actively from the beginning, but the Japanese side did not fight. The Shimadzu family, whose unification of Kyushu was thwarted by Toyotomi's conquest of Kyushu, can be seen as an enemy and became a daimyo of Kyushu to watch them. In recognition of his contribution when he went to rescue Yukina Konishi, a subordinate of Hideyoshi, he became a daimyo of Kyushu, and the urgency to protect his family by proving his loyalty to the new regime and the Japanese people's desire to leave the boring Joseon land to return to their homeland. He tried to get out of the dead end and entered the country after trying to escape the dead end, and struggled to survive under the siege somehow. The director made a mistake... It's a naval battle of Hansan Island, even if it's too one-sided, this is hard to defend.
Я согласен с тобой как россиянин. Чем больше вы знаете об истории Кореи, тем больше она становится ложью.
@@user-vf8cj1qe1iAs a result of the actual history and the movie, Japan, Ming, and Joseon each achieved a purpose. The result is not false, but a more intense and desperate process than in the movie. Joseon agreed to let go of its anger as an invader, Japan to return to its homeland, and Russia, as in Joseon's position, did not leave Napoleon's retreating troops to leave behind, so they fought desperately, and Japan, along with their lord Yoshihiro Shimazu, escaped major daimyo (although their boat sank), and Ming and Joseon drew results that would make them hesitate if they tried to re-attack.
@@dazewalker3340 What I want you to know is that China and Japan fought in this war. South Korea has hardly fought. It's pathetic enough to watch a Korean propaganda movie.
@@kavnejwl 노량해전은 사실상 조선 주도의 전쟁이었어요. 무슨 말도 안되는 말을... 명나라는 쇠퇴기였고, 군대를 최대한 보전해야 했어요. 그리고 역사서에 대한 기록이 사실이 아니라고 한다면, 뭘 믿어야 할까요?
A bit of topic.
Relations between ancient Japan and China have a long history, and in certain periods the exchange of political, religious and cultural practices between the two was intense.
China, the much older state and the more developed, passed on to Japan (sometimes indirectly via Korea) a long list of ideas including rice cultivation, Buddhism, centralised government models, civil service examinations, clothing, art, literature, music, eating habits, how to use chopsticks, how to cultivate silk for their clothing, how to govern themselves, how to create bonzai, calligraphy, poetry and even how to read and write Chinese characters (Hanzi 汉字which they call Kanji).
Trade relations greatly outlasted cultural and diplomatic ties, with Japan beginning to develop its own unique cultural path from the 9th century CE onwards.
Anyone has family that served in admiral yi sun shin’s fleet?
It is known that Yi Sun-sin's nephew and son boarded the flagship and fought against the Japanese navy.
like all 16th century countries, most of peasant or commoners did not left their family record. more like they could not due to price of writing tools and maintaining fee for books
though, some nobilities, or claimers they are inheriting nobilities have family record going back to 16th century, and some of them have ancestors served under admiral Yi's fleet as captain of a warship or commander of smaller fleet
Theyre all dead 400 hundred years ago
Practically almost all Korean men, especially from the south west of the Korean Peninsula, were called upon to be foot soldiers and sailors in this War. Not a single Korean man of fighting age could escape a military duty during that war. Even farmers and fishermen joined voluntarily because the alternative was annihilation of the country.
8:43
The real history is that the general's name is Deung Ja Ryong
He is 70 old
Deung is too old for General Chen
Deung did not participate in the battle
But Deung told General Chen
He made a strong request and eventually participated in the war
In fact, Deung was able to get Joseon's warship from Yi Sun-shin
If I got it as a gift, I'll get a warship as a gift
He fought the Japanese army, and he ended up in the middle of the battle
But Deung Ja Ryong going to die
Yi sun shin is truly god of the sea 😮 by god his naval record just unimaginable
이 영상을 통해 대략적인 역사적 흐름을 알 수 있을것이다.th-cam.com/video/XbpGzgq5QOQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BFnWGlv8og9Dm9lD
I watched the Imjin War videos posted on this channel, and the comments posted there are almost identical.
Korea: 각 나라의 전투 장면이 들어가서 좋다.
English speaking countries: This guy never lost a battle. Awesome guy and story.
