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As much as I'd love the Janeway and kirk for the barbies, ya i can't justify the price. If the crossfield refit was added over the courage I'd probably buy it tho. But sadly, another set of 32c ships slipped away
i agree that its very strange they didn't include the Crossfield since that's the hero ship from this group, do they know that they'll earn more money from people gambling for it? I assume they research that somehow. As we all know that's why we dont have a T6 connie in the c store yet, gamble bucks
Now that I got the ZEN needed, I'm still waiting for the next Mudd's 50% Bundle Sail, so I can get the account-wide DPRM console 4-pc set (got the remaining console from the Legendary NX already). For this new bundle, I don't understand why the Crossfield isn't in it (Universal Designs). Then only the Terran Worship (Terran Goodbye) would have been remaining.
I'm disappointed, but not shocked they ran the 32c "premium" ships from Discovery as back to back Mudds Bundles. Unlike the Temporal cruisers of a year ago, this just isnt space barbie I care about. I agree this was a missed opportunity with ships like the 32c Crossfield and the Mirror Connie Warship not being in Mudds Bundles yet. I think looking at the last Mudds Bundle and this one, Cryptic/DECA are over-estimating the space barbie vs. high performance ships/traits/consoles tradeoffs players are willing to invest in at Mudds. Thank you for the breakdown, very useful for those of us who don't pay super close attention to how premium ships stack up against free to play awards or zen store comparables.
Cheers Spence! This is definitely a bundle I won't even be considering, because there's nothing that'd be useful across my vast collection of characters. I'm surprised they haven't put the older bundles back in the store too, as I missed out on the account-wide DPRM (for example), so would snap it up if it came back.
Shame you changed the title. The original one was funnier :P. I had some high hopes for this bundle until I seen the announcement yesterday. Was never a Disco fan so these ships were not on my radar at all apart from the look of the Kirk and it's just not worth it for the look alone. This is potentially Cryptic's last Mudd Bundle and they failed big time. You would have thought they would have learned after the poor sales of the Sol bundle earlier this year. As you nicely showed, most C-store ships are better or equal to these 3 and cheaper. At least the recent Mudd Bundles have had a positive effect on my bank balance if nothing else. I doubt that they'll do a surprise return of previous Mudd Bundles since they'll probably outsell this one, which means we approach months 9, 10, 11 and possibly 12 since the last Mudd Bundle sale on PC. It's as if they don't want player money.
I'm glad they didn't have Crossfield Refit in this bundle. I don't like it when they mix bad ships with good ships. It increases the chances of the Refit being in a bundle with better ships. This is a blessing in disguise, actually.
Release Date Theory of Refit: The Crossfield Refit basically a guaranteed sale due to how core it is to meta UD is with it being universal, instead of Mudds due to the milestone of the 15th Anniversary they could have that as the exclusive you have to buy the whole bundle to get it account wide like in the past with Mirror/Styx and so on. This would actually allow them to sell a bundle at a higher price similar to the 10th and would explain things like the content delays. It would be Deca's first full Anni bundle and having the Refit and allot of ships to mix up the meta would achieve that for them. Mudds do sell but the biggest bundle sale of the year is usually the Anni editions as most see that as the bundle to carry them another year with the yearly campaign reward as a helping hand.
Hi Spencer I have a suggestion for a live feed do the lost Dominion episodes people might find it interesting It drove me crazy but I know you would breeze right though it
Nice breakdown! Well, by a process of elimination, at least that's three more unappealing ships out of the equation for future Mudd's bundles. And perhaps more chance of the Crossfield Refit and the Mirror Warship appearing in a bundle together at some point. And the poor value of the fluff options (compared to buying them separately) if you don't want all the ships continues to be a fatal flaw in such bundles.
I'm catching up on STO stuff. I remember wanting the Kirk when it first came out, but I wasn't going to pay a premium amount worth of resources for a single character unlock. Today I care nothing for it. Dodged a bullet, I guess. The Courge I laughed at. It was a space toilet 🤣 I saw the news of this bundle's release and immediately thought "Meh." Seeing your breakdown confirmed it.
