What is an Emotion?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 มิ.ย. 2021
- Jesse Prinz and Jerome Neu discuss and debate the nature of emotions. This comes from an episode of Odyssey on WBEZ Chicago from quite a few years back (early 2000s) with host Gretchen Helfrich. The audio has been slightly improved.
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A very interesting discussion. One small and hopefully relevant comment:
The Spinozist position that Neu advocates for, if it follows Spinoza, treats perceptions as belonging to thought. So when Prinz says that emotions are perceptions of changes in bodily states, this is actually very close to what Spinoza also thinks emotions are. The whole project of Spinoza's ethics of affects can be said to boil down to an attempt at bringing people to conscious awareness of the eliciting conditions of their bodily changes and the thoughts (including perceptions) necessarily tied to them.
It seems to me like an element to Neu and Prinz's disagreement is that Prinz thinks that when Neu speaks of "thoughts" that they are more narrowly propositional than they actually are.
Thanks for this!
As a teacher of Spinoza's philosophy, in his Ethics, part 3 is about, "the origin and the nature of our emotions." Spinoza's definition 3 of an emotion is clear. If you understand, there's no debate. The question is, are you in touch with your pain, hate, and anger. What triggers your emotions, and do you understand the definition and the meaning of the affects, the emotions. Trying to define is and debate is intellectual and has not reality to change and understand one's nature. The Way of Spinoza.
holy crap the whole channel went down...
Dogs/pets can get antsy when owners come home late, I doubt animals do not have a 'conception of time' as we understand it
Dogs are philosophers and have language, it's just we don't understand it.
Emotions are *legacy mental outcomes* to external stimuli that originate from a cobbled-together mind. They come from, for the most part, the common Limbic brain that we share with most higher order mammals. (Ma Nature was an opportunistic, shambolic designer.)
For the Epicurean, Stoic or the Alpha, emotions are advisory: requiring a rational enquiry. IQ determines how fast that enquiry progresses.
Until we work out how precisely the mind processes thought and memories we will be able to talk endlessly on this topic.
_"Intelligence is the universe _*_trying_*_ to make sense of itself"_
@@chocolatefigure01 My sister was visiting recently. Unfortunately while here she suffered a stroke. (All's going well now. Plasticity of Mind is recovering much of what was damaged.) However my response (get in touch with the ambulance people before I knew anything, don't upset her even further, etc.), has been described by many as a core part of her recovery. I don't agree, I just helped.
Call that 'cold' if you will, I call it being an adult. Life 'happens' to us. Deal, prepare to deal, with it. It isn't personal with the exception of those who live for the drama. Whom I avoid.
I'm also the 'fun' son, I can make the rest of the family laugh till it hurts. Mwahahaha.
Read the Stoics, get some really helpful perspective. Mainly: 'Life is never personal.' It's chaotic, hundreds of agents, self-interest abounds, only you matter to you.
@@chocolatefigure01 Getting there. I'm a bully at heart, we worked on 'endomitriosis' a little earlier (over the phone) and now she nails it. Cheers.`