Japan: 楽しい映画です！, 昔より俳優と映画の質が上がった。
Japanese net far rightist(ネット右翼): Fake movie. Fake history. Lee failed to defeat Japan
😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉
What you should know is that Japan has guns, but there are no cannons, and Korea does not have guns, but there are cannons. And Korea's front line was a semi-iron warship. Japan's high-speed neckline was simply torn apart, and Japan was defeated.
While japan excels at land battles, korean more to dealing pirates alot, hence why they focusing on naval cannons more that muskets
@@Real_British Japan learned gun-related skills through trade with the Netherlands, but there were no cannons-related skills. This was because Japan was very technologically backward. On the other hand, Korea developed its own cannon technology in 12th century, and developed the world's first missile. However, Korea had no raw materials for gunpowder, and although it was mostly imported from China, it was controlled, and could hardly import gunpowder, which hindered the development of gun guns. There is a big reason why gun technology was not introduced to Korea because it was not developed in China. Korea traditionally has a normal army and weak navy. Most of its troops are in the north and strong, as it has to bear the aftershocks of the mounted people, a precursor to the Qing Dynasty in the north. Japan is originally an island country, so the navy is strong. It is easy to see why Japan seems to have a strong army and Korea seems to have a strong navy in the Korea-Japan war. It is because of the differences in technology. The Korean army had knives, the navy had iron armor and cannons. The Japanese army had guns, and the navy had a wooden ship, and no cannons.
It's amazing that you can believe in that fantasy.
Yeah, it's called history
This battle leaves the most stain for the Chinese Naval history. Worst of all, it costs the life of Admiral Yi, who is one of the greatest admirals in the world who had managed to salvage the situation. An embarrassment that the Chinese are still unable to recover till to date.
Hearing Korean people speak Japanese and Chinese with their accents is funny
I like it
Admiral Yi Sun-shin fought in the war against Japan
He fought 23 times and won 23 times
Koreans tell 23 lies.
total strength of the Japanese army at that time was over 500,000, and 150,000 were sent to Korea. Don't lose sight of the fact that a third of the total military force captured Seoul in three weeks and most of the cities, including Pyongyang, in two months. In this war, Korea was only a supporting player, and only Japan and China fought mainly. Korea was weak and had entrusted all authority to China, its suzerain, so it was China that negotiated with Japan, and Korea was refused participation in the negotiations by China, its suzerain.
@@ImBijin What nonsense?
China was passive.
@@evilburn83 『明史』王徳完伝:「寧夏用兵、費八十余万、朝鮮之役七百八十余万、播州之役二百余万」（Ningxia spent more than 800,000 yuan on troops, more than 7.8 million yuan on the Korean War, and more than 2 million yuan on the Bozhou Campaign.）
@@ImBijin 미카미 보면서 딸이나 쳐라....🐒
The Imjin War was the first real war involving Korea, China, and Japan. Before that, there was an attempt by the Mongols, allied with Goryeo, to invade Japan, but due to typhoons, full-scale battles did not occur. This war had a significant impact on East Asian history, leading to the decline of the Ming Dynasty and the collapse of Toyotomi Hideyoshi's regime.
In real history, Shimazu lost most of his fleet, even his flagship, and fled to Japan.
realLY?? i cant find any facts like that on wiki?
@@questionc9312 기함을 잃었다는 건 억측일 것이다.
다만 시마즈는 이 전투에서 많은 병력을 잃어버린 결과,
일본으로 돌아가 세키가하라 전투에 참여할 때 충분한 병력을 동원할 여력이 없었다.
Don't write a mistake. Shimazu's death toll was 26. Both Japanese and Chinese historical documents say it was around 20. Most of them died? That's just a delusion in your head.
@@user-zd3nb3gu2n The Japanese record is 26? What is the record?
In Korean studies, it is cross-verified by the record that 200 wires were lost in the 『Jeonghanwiryak』(征韓偉略) written by Mito Domain in Japan and the record of 13,000 deaths in the Annals of the Joseon Dynasty.