Perhaps a more reasonable model to sell promotional/Lock Box ships could be an example of the Inquiry. Sell their Lock Box/Promotion ship, then follow it up with a lesser expensive Mudds bundle around $60 - $90 with another ship included and upgraded ship stats and/or features later during the year perhaps. I like the way they re-released the Inquiry and I bought both versions. I wouldn’t buy them all as I would be selective about what I purchase however, this could be a much more reasonable approach then trying to sell us the same ship 3 times at outrageous prices with crap we don’t want. Just a thought.
Not only do the ships have less expensive individual alternatives in the store, you could also get their respective bundles for less than the cost of the choice pack. So yeah, definitely a "Space Barbie Only" bundle (and if that's your jam, more power to you), but it's an easy pass for me. I suppose they can't all be "home runs" ... or "base hits" for that matter.
Spencer, do you think they will ever come out with a Legendary Kirk Class or Word Razer as we consider this bundle today from your review and comparisons of it to other ships? I Love your ship comparisons every time which always help us put these ships into perspective how they match up to other lesser expensive options! Your Amazing !
We already have a legendary Galaxy and Galaxy x, so doubtful on the world razer. I imagine the Kirk would have to be in some bundle like the 10th where they are just tossing in ships to hit a theme...and at least cryptic seemed uninterested in making a bundle be that good a value again.
Is there another option out there that improves weapon haste/damage when coming out of cloak, like the Janeway has? I like that for my Scimitar. But, if there is something better, I'll look that way. (P.S. I already have the Fleet Powered Network Array and another console that increases Weapon Haste although I don't remember the name of it. I'll update the post at the next chance I have when I know it.)
I’ve been waiting for an account unlock for the Kirk Class for a while! Love this ship! But this won’t be it for me. I would probably bought this 32nd Century with Kirk, Janeway, and the Crossfield Refit. I will wait it out now to see if a Legendary Kirk Class is made in the future. I really don’t like buying individual ships 3 times. Once in promo box, Second in Mudds Bundle, then last stop for a Legendary Version.
This bundle is DOA. Now if they swapped out the Janway for the Disco refit then the bundle would have some value and still would keep in theme with 32nd century ships.
Absolutely a garbage Mudd's bundle. This was certainly a missed opportunity this is very disappointing. As always thanks for the info Spencer great job. Also the Kirk is a crappy world razer as well just like the typhoon
Quick question for you CasualSAB, ive seen in your videos that you click accept on some windows in sto without moving your mouse cursor over it, how do you do that?
I bought a mudd bundle before. I don't use the ships anymore. Because other ships have come and they are better now. So ended up being a waste of money.
60,000 Zen. That's six _hundred_ dollars. For a bundle that should play The Price Is Right fail horn when you open it. I'll say this for the Mudd's store, they really..... _really_ play up the idea that this is sold by him.
For me this is a bundle for the collectors who like new shiny things to show off. I always look for ships that offer something unique or include something that I can use everyday like consoles or traits; none of these ships have anything like that so this is an easy pass. Thanks again for another informative video and take care.
It's funny. At first I was disgusted by 32c ships, but I've slowlly come to like the aesthetic. The barbie aspect is tempting, but that they aren't great is a real downer. Still cheaper than therapy...
Not a great bundle for those obsessed with only flying "the best" ships I suppose. But all three ships are appealing to those of us who just love flying awesome looking machines and all three are perfectly capable of kicking much, much ass :) However, who the hell can afford £300 dollars these days? Not me.
Man, yet another very underwhelming mudd's bundle. Is like cryptic didn't wanted any money from mudd's bundles this year. No bundles sales, terrible new bundles, i wonder if they are trying to troll someone.