関ヶ原の時に島津義弘は少数しか連れていけなかったのは兄で当主である島津義久が参加を許さなかった為です。少数の兵士たちは島津義弘を慕って命令に背いて薩摩から関ヶ原まで駆けつけ参加した義勇兵でした。事実関ヶ原後に兄の義久は徳川家康から許しを得るために島津家の領国国境沿いに三万の兵を展開。
黒田、加藤、鍋島といった徳川方の大名と睨み合いを徳川家康が島津を許すまで2年続けてます。
Admiral Yi Sun-sin's achievements are on display at the Saga Prefecture Museum in Japan. The Japanese deny it
日本人目線で言うと戦争初期は確かに日本の補給路を分断されたり海戦で苦戦をしたが、戦争中期以降は何もさせていない認識ですね。
韓国内で有名な鳴梁海戦でも海域を占領したのは日本側でした。
this is awesome
面白い映画ですね！
This is a Korean movie that depicts the final battle of the Imjin War when Toyotomi Hideyoshi invaded the Josun Dynasty of Korea. After this battle, Hideyoshi died and Tokugawa Ieyasu took power and closed down Japan for 300 years. This war was very traumatic for the Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese alike. Chinese Ming Dynasty also fell apart after this war because they spent too much money and men on this campaign. Only Korean Josun Dynasty survived the aftermath of the war.
三国ともできるだけ素敵に出るよう監督が演出しました。
That's a lot WARSHIPS back then
It was the largest naval battle in world history at that time. It was only surpassed hundreds of years later by the D Day Landing in WW2.
@@UltimateTruthChannel Iwo Jima, had over a 1000 USS Warships and more than 100 thousand soldiers going to the front.
This is the effect when it is the nation who produces it's own historical films. Not fucking holywood garbage of adaptations of somebody's else histories
Shogun 3 looks awesome, CA back on form.
다음 역사 토탈워가 일본이면 좋겠네요
No. Shogun lost this war really badly. This is a perfect setting for a Korean perspective game “The Turtle Ship”.
@@YJK-je6xq조선이어야지.
@@UltimateTruthChannel yeah that'd be cool, I'd be happy with a medieval to industrial era total war game set in Korea. Turn the tables maybe have Korea invade Japan, or take over China or go into the Russian steppes. Many possibilities with a diverse range of countries and units.
In the early stage of the Rolyang Battle, Yi Sun-sin was shot dead by the Japanese Satsuma's gunmen, yet he continued to fight against the Japanese forces, I believe that he was highly motivated to fight to protect his country. The Satsuma gunmen were soldiers who were able to accurately snipe their opponents on the shaky sea and in total darkness, so it can only be called as unlucky. However, in spite of the ambush and attack on the fleeing Japanese forces, none of the officers of the Japanese forces could be killed and returned to Japan safely, and on the contrary, Yi Sun-sin and other officers of the Joseon Navy were killed across the board, which may not be the result. In addition, there were only 61 POWs taken by the Japanese forces and the number of POWs was very small, so it would be better to reconsider the number of POWs killed in the war and the results of the war. This is a point common to both Ming and Japanese documents of the time. Only in the diary of Yi Sun-sin, the number of the turtle ship and the number of the battle results jumped up, so it is better to make a calm judgment. However, Yi Sun-sin is a hero of Joseon, and that is a definite fact.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㄱㅋㅋㅋㄱㅋㅋㅋ 이새키 존나웃기네 ㅋㅋㅋ
@@fghdjajak The total strength of the Japanese army at that time was over 500,000, and 150,000 were sent to Korea. Don't lose sight of the fact that a third of the total military force captured Seoul in three weeks and most of the cities, including Pyongyang, in two months. In this war, Korea was only a supporting player, and only Japan and China fought mainly. Korea was weak and had entrusted all authority to China, its suzerain, so it was China that negotiated with Japan, and Korea was refused participation in the negotiations by China, its suzerain.🤣🤣
@@ImBijin응히로시마 나가사키 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 나가사키 짬뽕먹고싶네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㄱㅋ
@@ImBijin전세계에서 유일하게 핵폭탄 쳐맞은 나라!!!!!!!!!
@@ImBijin 일본놈들은 자국역사서도 뻥튀기가 너무심하드라 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 부끄러움이없니 ?