In my opinion, DECA first MUDDS MANAGEMENT made a huge MARKETING FLAW. The change o duration of the promotion window after launch is a slap in the face of player. CRYPTIC made this window to be atractive to the player and keep their confidation foundation during all this time. Very bad move! Sorry. DECA WELCOME TO NO CONSUMER THRUST ACTION ERA. YOU CREATE IT, NOW ENJOY IT.
this bundle is an easy pass... i wouldn't buy it if it was 90% off, they really hurt themselves when they put the terran anniversary bundle in the c-store... that made zero sense, one of the dumbest moves in a financial sense... i would of bought that anniversary bundle by now and i still think it' the ships are better than the 10th anniversary bundle but it's not a bundle anymore since you can buy all the ships in the c-store... still boggles the mind
Gross, more hideous 32nd century ships. I wouldn't buy this nasty crap even if they were the best ships in the game. These are some of the worst designs in all of science fiction.
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As much as I'd love the Janeway and kirk for the barbies, ya i can't justify the price. If the crossfield refit was added over the courage I'd probably buy it tho. But sadly, another set of 32c ships slipped away
i agree that its very strange they didn't include the Crossfield since that's the hero ship from this group, do they know that they'll earn more money from people gambling for it? I assume they research that somehow. As we all know that's why we dont have a T6 connie in the c store yet, gamble bucks
Klevin is in the mudds bundle. Just saying.
The 10th bundle has a bunch of Connies in it
Now that I got the ZEN needed, I'm still waiting for the next Mudd's 50% Bundle Sail, so I can get the account-wide DPRM console 4-pc set (got the remaining console from the Legendary NX already). For this new bundle, I don't understand why the Crossfield isn't in it (Universal Designs). Then only the Terran Worship (Terran Goodbye) would have been remaining.
I'm disappointed, but not shocked they ran the 32c "premium" ships from Discovery as back to back Mudds Bundles. Unlike the Temporal cruisers of a year ago, this just isnt space barbie I care about.
I agree this was a missed opportunity with ships like the 32c Crossfield and the Mirror Connie Warship not being in Mudds Bundles yet.
I think looking at the last Mudds Bundle and this one, Cryptic/DECA are over-estimating the space barbie vs. high performance ships/traits/consoles tradeoffs players are willing to invest in at Mudds.
Thank you for the breakdown, very useful for those of us who don't pay super close attention to how premium ships stack up against free to play awards or zen store comparables.
Cheers Spence! This is definitely a bundle I won't even be considering, because there's nothing that'd be useful across my vast collection of characters. I'm surprised they haven't put the older bundles back in the store too, as I missed out on the account-wide DPRM (for example), so would snap it up if it came back.
I suspect they have saved the Crossfield Refit for a reassuringly expensive bundle further down the line ...
Shame you changed the title. The original one was funnier :P. I had some high hopes for this bundle until I seen the announcement yesterday. Was never a Disco fan so these ships were not on my radar at all apart from the look of the Kirk and it's just not worth it for the look alone. This is potentially Cryptic's last Mudd Bundle and they failed big time. You would have thought they would have learned after the poor sales of the Sol bundle earlier this year.
As you nicely showed, most C-store ships are better or equal to these 3 and cheaper. At least the recent Mudd Bundles have had a positive effect on my bank balance if nothing else.
I doubt that they'll do a surprise return of previous Mudd Bundles since they'll probably outsell this one, which means we approach months 9, 10, 11 and possibly 12 since the last Mudd Bundle sale on PC. It's as if they don't want player money.
Seen most online saying to skip this, but wanted the straight dope from here - thanks.
I'm glad they didn't have Crossfield Refit in this bundle. I don't like it when they mix bad ships with good ships. It increases the chances of the Refit being in a bundle with better ships.
This is a blessing in disguise, actually.
Good point!
In my opinion they need to change the marketing management aproach. They are very weak!