The presence of Yi Sun-shin is a trigger for the Japanese. It should be remembered that most Japanese today are not properly educated for the terrible crimes their country committed during World War II. History distortion is serious in China, but Japan is on a completely different level. In the past, the Japanese were constantly manipulating their sources, claiming to have buried relics in the ground and discovered something new. As a result, Japanese archaeological remains are now only recognized through cross-examination in Korea or China. And it is important to know that the Japanese king they serve as a god is blood related to Baekje, one of the ancient Korean states. However, Japan and the Japanese even deny this undeniable historical fact. The Japanese falsely claim that Baekje had nothing to do with the Koreans. Japan's armor style is almost the same as or very similar to Gaya, an ancient Korean country. I believe that one day there will be a day when many intellectuals around the world will realize how seriously Japan has distorted and revised records in many fields, including myths, history, and artifacts.
Your propaganda is just conspiracy theories only recognized by Koreans.
Historically, the Japanese coming to Korea and subjugating the entire Korean nation was a 100% historical event.
China came to Korea and forced the Korean king to kneel, which is also an event that 100% happened.
Koreans nowadays only know how to make up baseless rumors about their neighbors, they don't have anything that is 100%, just rumors and rumours.
I dare not refer to several descriptions recorded in ”Nihon Shoki(일본서기)" or "Kojiki (고사기)" here, for you Koreans obstinately reject to accept thoseones. Thence, I'm gonna take up one of the history books of China ("The Book of Sui (隋書)"),and the cutline of "The Portraits of Periodical Offering (梁職貢図)" below:As for Silla and Baekje that had existed in the Korean peninsula: these kingdoms had been usually subordinate to Japan in ancient times.1. "The Book of Sui, " Vol. 81, Dongyi-zhuan 46 (隋書 東夷伝 第八十一巻 列伝四十六) saysas follows:"Both Silla and Baekje admired WA as a great nation with a plenty of things rare and precious.Therefore, they would often send their envoys to WA respectively."(新羅百濟皆以倭為大國 多珍物並敬仰之 恒通使往來)2. According to the cutline of "The Portraits of Periodical Offering (梁職貢図, Zhigongtu)"found in 2011, Silla had been subjugated not only to proto-Han (韓), but also to ancient Japancalled WA (倭)： "Salo (斯羅) was originally a tiny state located in Jinhan (辰韓, 진한), Dongyi (東夷, 동이). This state was called Silla (新羅) during the time of Wei (魏), or called Salo (斯羅) in the reign of the Song dynasty (宋朝). These two states were identical. King of this state could not send his envoys to anywhere at his own will. It is because this state belonged to Han (韓) in one period, but was subjugated to WA in another." (斯羅國，本東夷辰韓之小國也. 魏時曰新羅，宋時曰斯羅，其實一也. 或屬韓或屬倭，國王不能自通使聘.)
Koreans are really good at propaganda.
@@donkita1692 my guy, if you can't understand the importance of winning naval battles when you're getting invaded from the sea then there's really no point in taking anything you say seriously
Japanese land forces were larger than Korean land forces, even with Ming support. Korean forces made up the majority of land forces against the Japanese throughout the war. Japanese navy was also larger than Korean Navy. Land battles were not showing clear victory against the Japanese, until Admiral Yi took charge of Korean Navy which soon gained full control of the sea/ocean preventing Japanese navy from sending supplies and reinforcement. Admiral Yi and Korean navy won all naval battles against the numerically superior Japanese navy which was suffering huge losses. With food resupply and weapon reinforcements destroyed by Korean navy, Japanese land forces were in full retreat and losing land battles, eventually leading to Japan losing the war. Korean navy sealed the victory. Prior to Korea-Japanese war, for many decades, Koreans have sent Korean military forces to support Ming against another Northeast Asian, Kim Dynasty(Jin/Qing). Kim Dynasty was preparing for full invasion of Ming Dynasty, thus Ming could not fully commit to Korean - Japanese war. However, Ming was obligated to support the Korea (Joseon) for the prior Korean support against Kim Dynasty. In few years after Korea-Japan war ended, Kim Dynasty (Jin/Qing) invaded and conquered Ming Dynasty, and this time Korean military could not provide large support for Ming as Korea was still recovering from Korea-Japan war. Kim Dynasty did not wanted to invade Korea(Joseon) as Kim Dynasty viewed Korea(Joseon) as same bloodline brother nation, since Kim Dynasty was founded by Korean Silla Dynasty, Kim family. But Korea refused to align with Kim Dynasty and chose war against the Kim Dynasty, however Korean court eventually aligned with Kim Dynasty(Jin/Qing) to avoid total economic collapse. After Ming Dynasty collapse, Ming loyalties fled to Korea which protected them from Kim Dynasty prosecution which was death for all Ming hierarchy.
at 3:22, What are those weapons called?