Release Date Theory of Refit: The Crossfield Refit basically a guaranteed sale due to how core it is to meta UD is with it being universal, instead of Mudds due to the milestone of the 15th Anniversary they could have that as the exclusive you have to buy the whole bundle to get it account wide like in the past with Mirror/Styx and so on. This would actually allow them to sell a bundle at a higher price similar to the 10th and would explain things like the content delays. It would be Deca's first full Anni bundle and having the Refit and allot of ships to mix up the meta would achieve that for them. Mudds do sell but the biggest bundle sale of the year is usually the Anni editions as most see that as the bundle to carry them another year with the yearly campaign reward as a helping hand.
thanks, I am getting this I had the Kirk and wanted the Jane but with the other ship was the refit Discolike Mc suggested or the Parliament 😅💯👍
Hi Spencer I have a suggestion for a live feed do the lost Dominion episodes people might find it interesting It drove me crazy but I know you would breeze right though it
Cheers Spencer, I hope they bring the old mudds bundles soon, can't remember when I last saw them on console, guess they'll come to pc first
Nice breakdown! Well, by a process of elimination, at least that's three more unappealing ships out of the equation for future Mudd's bundles. And perhaps more chance of the Crossfield Refit and the Mirror Warship appearing in a bundle together at some point.
And the poor value of the fluff options (compared to buying them separately) if you don't want all the ships continues to be a fatal flaw in such bundles.
I'm catching up on STO stuff. I remember wanting the Kirk when it first came out, but I wasn't going to pay a premium amount worth of resources for a single character unlock. Today I care nothing for it. Dodged a bullet, I guess.
The Courge I laughed at. It was a space toilet 🤣
I saw the news of this bundle's release and immediately thought "Meh." Seeing your breakdown confirmed it.
The mudd store needs to start including unique exclusives in these bundles to make people really think about buying them.
Perhaps a more reasonable model to sell promotional/Lock Box ships could be an example of the Inquiry.
Sell their Lock Box/Promotion ship, then follow it up with a lesser expensive Mudds bundle around $60 - $90 with another ship included and upgraded ship stats and/or features later during the year perhaps.
I like the way they re-released the Inquiry and I bought both versions.
I wouldn’t buy them all as I would be selective about what I purchase however, this could be a much more reasonable approach then trying to sell us the same ship 3 times at outrageous prices with crap we don’t want.
Just a thought.
Always helping me out with your videos
I was waiting for the Crossfield but I hit on a box a few days ago and grabbed it
What a perfect time to not be able to play the game for a few months. I was afraid this bundle was going to be good and I would miss the drop.
Not only do the ships have less expensive individual alternatives in the store, you could also get their respective bundles for less than the cost of the choice pack.
So yeah, definitely a "Space Barbie Only" bundle (and if that's your jam, more power to you), but it's an easy pass for me.
I suppose they can't all be "home runs" ... or "base hits" for that matter.
Spencer, do you think they will ever come out with a Legendary Kirk Class or Word Razer as we consider this bundle today from your review and comparisons of it to other ships?
I Love your ship comparisons every time which always help us put these ships into perspective how they match up to other lesser expensive options!
Your Amazing !
We already have a legendary Galaxy and Galaxy x, so doubtful on the world razer. I imagine the Kirk would have to be in some bundle like the 10th where they are just tossing in ships to hit a theme...and at least cryptic seemed uninterested in making a bundle be that good a value again.
Not sure i would want it even if it was all six and not pick three.
Absolutely no interest in or money for this. Just here for the algorithm. 07
All hail the algorithm!
Is there another option out there that improves weapon haste/damage when coming out of cloak, like the Janeway has? I like that for my Scimitar. But, if there is something better, I'll look that way. (P.S. I already have the Fleet Powered Network Array and another console that increases Weapon Haste although I don't remember the name of it. I'll update the post at the next chance I have when I know it.)
I’ve been waiting for an account unlock for the Kirk Class for a while! Love this ship!
But this won’t be it for me.
I would probably bought this 32nd Century with Kirk, Janeway, and the Crossfield Refit.
I will wait it out now to see if a Legendary Kirk Class is made in the future.