Korean say "대장군전(Dea jang gun jeon)"
Daejanggoonjeon (대장군전) in English, it means 'Imperator arrow'
The "short-term-propelled anti-ship missile"
Harpoon
Made-up bul she-et
In the darkness of the night, it almost seems like the battle was being fought in space, within the dusty and meteor filled bands of a very dense star forming molecular cloud.
amazing
Where can I find this movie?
'명량' 이라는 제목의 영화를 찾아보세요
@@lonelyfist-poongho Ok, thank you very much :)
豊臣政権時の朝鮮出兵ですか？
面白そうなので本編見てみたい。
Epic battle
日本語カタコトすぎでしょ
Chinese invade Korea approx 500 times and Japanese invade Korea approx 500 times Mongolian invade Korea approx 10 times. But Korea never invade other countries, Please leave Korea alone.😅
그저 볼 때마다 이순신 장군님께 존경과 안타까움을 느낍니다 선조와 원균은 지금이라도 무덤을 파서 유골이 없으면 그 흙이라도 갈아서 개밥으로 줘야 합니다 이순신 장군님은 영원히 가슴 속에 묻어두는 신이며 명장이며 교훈입니다
Next please
I have no idea what this is about, who anyone is, or what even show this is from...but ooo boy have I been looking forward to this!
This is the final naval battle of the Imjin War where Japan had invaded Korea and was defeated. There were many naval battles like this during the war and this is one of the most famous ones. Basically, the Japanese navy was annihilated by the Korean navy commanded by General Lee (Yi). This marked the end of the Japanese ambitions and Japan went into 300 year isolation.
@@UltimateTruthChannel Shut up, Koreans who are talking about hoaxes.
@@UltimateTruthChannel It has nothing to do with Japan's national isolation. Japan closed itself off out of fear of European missionary work.
@@user-lt7id2ny9hShut up and go back to school, you stupid kid. Hideyoshi’s family was destroyed because of this war and Tokugawa Ieyasu took power instead and he personally said it was a huge mistake to invade Korea, and he closed down the borders. Learn some history or STFU.
@@user-lt7id2ny9h You uneducated and ignorant fool. Tokugawa Ieyasu said himself it was a mistake to invade Korea and then shut down the borders. Learn some history or shut up.
Japanese fleet vs Ming(China) fleet + Joseon(Korea) fleet
in reality mainly it was Joseon (Korea) vs Japan (Shimazu fleet) with help of Ming navy which didn’t do much
Koreans did not have much importance in the war between Ming and Japan, Koreans lost all the cities, compressed the capital, the Korean king was forced to flee to Ming borders to ask for help, Korean navy remained only dozens of ships, Yi Sun-sin destroyed 31 ships in total, Japanese still have 669 ships
@@alexhu5491Thanks to Yi Sun-shin's victory in the naval battle, Japan was unable to advance into the sea and affected its supply
@@user-jh5uc7dr9v Korean navy has about more than 80,000 soldiers (which is a quarter of Korea's total military strength) and 488 ships, including 80 warships (80 people per ship) and 192 auxiliary warships (30-60 people per ship). 26 service ships, entire Korean navy is annihilated by Japanese navy. Yi sun sin is not superman he only has 12 ships.... Ming to help Koreans sent 500 warships 🤷
@@user-jh5uc7dr9v Li SuShi is a great strategist, but he is not Superman, historical documents show: he destroyed 31 Japanese ships in total.
In this period ,Ming was fighting with many enemies in the west against ,Mongols,Turkic ,and rebellions .in the east and also Japanise. Tha war was great and Chen Lin was a great warrior
Chen Lin was killed while fighting the Qing Dynasty, and one of his sons became a naturalized citizen of Joseon (Korea)
感覺日本人與中國人都是韓國人配音的，聽起來就很奇怪XD
如果可以請當地人在地化的配音，那應該挺棒的。
不過也是用心了，至少沒全韓文，充分區分個別勢力。
I love this Shimazu Yoshihiro so much, his acting skill so cool.
당시 일본의 군사력은 막강했다, 하지만 그 보다 뛰어난 지략가 이순신 장군이 계셔 조선을 구원했다.
They were embarrassed by the first surprise attack and made the mistake of entering a deep port. They had cleared out their bases to return to Japan, so if they lost their ship, they would never be able to return to their hometown. This scene shows them struggling for life. In the end, after a fierce battle, only a small number of people were able to return to Japan. You can see how severe the resentment and hatred of those who were invaded was.
この戦いで日本の大名は誰一人戦死していませんが。
朝鮮の将帥たちがたくさん死んで、日本の大名級の侍たちがあまり死ななかったのは、うーん.. これは当時の国家間の観点の違いがあるように見えますね.. 日本は大名が君主であり、君主である大名が死んだら、その配下にいた侍たちは主君を守れなかった将帥になってロニンになるのがほとんどで、大きな不名誉が伴った反面、中央集権の官僚制だった朝鮮は、至尊は王1人であり、下の将帥たちはいくら高くても一介の臣下や将帥だったので、日本軍は君主である大名を何とか生かそうとし、朝鮮と名は日本に比べて主要将帥の命がそれほど貴重ではなく他の人を座らせてもいるのではないかと思います。
@@dazewalker3340 いちいち翻訳された変な日本語使うなよ。悲しい現実
list of war dead
「日本（1万石以上）」Japan
来島通総（1.4万石）Only Kurujima-Michifusa
※中川秀政（13万石） ※Nakawaga-Hidemasa, Died due to enemy encounter while falconry
「朝鮮（三品以上）」south ＆ north Korea
鄭撥、尹興信、宋象賢、洪允寛、李宗張、申石吉、元豪、元喜、柳崇仁、徐礼元、鄭湛、高敬命、趙憲、鄭運、金時敏、沈岱、金千鎰、崔慶会、黄進、元均、李億祺、李福男、任鉉、崔湖、呉応鼎、黄世得、郭越、李舜臣、李英男、金澥、李薦、裵蘿立、李渾、金貴栄、李瑛、黃赫等、李範、李錘、文夢軒
Jeong Bo, Yun Heung-shin, Song Sang-hyun, Hong Yun-kwan, Yi Jong-jang, Shin Seok-gil, Won-hao, Won-hee, Yoo Chong-in, Seo Ye-won, Jeong Dan, Gao Gyeong-myeon, Cho Heon, Jeong Un, Kim Si-min, Shen Dai, Kim Chun-hyun, Choi Kyung-hue, Hwang Jin, Won Gyun, Lee Bill-chi, Lee Bok-nam, Im Hyun, Choi Ho, Oh Yong-ding, Hwang Se-deok, Guo Yue, Yi Sun-shin, Lee Young-man, Kim Bo, Yi Xian, Bei A-li, Lee Hun, Kim Gui Rong, Li Ying, Huang He, etc., Li Fan, Li Yong, Wen Mengxuan.
「明（遊撃以上）」Ming China
載朝弁、史儒、廬継忠、李新芳、蒋表、毛承先、楊万金、李寧(副総兵) 、李寧(参将)、廬徳功、鄧子龍(水軍副総兵)
Zai Chaoben, Shi Li, Lu Jizhong, Li Xinfang, Chiang Biao, Mao Chengxian, Yang Wanjin, Li Ning (vice general soldiers), Li Ning (general staff), Lu Degong, Deng Zilong (naval vice general soldiers)
島津兵強すぎぃ!
시마즈는 인정. 그러나 육지에서 싸운게 아닌 바다에서 이순신과 싸운건 이길수 없다.
@@chriskim2958はいはいそうだね強いね
04:16 🇰🇷Korea (vs) 🇯🇵Japan
일본내에서도 가장 용맹했다는 부대라고 하더군요.
@@chriskim2958勝てない？笑李舜臣は島津の兵士に殺されてるじゃん笑
Answer these questions : A: Ming vs Japan is the biggest wars in history b: samurai took over Chinese land in the three kingdoms c: land was undercover by island called Japan
日本語が片言やん
absolute cinema
wow
5:15
Shimazu clan guy: You're approaching me? Instead of running away, you're coming right to me?