I really don’t like buying individual ships 3 times. Once in promo box, Second in Mudds Bundle, then last stop for a Legendary Version.
This bundle is DOA. Now if they swapped out the Janway for the Disco refit then the bundle would have some value and still would keep in theme with 32nd century ships.
Absolutely a garbage Mudd's bundle. This was certainly a missed opportunity this is very disappointing. As always thanks for the info Spencer great job. Also the Kirk is a crappy world razer as well just like the typhoon
Thank you for the breakdown! This bundle is an easy pass.
Yeah well, I like the Courage's aesthetics but despise the other two, combined with the dated stats its a sad miss for me too.
Quick question for you CasualSAB, ive seen in your videos that you click accept on some windows in sto without moving your mouse cursor over it, how do you do that?
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I bought a mudd bundle before. I don't use the ships anymore. Because other ships have come and they are better now. So ended up being a waste of money.
60,000 Zen. That's six _hundred_ dollars. For a bundle that should play The Price Is Right fail horn when you open it. I'll say this for the Mudd's store, they really..... _really_ play up the idea that this is sold by him.
Wrong ships, but I'm still gonna get at least 2 for the space barbie.
The tech upgrades are nice I guess lol.
Damm S. I think you talked me out of it😳
Its down as 60000 on the news release info BUT its onsale for 25k !
Yeah, 50k base cost. With them having an extra item in I thought they might have meant 60k this time. Seems not. Still not a good deal tho imo.
They said it was 60k zen full price in the info, and it still says it's on the official release , not your mistake or fault in any way 😊.
For me this is a bundle for the collectors who like new shiny things to show off. I always look for ships that offer something unique or include something that I can use everyday like consoles or traits; none of these ships have anything like that so this is an easy pass. Thanks again for another informative video and take care.
It's funny. At first I was disgusted by 32c ships, but I've slowlly come to like the aesthetic. The barbie aspect is tempting, but that they aren't great is a real downer. Still cheaper than therapy...
Not a great bundle for those obsessed with only flying "the best" ships I suppose. But all three ships are appealing to those of us who just love flying awesome looking machines and all three are perfectly capable of kicking much, much ass :)
However, who the hell can afford £300 dollars these days? Not me.
Man, yet another very underwhelming mudd's bundle. Is like cryptic didn't wanted any money from mudd's bundles this year. No bundles sales, terrible new bundles, i wonder if they are trying to troll someone.
Yeeeesss :D Always look forward to your insight.
Useless Mudds bundles are the best Mudds bundles.
Too bad they didn't have the World Razer in there. 1 billion EC is a little rich for me. Lol
In my opinion, DECA first MUDDS MANAGEMENT made a huge MARKETING FLAW. The change o duration of the promotion window after launch is a slap in the face of player. CRYPTIC made this window to be atractive to the player and keep their confidation foundation during all this time. Very bad move! Sorry. DECA WELCOME TO NO CONSUMER THRUST ACTION ERA. YOU CREATE IT, NOW ENJOY IT.
yeah its not worth it.. i dont want anything from mudds junk store
this bundle is an easy pass... i wouldn't buy it if it was 90% off, they really hurt themselves when they put the terran anniversary bundle in the c-store... that made zero sense, one of the dumbest moves in a financial sense... i would of bought that anniversary bundle by now and i still think it' the ships are better than the 10th anniversary bundle but it's not a bundle anymore since you can buy all the ships in the c-store... still boggles the mind
I'm glad they're all junk, the more junk they pair together, the better the next packs will be.
I do not care about meda let's just copy everybody's builds in this game we're all clones 🙄🤣
60,000Z = $600 bucks Hard pass
this bundle is only good for unlocking the ships for the whole account-wide unlock, i however will not go for it
All the wrong 32nd ships ... lol.
Gross, more hideous 32nd century ships. I wouldn't buy this nasty crap even if they were the best ships in the game. These are some of the worst designs in all of science fiction.
Another disappointing mudds bundle. I guess I’m not really surprised at this point.
Another scam.