Ming admiral: I cannot sink the shit out of you from over here.
Unfortunately, he did not posess the Star Platinum.
These guys have perfect eyesight, able to look at the battlefield and know exactly where everyone is and what is happening, with no assistance. Must have eaten a lot of carrots before the battle.
Wow
Wow
Bro was flabergasted
Ten Portuguese galleons hired by the Ming would have made this battle a slaughter from the very start.
そんなに凄い船何ですか？
일본 역사 영화에선 조총 쏠때 지휘관이 하나세!!! 라고 하던데
우리나라에선 우테!! 라고 하는구나
활 발사 명령어가 하나떼/세 인데 원래 그게 맞아용 우테는 근대에 와서 대포 총 발사하는 명령이고요
@@GuNdAmWiThYoU 하나세가 맞는 표현입니다
고증이 잘못되서 그런거고, 저 시대는 하나세라고 했고 지금도 일본에서 조총 쏘는 역사 재현할때 하나세라고 하죠. 우테는 메이지 유신 후에 외국 군대식 명령이죠.
그런거 다 따지면 역사물 못봄.
실제 역사 기록에서 세키가하라 전투에서 부상병 중 카타나에 의해 사상자수는 굴러다니는 짱돌로 사상당한 병력보다 적었음.
그러니까 실전에서 카타나는 무기가 다 없어지고 길바닥에 굴러다니는 돌로 처죽이는것 보다도 활용도가 떨어졌다는거임.
게다가 당시 일본의 철광석은 연철 성분이 대부분이고 강철성분이 없어서 대부분의 카타나는 사람을 3번이상 벨수가 없었고,
카타나 끼리 충돌하면 바로 날이 나가버리고 부러졌기 때문에 사실 상 거의 장식용 수준이었는데
대부분의 일본 사무라이 영화나 애니에서 카타나는 무엇이든 베어버리고 절대 부러지지 않는 엄청난 메인무기처럼 표현되어왔지.
この映画、島津役の俳優さんが日本語喋るのがすごくいい感じだと思ってた。日本人が見てもそうかな？ww
chinese and korean friendship forever
One day man, one day
I'm bit pessimistic when thinking how things are now in the world, but sure, friendship is always better than making enemies.
Well, at least friendship with half of Korea.
But yeah, for the vast majority of history, Korea was friendly with China, either as a fully sovereign state or under Chinese suzernity.
@@theredbar-cross8515 haha you don’t seems to know any Korean history.
Japanese land forces were larger than Korean land forces, even with Ming support. Korean forces made up the majority of land forces against the Japanese throughout the war. Japanese navy was also larger than Korean Navy. Land battles were not showing clear victory against the Japanese, until Admiral Yi took charge of Korean Navy which soon gained full control of the sea/ocean preventing Japanese navy from sending supplies and reinforcement. Admiral Yi and Korean navy won all naval battles against the numerically superior Japanese navy which was suffering huge losses. With food resupply and weapon reinforcements destroyed by Korean navy, Japanese land forces were in full retreat and losing land battles, eventually leading to Japan losing the war. Korean navy sealed the victory. Prior to Korea-Japanese war, for many decades, Koreans have sent Korean military forces to support Ming against another Northeast Asian, Kim Dynasty(Jin/Qing). Kim Dynasty was preparing for full invasion of Ming Dynasty, thus Ming could not fully commit to Korean - Japanese war. However, Ming was obligated to support the Korea (Joseon) for the prior Korean support against Kim Dynasty. In few years after Korea-Japan war ended, Kim Dynasty (Jin/Qing) invaded and conquered Ming Dynasty, and this time Korean military could not provide large support for Ming as Korea was still recovering from Korea-Japan war. Kim Dynasty did not wanted to invade Korea(Joseon) as Kim Dynasty viewed Korea(Joseon) as same bloodline brother nation, since Kim Dynasty was founded by Korean Silla Dynasty, Kim family. But Korea refused to align with Kim Dynasty and chose war against the Kim Dynasty, however Korean court eventually aligned with Kim Dynasty(Jin/Qing) to avoid total economic collapse. After Ming Dynasty collapse, Ming loyalties fled to Korea which protected them from Kim Dynasty prosecution which was death for all Ming hierarchy.